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July 16, 2011
Open Thread
Posted by Dave Blount at July 16, 2011 8:21 PM

Compliments of Cons.Underground.
Comments
Isn't it funny how faithless, core-less, value-less progressives always see Armageddon looming?
I live in So Cal. We were supposed to be facing the end of the world this weekend. The local media has dubbed it "Carmageddon". Why? Because (gasp!) they are closing a stretch of busy freeway.
OH MY GOD, the END OF LIFE ON EARTH!
Or is it. From Fox:
Unusually light traffic flowed freely through the nation's second-largest city despite fears of epic traffic jams spawned by the 53-hour shutdown of a 10-mile stretch of one of the region's most critical freeways.
Now...what was that about the "debt crisis" again?
Posted by: Wyatt's Torch at July 16, 2011 8:35 PM
"The most fundamental fact about the ideas of the political left is that they do not work. Therefore we should not be surprised to find the left concentrated in institutions where ideas do not have to work in order to survive..." –- Thomas Sowell
Posted by: A. Levy at July 16, 2011 8:40 PM
Wyatt,
Your Carmageddon was all over our news last night. It looked like it was going to be a real nightmare. The following link has a picture of an almost deserted freeway.
I wouldn't be surprised if Obama will take credit for the successful project.
"As construction progressed on the Mulholland Drive bridge over the 405 Freeway on Saturday afternoon, city and county officials toured the site and praised organizers for a smooth sailing 'Carmageddon.'"
Posted by: Jodie at July 16, 2011 9:40 PM
Politicians,liberals,lawyers,demacrats,rats,snakes,reptiles and other undeserible lower lifeforms
Posted by: SPURWING PLOVER at July 16, 2011 9:58 PM
What was it the last time that 0BAMA claimed the end of the world was near......unless we passed it?
zer0 is such a drama queen.
Posted by: ED357 at July 16, 2011 11:28 PM
Atlanta Schools Killed Thousands of Egos
The Georgia Bureau of Investigation recently uncovered a systemic, systematic conspiracy by Atlanta teachers and administrators to misrepresent and falsely enhance the achievement of their students and usurp student rights to do their own cheating by changing answers on statewide tests and creating the illusion that both teachers and students were doing well.
The effort gained Atlanta’s Superintendent of Schools Beverly Hall wide national acclaim and accolades as an outstanding educational leader. After the cheating was revealed, she resigned in disgrace while still maintaining her innocence and ignorance of any wrongdoing.
Hall may have been ignorant but she is hardly innocent. Not unexpectedly, Hall pledged her “full cooperation” in the GBI investigation and provided none. (http://bit.ly/p6MPo5)
New details on the massive scandal involving 178 teachers and principals in 44 Atlanta public schools have now emerged.
Teachers not only altered student answers but deviously located slow students near better students during tests in order to facilitate cheating, thereby giving the teachers somewhat of a break from erasing all those incorrect answers. Cheating for their students also saved teachers from the onus of providing extra help for those struggling.
One of the accused teachers–82 have confessed–told investigators that Supt. Hall’s district was “run like the mob.” Another claimed, “Everybody was in fear. It is not that the teachers are bad people and want to do it. It is that they are scared.” Others ”complained to investigators that some students arrived at middle school reading at a first-grade level. But, they said, principals insisted those students had to pass their standardized tests. Teachers were either ordered to cheat or pressured by administrators until they felt they had no choice.” (http://huff.to/oTIjhh)
Not bad, my foot! . . .
(Read more at http://www.genelalor.com/blog1/?p=4997)
Posted by: Berlet98 at July 17, 2011 12:04 AM
Dave, will you ever run something if a Christian blows something up? Most commenters here seem to discriminate in favor of Christianity.
Posted by: TheDarkEricDraven at July 17, 2011 12:36 AM
And thats terrible, Berlet. (System needs an edit feature so there is no need for double posts. For some reason, latest posts stay hidden to me untill I make a post of my own.)
Posted by: TheDarkEricDraven at July 17, 2011 12:38 AM
"...some students arrived at middle school reading at a first-grade level..."
All this time I thought Eric claimed to be from Arkansas...
Posted by: Tim from TK at July 17, 2011 1:01 AM
I will never understand the mentality of people who insist on trying to argue and convert those who will never, ever accept anything they believe. It's got to be yet another form of retardation: the troll* here exhibit the inability to consider, as a normal adult or even adolescent can, that no one agrees with them and if they just keep on with the snark and insults, someone will love them.
