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June 26, 2009

DNC Blogger Ridicules Trig Palin

It could be that liberals have finally found rock bottom — the point below which it is impossible to dig. From Blue Oasis, the official Alaska blog for the DNC:

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Progressives would have liked for Trig to be butchered in the womb for having Downs syndrome. Apparently the next best thing is to ridicule his handicap with grotesque photoshoppery.

The 72% refers to the Dems' progress in a fundraising drive to bankroll their continuing attempts to hamstring Saracuda. A recent strategy has been to bog her down with absurd ethics accusations (e.g., wearing clothing with corporate logos). They do fear her.

Hat tip: Gateway Pundit; on a tip from Jay Guevara.

Posted by Van Helsing at June 26, 2009 8:16 AM

Comments

Let's chalk up the lefty scorecard of attacks against Sarah Palin's kids:

- Track is gay, or he joined the Army to avoid prosecution for meth use.

- Bristol is a slut/whore/liar.

- Willow should be raped by A-Rod.

- Piper... I don't know if she's been attacked yet.

- Trig is not really Sarah's kid, he's Bristol's, and he should have been butchered in the womb, by the way, he's a "retard," and therefore fit to bash conservatives of all stripes.

Do you lefties understand now why you disgust us?

BTW: At the end of this post is a picture of 'Celtic Diva,' the Alaska blogger behind the frivolous ethics complaints. (She also called Sarah a "Nazi.") One look should clue you into her resentments against attractive, successful women.

Posted by: V the K at June 26, 2009 8:55 AM

As my Granddad used to say, "you're a day late and a dollar short". In this case, you're a day late and considerably short on knowledge (or conveniently excluded the facts). The face on the baby is Eddie Burke, not Trig. The blogger, Linda K. Biegle aka "Celtic Diva" has addressed right wing attackers with ""It's called 'Baby Burke' because it's Eddie Burke…basically his probable second-biggest fantasy about the Governor. So, connecting the dots for you…WE'RE MAKING FUN OF EDDIE BURKE!!!!!!"

Posted by: andy42302 at June 26, 2009 9:13 AM

Wow, "Celtic Diva" is a loathsome piece of shit even by leftard standards. That's never easy to accomplish.

She also has the most misleading online name I've ever come across.

Posted by: O Muorto Che Pparla at June 26, 2009 9:22 AM

When Palin cleaned Plugs clock in the VP debate that was the last straw for the MSM and progressives. Of course, the spin was that Plugs won, to cover his idiocy and ineptness. How dare a woman, when questioned on her executive experience, respond by questioning the experience of the Community Organizer-in-Chief. The vile vermin that pass for the media and libtards realized that she was a fresh beautiful and popular new female face with Reaganesque appeal (something they could not offer) and therefore new they had to savage her and did a great hatchett job on her, which continues throught today. Unfortunately, they have planted the seed that she is bad and corrupt in many weak minds and media influenced voters that will be hard to undue. I wish her godspeed.

Posted by: ZMarshall at June 26, 2009 9:24 AM

No sale, comrade andy.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 26, 2009 9:26 AM

Andy defends a piece of shit hog that makes fun of a handicapped child. Gee why am I not surprised. Heard any good under age girl jokes lately andy? Scumbag.

Posted by: Farmer Ted at June 26, 2009 9:56 AM

Would the comrade laugh it off if someone Photoshopped Obama's kids?

It's a rhetorical question, obviously.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 26, 2009 10:10 AM

actually the kid looks like Michael Jackson

Posted by: blue at June 26, 2009 10:27 AM

And, naturally, Andy defends a leftist for attacking a politician through her kids. Keep defending the moral low ground. That's why we hold the left in contempt.

Posted by: V the K at June 26, 2009 10:38 AM

VtheK, oh my heavens!

Posted by: Karin at June 26, 2009 11:00 AM

Andy, I don't know who the bigger scumbag troll here is: you or Ghost of Wellstoned.

I guess you would loose on that count because, as far as I know, you are not a paid Communist whore like Wellstoned.

You're just a slut.

