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January 18, 2008

Polar Bears Used as Excuse to Stop Oil Drilling

Polar bears are one of the very few animals that will hunt down humans and kill us as food, making them immensely popular among the envirowackos who have their collective foot on the throat of our energy policy. As icons of enviromoonbattery, polar bears are being exploited in an attempt to prevent drilling for precious oil in otherwise useless frozen wasteland by invoking the Endangered Species Act, despite the fact that polar bear populations are unfortunately not even declining.

The idea is that even if polar bears aren't really threatened, they supposedly would be in the future if only the farcical climate change crisis were real.

From Upstreamonline:

The US government must decide first if polar bears are threatened by climate change before it opens part of their habitat to oil drilling, the head of a congressional environment panel said.
The decision whether to list the species as threatened under the Endangered Species Act was supposed to happen last week but was postponed for up to 30 days.
That means it could come after the government offers 29.4 million acres in the Chukchi Sea off the Alaskan coast in a sale of oil leases on 6 February.
"Rushing to allow drilling in polar bear habitat before protecting the bear would be the epitome of this administration's backward energy policy, a policy of drill first and ask questions later," Republican [sic] Ed Markey said at a hearing of the House Select Committee on Energy Independence and Global Warming, which he chairs.

Actually, Ed Markey is a Democrat from Massachusetts, as you might surmise from the pernicious moonbattery he spews.

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Polar bears' imagined interests come before our need for energy independence.

On a tip from Byron.

Posted by Van Helsing at January 18, 2008 12:13 PM

Comments

Just send all the envirowackos up there and let the polar bears feed on them to fatten them up. Call them Soylent Moonbat.

Posted by: Anonymous at January 18, 2008 12:19 PM

Related topic: Eco-hippies throw acid and board Japanese whaling ship, tied to rail and offered whale meat.

I'm against whale hunting, but I'm very pro-hippie torturing.

Unrelated topic: Iowahawk links MSM workers to violent, psychopathic behavior. Take that, New York Times.

Posted by: V the K at January 18, 2008 12:43 PM

I don't understand why the environMENTALists make such a big deal about the polar bears. After all, these same people are faithful believers in evolution and isn't one of the 10 commandments of evolution the "survival of the fittest" theory? If these polar bears can't evolve into something that can tolerate the heat, then they are weak and should die.

Posted by: Kristy at January 18, 2008 12:51 PM

Survival of the fittest applies only to animals. Humans are considered a pestilence that should be removed from the Earth. Hopefully some moonbat scientist doesnt develop a plague like the one in "12 Monkeys" to wipe us all out. Even intelligent people can go total moonbat - see Bobby "The Crackpot" Fischer. Oh you cant, he dead!

Posted by: Anonymous at January 18, 2008 12:55 PM

If they love the polar bears so much, why don't they MARRY them?
(Maybe I shouldn't give them ideas)

Posted by: KHarn at January 18, 2008 1:43 PM

Posted by: White Cane at January 18, 2008 4:24 PM

Posted by: White Cane at January 18, 2008 4:33 PM

"Polar bears are one of the very few animals that will hunt down humans and kill us as food"

Polar bears hunting humans! And for food!
Does not anybody here verify these articles before to publish them?

Posted by: carlos at January 18, 2008 4:47 PM

From none other than The BBC:

"Polar bears are the most likely species to kill humans for food, as they assume anything they encounter is potential prey."

Also please read this document.

"When a group is working indoors in a remote area, scanning the area when one first approaches
it, and before one leaves any building, instrument shelter or vehicle (even briefly) is normally
considered adequate. Note that polar bears are known to lurk around occupied structures, waiting
for someone to emerge.
This mimics one of their styles of hunting--waiting patiently for a seal to
emerge from a breathing hole in the sea ice. One should also give particular attention to areas
underneath structures such as the Great White and the instrument platforms.

Posted by: Archonix at January 18, 2008 5:27 PM

I'm from Alaska. Born and raised (though I don't live there now). Carlos - yes. It's true. In fact on occasion, brown bears stalk, kill, and eat humans as well.

