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November 7, 2009

The Religion of Peace and Tolerance Meets the Ft. Hood Terrorist Massacre

Posted by The MaryHunter at November 7, 2009 5:25 PM

What can one say about this video?

Hat tip: FlagThisMuzzles3

On a tip from Moonbat Skullcracker.


peace. tolerance. yearight.

and we all know what the msm would have done if it had been a christian fundamentalist who had committed this horrible act.

Posted by: coo coo ca choob at November 7, 2009 5:41 PM

Muslim ass wipe. I'll show you ass holes tolerance.

Posted by: Dave at November 7, 2009 5:44 PM

being a brain dead treasonous prick falls under freedom of speech too I guess. With assholes like this running loose, why are they hassling Warren Jeffs?

Posted by: grayjohn at November 7, 2009 5:48 PM

Yeah, it is freedom of speech. But speaking of "taking action into his own hands..."

I can't watch this. It pisses me off, and makes me want to say something intemperate.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at November 7, 2009 5:50 PM

I see where this is going: HYG will show up and preach about something completely irrelevant, then he'll get his ass handed to him by the people who actually know WTF they're doing, then well- stoned goat will take half a page to make an argument that's refuted in 2 seconds by one of our guys, maybe Mao will come in with some bullshit statistics. Build it and they will come...

Posted by: Some Guy at November 7, 2009 5:59 PM

I think in general we need to resist any efforts to derail a thread to some other topic by refusing to chase any red (appropriate) herrings thrown out by our sinister (pun intended) friends.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at November 7, 2009 6:16 PM

You Islamic Muslim's that are here are nothing but a piece of pork dung and if I had my way I'd have you, that gutless Pres., and the left in Congress all waterboarded in Gitmo and then set adrift without any boat or lifejackets off the coast of South Africa for Great White bait. That piece of crap that killed those soldiers was a terrorist and killed indiscriminately. You behead civilians and anyone that doesn't agree with your religion. Christianity will rule out in the end. So, go visit your ugly as hell virgins a_ _hole.

Posted by: Jimbo2 at November 7, 2009 6:20 PM

TMB = Typical Muslim Behavior

Posted by: SK at November 7, 2009 6:26 PM

Hey.... Most of them think it.... at least this guy says it aloud... we should thank him for telling us his plans and the plans of his religion...

Posted by: w at November 7, 2009 6:44 PM

I think this calls for a drive by "baconing".....
BTW...where are all the decent Americans...oops, that's right this is in NYC right?
If I had been walking by I would have clocked this asshole upside the head in a real V-8 moment....and I really wonder why no one else did.
Seriously...what has happened to our country?

Posted by: christmasghost at November 7, 2009 6:48 PM

This appears to be in Harlem where they have already been trained to hate Amerikkka so it's no wonder these guys met no resistance

Posted by: Contrarian_Libertarian at November 7, 2009 6:53 PM

Seriously guys...think about it, is there anything bacon can't do?
Want to watch a jihadi wannabee go berserk?
Want to make a point without going to jail?

Posted by: christmasghost at November 7, 2009 7:02 PM

Here's a good example of what musim prosletyzing has wrought in the prison system. This kid is either an ex con or a student at Columbia

Posted by: carol at November 7, 2009 7:06 PM

@ carol at November 7, 2009 7:06 PM

Get a much better and useful education in prision than Columbia.......

Posted by: Oiao at November 7, 2009 7:07 PM

Not today. I'm not a fan of invading other countries but even I'm embarrassed by how inaccurate many of his statements are.

Condolences to the families of the victims and a pox any anyone on any side who seeks to gain advantage from their deaths.

Posted by: hey you guys at November 7, 2009 7:07 PM

Posted by: Jimbo at November 7, 2009 6:20 PM

That was not me. Name hijackers are absolutely the lowest of the low.

Posted by: Jimbo at November 7, 2009 7:10 PM

This can't go on much longer

Posted by: Bob at November 7, 2009 7:22 PM

*NOTE TO GENTLE READERS*: This post was NOT intended to be a HATE ALL MUSLIMS post. Period. The guys in this vid are CLEARLY NOT representative of most American Muslims.

That said, I too am waiting for the outcry from the Joe Average American Muslim Community against this whackjob turbanhead that killed and maimed so many American patriots.

I'd expect the same from their respective communities if he were an Hasidic Jew or a Roman Catholic or a Fundamentalist Christian.

His history, as widely reported (well, on Fox anyway), speaks for itself - this guy was goat sh*t and the Army, scared sh*tless about being accused of insensitivity, was f*cking out of their heads letting him remain at his post.

So, let's hear it from our patriotic American Muslims. Shout out against this Mother F*cker.


Posted by: The MaryHunter at November 7, 2009 7:23 PM

Until we hear from "Joe Muslim", as loudly clearly and plainly as we hear from this guy, how do you KNOW that this is not "Joe Muslim" ?

Is it wishful thinking ?

Posted by: Jeff Stone at November 7, 2009 7:27 PM

There is NO LOW too low for the left, that is why they can't understand disgust for these pukes.

Posted by: TED at November 7, 2009 7:32 PM

1) This guy gives me a migraine

2) Hey, Geraldo and Pansy-Assed MSM, Tell Me Again Exactly WHO Will Use The Ft. Hood Islamist Terror Shooting To Cause Discontent Between America and The Muslim Population Here??? F*cking Tell Me Again … Go Ahead!