On second though, is that a sign of retardation or of psychosis? Maybe it's just an especially obnoxious variant of parasocial interaction.
*like Father Merrin in The Exorcist, I'm convinced "there is only one."
Posted by: gorgo at July 17, 2011 4:16 AM
'Them' and 'they' in the above should be in quotes, sorry.
Posted by: gorgo at July 17, 2011 4:17 AM
"TheDarkEricDraven at July 17, 2011 12:36 AM"
He has. Will you and your kind EVER admit that muslims blow shit up? Or that commjunism is a cluster-fuck no matter WHO runs the show? Or that Obama's masters are screwing up the country? Will you idiots ever realize that yourt ideals are a disaster waiting to happen?
It's painfully obvious that you were fed a lot of socialist crap and joined the mob of fools because it was "kewl". You SAY that you have no use for Obama, so why don't you tell us what he and his masters are doing wrong? There are a lot of REGRESSIVES who are complaining that he's not a true DICTATOR; is that your complaint?
Posted by: KHarn at July 17, 2011 4:38 AM
Posted by: Reaganite Republican at July 17, 2011 4:40 AM
Posted by: KHarn at July 17, 2011 4:38 AM
You have a warped understanding of communism. We can make it paradise on Earth. Technology can serve mankind if we all agree to cooperate and work together communally without plutocrats creating hardship and artificial scarcity.
Posted by: Ivan at July 17, 2011 5:50 AM
KHarn at July 17, 2011 4:38 AM
Okay, okay, you've got me there. But what do you expect when I dream of this, but in reality only getthis?
Posted by: TheDarkEricDraven at July 17, 2011 5:53 AM
And when you get a moment, please drop by and visit my website:
Posted by: Ivan at July 17, 2011 5:56 AM
How, Ivan? How will this paradise be brought about? Because so far it seems to have required a great deal of death and oppression and using the power of the state to force people to "share". Sharing at the point of a gun isn't sharing, it's theft.
Posted by: Archonix at July 17, 2011 5:58 AM
That wasn't me. Stop impersonating me.
Posted by: Ivan at July 17, 2011 5:58 AM
Posted by: Archonix at July 17, 2011 5:58 AM
It will be brought about through education of and direct action from the disaffected masses. The people, robbed by plutocrats to the brink of misery, will develop a class consciousness and rise up against their oppressive masters.
Posted by: Ivan at July 17, 2011 5:59 AM
In other words they'll steal what they can't produce themselves.
Posted by: Archonix at July 17, 2011 6:00 AM
Posted by: Archonix at July 17, 2011 6:00 AM
No, they will liberate what has been stolen from them.
You need to learn the difference between techno-communism and Marxism-Leninism. Marx and Lenin never anticipated how technology can serve man. In a techno-communist system, the sharing of high technology means that robots and automation will do most of the work, freeing the people from the need to engage in most forms of labor. Marxism-Leninism retained the necessity of extensive human labor, merely redirecting the full output of labor to the people.
What will you do when technology makes 80% of current jobs obsolete. The plutocrats who can afford the high technology will continue living in decadence. If we do not liberate the technological means of production from them then we will starve and die.
Technology must be liberated so it can serve all of mankind. If you are obsolete in a capitalist system then you will be liquidated. If you are obsolete in a techno-communist system then you are free to be served by the automation created and owned by the people.
Posted by: Ivan at July 17, 2011 6:06 AM
Ivan, the problem is that your system can't produce the technology you say it needs to survive. It's inherently parasitic, waiting for capitalism to produce the necessary robots and automation, then stealing it away from its creators without any compensation. We're not talking about "plutocrats" here, but hard working men and women who have often spent their entire lives perfecting some piece of technology. Communism produces nothing, even your vaunted techno-communism will produce nothing. All it can do is imitate and steal.
In a capitalist system, you are only as obsolete as you choose to be. Free enterprise means you are free to pursue anything you think will work, as an individual, and to benefit from it when it does.
In communism, everything you do must be directed towards the goals set by the state. In communism, there is no advance, because the state cannot anticipate the future, nor can it anticipate the possibility of creative genius springing up in unexpected places.
And those plutocrats you keep talking about? They're usually the ones paying for the propaganda you read and spout back at us.
Posted by: Archonix at July 17, 2011 6:15 AM
Ivan 'Namejacker' at July 17, 2011 5:58 AM
Sounds vaguely familiar. Almost like some former DU sock puppet we knew around here named after some obscure commie country.
