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Once again, they're just requoting the Jesuits. "Give me the child, and I care not who has the man."

And... what, you think Obama is going to take advantage of this by leading a popular revolt and seizing power? Your basis of comparison is laughable. He'll be out of power by time these kids reach voting age.

Anyway, just because you guys don't like Obama, that doesn't mean that these kids didn't decide on their own that they liked him and they wanted to sing songs to that effect. Kids make their own decisions, you know.

Related Article on Obama Worship....

Praying In the Name of Obama

....It is the deification of Obama that has many of us Americans scratching our collective heads in disbelief.

http://www.norcalblogs.com/post_scripts/2009/11/praying-in-the-name-of-ob.html

@ hey you guys....

You do justice to the Progressive Teachers' Union talking points. You go!

As for 'kids make their own decision, you know'. That is why I let my 6 year old boy drive the truck, drink my Jack Daniels and play with my loaded hand guns, because I always trust his kiddie decision........ Your an idiot!

Posted by: Oiao at November 7, 2009 10:09 AM

So, your child never makes any decisions for themselves about who they like and dislike? That's... really horrible parenting.

The not fully developed mind of a child bases decisions on the norms, morals and patterns set forth in their learning envionment at home, play or school.

Liberal Progressive Parents and Liberal Progressive Teachers are implanting a 'precieved expected positive behavior = decision'. Basically brainwashing. The kids are making decisions that they have been taught to make.

Your still and idiot!

@ hey you guys...

OK, If you can provide a reasonable person explanation of why we did not see school children singing praise to G.W. Bush, but we now see them singing to the 'god' Obama (compare and contrast with a good rationale), then I might think you are not an Idiot, but mearly a Progressive talking point spouter.

Oh, if you just use a Bush sucked analogy, then everyone who reads your response will KNOW you are an Idiot.

My anti-virus blocked a trojan off of the Big Hollywood link (right before my computer froze up)-

Be careful.

I'm incapable of understanding Progressives.

Nothing they do makes sense to me.

The land of the bizarre.

Observer effect. You weren't looking for example of this type of behavior to be scandalized about, that's why you didn't see it.

Also, even if you were looking, you might have missed it. The link cited 11 examples out of over ninety thousand schools. If similar activity happened for Bush in ~.01% of schools it might have been missed by the general public.

And... what, you think Obama is going to take advantage of this by leading a popular revolt and seizing power?

No, idiot. He's going to use these kids to keep power for his progressive buddies. The goal here is to create large numbers of eternal Democrat voters who will make sure the left never loses power again.

Your basis of comparison is laughable. He'll be out of power by time these kids reach voting age.

You really don't see what's going on, do you troll? It's much harder to change someone's mind than it is to convince them of something in the first place. Give these kids a few years of indoctrination about Obama and his friends, and many of them will never question what they've been taught. Years after Obama is out of office they'll support his policies and the policies of his successors with the kind of blind, unthinking loyalty that, well, YOU have.

Anyway, just because you guys don't like Obama, that doesn't mean that these kids didn't decide on their own

No, they didn't. Do you think these teachers and adults presented these kids with both sides of the issues? Do you think they were presented with criticisms of Obama or his policies? Do you think they were given a chance to sings songs of loyalty and love to John McCain (shudder)?

Of course not. So no, they didn't decide on their own.

that they liked him and they wanted to sing songs to that effect. Kids make their own decisions, you know.

Not always. I work with kids, and they can be very impressionable. I'm always careful not to discuss issues of politics or religion around them, because it's not my job to try to convince them of what they should believe. Unlike you, I actually believe children should be allowed to make up their minds, and the only way they can do that is if adults don't try to brainwash them. All sides need to be presented.

What is utterly sick is that you don't have a problem with what is going on.

Observer effect. You weren't looking for example of this type of behavior to be scandalized about, that's why you didn't see it.

