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November 9, 2009

The Wall, the Fall, and the Enablers of Communism

Posted by The MaryHunter at November 9, 2009 12:59 PM

The truism of communism's supreme failure as a politico-economic system has reared its head again as we celebrate the 20th anniversary of the fall of the Berlin Wall today. Our Dear Leader Obama's visage has apparently been beamed to Brandenburg Gate, most likely praising Gorbachev and denying Reagan, and those who died trying to defy The Wall, as the true heroes of this remembrance.

Right now I'm looking at a chunk of The Wall that my wife retrieved during a visit to Berlin in mid-1990. There was still much confusion even then - tour guides and public officials stood agape, answerless, as events continued to unfold. The hunk of concrete she retrieved has a bit of blue and red graffiti on part of it, perhaps an element of some freedom-praising art, its wish finally realized through its own destruction.

I'm wondering if any of the apologists and enablers of communism have actually ever held a piece of The Wall in their hands, felt the heavy and insidious oppression it represents.

I'm guessing, not. Or, if they have, I doubt that they could feel the blood and bone and brutality within it.

Cal Thomas recently dusted up a number of said popular-culture and MSM nimrods:

When the wall fell, leftists could not bring themselves to admit they had been wrong, much less apologize for their misplaced faith. So they did what they do best: They made excuses.

Thomas lists some examples collected by the Media Research Center of how "the pre-Fox, pre-talk-radio liberal media were the handmaidens of one of the greatest totalitarian evils to strike the planet."

In 1987, before the wall collapsed, CBS anchor Dan Rather said, "Despite what many Americans think, most Soviets do not yearn for capitalism or Western-style democracy."
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Strobe Talbott, then of Time magazine and soon to be an influential member of the Clinton administration, wrote on Jan. 1, 1990, "[Soviet leader] Gorbachev is helping the West by showing that the Soviet threat isn't what it used to be, and what's more, that it never was." How is it possible to simultaneously have been a threat, but not a threat? The millions who died in gulags, starved to death or were assassinated might have a different interpretation of Russian history under communism.
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Ted Turner, the former CNN mogul, is always good for an outlandish quote, and when it came to Soviet Russia, he offered a cornucopia of self-deluded statements, none better than this one: "[Mr. Gorbachev is] moving faster than Jesus Christ did." But Time magazine bested him with this howler when it described Mr. Gorbachev as both "the communist pope and the Soviet Martin Luther."
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Highly recommended reading this day: Better Off Red? Twenty Years After the Fall of the Berlin Wall, Recalling the Liberal Media's Blindness to the Evils of Communism.



Comments

Thanks for providing yet another example of the lunatic-fringe being unclear on the difference between soviet-style communism and what is actually happening in the real-world America of 2009. Good stuff.

If you really think improving healthcare and bailing out the auto industry equates to cold-war-era communism... well, you're exactly as stupid as I give you credit for.

Posted by: stupidity should be painful. at November 9, 2009 1:19 PM


If you really think improving healthcare and bailing out the auto industry equates to cold-war-era communism... well, you're exactly as stupid as I give you credit for.

So, when leaders who have praised Marxism and openly advanced Marxist principles begin the first step towards Marxism, we are not supposed to show concern?

It is said that a journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.

Our leaders are gearing up for some real marathon distance running. I plan to object before they cross the finish line.

Posted by: Anonymous Countermoonbat at November 9, 2009 1:30 PM


"So, when leaders who have praised Marxism and openly advanced Marxist principles begin the first step towards Marxism, we are not supposed to show concern?"

You are supposed to be bright enough to recognize the difference, understand that the black-and-white mentality is insufficient, and actually think about the nuances involved before the screaming knee-jerk anger that apprears more and more to be the crazy people's default setting.