Posted by: Ivan at July 17, 2011 6:25 AM
Gorgo, za trollz iz vhat ve in za field of pzychiatry callz...za dumazzez. It iz za common dizorder und typical of za liberal mind due to za low brain czell count. It iz NOT za narcizziztic perzonality dizorder NPD but iz zimilar in zhat zhey exzhibit refuzal to recognoze reality. Ve call zhat ZFB or Zhit For za Brainz.
I hope zhat helpz. I vill zee the nexzt patzient now. Dark Draven Eric? Come in und lie down on za zofa.
Posted by: dr. von helznink at July 17, 2011 6:26 AM
Every day President Obama is freeing toiling masses from the bonds of wage slavery. An ever growing number of former oil rig, construction, and retail workers, who once toiled under the yoke of capitalist oppression, have now heroically joined with liberated multitudes whose daily wants and needs are provided by the government.
In just three years Obama has emancipated 12 million former wage earners, adding them to the glorious Food Stamp program - that is a victorious 38% increase for a total of 44 million. No longer exploited for their labor, these men and women are free to live a sparse life without the stress of unnecessary choices, or the burden of supporting the decadent consumer society. Those who once were mere cogs in the monstrous capitalist planet-raping machine, now can enjoy a guilt-free life of government dependency.
As impressive as Obama's success has been, there still remain those who are bitterly clinging to self-reliance - a debilitation condition caused by false consciousness, the dark legacy of capitalist propaganda. To those still shackled to a job: do not give up hope! Our progress is unstoppable! Obama has plans for many more regulations and taxes - a tried and true way to beat back the vicious creation of jobs and prosperity in the reactionary private sector.
Soon you too will enjoy a scant existence with your very own Obamacard. Experience the glory of heroic and selfless sacrifice for the Greater Good™ as your children grow up loving the indiscriminate largess of the government's giving hand!
Posted by: Ivan at July 17, 2011 6:27 AM
Gorgo, za trollz iz vhat ve in za field of pzychiatry callz...za dumazzez. It iz za common dizorder und typical of za liberal mind due to za low brain czell count. It iz NOT za narcizziztic perzonality dizorder NPD but iz zimilar in zhat zhey exzhibit refuzal to recognoze reality. Ve call zhat ZFB or Zhit For za Brainz.
I hope zhat helpz. I vill zee the nexzt patzient now. Dark Draven Eric? Come in und lie down on za zofa.
Posted by: dr. von helznink at July 17, 2011 6:32 AM
Ivan, please give an example of ANYPLACE on earth that communism has worked the way you claim. Beaurocrats in communist countries lived large off the backs of the proles, callously watching as them slowly starve. EPIC FAIL!
Posted by: Anonymous at July 17, 2011 6:35 AM
Michael Moore has announced his latest explosive documentary: Hugo Chavez, Martyr to Socialized Medicine.
...When the symptoms worsened for the embattled President of Venezuela, this true advocate of socialized medicine went to get treatment in Cuba. The island's Chief Surgeon Rafael Bernardo explains: "When we first operated on President Chavez we'd thought he had an abscessed Wish Bone - a misdiagnosis caused by the criminal Yankee war of imperialism and the inhuman blockade of Cuba. After several unsuccessful operations on a Funny Bone, his Spare Ribs, and Water on the Knee we realized Chavez had cancer of the Bread Basket."
From the documentary: teaching surgery to medical students with few surviving pre-1950s medical training devices.
Michael Moore: "In today's America obsolete medical training devices from the 1950s have long been converted to games for the medical community's leisure hours."
Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad:
"We must all pray that some grotesque Zionist infiltrator does not sabotage the efforts of the fine Socialist physicians who are working to save Chavez's life."
Of course, if it were not for the U.S. embargo we would have operated on his Bread Basket sooner," said Chief Surgeon of the Cuban Escuela Latinoamericana de Ciencias Médicas.
"Our doctors, though the best in the world, are forced to learn medicine using 1950s pre-revolution medical training devices - much like the Iraqi doctors under Saddam Hussein when their country was also suffering from the U.S. embargo," he said.
"The world community should make Americans feel shame and guilt for not allowing the heroic Cuban people to live off generous donations from rich Western individuals and corporations, like all the other heroic socialist nations of the Third World do," Cuban doctors said.
Michael Moore adds: "President Chavez's grave medical condition is yet another proof that the capitalist Empire of America will do everything possible to force the Cuban people to live on so little for so long."