These are the ones we know about. While in my work I've not seen any singing in praise of the Teleprompter Messiah (thankfully), I *have* seen classrooms festooned with Obama posters and pictures. I've never seen one decorated with McCain pictures. Do you imagine the kids are getting a balanced view from those teachers?

Also, even if you were looking, you might have missed it. The link cited 11 examples out of over ninety thousand schools. If similar activity happened for Bush in ~.01% of schools it might have been missed by the general public.

If it was happening in ~.01% of schools in favor of Bush, it would have been all over the press. And a loser like you would have been here screaming like a banshee about it.

@ hey you guys at November 7, 2009 11:27 AM

You are still firmly entrenched in the Idiot category.

If there had been one video of kids singing to the praise of G.W, it would have been on the MSM 24/7 and the Public School Teacher would have been drawn and quartered.

You fail. How about putting some actual thought into defending your argument, which is, indefensible.

"The goal here is to create large numbers of eternal Democrat voters..."

By singing a couple songs in school. Right.

"... many of them will never question what they've been taught."

Do YOU have the exact political views you did when you were in school? I sure don't.

Anyway, you guys were comparing Obama to Lenin and Hitler, two persons who had substantial cults of personality and desperately held on to power as long as they personally could. You want to change your analogy and claim generic leftist brainwashing, that's fine, but then it can't be about one particular person.

Why would anyone sing about John McCain? He's just another forgotten Presidential loser.

"I work with kids, and they can be very impressionable."

True; but I also work with kids, and they often have strong opinions that have nothing to do with what adults think. Unlike you, I actually think they can make up their own mind.

The first three examples were from high schools and middle schools. If you don't think teenagers have strong, independent political opinions then you're nuts.

@ hey you guys at November 7, 2009 11:58 AM

If you work with kids, I hope there has been at least a thorough background check on you. Not one of those quickie Pinkerton type of checks.

Now you are arguing with 'emotions', not 'facts'. You have ignored the elephant in the room concerning this discussion.

Yep, your a Progressive Idiot.

Poor, poor, HEY YOU GUYS.

No, we do NOT have the same views that we did when we were kids. That's because when many of us were that age, people who acted like the Obamist today would be card carrying COMMUNISTS.

You talk like these children went up to their teacher one day and asked if they coulf sing a song in praise of the TOKEN president. It's far more likely that it was the LIBERAL TEACHER who suggested it and even WROTE the song. Did you ever tell your teacher when you were young "no, I DON'T want to do that"? Fat chance that this was volintary, "volinteerism" is required to GRADUATE these days. If you think that totalitarian regimes don't indoctrinate children, you are an idiot. Under socialism EVERYTHING, including the lives of the people belong to the GOVERNMENT.

Your problem is that you think that dictatorships are born by violence and revolution; but some revolutions come without a shot being fired.

By singing a couple songs in school. Right.

(rolling eyes) No, idiot. This is a part of indoctrination, not the whole thing. That is what is known as a "strawman" argument... I never implied that this was the sum total of the brainwashing attempt.

Honestly, are you even TRYING?

Do YOU have the exact political views you did when you were in school? I sure don't.

And because you don't, that means no one does?

Many people do, in fact, never change their political views. That's the point. Get 'em while they're young. Teach them to think your way, vote your way. Some, of course, will fall away, but many will not. It's not about getting them all, just increasing your numbers.

Anyway, you guys were comparing Obama to Lenin and Hitler, two persons who had substantial cults of personality and desperately held on to power as long as they personally could.

Hmm... are you TRYING to make our arguments for us? I don't make comparisons with Hitler and Obama, personally. He's more like Mussolini. Obama has spent his entire adult life seeking power. As soon as he was elected to one office, he would set his eyes on the next higher, often waiting only a year or two before moving on. He's now in the highest office in the US, so there's really nowhere else to go. I think he's going to do EVERYTHING to keep power as long as he legally can.