(As long as I'm dreaming, I'd really like a Ferrari... )

Posted by: Anonymous at November 9, 2009 1:37 PM


Israel proposes work camps for illegal migrants

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1126057.html

Posted by: Anonymous at November 9, 2009 1:42 PM


Posted by: stupidity should be painful. at November 9, 2009 1:19 PM

Um, are you a troll, or what. Simply don't understand your point. I didnt see autos or Obamacare mentioned in this thread as related to soviet commie-ism. Perhaps you did.

Posted by: coo coo ca choob at November 9, 2009 1:54 PM


"in this post" i meant, not thread

Posted by: coo coo ca choob at November 9, 2009 1:58 PM


Congratulations, MaryHunter, on an insightful, well constructed though necessarily short piece.

The ridiculous attempt by Stupidity and Anonymous to tie in a comment on the evil that Communism is, and how its apologists are still with us, with health care and bailouts will die in derision.

Posted by: Jim at November 9, 2009 2:01 PM


That's interesting how, just twenty minutes after this topic was posted, a troll shows up to completely misrepresent what the topic of this thread is about.

The topic of the thread is about how the media of the cold war era white-washed and enabled communism. Within minutes of this being posted a troll posts a post that goes way off tangent as if the entire purpose of it's post was to do just that - to throw attention way off tangent.

Sometimes I really have to wonder how many of our trolls are just confused citizens and how many are working for leftwing organizations and doing Party work on the internet.

Posted by: Kevin R. at November 9, 2009 2:04 PM


From today's Wall Street Journal we read:

No one should forget that 90 miles off the coast of Florida, communist tyranny lives on as if Berlin were still divided and the Soviets were still ruling Eastern Europe. The Castro brothers served up a nasty reminder last week when they detained internationally famous Cuban blogger Yoani Sánchez on her way to a peaceful "performance" march organized by musicians in Havana.

On Friday Ms. Sánchez told a telephone interviewer from Miami's El Nuevo Herald that she had been walking to the gathering with a fellow blogger when a car approached and three men insisted that she and her companion get in. When they resisted, she said they were "dragged toward the car" and "thrown head-first inside." Then the beatings began. "They applied judo or karate holds to us. The punches . . . kept raining down," she told El Nuevo Herald. "No blood, but black and blues, punches, pulled hairs, blows to the head, kidneys, knee and chest." Twenty minutes later she was dumped on the street far from the gathering.

Ms. Sánchez writes a blog about life for ordinary Cubans. Her posts say what so many others are frightened to acknowledge openly -- that daily tasks, from providing food for the family to getting from point A to point B, are monumental undertakings 50 years after the "revolution" that was supposed to produce a Cuban utopia. Nothing works, everyone steals to survive and shortages are rampant. Soap is a luxury.

Ms. Sánchez is a threat because she has helped to erode the silence and fear factor necessary to the regime's survival. She's also a threat because she has embarrassed Fidel Castro with her growing fame around the globe. In 2008, she won Columbia University's prestigious Maria Moors Cabot prize and The El Pais Ortega y Gasset Prize for Digital Journalism. Time magazine named her one of the world's 100 most influential people last year.

Of course the message that Ms. Sánchez received wasn't meant only for her. An estimated 200 young Cubans gathered for last week's peaceful musicians' demonstration. According to the Cuban blog "Penultimate Days," it was the second such gathering in three weeks. Tyranny may survive in Cuba, but so does the urge for freedom.

-- Mary Anastasia O'Grady

Most American Liberals no doubt approve of the Castro tactics of 'beating' those who may have a difference of opinion.

Posted by: Old Jimbo at November 9, 2009 2:09 PM


The Young President, in his video remarks at the Wall, referenced "tyranny."

I've been thinking a lot about tyranny lately.

With no little trepidation.