Posted by: Ivan at July 17, 2011 6:35 AM
Oh zo zorry. I zee you are here az one of your other perzonalitiez today. Pleaze take za zeat, Ivan. I promize. No ztrait jacketz thiz time.
Posted by: dr. von helznink at July 17, 2011 6:46 AM
Incredibly, ABC actually reported the story where BO got the date of his birthday wrong.
And this coming from a man who (ostensibly) wrote two (that's "2" -count 'em) autobiographies.
Although ABC calls it a "senior moment" its evident that BO hasn't looked closely at his latest faked birth certificate.
Doesn't this guy do any work?
Posted by: Fiberal at July 17, 2011 6:48 AM
The last post from me was at 6:06. The rest are impersonators.
Posted by: Ivan at July 17, 2011 6:48 AM
Impostor!
How dare you question the wisdom of our Great Leader and Teacher?
It's off to reeducation camp for you.
I am the real Ivan! Useless idiot!
Posted by: Ivan at July 17, 2011 6:52 AM
Posted by: Archonix at July 17, 2011 6:15 AM
A socialist system can produce advance technology. Stop apologizing for the crimes capitalism has committed against you. Stop being a victim of Stockholm syndrome.
You apologize for capitalism today but one day it will render you obsolete. In capitalism, when you no longer need to work, you are obsolete and destroyed. The loss of income is seen as a failure. In techno-communism, when you no longer have to work, you are liberated. That becomes a victory.
Posted by: Ivan at July 17, 2011 6:53 AM
Posted by: Ivan at July 17, 2011 6:52 AM
Stop trolling me. I am trying to have a serious conversation and hopefully convert a bagger or two.
Posted by: Ivan at July 17, 2011 6:56 AM
Posted by: Archonix at July 17, 2011 6:15 AM
In order to bring about the socialist paradise embodied in the phrase, "From each according to ability, to each according to need," we must not only apply this principle to the productive and unproductive in society, but also extend it to the anti-productive, i.e., the criminal.
If reward is unrelated to the degree of production, then punishment should also be unrelated to the degree of criminality, i.e., anti-production. It is clearly unfair that one person should be imprisoned for life while another serves a mere 30-day sentence. We propose all punishment should be equal regardless of criminal ability.
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Only when we have equal reward and equal punishment for every citizen can we be a just society of total equality. Since people live to different ages, a one-year sentence will be greater punishment for the shorter-lived than the longer-lived. Therefore, the only fair and equitable punishment would be life in prison for everyone. That would be the ultimate embodiment of social and economic equality.
Unfortunately, no catchy slogan exists to encapsulate this idea. Still, if "From each according to ability, to each according to need" makes sense, then this extension to criminal ability must make sense as well. We are open to your suggestions; a pithy slogan beats an actual argument every time. And fits better on a protest sign to boot.
Posted by: Ivan at July 17, 2011 6:59 AM
And need and ability are defined by...?
Posted by: Archonix at July 17, 2011 7:03 AM
Real "Ivan", thank you for checking in from the planet Grbxyz. Now go get fucked.
Posted by: AndyPandy at July 17, 2011 7:08 AM
Ivan at 6:59 is so hard to distinguish from the real Ivan that I actually thought they were the same person. That's shocking.
:D
Posted by: Archonix at July 17, 2011 7:11 AM
Better a Bagger than a Fagger.
Posted by: Beth at July 17, 2011 7:12 AM
How many countries got rid of their Commie dicktator leaders last year? Was it 2 or 3? I'm sure it was three. When we gonna get rid of ours?
Communism is so successful and so loved that it can only be applied by deception and force. And so it was with GREAT pleasure that I read of their forced ouster by coup and citizen overthrow. Our turn next I hope.
Posted by: Ted at July 17, 2011 7:16 AM
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Günther is my middle name.
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Posted by: Ivan at July 17, 2011 7:32 AM
Most commenters here seem to discriminate in favor of Christianity.
Please provide an example.
Posted by: Anonymous at July 17, 2011 7:41 AM
C'mon Ivan, one example of communism working as you've described. It should be easy for someone so intellectually gifted in the communism vs capitalism debate as yourself.
Posted by: Anonymous at July 17, 2011 7:43 AM
Stop trolling me. I am trying to have a serious conversation and hopefully convert a bagger or two.
Posted by: Ivan at July 17, 2011 6:56 AM
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PISS OFF, DOUCHEBAGGER!