He and his followers have encouraged an unquestioning personality cult. Insipid slogans, Stalinist propaganda posters, chants, and fawning media coverage, it's all designed to make people see him as something better than a typical politician. They don't want people thinking independently.

You want to change your analogy and claim generic leftist brainwashing, that's fine, but then it can't be about one particular person.

What other politician are children being taught to sing paeans to? I can't think of any.

Why would anyone sing about John McCain? He's just another forgotten Presidential loser.

What an amazingly stupid argument. WHY SHOULD ANYONE SING ABOUT BARACK OBAMA? Why, in this nation, should any politician be worthy of this? It's not the "who" that is the question, leftist drone. The question is "why."

True; but I also work with kids, and they often have strong opinions that have nothing to do with what adults think.

Again, the goal isn't to get all, it's to get some. They don't expect all these kids to become left-wing Obama cultists. They just want to get the ones who are vulnerable. The ones who don't have strong opinions and who listen to what their trusted authority figures think, or give in to peer pressure.

This is how cults operate. they don't want strong-willed people, they want sheep.

Unlike you, I actually think they can make up their own mind.

If you actually believed that, you'd be utterly disgusted by these videos. Are these children being presented with the information they need to make up their own mind? Do you believe that the adults encouraging this are presenting them with the opposing viewpoint? That these people are telling the children about the negative aspects of Obama? Or presenting positive info about his opponents?

Come on, tell me. In your naive view, these kids are supposed to make up their own minds, but how are they supposed to do that fairly? It takes knowledge and wisdom to make a correct decision, and these kids are being presented with half the information they need by adults who should know better.

The first three examples were from high schools and middle schools. If you don't think teenagers have strong, independent political opinions then you're nuts.

I know many teenagers. Some have strong, independent political opinions.

MANY DON'T. Many are apathetic, or ill-informed, or unsure. Many base their beliefs on pure emotion rather than reason (they're kids, after all). Many drift with the wind in their beliefs, changing seemingly at random. Some want to be told what to believe.

That's what these scumbags are counting on. Again, they don't want everyone, just the vulnerable.

Anyone who believes what you claim should be disgusted by these videos. You aren't, which shows that you're little different from these propagandists.

Holy God, for his own sake, somebody get HYG to a doctor!

You guys really need to move past this paranoia that Obama is "indoctrinating" our kids. You are taking the Fox conspiracy theory to a new level. When I was a child we celebrated Ford, Carter, and Reagan, was that indoctrination? Celebrating our Presidents has a long history in America, and Obama's Presidency has a more inclusive value to it. All you are doing is stoking more fear into the already delusional Obama haters...move on.

Ford and Regan = great leaders.

Carter = almost as bad as Obama (AABAO)

When I was a child we celebrated Ford, Carter, and Reagan, was that indoctrination?

I was a kid during the Ford, Carter, and Reagan administrations. We were taught to respect them, but we NEVER "celebrated" them. Not once did I ever have a teacher try to get me to sing songs in praise of a politician. No teacher I ever had put up political posters in their classrooms. In fact, I never knew the political views of the vast majority of them. That's the model I've followed in my career... even students I've worked with for years don't know my political views.

This is the United States of America. We're supposed to be distrustful and cynical about those we elect. We're supposed to teach our children to question them, their actions,and their motives. Our system can't work if we don't. And, as we've seen, it's not working anymore.

We love you, Obama
Oh, yes, we do
We love you, Obama
And we'll be true

When you're not near to us
We're blue
Oh, Obama, we love you
(Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah)

Posted by: Oiao at November 7, 2009 12:05 PM

Hmm. Its funny. Goatse of Wellstoned works with kids - or he claims he does - too.

Interesting, no?

PS

Maybe Goatse just meant he worked with a kid one time to get it killed in the womb of his accomplice in murder aka his browbeaten girlfriend?