Posted by: MoogieP at November 9, 2009 2:15 PM


I told you to read American Alone but you havent done it have you? Who do you think told VH about Ralph Peters and FOX news? Wake up kid

Posted by: Anonymous at November 9, 2009 2:26 PM


If you are not talking about the miniscule societal changes in 2009 America away from absolute chaos-capitalism... then what the hell are you talking about? If you aren't thinking about GM and healthcare, then do go ahead and let us know what the hell you tuink you are talking about. Because it is not at all clear..

Clearly this was posted with a purpose, and that purpose was to remind your readers to "BE VERY AFRAID"... if you were not trying to make a stupid point about America turning into cold-war-era communism, then there is literally no point at all.

So, far from changing the subject, I think I hit a nerve very directly by addressing exactly what you were appempting to discuss... and I succinctly reminded you that if that really was your point, you are a moron.

Point for the good guys!

Posted by: Anonymous at November 9, 2009 2:29 PM


This is a great post by The MaryHunter.

It a significant reminder that out of the human misery of communism and liberal stupidity, stepped Ronald Reagan.

Posted by: Fiberal at November 9, 2009 3:04 PM


Hate to say it, but Dan Rather was right. Many people in Russia do prefer the top down autocratic control of a strong leader exhibited by communism. Just look at how popular the current Russian dictator is with the people.

Posted by: hey you guys at November 9, 2009 3:06 PM


If you are not talking about the miniscule societal changes in 2009 America away from absolute chaos-capitalism...

Moonbats don't even have a grasp of very recent history.


Posted by: Kevin R. at November 9, 2009 3:07 PM


If you are not talking about the miniscule societal changes in 2009 America away from absolute chaos-capitalism... then what the hell are you talking about? If you aren't thinking about GM and healthcare, then do go ahead and let us know what the hell you tuink you are talking about. Because it is not at all clear..

If those are minuscule changes, then why are they worthy of the attention of the Federal government? Why are we committing trillions of dollars expropriated from working taxpayers to bail out failed banks, failed automakers, illegal aliens, and the health of every obese smoker or idiot who prioritizes cable TV ahead of buying insurance?

If those changes are minuscule, then how many tens of trillions must be flushed down the bottomless toilet of Marxism before it gets your attention?

Posted by: Anonymous Countermoonbat at November 9, 2009 3:23 PM


You are supposed to be bright enough to recognize the difference, understand that the black-and-white mentality is insufficient, and actually think about the nuances involved before the screaming knee-jerk anger that apprears more and more to be the crazy people's default setting.

If it seizes power like a Marxist, redistributes private property like a Marxist, cultivates a cult of personality and abandonment of reason like a Marxist, and envisions a broadly inclusive statist future like a Marxist, then it is probably a Marxist.

Posted by: Anonymous Countermoonbat at November 9, 2009 3:26 PM


Sadly, we have only ourselves to blame for letting America become what it has become.

When Madeline Murray O'Hair successfully removed all traces of God from public classrooms almost 50 years ago, we Christians stood by and let her do it, thinking that it was not our duty to get involved.

We let political correctness and the scam of global warming take root in the public schools, then wondered why kids graduated after 12 years not knowing how to read, write, or find America on a map.

We let non-citizens invade this land and take over, pander to their language and customs, and support them cradle to grave.

Meanwhile, we over-tax and over-regulate our employers and productive citizens, to the point that it is cheaper and easier to pull up stakes and do business in other countries.

Today, those of us majority patriots who are right-leaning but not that politically active STILL support mainstream "news" and "entertainment" media, "because I grew up with Cronkite/Rather/etc."

If we had run these Leftists and Atheists out on a rail 50 years ago, we would not be dealing with them now. Or at least not be standing by helplessly as they destroy what the Founders created over 200 years ago.

Keep up the pressure, my fellow Patriots! There is strength in numbers and We Surround Them.

Posted by: Nunya at November 9, 2009 3:44 PM


My fellow Americans, watch this. Watch this, and appreciate how far we've sunk, and how much work we have to do.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at November 9, 2009 3:47 PM


Thanks for that, Jay.
Its a good remembrance of how single-minded and effective RR was against communism.