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Posted by: Ummah Gummah at July 17, 2011 7:45 AM
Capitalism can't be stopped.
Posted by: Henry at July 17, 2011 7:45 AM
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I AM THE REAL IVAN!!!!
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Posted by: Günther at July 17, 2011 7:52 AM
Günther is my middle name.
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Posted by: Ivan at July 17, 2011 7:32 AM
I thought your middle name was copy and paste.
Posted by: Anonymous at July 17, 2011 7:54 AM
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My other name is Anontard.
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Posted by: Anonymous at July 17, 2011 7:57 AM
Ivan, did you steal my idea about Robot Communism after I told you your ideology would be worthless once we get robots to do all the work? Yes, you did you disgusting little man. There is a 40 foot tall robot called Liberty Prime that was built for the sole purpose of killing commies.
Posted by: Dookiestain LaFlair at July 17, 2011 8:29 AM
Posted by: Wilberforce at July 17, 2011 8:39 AM
Shiver recounts her experience in “Why the Shock Over Atlanta Teacher Cheating?” Her suburban high school was integrated in 1968, with the enrollment of three black students and the hiring of her school’s first black, a biology teacher. As she writes, ”Our new students were just like us in all ways that counted. They dressed like us. They talked like us. They studied like us. Back then, a middle-class American was pretty much interchangeable with every other middle-class American.”
That was then. The now was represented by the biology teacher.
Said teacher “rambled through hours of class time, telling stories from her life rather than teaching. Her tests were either taken from the teacher’s text or were so badly written that no student could even decipher the questions.” Very soon, the complaints hit the fan with parents insisting she be fired. Shiver adds, “These parents weren’t racists; they were just responsible citizens demanding qualified teachers.”
Today, their complaints would be interpreted as prima facie evidence of racism.
Shiver concluded her article with a sad commentary on today: ”The teacher stayed. The fix was in. The principal put his ‘integrated faculty’ accolade above his students’ education. . . Some of us students took novels to class to dull the boredom. Others passed notes. But no one complained . . . The death-of-public-education die had been cast.” (http://bit.ly/nNH9qz)
Posted by: Anonymous at July 17, 2011 8:48 AM
Dave, will you ever run something if a Christian blows something up? Most commenters here seem to discriminate in favor of Christianity.
Posted by: TheDarkEricDraven at July 17, 2011 12:36 AM
First, in general Christians don't blow things up, but Moselms do all the time. Second, yes, of course he will run the story if one actually does. Third, no, nobody discriminates in favor of Christianity - we merely point out how tools like you seem to embrace Islam and trash Christianity every chance you get.
Posted by: Anonymous at July 17, 2011 8:49 AM
Obama's Senior Moment: 'I'll be turning 50 in a week.'
Actually…he’ll be turning 50 in three weeks. His birthday is August 4, two days after the debt ceiling deadline. Senior moment?
He messed up Malia’s birthday, too, calling her 13 when she was at the time 12 and still days away from becoming a teenager.
Could be the teleprompter's senior moment.
Posted by: Incitatus at July 17, 2011 8:50 AM
"Ivan at July 17, 2011 5:59 AM"
And slaughter millions.
Posted by: KHarn at July 17, 2011 8:51 AM
Bizzaro world is right! After watching the Sunday morning talk shows today and hearing mostly republican bashing and very little truth, I decided that instead of all that, the problem can be summed up in one sentence. I just pray that there will be a republican leader strong enough to point this out:
OUR CHRISTIAN, CAPITALIST NATION IS BEING RUN BY A COMMUNIST MUSLIM WITH AN ULTIMATE GOAL OF SHARIA LAW.
Simple as that.
Posted by: Jodie at July 17, 2011 8:59 AM
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Jodie, I think so too. I hope he doesn't try and nuke something when he is removed from office. You can bet your last dime that he'll pardon a host of unsavory characters like Mumia abu Jamal, thus endearing himself forever to the international Left and the UN.
I think he's going to try and become GS of the United Nazis next and then he will really exact his revenge on the USA.
We better have a Bolton in office when that happens or kiss our Sovereignty goodbye for good.
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Posted by: Ummah Gummah at July 17, 2011 9:16 AM
And thats terrible, Berlet. (System needs an edit feature so there is no need for double posts. For some reason, latest posts stay hidden to me untill I make a post of my own.)