SK, so tell us, is that your only argument? It is rather tired that you take such pride in defending unborn children, yet gleefully mock a couple that went through that terrible choice. It shows real class...BRAVO! It discredits your ambitions to deny a woman her right to privacy and choice. No single person I know is "pro-abortion" and those that have gone through it suffer to great lengths. Many folks reluctantly make the choice, and it is generally for the best given their circumstances. I take no pride in that decision, nor does my ex. So move on to your next cheap shot SK, this one is spent.

Ah, well-stoned goat, is that your only argument, pointing out that SK defends his own position? There are pro-abortion people out there, and thousands of them, but anyone who's seen enough of the world to know that is likely pro-life. And why did your ex leave you? Did he find out you were an irretrievable tard with no life? I take your previous trollings as a yes.

Posted by: Oiao at November 7, 2009 12:05 PM

You insinuate that I'm a criminal because we disagree politically and I'm the one being emotional?

Posted by: Anonymous at November 7, 2009 1:30 PM

What school did you go to back then. It was never like this when i was growing up in school. These kids only know one thing about Obama, his skin color. They know nothing of his policies nor were they taught this in civics class. Who ever supports this presidents does it no by achievement or accomplishment but by skin color and personality. There are no principles being applied with this president as well as no standards.

Typical African tribal behavior.

Posted by: FreeWillie at November 7, 2009 3:42 PM

Be careful Freewillie, dipshit libtards like Dino will flip that race card on you. I do agree with you, however.

@ hey you guys at November 7, 2009 3:35 PM

Why does requiring a background check to work around children bother you so much?

Dave, you and I generally have this argument. I have to make it quick though. My Leafs play Detroit tonight. While I agree, the students are not given a fair amount of info on Presidents, it applies to both sides. However, this overblown argument of "indoctrination" is a scare tactic, and is not working too well. You are fooling yourself to think that children are not taught to celebrate Presidencies. As a teen when we heard "tear down this wall", we were taught what that meant, and celebrated Reagan's accomplishment and zeal. While I happen to think the "singing" is a bit over the top, I think it is a good thing that students are paying attention, and being given some learning on our process in America. Of course minorities celebrate President Obama's skin color, achieving what he did is a good example for them in a country that has never had a black President. We wallow in mindless discussions, but many schools only teach the test, and civics is no longer a part of it, making this fun for the children is a way of implementing that course. Hope the pooches are good?

This cult worshiping of Obama in our public schools has to stop.
What kind of teacher would do this to children?
What kind of parent would permit their children to be subjected to this crap? I would be down at the school house door the next morning, waiting for it to open if this had happened to my child.
Our civilization is going to be in a worst state than the leftist's countries in Europe under socialistic domination if this crap does not stop.
Be careful here, or your kids that have been subjected to the NEA will grow up to be a group of little lefty jerkoffs, just like their teachers and their parents.

Ghost this is just plain mindless worship with a spattering of socialistic propaganda. Pretty cut and dry to me.

Chopper is well and weighing in at 102 pounds.

He is a piece of iron.

@Dave I don't give a crap what that little fagot dino thinks. That little bastard lives off my dime. So he can just shut his pie hole and take what I give him. The giant is awake now and the piss ants like dino have much to worry about.

I know willie, my sentiments exactly. Ya see willie if we were face to face with Dino he wouldn't have the guts to say what he says because he know that he would get the beat down and a violent one at that. We both know that loser Dino is just another run of the mill socialist pussy. You are right about these idiots having to much to worry about.

Posted by: hey you guys at November 7, 2009 11:58 AM- "Anyway, you guys were comparing Obama to Lenin and Hitler, two persons who had substantial cults of personality and desperately held on to power as long as they personally could."

Lenin was on top for 7 years. Hitler for 12. Considering that the socialists see Soetoro desperately hanging onto power for 8 years (at least), the comparison of cults is quite apt.