Do you ever verify facts or do a little research before making a fool of yourself?

This time you didn't.

Posted by: Jimbo at January 18, 2008 6:19 PM

Don't forget Grizzleys and cougars. Coyotes have been known to stalk small children too.

Posted by: orvict at January 18, 2008 6:39 PM

And Moonbats. They'll suck your baby's stem cells to live a few years longer.

Posted by: BUUUUURRRRNING HOT at January 18, 2008 9:02 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polar_bear#Behavior

Posted by: BUUUUURRRRNING HOT at January 18, 2008 9:29 PM

IMHO, the polar bears have plenty of room and, if the corporations in charge of the drilling, the pipelines, etc., exercise common sense and are well monitored by federal, state, and local authorities as well as the environmentalists, what's the problem?

Not every situation has to be cast into a Rovian, left/right epic battle.

Posted by: hashfanatic at January 18, 2008 9:46 PM

"I'm from Alaska. Born and raised (though I don't live there now). Carlos - yes. It's true. In fact on occasion, brown bears stalk, kill, and eat humans as well."

Well, yeah. Any non- moonbat, or anyone who's seen the film "Grizzly Man" would know that. He spent some of the movie studying the contents of bear droppings, only to end up ultimately BECOMING bear droppings.

Posted by: Adam at January 19, 2008 4:13 AM

Jimbo,

A polar bear is never going to attack a human intentionally, if a polar bear sees a human, probably the human never is going to see the bear, the danger is that a polar bear has a strong sense of territoriality and if the human invades the safety space of the bear, the bear considers it as an attack, then the bear attacks too.
What you would do if somebody would enter into your home in the same way?

Well, you are from Alaska, then I do not say a word more, you know more than me about this subject.
Just I think the bears do not kill humans deliberately, but the humans have been killing bears for food, and even for fun. You know it.

Posted by: carlos at January 19, 2008 4:33 AM

The Atmospheric Radiation Measurement Climate Research Facility operates in the north all year around, and has a safety document pdf, html, that states:

Polar bears are the only carnivores that hunt human beings for food.

And:

Note that polar bears are known to lurk around occupied structures, waiting
for someone to emerge.

They deliberately hunt humans even when they aren't starving.

Posted by: Archonix at January 19, 2008 6:21 AM

Carlos, the real world is not a Disney movie.

Posted by: V the K at January 19, 2008 8:32 AM

Meanwhile... Russia and Canada continue their explorations in the Artic.

Posted by: dpt at January 19, 2008 10:31 AM

First Carlos says that it's unlikely that polar bears will attack humans, then he says they will. Make up your mind, please.

HASH,
I know that you're not writing to please anyone but yourself, but I must point out that your post started out good, but then you went straight to suggesting GOVERNMENT CONTROL. This is the sure sign of a Liberal, loviing an all-powerfull goivernment that is answerable only to itself (That IS what you'll get with Liberalism Hash, no matter what YOU want).

Posted by: KHarn at January 19, 2008 10:35 AM

KHarn,

This article is redacted as if the polar bears are deliberately attacking humans for food, this is not true.
The only attacks over humans are caused by humans approaching too much in the space of a bear, it is an attack for defence, it is not an attack for food.

In the another hand, you have that many people does long distances to hunt bears, violating the restrictions over hunting even when some groups are close to the extinction and twisting the law for the convenience of the sport hunters (what is exactly the "sporting" of this hunt?).

The polar bear is not a menace for the man. The man is a menace for the polar bear.
I want not to be controversial, I want just expose the facts.
Is there anything in my comment that you consider it is not true?

Posted by: carlos at January 19, 2008 12:02 PM

Carlos said; "A polar bear is never going to attack a human intentionally"

Tell that to the cooks helper who was snatched off the rear platform of the oil rig my father was rig welder on. This was north of Kotzebue. All he did was step out to empty the trash - the bear was waiting just like a cat waits by a mouse hole. The bullcook was never seen again.