Posted by: SK at June 26, 2009 11:01 AM

The sad part is, andy think of himself as reasonable... but he still defends using an innocent baby to attack a politician. Which says a lot about how much tolerance there is on the left for this kind of behavior.

Karin, I assume you are referring to the pic of 'Celtic Diva.' Yeah, photographic proof Jabba the Hutt had an affair with Helen Thomas.

Posted by: V the K at June 26, 2009 11:05 AM

*Zing*! V the K, you're on fire today. And I think the lefties did take a shot a Piper. I seem to recall a certain photoshopped image of her where they had airbrushed out her index finger to make it look like she was giving another child the finger. C L A S S Y!

Posted by: Judith M. at June 26, 2009 11:52 AM

I vaguely recall some left-wing blogger, maybe it was the see-you-next-Tuesday from firedoglake or pandagon who got her panties in a wad because of Piper licking her hand to smooth-down Trig's hair at the convention, but I didn't feel like looking it up. Looking up a left-wing blog is like lifting up a rock after a rainstorm.

Some right-wing bloggers took to calling Piper "Firestarter" after the Drew Barrymore character, but that was meant as a compliment.

Celtic Diva is living proof that beauty may be only skin-deep, but ugly goes through to the bone.

Posted by: V the K at June 26, 2009 12:26 PM

Looking up a left-wing blog is like lifting up a rock after a rainstorm.

I think of it like turning on a light in a kitchen and watching roaches scurry. The hate, fear, vitriol, and psychopathology they evince are truly amazing. Some truly repellent human beings there.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 26, 2009 12:41 PM

RE: Posted by: V the K at June 26, 2009 11:05 AM

"Karin, I assume you are referring to the pic of 'Celtic Diva.' Yeah, photographic proof Jabba the Hutt had an affair with Helen Thomas."


D#MN, V - that was an image I just did NOT need.....!

Posted by: TonyD95B at June 26, 2009 12:43 PM

That "Celtic Diva" reminds me of the gangleader mother from The Goonies.

Posted by: Murff at June 26, 2009 5:44 PM

I recall another group who though disabled people weren't worth spending resourses on. I think they ruled Germany from the 20s to 40s. Weird huh?

Posted by: convervativeteen at June 26, 2009 6:23 PM

A preview into the soul of the party of tolerence and compassion (A small sample from the campaign's)(some of these lins may not work anymore, they try to hide some of their filth)

Trig's Webpage http://downspalin.blogspot.com/

Bristol's Challange http://www.savingbristol.com/page2.html

Abandon Bristol http://freelevi.org/Real_Time_with_Bill_Maher.html

Piper http://newsbusters.org/blogs/mark-finkelstein/2008/09/07/nyt-journalists-wrinkled-their-nose-disgust-pipers-touching-gestur


Gang Raped http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3071040207976525687&hl=en

Palin Disabled http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2008/09/19/2008-09-_charlie_rangel_on_hot_seat_for_labeling_.html

Palin family incest http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=75852

CBC Attack http://www.heathermallick.ca/cbc.ca-columns/a-mighty-wind-blows-through-republican-convention.html


Hangs Sarah Palin http://cbs2.com/local/Sarah.Palin.mannequin.2.849299.html


Gives Addresses http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/2008/10/progressive_pap.html


T-Shirts http://rightvoices.com/2008/09/15/the-party-with-the-big-tent-retarded-republican-babies-for-palin-08-baby-t-shirt/

Memorial Post http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/2008/09/daily_kos_comme.html

Sarahcuda Fantasy http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-seitzman/sarah-palin-naked_b_125861.html

McCain Pics http://www.nypost.com/seven/09142008/news/politics/mac_hater_has_a_lousy_image_129007.htm

Girl Scouts http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/2008/09/girl_scouts_lea.html

Cub Scouts http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2008/09/021387.php

Flags Trashed http://www.audacityofhypocrisy.com/2008/08/29/obama-convention-threw-us-flag-into-trash/
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/09/06/mccain-camp-to-chastise-dems-for-discarding-american-flags/


