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February 14, 2007

Sulejmen Talovic Does His Best to Wake Us Up

Sulejmen Talovic was a Muslim immigrant from Bosnia who ended up in Salt Lake City. Planning "to kill a large number of people," he showed up at a crowded Utah shopping mall Monday with a shotgun, a .38, and a backpack full of ammunition.

He managed to kill five and wound four. The body count would have been much higher, if off-duty Ogden police officer Ken Hammond hadn't been on hand to pin down Talovic with gunfire until other officers arrived to help.

According to WaPo, investigators are "still trying to figure out" Talovic's motives for wanting to kill random Americans. I have a tip for them: Talovic belonged to the same blood-thirsty cult as Mohammed Reza Taheri-azar, who ran over nine random infidels on the University of North Carolina campus with a rented SUV. This cult was behind the murder of nearly 3,000 Americans on 9/11.

It might be time to start exercising some minimal caution regarding who gets into this country.

Ken Hammond: "Everything happened for a reason."

Posted by Van Helsing at February 14, 2007 8:23 AM


Hear, hear! Your call on limiting immigrants from hostile countries comes on the very same day President Bush called for letting 7,000 Iraqi refugees per year into the US (up from just a few hundred a year now).

Why should the radicals "follow the troops home" as the Republicans have been claiming in debates on the House floor this week?

Bush and company wants to make sure they BEAT our troops home!

Posted by: Ronald Reagan at February 14, 2007 11:17 AM

I do not think you should ever compare Bosnians to iraqui. This has nothing to do with 9/11. This has to do with him being a sick individual who decided to ruin his life as well as the life of his mother. If an American kid did something like this you wouldn't compare him to an Iraqui but you would find some past bad experience or abuse as a motive behind the shooting. Just because Sulejmen was Muslim doesn't make hima terrorist. If we are to control who gets into this country what do you suggest we do for people that were born here and kill people in high schools, bomb buildings etc?????

Posted by: Anonymous at February 14, 2007 11:30 AM

Yeah, I agree - the Iraqi comparison is weak.
Suljeman was Bosniak, or a Slavic Muslim. He probably looked as white as Joe and Jane American. I think it would be hard pressed to draw a connection between a Bosniak's brand of Islam and that of of a Saudi, Iraqi or someone from an Arabic country.

Like their European neighbors Croats and Serbs; the vast majority of Bosniaks drink and wear western cloths. Some even eat pork and in general have a relaxed interpretation of Islam.

Mr. Talovic was probably no exception.

As such, I doubt that Talovic killed people in this mall for Allah. It is probable that he was just a deranged creep and it was an unfortunate incident.

Posted by: Tim N at February 14, 2007 11:45 AM

Okay...where is your source that he belongs to al-Qaeda or any other organization for that matter? How do you even know he was a Muslim?

Posted by: Chris at February 14, 2007 11:47 AM

"How do you even know he was a Muslim?"

Well, if my name is Sean O'Malley, how do you know I am a Christian? Gee, I'll go out on a limb and say he probably was a Muslims as his name is Sulejmen Talovic and he is a Bosnian. Most people who name their child after a Muslim warrior-sultan (ever heard of Suleiman?) are indeed Muslim, and practically every Bosnian is Muslim.

Get a clue. Go read "While Europe Slept," "America "Alone," "Londonsitan," "Eurabia" or "American Jihad" and tell me we have nothing to fear from Muslims. Moderate pork eating, beer drinking Muslims, you say? Well, Mohammed Atta and his friends, on Sept. 10 and a few days before, visited strip clubs, drank alcohol, paid for lap dances, watched porn movies, and may have hired prostitutes.

After all that "moderate Muslim" fun, they awoke on September 11, 2001 and flew two airplanes into the World Trade Center and one into the Pentagon, in total killing approximately 3000 Americans.

Face it, you're an infidel to them.

Posted by: DAN at February 14, 2007 12:08 PM

His name and where he came from in the Balkans is a good indicator that he was a Muslim. Is that proof positive? No, but percentages say that is what he is. It's too bad that he was shot and killed by the police because more than likely he would have spouted off some odious b.s. justifying why he felt the need to walk into a mall and indiscrinately murder five people he probably never met, including three women, one who was only 15 years old. What bravery... Almost as brave as the Mulsim nutjob who felt that driving into a crowd of college kids at one of the most liberal campuses in America was the best way to speak up for 'his' people around the globe.

Posted by: Bigman69 at February 14, 2007 12:17 PM

Looks like the troll Ronald Reagan decided to make a few additional posts that all supported his "cause". What a fool.

Posted by: NudeGayWhalesForJesus at February 14, 2007 12:34 PM

By the way, I think it's so funny that these libs are living in so much denial. A muslim kills a lot of people and no one can seem to figure out the reason...hhmmmm...

think...think...think, man, think...what could make a muslim want to kill a bunch of Americans.

hahaha!!! You libs are so funny. We'll call you Sheba, queen of denial.

Posted by: NudeGayWhalesForJesus at February 14, 2007 12:37 PM

"This has to do with him being a sick individual who decided to ruin his life as well as the life of his mother."

What about the people he MURDERED? What about THEIR families? Don't they count to you Liberals?

Posted by: KHarn at February 14, 2007 12:44 PM

"What about the people he MURDERED? What about THEIR families? Don't they count to you Liberals?"

You obviously haven't been studying your Liberal Manifesto like a good politically correct secular progressive.

Traditionally, innocent bystanders are considered victims. But since that's the "traditional" way, it HAS to be wrong.

"Traditional" represents the status quo, the sworn enemy of the secular progressive. In "newthink", if it seems right, it's wrong. If it seems wrong, it's right. If it sounds patriotic, it's evil. If it sounds subversive, it's good. If it helps the helpless, bad. If it uplifts the bad guys and tries to explain WHY they murdered innocent people or raped little girls and then somehow justifies it, well that's right up lib alley!