Posted by: hey you guys at November 7, 2009 11:58 AM- "You want to change your analogy and claim generic leftist brainwashing, that's fine, but then it can't be about one particular person."

Actually, it can. You either don't understand socialist propaganda techniques, or you are being disingenuous. I suspect it's the latter.

Posted by: hey you guys at November 7, 2009 11:58 AM- "Why would anyone sing about John McCain? He's just another forgotten Presidential loser."

Also, he is just a squishy Liberal RINO. He didn't have backing from the communist party. It is worth noting that this cult began well before the ACORNEVIK Oktober Revolution. The Unions had kiddies praising The Brilliant Comrade. For McCain? Not so much. It is not about the President. It is all about a socialist icon.

Posted by: hey you guys at November 7, 2009 11:58 AM- "True; but I also work with kids, and they often have strong opinions that have nothing to do with what adults think. Unlike you, I actually think they can make up their own mind."

Always hearing this excuse from leftists. That's why it's hunky dory to introduce screwing classes, homo seminars, eco-stalinism lectures. It's not "indoctrination". Apparently, kids won't be swayed and can "make up their own minds".

How about military history? Cadet training? Weapons handling? Drill? Why do the socialists get these yanked from schools?

Posted by: ghost of wellstone at November 7, 2009 3:11 PM

Apparently it is not spent and you are defending the indefensible with left wing talking points.

You murdered a child in the womb. A defenseless, innocent child you brought into the world while engaging in pre-marital sex to selfishly satisfy your base needs.

As to yet, you have shown absolutely no remorse for your crime. I am sure you feel real guilt about doing what you have done. Deep down.

Then again, you may just be another empty shell that has simply been filled up with the spiritus of Marxism and dehumanization of children and the unborn.

BTW, I think HYG and GoW are the same troll. One is a sock for the other.

This video makes me ill.

Posted by: Goatse O'Wellstoned at November 7, 2009 4:13 PM- "...Of course minorities celebrate... Obama's skin color"

Still standing up for ALL minorities, Goatse? Or just the communist party approved ones?

Ya know it would be different, chairman, if it where a white president and we where praising him.
Then we would be called racists.

Posted by: Evil Otto at November 7, 2009 1:25 PM

Or, you know, I'm coming a different conclusion then you. With the exception of the last example, this all seems quite harmless.

Your view of people as unthinking, passive drones is quite disturbing. I chide people for being idiots, but at least I grant that they are thinking about things. If people are as you present them, then any form of democracy is pointless because most people would just vote as they were told to.

Really, is this your view of people? They're helpless so you have to be sure you get to them first with the right message? You're just upset because the bad leftists are pre-empting you in branding their mark?

What a depressing thought.

So, THIS is the "change" part, huh?

Now that Obama izzz duh Man we don't have to sit our asses down in the seats, open our books, read and write, and figure math.

We jist git to sing and dance all day long.

He's put them back out in the fields. They will be slaves to the Nanny State, and sing and dance while standing in lines waiting for every last thing they need ... in rationed amounts.

The new "Negro Spirituals" is what we're seeing here, folks. F*cking pathetic.

Yeah, I said it.

Can you say, "Pooloo See Bagoomba"?

Or, you know, I'm coming a different conclusion then you.

Clearly, you don't even know what my conclusion is.

With the exception of the last example, this all seems quite harmless.

I know you think it's harmless... mainly because these kids are being spoon-fed propaganda that you agree with. It's not harmless. Adults have a duty to make sure children get the opportunity to get all sides of an argument. They need to make sure that they aren't trying to abuse the power they have. Logic and reasoning don't come naturally, they must be trained.

Is that what is going on in these videos? Are these kids being trained to think and question? Tell me. Come on, reassure me that these people are doing their job and making sure kids are able to think and analyze and question.

Your view of people as unthinking, passive drones is quite disturbing.

I'm actually trying to prevent the creation of unthinking, passive drones.