Religious Tolerence http://www.lionsgate.com/religulous/

PDS in Action http://newsbusters.org/blogs/brent-baker/2008/09/20/pds-action-sullivans-vitriolic-explosive-s-t-fit-too-much-maher

Palin Isn't a Woman http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/2008/09/feminazi_sarah.html

McCains Cancer http://newsmax.com/insidecover/campaign_ad/2008/09/25/134506.html

Kill The Plumber http://rightwingnews.com/mt331/2008/11/liberal_talk_show_host_karel_c.php

75 YO Man attacked http://www.local6.com/politics/17858108/detail.html

Obama on Seances http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59XB68F54kA

Gays ATTACK old woman http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6mMQwAEDC4


There is no bottem to which these people can reach, they have a mental disease.

Posted by: TED at June 26, 2009 6:37 PM

WHEN are the Palins (or someone on their behalf) going to start fighting back against these despicable slander attacks with lawsuits of their own? I bet that would put an end to it or at least slow it down considerably.

The treatment of Sarah Palin and her family by this subhuman turd "Celtic Diva" and her accomplices in the media, entertainment industries, the Democrat party, and most of the Republican party is reprehensible and unforgiveable. It is also the reason why good, successful people with proven experience in running a family, a business, or a state (like Sarah has done all 3) won't bother running for office. And who can blame them?

Posted by: Nunya at June 26, 2009 6:58 PM

"They do fear her."

Precisely, and that's the reason for the all-out assault on the governor, and her family ("All's fair in love and politics; unless, of course, a Dhimmicrat is involved, then it's 'hands-off!'").

People who stand up to these lower-than-whale-shit scum, people like Sarah Palin, Mark Levin, Rush, and a precious few others, must be "targeted for destruction," since there's no way in hell the Left can defeat them in the arena of ideas, intelligence, substance or debate.

Considering her performance against Joe "the Dumbest V-P ever" Biden in the '08 debates, I've always wished we could have seen Sarah Palin vs. B. Hussein Obambi; would have been no contest, and BHO's chances at election would have vanished instantaneously.

Posted by: jc14 at June 26, 2009 7:53 PM

OK...let's see, Public Figures----2001--- TMZ---INTERNET---RUSH LIMAUGH-- and you guys are complaining about doctored pictures. Take a look back at what Rush and his militia have done in the past ten years. I think kids are off limits. But, come on...it could be Willow in that picture.

Posted by: paget at June 26, 2009 10:03 PM

I've come to the conclusion that the real reason the left hates Palin is because she's the only one who has been able to diminish BO's popularity (other than himself). THAT scares the hell out of 'em and makes them think she deserves a massive payback. How DARE she? And the irony is, she wasn't even taking him on. She was just being herself.

Posted by: jen at June 26, 2009 11:51 PM

Maybe the guvment can subsidize Celta Diva aka Orca and put her on the Jenny Craig program.

Ted, you're so right, they really do have a mental disease.

Posted by: Janet at June 26, 2009 11:55 PM

ZMarshall, your post was shear imaginary nonsense. "When Palin cleaned Plugs clock in the VP debate" is a specious argument. "Of course, the spin was that Plugs won". Uh, no, that's reality. "she was a fresh beautiful and popular new female face with Reaganesque appeal". Ok, that's really nice and I applaud them and her but I didn't come to see a show. I don't vote based on a fresh beautiful smile and that's all she had to offer.

Farmer Ted and V The K, I don't see that I defended anyone. All I pointed out was that Celtic Diva was making fun of Eddie Burke, not Trig as this forum would like to portray. In short, remove Trig from Palin's arms and insert Burke (who CD says would be Burke's fantasy). There were pics of Palin cradling a baby Letterman and I don't recall the fuss. Why? Because it was obvious that it was making fun of Letterman. You guys have become entrapped in seeing what you want to see, hearing what you want to hear, and blindly following whatever nonsense you want to follow as long as you can uphold your far right and extreme agenda.

Posted by: andy42302 at June 27, 2009 5:50 AM

andy your so full of shit I bet eyes are brown.