Not a horror story, a horrible truth.

Posted by: Jimbo at January 19, 2008 12:05 PM

Carlos, try reading the links I posted.* The ARM and other organisations working in the arctic would not create such detailed safety procedures for a bear that only attacked "defensively". Polar bears are known to track humans for miles in an attempt to run them down and kill them. You have all the evidence proving that polar bears can and do attack and hunt humans for food without provocation, so why persist with your now groundless argument?

*Yes, posted multiple times after an argument between my computer and Van's site, which apparently decided it no longer knew me... :)

Posted by: Archonix at January 19, 2008 12:18 PM

I have a lot of trouble believing that carlos believes what he writes. In fact, it's my opinion he knows he's writing a bunch of bull but feels the need to push the leftist point.

If carlos wants to check wikipedia, or any common encyclopedia he's welcome to it. But I doubt he will. There's far more documentation to prove that polar bears stalk and kill humans than there is for the theory of man-made global warming.

Posted by: NudeGayWhalesForJesus at January 19, 2008 2:29 PM

Archonix,

I did read your link and I do appreciate it very much, but if a organization sets its camp in a region known to have bears, it is usual they have a safety procedure for a possible attack because they have bursted into the territory of the bear. It is not the fault of the bear that the humans want to go where he is. I can not see that about polar bears persecuting human beings for miles, where is it?

In Canada, seven people have been killed by polar bears in the last period of 30 years.In Alaska, one person was killed in the last 30 years, probably he was the cook helper that Jimbo tells. In Alaska in the last 100 years, only 7 incidents.
In Russia, with a very long historic record, only 19 people have been killed by polar bears.
In all these cases it was reported a human negligence as to be too much close in the territory of a bear, or how a failed trying to hunt a bear. The (few)cases of attack for food in the last 41 years are reported as bears trying get food from the garbage, but you can not count that as an attack for human food, it would be an attack to get food from the human ones, not humans as food.
Now you can count how much polar bears have been killed by humans since 1600, and to think who is a menace for who.It is the people who have bursted into the home of the bear, not on the contrary.
Where is all that so abundant documentation that nudegay says?

Posted by: carlos at January 19, 2008 3:00 PM

Good point about the low number of kills, Carlos.

That's because those who live and work around them know them for what they are and act accordingly.

The bullcook that got snatched was, no doubt, of the impression polar bears don't stalk humans for food.

Posted by: Jimbo at January 19, 2008 3:10 PM

And FYI: my dad's been dead over 20 years, and this episode was sometime before that - so I'm guessing it's outside your 30-year stats. Try hacking employee records at Parker Drilling.

Posted by: Jimbo at January 19, 2008 3:43 PM

Okay, let me see if I'm getting all of this correctly. Despite the need to break our oil addiction per our oil man president, oil companys want to tap into the Alaskan coast to make more record profits, which ironically happens to be what our oil man president wants too. Oh, but we can't because of them there endangered cuddly polar bears. Ah, but let's ring the village bell and assemble to inform the townsmen of these evil bears true intentions, their wretched history, killer instincts, brutal slaughtering of women and children. Free rum for everyone as we listen to the atrocities and view cold blooded videos of bear mutilations. Now, not for oil, not for profit, even sacrificing our resolve of dependency, we must save the village by defending ourselves from these killer beast. We must annihilate these horrid creatures lest they gather in herds and attack at night. Once this is accomplished, we can rest in our beds once again, assured that our oil man president and the oil companies will utilize these new profits to help overcome our addiction at a later date.

Posted by: andy42302 at January 19, 2008 4:05 PM

Who is talking about "annihilating" anything?

And the villages have progressed - they have sirens now.

And its 'packs', not 'herds'.

:-)

Posted by: Jimbo at January 19, 2008 4:25 PM

I want a car that runs on polar bear fat.

Posted by: forest at January 19, 2008 4:34 PM

And its 'packs', not 'herds'.

Well Jimbo, I guess I stand corrected. No biggie. I'm a big boy and can take it.

Oh, and it's 'it's', not 'its'.