To paraphrase the great man:
A liberal is someone who has read Marx. A conservative is someone who has read Marx and understands him.

Posted by: Fiberal at November 9, 2009 3:56 PM


Thanks, Fiberal. Watching Ronaldus Maximus in action makes clear our present Chief Executive is a sewer trout.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at November 9, 2009 4:14 PM


You're a Gentleman and a Patriot, Jay. Posted his Ronaldus Magnus-ness here.

Posted by: The MaryHunter at November 9, 2009 5:20 PM


Posted by: Old Jimbo at November 9, 2009 2:09 PM

The tactics of those Cuban commie bastards seem mighty close to hardball Chicago-style Democrap politics.

Posted by: pomalom at November 9, 2009 5:25 PM


Thanks, TMH. I appreciate that.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at November 9, 2009 5:37 PM


Hi, I'm a Liberal troll, despite today being an anniversary of the beginning of the fall of Communism - the fall of the Berlin wall, my masters at DailyKos said I should go to Conservatist sites and stir stuff up about healthcare.

A thread on the anniversary of the Berlin wall, entitled "The Wall, The Fall, and the Enablers of Communism" why that's really those right wingers scaring people with healthcare isn't it? OOGA BOOGA

Posted by: Liberal Troll at November 9, 2009 5:41 PM


Hope anonydope gets the Ferrari. The crash will be spectacular, even though it would be a waste of a good car. Shouldn't dopes like you be driving hybrids anyway?

Posted by: herman at November 9, 2009 6:01 PM


"MSM nimrods"???

Nimrod (Noun) Pronunciation: [‘nim-rahd]

Definition: A great hunter, someone with a passion for hunting.

Usage: Today’s word is often misused in the US to mean "stupid" or "foolish" as a result of a wide-spread misunderstanding of the cartoon character, Bugs Bunny, who often mocks his nemesis, Elmer Fudd, with "poor little Nimrod" when the latter is hunting him. (

Etymology: Nimrod, a mighty hunter of the Old Testament, king of Shinar and, possibly, of Babel, and the great-grandson of Noah. According to Genesis 10: "8 And Cush begat Nimrod: he began to be a mighty one in the earth. 9 He was a mighty hunter before the Lord: wherefore it is said, Even as Nimrod the mighty hunter before the Lord."

Posted by: Kashika at November 9, 2009 6:02 PM


Posted by: my stupidity should be painful. at November 9, 2009 1:19 PM- "Thanks for providing yet another example of the lunatic-fringe being unclear on the difference between soviet-style communism and what is actually happening in the real-world America of 2009."


So, you're saying that, "real-world", America of 2009 communism, is nothing like Soviet communism? Indeed, there is a difference between soviet-style, Russian communism, and Soetoro-style, African communism. In the end, one style kills you with Tokarev pistols, or Siberian gulags. The other with machetes, or ghetto necklaces.

Posted by: my stupidity should be painful. at November 9, 2009 1:19 PM- "If you really think improving healthcare and bailing out the auto industry equates to cold-war-era communism..."


No, more "is equivalent to", than "equates to". The problem with most communist neophytes, is that you fail to grasp the nature of your disease. Marxists of all stripes believe that socialismis like a box of chocolates. You can enjoy hard, soft, or moderate democratic. That the catastrophes of the past (that which you will actually concede, which isn't much), were merely from Marxism being misapplied, or "perverted". Since Trotsky remains a major influence on modern progressives, this is the liberal gospel. All that marxism needs, is to be applied "properly", the "right leadership" (not backsliding, reactionary opportunists) IE- a "Messiah"....... like Obongo. THIS time, it will ALL be different. Especially if YT don't be making it all whack, an' beez rayciss an' sheet. Progressives think that, a "people's carriage" will eventually pull into Utopia, if enough trains depart. Trouble is, there is no station at "Utopia". It doesn't matter whether one catches the Marxist Express, or the Progressive all-stops. It doesn't matter if it is via the Socialist Line, or the Liberal Line. The destination is always the same- Communist Central. All passengers must disembark. No refunds. The only difference is the speed of the trip, and the scenery along the way.