Posted by: FREE at June 27, 2009 7:03 AM

I don't see that I defended anyone. All I pointed out was that Celtic Diva was making fun of Eddie Burke, not Trig as this forum would like to portray.

Wrong again, shortbus. We were objecting to using a child to attack a politician. Reading comprehension... learn it, love it, live it.

Posted by: V the K at June 27, 2009 7:57 AM

VK, I understand what you objected to. It's the rationale of your objection that's questionable.

Posted by: andy42302 at June 27, 2009 8:45 AM

When you lack any objective sense of morality that is precisely why, my dimwitted Andy, you and your lot are worthless scumbags.

Posted by: SK at June 27, 2009 12:09 PM

Posted by: paget at June 26, 2009 10:03 PM

"You guys were 'mean' so that makes it okay for us to go after a disabled child and his mother to further our agendas! And you're extra mean for pointing out our hypocrisy"

Signed,

Paget

Posted by: SK at June 27, 2009 12:11 PM

It's always a troll-giveaway when posters use hyperbole like "far-right" and "extreme."

Strict following of Allinsky rulebook: Marginalize and ridicule.

Posted by: Conservababe at June 27, 2009 2:46 PM

Fair enough Conservabale, excuse me for the extreme accusation. With that said, where would you place Moonbattery? Main stream America? How about "fair and balanced"? Too funny!!

Posted by: andy42302 at June 27, 2009 3:00 PM

So do you defend attacking a politician by mocking her disabled child, andy? Yes or no.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 27, 2009 3:43 PM

I looked at that chick's picture, and gagged up a chunk of my lunch. Thanks, asshole.

Posted by: Right0fReagan at June 27, 2009 4:41 PM

We need 99% fewer liberals demacrats next election

Posted by: SPURWING PLOVER at June 27, 2009 5:28 PM

Jay, from previous discussions you've demonstrated that you're nothing but a coward. You've proven to have no interest in anything remotely near a rational debate. You cowardly create your own accusations out of thin air regardless of how I respond to you. Accordingly, I have no interest in conversing with you now or at anytime in the future.

Posted by: andy42302 at June 27, 2009 5:53 PM

Let's face it, you have to be some kind of stupid to not understand that putting Eddie Burke's head on Trig's body might offend Trig's mother. How would you like it if we put Charlie Rangel's head on the body of one of Obama's girls? Would that be funny? Okay, it might be funny, but it would also be offensive.

Posted by: Judith M. at June 27, 2009 6:40 PM

Andy, you have got balls calling Jay a coward, you lousy fuck.

You support abortion and think that there is nothing making fun of disabled child.

YOU are the coward here, you sniveling little rat.

As for wanting rational debate, become rational and then debate can be had, Andy. You liberals are infected with the fallacy that any position OTHER than the one the Daily Kommunists, DUmmies, Huff-Puffers, et al tout is 'irrational'.

Sorry, jerk-off. That's not going to fly here.

So, take your little ball and run home since you're ill equipped for a rational, adult discussion.

Posted by: SK at June 27, 2009 6:42 PM

Talk about white trash! How'd you like to wake up every morning and look at that in your mirror. No wonder she hates Palin. Funny how one picture can tell it all.

Posted by: bohica at June 27, 2009 7:12 PM

It's the rationale of your objection that's questionable.

In some way that you can't explain, because my objection is based on the stubborn fact that the hideous Celtic Diva was, in fact, using an innocent child to attack a politician.

The only way I can imagine leftists being unable to simply condemn this sort of behavior is if they are so devoid of decency that they do think the children of conservatives are fair game for this sort of ugly attack.

Posted by: V the Kv at June 27, 2009 8:22 PM

SK, your response is an example of the gross prejudice and ignorance of this blog. Your statement that I support abortion only proves that folks like you invent something to blame on people that don't march lockstep to your every mindset.
Yes, Jay is an absolute coward and like you, will quickly invent some feeble accusation when he doesn't have any other response in a debate.

