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June 6, 2007

Canadian Greens: Raise Gas Taxes or Face Doom

If it isn't already clear why lefties would want us to believe in a climatic crisis that does not exist, this should help:

Canada's Green party wants to add an extra 12¢ per liter tax to gasoline, allegedly not because left-wing politicians will expropriate every last cent they can lay their claws on, but to avert environmental doom.

"We will use those carbon taxes to reduce taxes elsewhere," lied party leader Elizabeth May. Then she got nasty, accusing Prime Minister Stephen Harper of collaborating with the enemy — i.e., the sinister USA:

If we stop being with the rest of the world and start siding with George Bush, we are global saboteurs and that's what Mr. Harper is doing right now in Germany.

Canadians had better do the Greens' bidding, May warns, "for purposes of survival." Despite Harper's treachery, everything can still be okay if they can just jack up gas taxes so high that everyone north of the border ends up traveling by dog sled.

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Fortunately Canada will be spared from this, provided it raises taxes sufficiently.

Posted by Van Helsing at June 6, 2007 6:31 PM

Comments

"I believe that all of us in this room are the unique creations of a God who knows us and loves us and who created us for His own purpose."

"I believe that we are created in the image of God for a particular purpose. And I believe that with all my heart….I am fully convinced there’s a God of the universe that loves us very much…"

"I believe in God, believe in the Bible, I believe Jesus Christ is my savior. I believe God created man in His image."

"There’s no doubt in my mind that the hand of God was in what we are today. And I do believe that we are unique, and I believe that God loves us."

"We have great gifts in this country that come to us from God."

Excerpts from a Sunday church sermon? Heck, no. Those are excerpts from last night’s 10-candidate Republican presidential debate.

Absolutely disgusting! Anti-American! This is your Republican party. No different than the so-called Islamo-fascists you claim to despise. Same exact shit, different crummy God.

I call on all of you to denounce any "Republican" who uses this kind of barbaric reasoning in a political context. Come on, call shit when you see it. I dare you.

Posted by: Anonymous at June 7, 2007 1:09 AM

Show me a muslim tha talks about a god of love and compassion and the I might agree with you.

Posted by: Archonix at June 7, 2007 1:29 AM

Muslims think thier God is loving and compassionate towards other Mulsims. Christians think their God is the same towards other Christians only.

I don't see how the God of the old testament could be described as either"loving" or "compassionate", for that matter. It seems to me that all religions believe that there God is loving and compassionate towards believers, yet cruel, murderous, and unforgiving towards non-believers.

Same shit, different God. Simple as that.

Posted by: westerberg at June 7, 2007 1:41 AM

Show me a Republican who actually IS loving and compassionate and I might believe YOU.

Posted by: westerberg at June 7, 2007 2:28 AM

Muslims think thier God is loving and compassionate towards other Mulsims.

Dude, read the koran. There's only three or four references to love in there, and none of them refer to allah's attitude toward his creation, or even the muslim's attitude to allah. Allah is not a god of love or compassion. In the muslim world view god cannot know what love is, because love is imperfect and human.

The christian god is described as a god of love in very intimate terms throughout the bible, often in the terms of a mother toward her children, and a father, and all that jazz. Love is thrown back and forth between god and his people.

I suspect you haven't read the bible very deeply of you'd see that much of the 'hate' you speak of is very reluctant chastisement. God is not unforgiving at all, and very often went out of his way - according to the narrative - to give non-believers a chance to, if not believe, then at least do right by his people. Sometimes they did, and were suitably rewarded for their behaviour.

On top of which, as christians we live under the new covenant. You know, turn the other cheek and all that jazz. The scriptures become progressively more loving and compassionate as you move through them. Muslim scriptures go in the opposite direction. Hardly the 'same shit'.

And your last crack? Well, that just proves you don't get outside your little circle of lefty friends much. If at all. There's nothing worse than hanging around with people who agree with you all the time.

Posted by: Archonix at June 7, 2007 2:53 AM

Turn the other cheek? Love and compassion? Is this how you really view yourelves? Basically this site serves to condemn and ridiclue everyone who disagrees with it's narrow minded views.