Posted by: chairman soetoro's oprichniki at November 9, 2009 8:27 PM


The little known truth was he accidentally shot an arrow at his friend with whom he was hunting when was old and struck him. The friend said "You stupid Nimrod!!!"

Posted by: Anonymous at November 9, 2009 8:28 PM


Hate to say it, but Dan Rather was right. Many people in Russia do prefer the top down autocratic control of a strong leader exhibited by communism.

Posted by: hey you guys at November 9, 2009 3:06 PM

HYG - I certainly can't argue with that! No one can!

But "many people" also enjoy child porn. "Many people" are gang members selling drugs and murdering innocents. "Many people" are certain you are a dipshit. "Many people" drank the Kool-Aid at Jone's Town. "Many people" would strap on a bomb and commit suicide/murder to kill a bunch of teenagers on an Israeli bus.

Maybe you should clarify which of the "many Peoples'" side you're on.

Posted by: Old Jimbo at November 9, 2009 11:32 PM


Germans tend to not like Republicans. What the hell do you care what happened to them 20 years ago. Quite using Germany and the German people to further your Palin/Bush/Limbaugh/Beck agenda. Note: Reagan didn't write that speech. He only read it.

Posted by: paget at November 9, 2009 11:50 PM


In 1987, before the wall collapsed, CBS anchor Dan Rather said, "Despite what many Americans think, most Soviets do not yearn for capitalism or Western-style democracy."

Technically true, if by "Soviets" you mean government officials, Red Army commanders, and Communist party leaders.

If Rather simply means Russian civilians, on the other hand, he's dead wrong. Communism SUCKS for everyone who isn't at or near the top. I can imagine that the puppet dictators in countries like Bulgaria and Poland probably had a pretty cushy job. All they have to do is wait for their daily phone call from the Kremlin and collect a paycheck. You can bet your morning coffee they weren't in any hurry to see capitalism sweeping across Europe.

Everyone who actually had to live under the Soviets' boot heel? A different story.

Posted by: Cylar at November 10, 2009 2:15 AM


You are supposed to be bright enough to recognize the difference, understand that the black-and-white mentality is insufficient, and actually think about the nuances involved before the screaming knee-jerk anger that apprears more and more to be the crazy people's default setting.

Ah yes, that cherished liberal "nuance." Riiiight.

News flash - some things ARE black and white. Command economies are a dead-end street. Any questions?

Posted by: Cylar at November 10, 2009 2:18 AM


If you are not talking about the miniscule societal changes in 2009 America away from absolute chaos-capitalism... then what the hell are you talking about?

Trying to take over 1/6th of our nation's economy in the name of "compassion for the uninsured" is miniscule

Geez man, does even cannabis make a person this delusional?

Posted by: Cylar at November 10, 2009 2:21 AM


(As long as I'm dreaming, I'd really like a Ferrari... )

As long as I am dreaming, I'd like to see the Left pull its head of its collective ass, wake up to what is really going on under the Obama Administration, learn the lessons of history, correct its fundamentally misguided understanding of human nature, and quit trying to drive the country over a cliff with its utopian fantasies and hamhanded crusades to remake our society.

Posted by: Cylar at November 10, 2009 2:25 AM


Hate to say it, but Dan Rather was right.

Hate to say it, but you're an annoying pest. Just kidding. Actually, I enjoy saying it.


Many people in Russia do prefer the top down autocratic control of a strong leader exhibited by communism.

Yeah, I'm sure they do. What they are fed-up with isn't freedom, it's the corruption in the Russian government, the organized crime, the drug use, and so and and so forth that's taken over their country. They also miss the old days when their nation was feared and respected. Today it's little more than a laughingstock.