It's funny... you claim that you're against the creation of "unthinking, passive drones," but you support activities that help create them.

I chide people for being idiots, but at least I grant that they are thinking about things.

Not everyone is. Many people are unquestioning, passive consumers of information. They believe what they are told, especially if the person claims authority.

The goal of these people is to mold children into that very sort of person. And you're cool with it.

If people are as you present them, then any form of democracy is pointless because most people would just vote as they were told to.

First, this isn't a democracy. Come on, read a frikkin' civics book. Second, what part of some people do you not understand?

I mean, Jeebus, I spell out exactly what my point is, and you completely ignore it. Typical leftist, you see only what you want to see.

I'll try AGAIN. I have the feeling I'm wasting my time with you, that no matter what I write you'll continue your brave fight against strawmen.

SOME PEOPLE are not free and independent thinkers. SOME PEOPLE believe what they're told. SOME PEOPLE.

Get it?!? Do I have to use smaller words?

Those are the people those scumbags prey on. They know not everyone will turn into the unthinking party-line Democrats they want. They know that SOME. PEOPLE. WILL. And so they try to get them early. Convince them when they're young, and you have a better chance of keeping them when they're older.

Sheesh, you're dense.

Really, is this your view of people?

Just certain people. It is rapidly becoming my view of you.

They're helpless so you have to be sure you get to them first with the right message?

I swear, you have a reading disability. Go back and read what I wrote. Get back to me when you understand English.

You're just upset because the bad leftists are pre-empting you in branding their mark?

Wow, swing and a miss. You're not even in the same time zone as what I believe.

What a depressing thought.

Cut the crap. Seriously. Go back and read what I wrote, and come back here when you can argue against what I actually said, and not your strawman version of it.

By the way, HYG, since you were too busy bravely fighting those straw men to actually respond to what I wrote, I'll help you out:

Are these children being presented with the information they need to make up their own mind? Do you believe that the adults encouraging this are presenting them with the opposing viewpoint? That these people are telling the children about the negative aspects of Obama? Or presenting positive info about his opponents?

You didn't answer any of my questions. You could try that... but we both know the truth. You and I both know that these kids aren't being told about opposing viewpoints or candidates. And that's the reason you go for the straw man fallacy: misrepresent the opponent's argument, then attack that.

Come on, tell me. In your naive view, these kids are supposed to make up their own minds, but how are they supposed to do that fairly? It takes knowledge and wisdom to make a correct decision, and these kids are being presented with half the information they need by adults who should know better.

And somehow you've interpreted this as me saying that I'm upset my side didn't do this.

Maybe in your bizzaro world view, that's the case, but here in the real world you just lost the argument.

Now, care to try again?

Hey You Guys, need I remind you of this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSwgerG34s0

This is what happens with liberal indoctrination. Listen to the teacher when a student says they want McCain to win the election.

This is also happening in colleges as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDhYEMpv7Ng

Evil Otto, I understand your point, and I disagree with you. We're making different base assumptions. You assume that evil, manipulative adults are forcing children to do things. I assume that children want to do things and adults are allowing them to do so.

The children are getting plenty of positive and negative information from different sources, and making their own decisions. Your assumption of limited information flow is false and I reject it. Therefore I cannot answer the questions you pose, as they are based on a false initial premise. They don't need adults feeding them alternate information, and they don't have adults blinding them with limited information. False premises. Get it?

Ok, fine "some people" are programmable drones according to you. What's to be done with these people? Bar them from voting? Make sure they never get political information? Make sure you reach them first with your ideas? (Your false view of what's happening here.) I can tell you I try to make sure every one of my kids has an inquisitive mind and is able to skeptically evaluate their own ideas. What's your solution?

Evil Otto, I understand your point, and I disagree with you. We're making different base assumptions.

Apparently so. I'm much more cynical about human nature than you, I guess. Comes from experience.

You assume that evil, manipulative adults are forcing children to do things.