Posted by: TheDarkEricDraven at July 17, 2011 12:38 AM
Not if you refresh... but it's not surprising that you, a liberal tool, would not know something that simple and basic.
Double posts are caused by people hitting "post" twice. I think I did it once accidentally. There is a note here that says: "Click Post, pause a moment, then refresh the browser (F5) to see your comment posted."
I guess you & others missed that, though.
You have a warped understanding of communism. We can make it paradise on Earth. Technology can serve mankind if we all agree to cooperate and work together communally without plutocrats creating hardship and artificial scarcity.
Posted by: Ivan at July 17, 2011 5:50 AM
Funny, every country where communism became the dominant form wound up with hardship and artificial scarcity.
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It will be brought about through education of and direct action from the disaffected masses. The people, robbed by plutocrats to the brink of misery, will develop a class consciousness and rise up against their oppressive masters.
Posted by: Ivan at July 17, 2011 5:59 AM
In other words what you're saying is that, in your "perfect world", any time anyone sees someone that has something they want it's perfectly OK to just take it from them. You want to live in such a world then fine, please leave the U.S. and go to places where that's the way things are. Don't try and turn this contry into such a place.
Gunther, now posting as "Ivan", said:
"In a techno-communist system, the sharing of high technology means that robots and automation will do most of the work, freeing the people from the need to engage in most forms of labor."
Oh so you admit Obama and the unions are wrong when companies like Boeing and the auto companies try to build new, modern factories that have more automation and efficency and less union members and they try to stop it?
"Ivan" also said:
"If you are obsolete in a capitalist system then you will be liquidated. If you are obsolete in a techno-communist system then you are free to be served by the automation created and owned by the people."
See, that's funny he thinks that because the only time you see millions get murdered is when fascist/communist takeovers occur. When capitalism takes over standards of living go up and people survive and thrive. Except the ones who are content to sit in their parents' basements in their underwear raving at the world.
Here's an excellent answer to the nonsense of "Ivan"/Gunther:
Posted by: Archonix at July 17, 2011 6:15 AM
And although this is clearly someone posing as "Ivan", what he says pretty much matches the lunacy Ivan spouts:
Posted by: Ivan at July 17, 2011 6:27 AM
Really, you did a great job of parody here - on first read it's actually possible to believe "Ivan" actually posted that.
And this one was classic "Ivan", even though it clearly was another parody:
Posted by: Ivan at July 17, 2011 6:35 AM
"A socialist system can produce advance technology."
Says "Ivan". Yeah, that's why RED China and the USSR spent so much money stealing our technology.
And it's not "advance", Ivan, it's "advanced"...
"Ivan" also said, "You apologize for capitalism today..."
No. Wrong. Fail.
Nobody is "apologizing" for capitalism. We're just pointing out that it doesn't need us to defend it since it has shown itself to be far superior to ANY form of socialism/communism.
"Ivan", you've been challenged:
Ivan, please give an example of ANYPLACE on earth that communism has worked the way you claim. Beaurocrats in communist countries lived large off the backs of the proles, callously watching as them slowly starve. EPIC FAIL!
Posted by: Anonymous at July 17, 2011 6:35 AM
Well? Provide an example. We're waiting!
Posted by: Anonymous at July 17, 2011 9:19 AM
I was just reading the user comments off of Christian Science Monitor about Casey Anthony. Here's one that caught my eye. Carolina 40 was commenting on Casey while a follow comment from an obvious moonbat.
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---Carolina 40 minutes ago
Correction. Make that the most hated PERSON in America.
8 people liked this.
---JMark Sappenfield 3 minutes ago in reply to Carolina
To me that distinction goes to Sarah Palin or Michele Bachmann."""
Sick, sick, sick. It cannot be said enough, liberalism is a MENTAL DISORDER. Progs, liberals, socialist, whatever they are calling themselves know-a-days are the modern day scourge of the earth. In a 1000 years time people of the future won't be reading about locus or plagues, it'll will be about the destruction that Progs have caused.
Posted by: Anonymous at July 17, 2011 9:20 AM
No! I am Ivan!
Posted by: the real Ivan at July 17, 2011 9:26 AM
Ummah,
You're right. It seems that Obama is already running the show at the U.N., kind of behind the scenes. When they set September as the deadline for Israel to divide Jerusalem, they quoted Obama's 1967 borders speech and are using that as their template.