Russia has never been a free country. Before the USSR existed, it was ruled by czars who were almost as repressive and murderous as the Bolshevik regime which followed. You think they overthrew Nicholas II and put Lenin's goons in power because they weren't being repressed hard enough by the czar...or because they were trying to get the czar's boot off their necks and were naive enough to believe all of Lenin's utopian bullshit?

It's rather telling that the Nazis were actually welcomed (at first) when the Panzer divisions rolled into Lithuania and Ukraine in 1941.

The point is that the Russian people have no authentic experience with capitalism, democracy, or anything else associated with freedom. Instead, they've had this half-assed attempt at it which rose from the ashes of the USSR. Their government has been unable to take it all the way because of so many elements within it which pine for the old days. Of course all the people see is the bad.

It's interesting that none of the USSR's former satellite states (except maybe Belarus) seem to sit around pining for the good old days. Wonder why.


Just look at how popular the current Russian dictator is with the people.
Posted by: hey you guys at November 9, 2009 3:06 PM

Then why has Putin felt the need to hand-pick his successor, close down opposition newspapers and TV stations, and openly pine for an era when dissidents were thrown in gulags? If he's so "popular" with ordinary Russians, then he shouldn't be afraid of free speech.

Seriously man, go play somewhere else.

Posted by: hey you guys at November 9, 2009 3:06 PM

Posted by: Cylar at November 10, 2009 2:37 AM


I thought I told you what to read? But you still havent done it.I know Mark Steyn is scary better ignore that Islamic threat. However you do so at your own peril

Posted by: Anonymous at November 10, 2009 6:14 AM


Germans tend to not like Republicans.

Say it isn't so. We're crushed not to be liked by the greatest mass murderers of the millennium. Germans like socialists. Preferably ones using socialism to advance their national interests. Call 'em...gee...I dunno, how 'bout "National Socialists?"

Note: Reagan didn't write that speech. He only read it.

Of course. No politicians write their own speeches. None. Not even the Messiah, who like all politicians has a speechwriting team (Google "Jon Favreau"). The point is what the politician chooses to say. Try to keep up, OK?

Furthermore, Reagan could speak extemporaneously and make sense, because he knew what he believed. The Messiah, off the teleprompter, speaks complete gibberish. Let me know if you'd like some YouTube links to prove my point. But as you're apparently German, let me leave you with this thought: Obama thought his uncle was involved in liberating Auschwitz (his uncle was in the US Army, not the Red Army). How much geography/history do you have to know to realize that that was nonsense?

Posted by: Jay Guevara at November 10, 2009 2:39 PM


After the USSR fell, the Russians and eastern europeans were pillaged and looted by a number of western "capitalist" jews. It's taken them 20 years to get back to their feet.

Posted by: Anonymous at November 10, 2009 3:34 PM


Oh no the Joo000O00oo000Oooo00000oo's !!! stealin the wealth along with the giant space lizards since 4 B.C

Posted by: xantl at November 10, 2009 4:24 PM


The inventors and leaders of communism were indeed primarily jewish, just like the ones pushing it today. People really do need to stop with the kneejerk reactions to protect "jews" and spend some actual time doing research on Zionism and not be afraid to name the jew when appropriate. Those we call jews today are primarily a white slavic tribe of people anyway with only the tiniest bit of "semite" in them. The true semites are the arabs, the "jews" are just white people, and it's OK TO BE PISSED AT WHITE PEOPLE. Apparently.

Posted by: Itstrue at November 10, 2009 9:03 PM


Tell us how Kennedy was really killed by scaly grey aliens that live in a warp bubble in Bohemian Grove, that only come out when Bush or Rockefeller sacrifices a baby on top of the skull of Geronimo while sipping from the holy grail?


Posted by: xantl at November 10, 2009 11:30 PM


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