No, that's NOT what I'm assuming.

I assume that children want to do things and adults are allowing them to do so.

No, there's a third, and most likely possibility. These manipulative adults are convincing children to do this by not giving them all the information they need. Forcing the kids would be counterproductive, breeding resentment. Telling children how wonderful Barack Obama is, making it seem like he cares about them, that his policies are going to lead to a new world, and making sure to never tell them the flaws in Obama or his policies, or the positive aspects of his opponents, that is the recipe for creating sheep.

The children are getting plenty of positive and negative information from different sources, and making their own decisions.

Really? How do you know this? Do you have some information source that the rest of us don't? Which "different sources" are they getting?

The fact is, YOU DON'T KNOW. You're merely assuming that's the case, desperately hoping it is. I, on the other hand, know the way fanatics think... they make no attempt to ensure their potential recruits are thinking, make no attempt to present a balanced viewpoint. It is counterproductive to their goals. They don't want people making their own decisions.

Your assumption of limited information flow is false and I reject it.

You can reject it all you like. It's the way these things work, whether you like it or not. WHERE are these kids getting this supposed information? Do you think these adults are telling these kids to listen to Rush Limbaugh or read the Wall Street Journal? Do you think they're playing Sarah Palin speeches to their charges? C'mon, help me out here. Be specific.

Therefore I cannot answer the questions you pose, as they are based on a false initial premise.

Nice dodge. Like I said, we both know the truth. You just can't admit it. You've painted yourself into a corner.

They don't need adults feeding them alternate information, and they don't have adults blinding them with limited information. False premises. Get it?

They're NOT false premises. They're just uncomfortable premises for you.

Ok, fine "some people" are programmable drones according to you.

I'm incorrect in that assumption? I used to do volunteer work years ago with a cult recovery group, after losing my best friend to a cult. I'VE SEEN IT. I've tried to reason with people who had a mental barrier around their beliefs so strong that they couldn't admit that the so-called church that had taken all their money, cost them their jobs, and reduced them to living in squalor didn't have their best interests at heart. Often, nothing I said mattered to them.

I've attended cult meetings, pretending to be a potential recruit. And many of them used fun activities, singing and chanting as tools to ensnare. Now, what these adults are doing isn't as bad as the cult leaders, don't misunderstand (or use that in another one or your patented straw man arguments). But the methods are the same... convince people to believe, to turn off the rational and logical part of the mind.

YES, some people are programmable drones. It's not necessarily their fault, but it is a fact of life. And just as there are programmable drones out there, there are people who feed off them, manipulate them, and try to create them.

The adults encouraging this sort of thing are trying to create life-long Democrats rather than life-long thinking individuals who might decide to be Democrats.

What's to be done with these people? Bar them from voting?

Hoo, boy, here we go again. What in this argument involves deciding whether or not people can vote? Stick to the subject.

Make sure they never get political information?

What? That doesn't even make sense.

Make sure you reach them first with your ideas? (Your false view of what's happening here.)

It's not about "reaching them with my ideas." Ideally, the adults in these kids lives should be teaching them the tools they need to be responsible American citizens. First, and foremost, that is a healthy distrust of politicians. Teach them to question. Educate children in history, civics, literature, and economics. I think right now, the last is most important, given what's going on in Washington. And I would fire any teacher I caught doing this sort of thing, on the spot, as I would any teacher plastering their rooms with political posters.

I can tell you I try to make sure every one of my kids has an inquisitive mind and is able to skeptically evaluate their own ideas.

And because you supposedly do this, you assume everyone does?

Honestly, how naive are you?

What's your solution?

I've already spelled out my "solution." It won't happen, of course, because too many people have a vested interest in continuing this sort of thing, and others (you) are enablers, making excuses.

Looks like the top video has now also been removed from YouTube. Turn on the lights and all the little cockroaches skittle away!

I guess they're just not that proud of their happy-happy joy-joy leader.