And I don't know, condemning anyone who dosen't accpet Jesus as god to an infinity in hell, doesn't sound too loving or compassionate to me. Since when do any of you "Love your enemy" or believe in turning the other cheek. It's a laugh. Is that what we are doing in Iraq now, loving our enemy? Maybe you are right, because it's a war we sure aren't winning.

Were The Crusaders loving and compassionate? Was the Catholic Church during the second world war, or at anytime, loving and compassionate? Christianity was spread around the world largely through violence and threat, not through love nor compassion.

Was it mere chastisement when God slaughters and advocates the slaughter of the entire human race in the Noah's Ark story, or wipes out entire populations such as in Soddom and Gamorrah? The God in the old testamant requires the stoning death of anyone who breaks one of the ten commandments. No questions asked. Is that the "love" and "compassion" you speak of? Maybe your definition is different than mine.

The point is, however, that there is NO room for discussion of religious faith in a discussion of American politics. The fact that Republicans get up there and duel over who is More Christian than the other is proof that the party is Anti-American, and in direct oppostion to the founding fathers and everything our nation stands for. The Republican party has been completely hijacked by right wing fundamentlist zealots who pose a much greater risk to our nation than any Muslim.

Posted by: westerberg at June 7, 2007 3:38 AM

Wooo! This thread is plum full of guano.

Smelly.

Posted by: Jimbo at June 7, 2007 4:53 AM

No, westerberg has a point. After all, there were more christians on those planes than muslims. Perhaps they did it after all?

Posted by: Archonix at June 7, 2007 5:32 AM

westerberg, I suggest you head to Cuba, I hear they have excellent mental hospitals - at least thats what Michael Moore keeps telling us.

Posted by: Anonymous at June 7, 2007 5:36 AM

Arch - I also note westybum must not have watched the last democrap debate where all the candidates right down to Hillary claimed God as their own.

Posted by: Jimbo at June 7, 2007 5:37 AM

The difference between Islam and Christianity is that in Christianity, God sent His Son to die for you. In Islam, you send your son to die for God.

But I'm not surprised the left is shocked and appalled by the idea that Republican candidates believe in God. To the left, there is supposed to be no higher power than Government.

By the way, did John McCain, Ted Kennedy and Michael Chertoff write Home Depot's Shoplifting policy?

An internal memo from Home Depot outlines that associates cannot accuse, detain, chase or call the police on any customer for shoplifting.

"The loss-prevention guy at our Shields (Boulevard) store turned around and told me all we need to do is tell the shoplifter to have a good day as they leave the store. I said that just doesn't make sense."

Posted by: V the K at June 7, 2007 5:44 AM

OK then, American politics have been hijacked by right wing fundamentalis nutjobs. just like they hijacked our currency and the pledge of allegiance....

No, they were Saudi's who flew those planes into WTC, and a Saudi planned the thing, but we dare not fight the real islamo-fascists, do we? Let's go invade a secular nation, Iraq!

Posted by: westerberg at June 7, 2007 5:49 AM

Gee, westerberg. Who pissed in your bongwater?

Posted by: V the K at June 7, 2007 5:50 AM

"An internal memo from Home Depot outlines that associates cannot accuse, detain, chase or call the police on any customer for shoplifting. "

Wow!! I wonder if people will just start walking into Home Depots and carting everything thats not nailed down. If I were an amoral liberal I would just go to the nearest Home Depot and start grabbing everything I could get my hands on.

Posted by: Anonymous at June 7, 2007 6:28 AM

No, they were Saudi's who flew those planes into WTC, and a Saudi planned the thing, but we dare not fight the real islamo-fascists, do we?

I expect you won't get much argument on this point, westy. Seriously. Do you read or just snark?

Not that it matters. There are proven links between al-q and saddam hussein, and it was US policy since clinton's second term to instigate 'regime change' in Iraq. His links to terrorists simply made that much more expedient. We shouldn't have stopped there, though. We should have moved on the saudis as well.

Posted by: Archonix at June 7, 2007 8:34 AM

Actually, westerberg is one of the standard model trolls.