VK, what's the difference in the Letterman baby than the Burke baby?
When Palin was shown cradling Letterman in her arms, why was there no outrage here? Because it was making fun of Letterman. Burke, on the other hand, is a Palin supporter. That's the double standard and hypocrisy that's prevalent here. When Trig was replaced with Letterman, a guy despised here, it seemed ok. However, replacing Trig with Burke, an avid supporter of Palin, automatically becomes child exploitation.

I don't condone dragging any family members into the political spotlight, be it spouses, children, parents, or whoever. There is however a degree of decency. There hasn't been considerable outcry over the Burke baby, especially after CD explained who she was making fun of. You guys want to make more out of it than what it is, and only because it suits your agenda. So in reality, who's really doing the exploiting?

Posted by: andy42302 at June 28, 2009 5:50 AM

Letterman Baby-- http://crooksandliars.com/bluegal/open-thread-191

Posted by: andy42302 at June 28, 2009 5:57 AM

ANDY:
Why are you ignoring THIS:

>The 72% refers to the Dems' progress in a fundraising drive to bankroll their continuing attempts to hamstring Saracuda. A recent strategy has been to bog her down with absurd ethics accusations (e.g., wearing clothing with corporate logos). They do fear her.>

Because it puts Liberals in a bad light, right?

Posted by: KHarn at June 28, 2009 7:44 AM

That's a good point KHarn. There are a few things obvious to me. Sarah Palin is apparently perusing the White House either in 2012 and/or possibly 2016. It's also obvious that Left wing activist are doing what they can to see that she fails. So far, so good?
I'm sure that the DNC does "fear" Palin because she may very well be a competitive runner, thus challenging their efforts to retain the White house. But I'm not seeing why this should come as a shock to anyone. The RNC saw Hilary as a threat as early as 04 and spent many $ to keep her from being reelected as Sen of NY.
But of course, the question of ethical behavior should always be a factor and I agree with holding either party accountable when crossing the line. That's where I have to question the motive of this forum. There seems to be an attempt to portray an attack on Trig while regurgitating the attack that Dems wanted Trig aborted. The fact is, CD was making fun of Eddie Burke, not Trig. It really had no association with Trig. I could buy into the concept that some here would say it's exploitation but it's disturbing that no one was offended with the same type photo shop with David Letterman. It's as if it only counts if it works in your favor.
And you KHarn, seem to be supporting that very same propaganda. You are pointing out that the blog has reached 72% of its goal and their objective is to hamstring Palin with minute accusations. I don't disagree with that. If you want to attack them on that front, they are fair game. However, that doesn't mean that invoking "abortionists" or child exploiting rhetoric is relevant to your argument.

Posted by: andy42302 at June 28, 2009 9:16 AM

Accordingly, I have no interest in conversing with you now or at anytime in the future.

So you have no answer. Along with no integrity, no intellect, and God knows, no patriotism. Just as I thought.

Making fun of a disabled child is perfectly OK with you communists, as long as the child’s parents are Americans.

You, sir, are a turd. (No offense intended - to turds, that is.)

Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 28, 2009 2:20 PM

Is Andy that stupid and naive or am I just imagining things?

Posted by: Dave at June 28, 2009 3:07 PM

Sorry I couldn't get back to earlier andyscumbag but I have noticed something interesting in you posts.You will not come out against using the image of a child and worse a disabled child in a poltical smear campaign. It's a good thing I don't meet pieces of shit like you,of course you wouldn't have the balls to spout your views around people,because if you did your ass would get stomped.

Posted by: Farmer Ted at June 28, 2009 3:17 PM

My thoughts exactly Farmer Ted....These liberal shit heads don't have the balls to say the shit they say in on here in person.

Gutless hypocritical hateful trolls!

Posted by: Dave at June 28, 2009 3:29 PM

Farmer Ted and Dave, my post clearly states my position. I don't see it as making fun of a child at all. As I see it, there is no child in the picture. Obviously, you see something different than I do. You may not agree with that and I respect your opinion.

Ok, I think it's only fair that you tell me what you see in the Palin/Letterman picture.

Posted by: andy42302 at June 28, 2009 5:46 PM

it's the implication being made here Andy.

If that were Obama's kids would it be any difference?

Posted by: Dave at June 28, 2009 6:35 PM

Can I interpret that response Dave as "prefer not to answer"?