The scary thing is that there are many Muslim countries in the U.N. They are united in their goal of having a worldwide Caliphate. Most of the rest of the member countries have their own individual agendas and are not necessarily united. Since Obama is pro Muslim and has been touted by the Muslims as a possible candidate to be the leader of the Caliphate, the odds are pretty much against us.
Posted by: Jodie at July 17, 2011 9:26 AM
NO! I am Ivan!
Posted by: another real Ivan at July 17, 2011 9:27 AM
You guys CAN'T be Ivan because I AM IVAN!
Posted by: goonturd at July 17, 2011 9:28 AM
Isn't it telling that when asked to provide an example of communism that ACTUALLY equally distributes wealth and power, Ivan and grunter, avoid answering the question. The closest any of these individuals has come to providing an answer has been, and I'm paraphrasing, "socialism has yet to be perfected."
Posted by: Anonymous at July 17, 2011 9:29 AM
As "Henry" posted July 17, 2011 7:45 AM: indeed communism requires capitalism to survive
Posted by: Ummah Gummah at July 17, 2011 9:16 AM
I hope I'm wrong, but I do expect Obama to provoke a crisis once he loses in 2012. A crisis big enough that he thinks he can declare martial law and refuse to go through with the transition to the new overwhelmingly Republican government that will be elected in 2012.
Actually the plan seems to be to provoke the crisis BEFORE election day and to use it to prevent the election from even happening.
Posted by: Anonymous at July 17, 2011 9:30 AM
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If it were up to me the won would be summarily impeached, dropped off at the Gaza Strip and left to fend for himself.
After all, that is where most of his campaign contributions came from.
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Posted by: Ummah Gummah at July 17, 2011 9:30 AM
" The people, robbed by plutocrats to the brink of misery ..."
Yes... as one of 'the people', as I sit here in my comfortably air conditioned house while the outside temperature is 90+ watching my 55" wide screen TV showing one of over 200 satellite channels I feel robbed and cheated. I feel robbed of brain cells from reading the ignorant drivel of leftards and cheated out of way too many minutes of my life responding to it.
Posted by: chuck in st paul at July 17, 2011 9:34 AM
What is important is that we let all veterans and social security recipients know, and keep reminding them up until the election in 2012, that Obama's threat to hold back their checks, then blame it on Republicans, was a real one. This shows the danger of becoming too dependent on the government: When the government wants you to act a certain way all they do is let you know that if they don't get what they want you won't get anything, even if you are "entitled" to it. This was a pretty major slip on Obama's part as it clearly reveals the danger of becoming too dependent on government, on allowing socialism/communism to become too much a part of our daily lives.
Posted by: Anonymous at July 17, 2011 9:34 AM
This is what is driving me nuts about the Social Security debate. Starting January 1, the amount of Social Security tax withheld from employees' pay was lowered from 6.2% to 4.2% of their gross wages. The employers' rate stayed at 6.2%. This is the payroll tax break that Obama keeps bragging about.
It makes absolutely no sense to lower that rate and then say that we must cut Social Security benefits for retirees.
Our leaders are calling SS an "entitlement", which leads one to believe that is a benefit given to those who have not earned it. For some, that is true, but for most retirees, it is far from true. For example, if a person started paying SSI when they were 20 years old and worked until they were 65 years of age, at 6.2% and an annual salary of $20,000, they would have paid in $55,800.00. They have been guaranteed in writing that they would receive a certain amount of monthly income for life after they reach the age of 62. No one should have the right to take that away!
Posted by: Jodie at July 17, 2011 9:48 AM
It seems that Obama is already running the show at the U.N., kind of behind the scenes
Posted by: Jodie at July 17, 2011 9:26 AM
Maybe it's just because I see the UN as a bunch of quivering liberal wimps who bow to the worlds worst despots, and now hand them every seat in the joint no matter the hypocrisy, but I think the UN is just refering to Obama's "surrender Israel" speech to point out to Israel that they are in the lefts gunsights now, with no allies .
But they still need to turn the American people convincingly against Israel before any holocausts can reconvene.
It's after the next election, when the UN "resolutions" begin to be directed at us that things will get interesting.
See, the left is desperately forwarding the image that the UN is actually legitimate, and a force for good. This new improved "good" as defined by the left just happens to include Communism, tinpot dictatorships, and barbaric Islamic theocracies.
Posted by: Ghost of FA Hayek at July 17, 2011 9:52 AM
I wonder if they would have properly named social security the "you are too dumb to save for your own retirement so we politicians will steal it from you" act, if things would have been different.