Posted by: V the K at June 7, 2007 10:25 AM

Liberals never can seem to understand the differencce between old and new testaments. Never can seem to understand Christianity is the new testament, the new way, very different from the old testament.

I hear all the time misinformed liberals "debating" Christianity, using quotes from the OLD TESTAMENT... Why do they think the new one is called "new"...?

What in the world was Jesus talking about when he said "You have heard it said...yet I say to you..."?

The answer is (although a liberal wouldn't admit it)...it doesn't matter. What matters is to bash Christianity with any lie you can think of, make it sound true, and convince as many other non-thinking lefties as you can.

Posted by: NudeGayWhalesForJesus at June 7, 2007 1:44 PM

V the K, that Flame Warrior link is hysterical!

Posted by: Pam at June 7, 2007 2:11 PM

So, you don't believe in the Old testament then?

Posted by: westerberg at June 8, 2007 12:00 AM

No, you see, I commented on the alarming and anti-american trend in our country to mix religion and politics. I am particularly discuoraged by the fact that Americans are being held hostage by right wing christian fundamentlaists, so called "born-again" types. In typical "loving and compassionate" Christian fashion, my comments were met with a combination of personal attack, and condemnation of Islam.

Why is it that you wing nuts freak out at even the slightest suggestion that our second amendment right to bear arms need to be crtitically looked at, but are happy to mix religion and politics? This is a fundemental guiding principal of our form of democracy for which none of you seem to have even the slightest respect. Our founding fathers were adamant that these two realms should never overlap. Jefferson was particularly critical of Christianity, and Washington made it abundantly clear that we are NOT a Christian nation, yet our politicains have to get up there and pay lip service to relgious nut jobs like Jimbo and V the K. It's sickening. It's something that presents a clear and present danger to the future of America, yet it's something you seem to accept happily, no less.

On antother note, it's very interesting to see so called Christians denouncing the Old testament, and therefore Jesus' father....weird...

Posted by: westerberg at June 8, 2007 2:24 AM

"Not that it matters. There are proven links between al-q and saddam hussein, and it was US policy since clinton's second term to instigate 'regime change' in Iraq. His links to terrorists simply made that much more expedient. We shouldn't have stopped there, though. We should have moved on the saudis as well."

Hey Archonix,

At least I would buy the consistency of your arguments if we really did go after the Saudis, but that's never going to happen. Do you have any idea why? I mean Al-qaeda is essentialy a Saudi orginazation, being founded by Saudis and all. Also Saudi Arabia is a country that follows Sharia law perhaps more strictly than any other country in the world, and truly practice institutionalized Islamo-fascism. But we will NEVER even criticize them..Why not? They are not even in the "axis of evil" Why not?

They are massive investors in America. They provide us with most of our oil. The Bush family (oil barons) have a long personal and proffesionl relationship with Saudi oil barons, sheiks, and royalty. Do you honestly believe that the Bush's are devoted to fighting Islamo fascism and terrorism. Hell No! we aren't even looking for the Saudi perpetrator of 911! It's much easier to go after a banana republic in Iraq, a republic that we funded and supported for years....Call them the bad guys, and commandeer their oil. Honestly, if you think it's about anything other than the true God of our society, MONEY, than you are as out of touch as the environmental moonbats you claim are suckers...

Posted by: westerberg at June 8, 2007 2:37 AM

No, westerturd. The founding fathers were not "adamant" that religion and politics should never overlap. The establishment clause was to prevent the establishment of a state religion that everyone was compelled to belong to. It was not intended the way you and the secular left want it to mean... the systematic purging and bannning of all religious expression from public life.

Maybe if you spent time with real Christians, instead of wallowing in your leftist bigotry, hatred, and stereotypes, you'd see Christians are not a "threat" to this country. Indeed, Christians and Jews are the only hope for this country.

Posted by: V the K at June 8, 2007 4:33 AM

VtK, ignore the troll. He's nuttier than a syphilitic badger on 'shrooms.

Posted by: Crush Liberalism at June 8, 2007 5:16 AM

Point taken, CL.

Posted by: V the K at June 8, 2007 8:35 AM