Posted by: NudeGayWhalesForJesus at February 15, 2007 10:39 AM

While you guys sit here making this into some libs vs conservatives radical muslim terrorist bullshit, why dont you actually look at the FACTS as we know them.

the kid is 18. he has video games and computers, that the cops have yet to confiscate. he's described by neighbors as "a lanky loner that wears black". everyone including his parents described him as a quiet, shy, loner that they would never expect to hurt a fly. he walks into the mall for no reason, wearing a trench coat, and starts killing random people.

who else can you think of in recent times that murdered a bunch of innocent bystanders that fits this description? oh thats right, those kids in Columbine. and that guy at the college in Toronto.

this is just another lonely fucked up goth kid that lost it and went on a rampage. im sure there will be more. jesus, wake up and realize noone living in America under the age of 20 gives half a shit about radical islamic beliefs, or political agendas. he was probably just pissed cause his gf dumped him or his mommy yelled at him for not cleaning his room. you guys are retarded.

Posted by: Darkwing Duck at February 15, 2007 3:42 PM

I am commenting on the lack of awareness on the part of utah in general. The people of utah live in a bubble, and that is why they are caught off guard. Hopefully this will wake the people, of this sleeping state, up. They do not have the sensiblity of todays aware populace. I live here now, and I am shocked at the lack of diligence here when it comes to terrorism. I call it terrorism, because it is. Whether or not it was radical Islam or not, it is still a form of terror.

I am also a little bit miffed at some of the comments by certain police men, that made comments about how they were so glad that there were no citizens that had concealed weapons permits. They stated that it would have compounded the problem. I say, baloney!!!!!! The good citizens that have concealed weapons permits could have stopped this killer before he killed 5 people. This attitude that citizens with concealed weapons are just in the way, is absurd and irresponsibile on the part of those cops that made the statement on the radio.

It is a proven fact that when the population of a country have more weapons, that there is less crime, because citizens have the ability to react immediately to a gun threat. Whereas the police cannot be everywhere all the time.

I am sure those families that lost their loved ones to this terrorist, whould have been very appreciative to a common citizen who might have stopped a killer like this, before he killed their loved on, and not have been concerned about the individual carrying a legal concealed weapon.

Posted by: Dave at February 15, 2007 6:02 PM

Darkwing Duck:
If you think technology is so evil, get off your computer and take a look at REALITY! Idiots like yourself have been blaiming junk for CENTURIES, way back in 1915 a study was done that blaimed MOVIES. In the 1870's a study blaimed NEWSPAPER reports of the indian wars. A hundred years before that, BOOKS were damned.
Did it ever occure to you that this murdering b*****d was just a mean son of a b***h?

Posted by: KHarn at February 15, 2007 7:13 PM

Well, I don't think he was blaming technology KHarn, he is just a Leftie trying to make excuses for da Muslims. They do the same with the blacks and thier violence. As a side note, however, movies and books and music is known to make people more violent. There is a correlation between the abomination of our pop culture and the negative influences it has on our kids.

Posted by: Chris at February 15, 2007 8:27 PM

First off, Sulejmen Talovic is a Muslim from Bosnia. The most obvious reason he would do all or any of this is due to what he has gone through as a kid. The same reason he fled the country in the first place. Don't you think he's used to seeing this type of violence in his own country?? Soldiers breaking down his door and killing everyone in his family..He lives with his mom. His father was probably killed the same way - Fighting for his country. He was just a kid with bad memories, that's all. The civil between Bosnian MUSLIMS and Bosnian SERBS has been going on for years. Don't you think it has an impact on a child??? Especially if his parents owned guns for self-defense in their homes.. Really people....How does an 18-year-old Bosnian MUSLIM *KID* connect with the Al-Qaeda or any other organization for that matter?? Just because he is a Muslim, doesn't mean he's in an organization with the Iraqis.

Posted by: mona at February 16, 2007 7:20 AM

It's funny how all of America jumps on this because the kid turns out to be a MUSLIM. Everyone rants and raves that he MUST have been a terrorist just because he's muslim. Excuse me...but what religion was the Columbine shooter? Damn. He couldn't have been a Christian! His real name MUST have been something MUSLIM for him to have done what he did. Get over it people. It has nothing to do with religion. First of all, Bosnia is not anything like any Arab country. How many of you that have taken the time to bash muslims have been to Bosnia? Having worked there, I can assure you it is not like an Arab country with radical muslims. How many of you know how many Chinese muslims there arein the world? Second, think of what this kid experienced as a child. While you were all out riding your bikes, playing at the park, or whatever...this kid was living in a a city where almost all the males were executed. You don't think that tends to mess with one's mind? Did it ever occur to anyone that this child may have cried at night, praying that the American super-power would do something to save him, rather than just sit by and watch what he was going through? The kid needed help. He didn't need guns and what he did is NOT justified...but he came to a country where anyone can obviously get a gun anywhere. Maybe the American people should look at getting some sort of gun control laws. Who knows? Maybe the number of shootings would go down? But hey, why waste time fixing your own problems...when there are so many muslims in the world to hate?

Posted by: Anonymous at February 16, 2007 4:37 PM

Should I point out the obvious? Muslims kill because that's actually their religious teachings. For Christians, their religious teachings (the teachings of Jesus) say NOT to kill.

A Muslim that kills in the name of his religion is FOLLOWING his religion.

A Christian that kills in the name of his religion is TWISTING his religion.

Get it?

Anonymous doesn't realize, Muslims around the world want to kill Americans. They ARE our problem. Anonymous likes his head in the sand, it's comfortable down there, blaming the U.S. for everything, not lifting that head up, not caring.

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