Posted by: andy42302 at January 19, 2008 4:40 PM

Got it #42302. Not its but it's isn't it.

forest; with seats covered in baby seal fur and with an oosik rather than bull horns adorning the hood.

Posted by: Jimbo at January 19, 2008 4:53 PM

An remember - if ya got bad grammer - yull git runned over by a pack of cows.

:-)

Posted by: Jimbo at January 19, 2008 5:07 PM

Polar bears are the only carnivores that hunt human beings for food.

They wash them down with a bottle of classic Coke afterwards.

Posted by: White Cane at January 19, 2008 6:22 PM

Forget it Carlos, you're wasting your time here. It's futile trying to argue logically with a bunch of wingnuts. You might as well try explaining advanced calculus to a 5-year-old.

Posted by: Neocons Eat Their Young at January 19, 2008 8:16 PM

polar bears,brown bears,grizzly bears,cougars,lions, tigers, Kamodo dragons,crocs, alligators,sharks...

Posted by: orvict at January 20, 2008 1:14 AM

try a google search for "canmore animal attacks"
Canmore is a town in the Canadian rocky mountains

Posted by: orvict at January 20, 2008 1:26 AM

polar bears, if properly prepared, taste just like prime rib.

Posted by: nanc at January 20, 2008 6:16 AM

The fact that so few people have been taken by bears just means that we humans are smarter than the average polar bear. The point is they are one of very few carnivores that actively hunt humans. Unlike, say, grizzlies, who do avoid confrontation with humans whenever they can, polar bears will go out of their way to stalk and hunt humans. They wait outside buildings for people to come out. That isn't the behaviour of an animal "reacting" to territorial invasion, that's the behaviour of a predator waiting for prey.

Why can't people accept that predators will hunt other animals? We're about the same size as a seal and the average human male would make a fairly good meal for a polar bear.

Posted by: Archonix at January 20, 2008 8:55 AM

This thing with the polar bears is not a right vs. left issue. Even moonbatty animal experts like Jeff Corwin admit that they are the only animal that will hunt humans if given the opportunity.

Occasionally desperate old lions or starving grizzlys will attack humans as game if they can't get food their usual ways. Sharks take "test bites" or bite because they are startled. Polar bears think that anything moving that is not another polar bear is a potential meal.

Jump off the tour bus and give it a try if you think they won't eat you.

Posted by: forest at January 20, 2008 10:41 AM

Again, a polar bear does not hunt humans, but he is a dangerous animal, in the same way that a herbivorous elephant is too, you can not think of wild animals as if they are there just to be seen by the humans, they have their own life and they are dangerous for a human, but to say there is polar bears hunting humans is just absurd.
If the polar bears are really hunting humans to eat them then all the arctic people would be killed in few weeks, the bear has advantage in the artic, but the historical records do not support that hypothesis. This is completely untrue.

Archonix , the behaviour of a bear is not to wait outside buildings to hunt humans, that does not work so, a polar bear wait close to holes on the surface of the ice, they are doing this since more 100000 years ago, they are not stalking for humans going outside of a building, because it has no sense for a bear. The water is down and the seals come from the water, a bear does not understand what is a building and he can not differentiate a closed door in a building as he does with a open hole in the ice.
He can feel curiosity for a structure, and the people that is investigating in the arctic, they must be careful, because to open a door and to have a sudden encounter with a bear can provoke a not predictible reaction, he can run away or he can attack, but that is not a stalking to eat humans. A polar bear does not stalk for humans.

Posted by: carlos at January 20, 2008 12:06 PM

http://www.timw.com/2006/07/31/others/human-eat-snake-snake-eat-human/
They're animals and we are on the menu.

Posted by: orvict at January 20, 2008 12:45 PM

If you want to try bear meat just remember it has to be cooked properly as they are known to carry trichinosis

Posted by: orvict at January 20, 2008 1:01 PM

"If the polar bears are really hunting humans to eat them then all the arctic people would be killed in few weeks,

/giggle/ he-he-he-he-HE-he-he

Whoa. You're a pretty smart guy, there... carlos is it?