Posted by: andy42302 at June 28, 2009 6:40 PM

Come on Andy....don't be afraid to respond. Read it again.

Posted by: Dave at June 28, 2009 6:45 PM

Dave, it's audacious of you to insist on asking me questions while evading mine.

We have to improvise here a bit as Obama didn't haul his kids all over the country in some road show so I'm not sure how you'd envision the photo. Let's say there's a pic of Obama hugging his daughter and someone replaced hers with, Harry Reid? Joe Biden? GWB? Hell, you name it. Would that be exploiting the child? No. If that doesn't answer, just be more specific on what you have in mind.

Have some testicular fortitude and answer my question. After all, the 2 pics are the same, just a different person.

Posted by: andy42302 at June 28, 2009 7:10 PM

andy42302...aka...andy666

"Obama didn't haul his kids all over the country in some road show..."

How disingenuous. What planet were you on during the primaries? Obama and Michelle took their kids everywhere possible. Both candidates did. I think it's great. The Kennedys did it, the Clintons too, as well as any other respectable candidate who ever wanted to win the family vote. The smarmy feral MSM road varmits were the side show.

That 'Ship of Fools' listed so far to port on the kiddie coverage, their Cuttysark bottles were pointing directly at Shanghai. The coverage was biased and unfair, even some of my liberals friends agreed. Right now that media ship has completely capsized and is heading for the jetty (c/ratings).

Conservatives in general would never go after Obama's kids. They're (we're) firing back now because we're just frickin' sick of a moronic, viral year-long attack on a woman candidate who hasn't gone out of her way to hurt anyone.

Posted by: AlphaMail at June 28, 2009 9:28 PM

Ok, AlphaMail, I'll give you that one. Obama took his family on the road too. Fair enough? What was your opinion of the Palin coddling the baby Letterman photo?

Posted by: andy42302 at June 29, 2009 6:15 AM

The Palin/Letterman picture was tasteless, as well Andy, but you're acting as if anyone had seen it before you posted a link. In some ways I deplore the one with Letterman even more, because Trig is surely not as mentally disabled as David Letterman.

Posted by: Judith M. at June 29, 2009 7:03 AM

Thank you Judith. The others I've been talking to here have had about 24 hours to view it. I've been accused here by many that unless I denounce something, I support it. So, to Alpha, Dave, Farmer, Jay, et al, if the shoe fits.....

Posted by: andy42302 at June 29, 2009 7:53 AM

andy42302....RE: your 6:15am post

Just read your reply. I'm sorry, haven't seen it, but if it's mocking Letterman that's fine, just like it's fine if it's mocking Palin--that seems to be par for today's political sparring. If it mocks anyone's kids, or someone's physical deficiencies it's kindergarden-bully bullshit and it's out of bounds. My Op.

Posted by: AlphaMail at June 29, 2009 9:51 PM

Note to the country: Do not put government liberals in charge of your health care. They will prefer to simply let you die if they think you don't deserve to live. This is all the proof you need.

Posted by: Mickey at June 30, 2009 12:36 PM

Note to Mickey. The country did but liberals in charge.

Posted by: andy42302 at June 30, 2009 4:44 PM

"Do you lefties understand now why you disgust us?"

Yes. Yes, I do. It's because you've trained yourself to label everything you find disgusting as "Liberal."

If someone were to make fun of Trig Palin, that wouldn't automatically make him a Lefty. It would, however, make him an Ass. Adults who make fun of handicapped babies are adults in name only, and probably couldn't care less about politics.

Years ago, I heard a conservative preacher make a joke about mentally retarded children FROM THE PULPIT! Complete with hand-flapping gestures!

Good grief. I once knew an assistant pastor and his wife, both politically conservative, who thought it was funny to call their own thirteen year old retarded son "Goofy," to his face.

I said something to her about it, and she replied, "He likes it, so what's the problem?"

Now, by your logic, I could say, "What's wrong with Christian Conservatives? Why do they think it's okay to make fun of retarded kids?" But I'm not going to make a judgment about a whole group of people based on the actions of a few.