Posted by: Ghost of FA Hayek at July 17, 2011 9:59 AM
Awesome good comments on social security there, Ghost of FA Hayek. Spot on.
Posted by: Not Ivan at July 17, 2011 10:06 AM
wonder if they would have properly named social security the "you are too dumb to save for your own retirement so we politicians will steal it from you" act, if things would have been different.
Posted by: Ghost of FA Hayek at July 17, 2011 9:59 AM
That's funny!
Posted by: Jodie at July 17, 2011 10:07 AM
Ivan. If communisim will work, people will vote for it. Honestly, it is a little annoying how much you go on about it. Now, whoever said Dave has ran news about Christian extremists, awesome. But surely you can see that they are no diffrent then Muslim extremists, and that normal Muslims are the same as normal Christians? I don't hate Christians or like Muslims. But your being a dick just to be a dick if you can't understand that not all Muslims read the Koran the same way. It is like blaming all Japanese people for Pearl Har-ohhhh, yeah, you did that too.
Posted by: TheDarkEricDraven at July 17, 2011 11:17 AM
Posted by: TheDarkEricDraven at July 17, 2011 11:17 AM
People must first understand their options and understand what it is. Not many people are educated about options outside Democrat/Republican. If advocates of a political philosophy do not educate others then how will others know that philosophy is an option?
Posted by: Ivan at July 17, 2011 11:20 AM
Ok, Ivan, are drugs legal in communist countries? If not, why? What is the communist party platform as it relates to LSD and Mushrooms?
Posted by: Dookiestain LaFlair at July 17, 2011 11:27 AM
People must first understand their options and understand what it is. Not many people are educated about options outside Democrat/Republican. If advocates of a political philosophy do not educate others then how will others know that philosophy is an option?
Posted by: Ivan at July 17, 2011 11:20 AM
Have you ever asked yourself why anyone would voluntarily give away their God-given liberty, so that they could be ruled over by ANYONE else? Do you really, all BS aside, WANT to be told what you can and cannot do, by someone else? And who would this wise person be? A simpleton like Obama, or should he be even smarter?
Don't you want YOUR individual liberty, and along with it, YOUR freedom, to do what YOU want with YOUR life?
Posted by: JoeS at July 17, 2011 11:41 AM
http://conservativeblogscentral.blogspot.com/2011/07/chicka-chicka-boom-boom-obama.html?m=0
CHICKA CHICKA BOOM BOOM OBAMA
Posted by: conservativeBC at July 19, 2011 4:28 AM
The technological means of production are already available to anyone who wants them. There free tools out the wazzoo ready for download, to make software, music, movies etc. to your hearts content.
There are even free websites and blogs to promote and sell your creations.
Go for it ye oppressed masses, the gates are open, the locks are broken, now get to work and build your own paradise.
Posted by: patrick kelly at July 19, 2011 7:28 AM
Does anybody know what's up with Dave? No new postings in Moonbattery for five days is extremely unusual. Is he on vacation?
Posted by: ent at July 21, 2011 2:53 PM
I see, the blog has morphed into a new version. And apparently the Google Reader feed was also replaced with a new one. You might want to mention this fact in a blog entry to the old feed, if you can, so that other Google Readers like me aren't left scratching their heads wondering what happened to their beloved moonbattery.
Posted by: ent at July 21, 2011 7:18 PM
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American women are generally immature, selfish, extremely arrogant and self-centered, mentally unstable, irresponsible, and highly unchaste. The behavior of most American women is utterly disgusting, to say the least.
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American women are generally immature, selfish, extremely arrogant and self-centered, mentally unstable, irresponsible, and highly unchaste. The behavior of most American women is utterly disgusting, to say the least.
This blog is my attempt to explain why I feel American women are inferior to foreign women (non-American women), and why American men should boycott American women, and date/marry only foreign (non-American) women.
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Posted by: John Rambo at July 21, 2011 11:55 PM
Does anybody know what's up with Dave? No new postings in Moonbattery for five days is extremely unusual. Is he on vacation?
Posted by: ent at July 21, 2011 2:53 PM
The State Re-education Forces have taken him to be "re-educated" to think more like Dear Leader and his minions.
Posted by: Son of Taz at July 23, 2011 4:05 AM
I've been posting away at www.moonbattery.com. There's been some trouble with the RSS feed though. The new URL for it is http://moonbattery.com/?feed=rss.
Posted by: Dave Blount at July 23, 2011 7:27 AM