Has anyone recorded this exchange - if not for posterity - at least for the pure comical value?

Liberals... Always jumping to delusions.

Ha!-ha-ha-ha. Hillaryious.

I gotta send the link to this to my family and friends in Alaska - Oh, Lord... I think I'm gonna bust a gut - someone call 911!!

Ha!-ha-ha-ha...

gawd help us all...

Posted by: Jimbo at January 20, 2008 5:41 PM

So how many bears before humans need to cull them to protect the environment from bear overpopulation killing all the baby seals?

In 1940, there were just 5,000 polar bears worldwide. Now that hunting is controlled, there are 25,000.

http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/monckton/goreerrors.html (Error no. 8)

Posted by: BUUUUURRRRNING HOT at January 20, 2008 7:25 PM

Jimbo,

You say "he-he-he-he-HE-he-he Ha!-ha-ha-ha. "
Oh wait, it is not this.

You say "I gotta send the link to this to my family and friends in Alaska"

Yes, do it, then you can ask them for the names and records of decease of the humans killed by bears in the last 100 years. I would like to see that.

Burning,

Your figures are not accurate. In 1940 there was no record of polar bears, in 1970 there was an estimation of 30000 individuals, for 2005 the estimation was round 22000 individuals.
The polar bears are in the list to be included under the Endangered Species Act, your country signed in 1973 the international agreement on the conservation of polar bears, you can not have overpopulation of a endangered species at the same time.

Posted by: carlos at January 21, 2008 6:33 AM

It's difficult for me to understand moonbattery when you guys are all aflutter but it appears that the argument is whether Polar bears are simply protecting their habitat or are they collecting man heads to put over their cave's fireplace. Are they stalking and waiting to snatch people at any giving opportunity? Well, whafin they are? What's the point? They've been there for thousands of years. Why does a need for corporate profit suddenly require a need to sound the village siren in order to protect the people? Something's amiss. Rationality seems to dissipate in moonbat fluttery. Probably the most intelligent post of this thread is when Neocons Eat Their Young says: "Forget it Carlos, you're wasting your time here. It's futile trying to argue logically with a bunch of wingnuts. You might as well try explaining advanced calculus to a 5-year-old" although that bar is a bit low.

Posted by: andy42302 at January 21, 2008 7:54 AM

The whole polar bear nonsense is ruse by the moonbats to make people think the lack of oil drilling in the arctic will save the polar bears. It wont. And will someone send Al Bore to Pennsylvania as WE ARE FREEZING OUR ASSES OFF !! Global Warming - yeah right. I bet the people in Siberia suffering thru -60 F temperatures need Al Bore to blow more hot air into their houses than I do.

If you want to save polar bears ban the Eskimos from hunting them!

Posted by: Anonymous at January 21, 2008 8:23 AM

I LOVE it when a wingnut experiences a cold snowy day and they take that as proof Global warming is a sham.

Every goddamn cold day some neocon wingnut comes to the brilliant conclusion that that's proof global warming is a sham.

Hell, we haven't been attacked by terrorists in nearly 7 years...I guess there is no terrorist threat.

Posted by: Anonymous at January 22, 2008 6:06 AM

That only means that our country is doing a great job preventing Al Qaeda from attacking their #1 enemy.

In 2006 there were 14,000 terrorist attacks resulting in over 20,000 deaths around the world.

Sunni terrorists claimed that they conducted the largest number of incidents with the highest casualty totals.

There is a serious problem with Sunni terrorism.

Posted by: Freedom Now at January 22, 2008 12:30 PM

"In 2006 there were 14,000 terrorist attacks resulting in over 20,000 deaths around the world."

If true, this only serves to proove that we are losing any "war" on terrorism.

Posted by: hashfanaticFAN at January 23, 2008 4:49 AM

That only proves that terrorists are successful at killing unarmed civilians and earning stupid comments like yours.

Posted by: Freedom Now at January 30, 2008 7:18 AM