I'm a "Lefty" who listens occasionally to Limbaugh, Hannity, and Beck when I'm driving. This is a common theme--take something anyone says against a Conservative, and proclaim that all Liberals believe that. Almost always, it's a "straw man argument"--not at all what the average Liberal is thinking, but easier to argue against.

These people are not doing any of us any favors. Radio and TV hosts on both the Far Left and the Far Right behave this way to gain listeners. They know we need conflict to feel entertained. We need a good-hearted hero to root for, and a black-hearted villain to despise. That's entertainment. Don't believe me? Go to the movies.

But we're dividing ourselves further and further into two warring camps, that get nothing done but to fight about petty shit. We don't see each other as honest people with honest motives, who just happen to have different ideas about how to make progress. Soon, I can't listen to you and try to understand what you're saying, because I'm too busy congratulating my clever self on how quickly I figured out your agenda.

"Progressives would have liked for Trig to be butchered in the womb for having Downs syndrome." I know of no "Progressive" who actually thinks that. You don't either. You've invented that black-hearted villain, so you can cast yourself as the good-hearted hero.

Posted by: Michele at July 3, 2009 11:45 PM

That was perhaps the best retort to a straw man argument that I have read in quite some time. Thank you, Michele! Oh, that we might hear your wisdom and begin to understand that *listening* across the aisle is not synonymous with "straddling the fence."

Posted by: Miriam at July 4, 2009 8:13 AM

It is dishonest to say this pic is about Trig. It is clearly Eddie Burke, and a commentary about her and him.

Posted by: Steve at July 4, 2009 12:43 PM

Whether you're a political cartoonist or a blogger/photoshopper, you have a responsibility to make sure that the EFFECT of your visual statement matches your INTENT.

Perhaps the intent of the photoshop in question was to slam Eddie Burke as infantile, to imply that he sucks up to the Governor, etc. Perhaps that would come across better if the man's face wasn't so grotesquely photoshopped over Trig's. As it is, one could easily assume that the photoshopper meant that Eddie Burke is a big, overgrown mentally challenged baby. And that's going too far. Am I wrong?

What is "dishonest" is for each side of the argument to see only what it wants to see, based on its preconceived notions of what the other side must be thinking. To me, the amateur quality of the photoshop disqualifies it as high satire. I doubt that anyone thought this stinker through.

It's dishonest to call her website "an entire website devoted to trashing Trig Palin," as I heard it referred to somewhere. It's dishonest to claim that Liberals wanted Trig to be "butchered in the womb."

But I also think it's dishonest to pretend that this photo couldn't be seen as offensive by an unbiased viewer, that it couldn't be reasonably taken as an insult to Trig Palin. Granted, I wouldn't be able to pick Eddie Burke out of a crowd, so I'm just going on gut reaction. But I've got to say, the photo disgusts me.

But for the most part, if you already hated Sarah Palin, you're going to say there's absolutely no basis for the outrage against this photo. If you already supported Sarah Palin, you'll say this photo is proof that all Liberals are vile, disgusting creatures, who crave the blood of unborn infants. Especially mentally retarded infants.

Reminds me of Lipstick-on-a-pig. Palin supporters fumed that Obama was calling their beloved Sarah a pig. Obama supporters retorted that there is no pig; don't be ridiculous. It's just an expression that McCain, himself, has used over and over.

But, obviously, someone or something was being called a pig. It was clear to me--someone who's a little left of center--that the pig was the TICKET. And Sarah Palin was the LIPSTICK. Did anyone say that, in any of the coverage? No.

Obama was very cleverly saying that McCain's ticket stunk up the place, and slapping some pretty cosmetic fix on it wasn't changing it in any way that counted. But if he'd explained that, his detractors would've shrieked that Obama thinks all women are just lipstick: just for show, not worthy of being taken seriously.

So he had to back up offa that, and fast. Smart move on his part. But I'm disappointed, over and over, that meaningful discussion must be ended because a few very loud people want to whip up controversies that have little to do with fact.

Posted by: Michele at July 6, 2009 8:08 AM