Posted by: drillanwr at November 7, 2009 7:38 PM

I have been waiting for the "moderate Muslim" to show up...and at this point I am pretty sure we are going to meet the 12th Imam first.
Really....we are all tolerant people, but when does tolerance just become absolute suicidal stupidity?
I'm guessing it already has...

Posted by: christmasghost at November 7, 2009 7:39 PM

Saying moderate Muslim is like saying moderate flesh eating bacteria or moderate serial killer.

Posted by: SK at November 7, 2009 7:42 PM

Using the words of Barack HUSSEIN Obama (let's not jump to any conclusions about the killer's motives. Let's see, a Muslim with Palestinian family who protested the war in Iraq and shouts Allahu Akbar before gunning these troops down... terrorists. Kind of fishy, huh? And his classless manner in which he addressed the situation live... "Lemme gif a showtowt to mah homey, Joe Medicine Crow in tha hizzy!" Same as he had the giggles when interviewed about the shitty economy.

Anyway, back to the main post... These assf**ks on this video say it, how long before they DO it?

Posted by: Atomic Lib Smasher at November 7, 2009 7:42 PM

I started to watch it but it was just too painful. I got so angry. A couple of things that I noticed...

1. There were dozens of them. Meaning that if there were hostilities, or even anti-protests, they were ready for action.

2. Revolution is the same message as the far left. That's why these animals see things the same way.

So upsetting. I wish they would just leave our country. No Caliphate for them. Not gonna happen!

Posted by: Steven at November 7, 2009 7:43 PM

b. If Islam is violent, why are so many Muslims peaceful?

This question is a bit like asking, "If Christianity teaches humility, tolerance, and forgiveness, why are so many Christians arrogant, intolerant, and vindictive?" The answer in both cases is obvious: in any religion or ideology there will be many who profess, but do not practice, its tenets. Just as it is often easier for a Christian to hit back, play holier-than-thou, or disdain others, so it is often easier for a Muslim to stay at home rather than embark on jihad. Hypocrites are everywhere.

Furthermore, there are also people who do not really understand their own faith and so act outside of its prescribed boundaries. In Islam, there are likely many Muslims who do not really understand their religion thanks to the importance of reciting the Quran in Arabic but not having to understand it. It is the words and sounds of the Quran that attract Allah's merciful attention rather than Quranic knowledge on the part of the supplicant. Especially in the West, Muslims here are more likely to be attracted by Western ways (which explains why they are here) and less likely to act violently against the society to which they may have fled from an Islamic tyranny abroad.

However, in any given social context, as Islam takes greater root -- increasing numbers of followers, the construction of more mosques and "cultural centers," etc. -- the greater the likelihood that some number of its adherents will take its violent precepts seriously. This is the problem that the West faces today.

Read it all...

Islam 101 - by Robert Spencer

Posted by: SK at November 7, 2009 7:45 PM

I carry myself with the mentality that at any time someone may try and bring harm to myself, or others. I do not hate, nor do I tolerate it. I accept that a specific group of people wish to see my fellow Americans, and I dead, which is why I am completely without trust of a very specific group of people. We do not live in a society that is peaceful and euphoric. Rather, our country is at war on many levels, and to be blind to the environment around you will only invite disaster. The time is now to take a stand and purify our great country of this terrible scourge. Those people mock us! They find joy in others misery. They wish to see us dead! To them we are infidels. Well my friends, to me, and hopefully to you as well, they ARE the enemy! I cannot speak for you, but I am absolutely disgusted by these vermin and I implore you to feel as I do. They must be stopped!

Posted by: obamasux at November 7, 2009 7:47 PM

Posted by: The MaryHunter at November 7, 2009 7:23 PM

I am not a CAIR fan, but to their credit, they were among the first - even before The Big Empty Zero - to condemn the Fort Hood murders. And they did so under no uncertain terms.

Posted by: Jimbo (the real one) at November 7, 2009 7:50 PM

The Myth of Moderate Islam

Moderate Islam Is A Myth

What is our goal?

We are apostates of Islam. We denounce Islam as a false doctrine of hate and terror. However we are not against Muslims who are our own kin and relatives. We do not advocate hate and violence. Muslims are the main victims of Islam. Our goal is to educate them and let them see the truth. We are against Islam and not the Muslims. We strive to bring the Muslims into the fold of humanity. Eradicate Islam so our people can be liberated, so they can prosper and break away from the pillory of Islam. We would like to see Islamic countries dedicate more time to science and less time to Quran and Sharia. We would like to see them prosper and contribute to human civilization. We would like to see the draconian laws of Islam eliminated and people are treated humanely. We strive for freedom of beliefs, for equality of gender and for oneness of mankind.

Posted by: SK at November 7, 2009 7:58 PM

Sorry. The above quote was from this site:

Apostates of Islam

Posted by: SK at November 7, 2009 8:01 PM

Posted by: Jimbo (the real one) at November 7, 2009 7:50 PM

Good to hear, Jimbo. Would love a link if you have one.

But SK's comment "Posted by: SK at November 7, 2009 7:58 PM" confuses the crap out of me.

Posted by: The MaryHunter at November 7, 2009 8:09 PM

Mary - I don't have a link. I heard it on FOX news.

Aren't they (CAIR) based out of Dallas-Fort Worth? They probably felt quite compelled to make a statement considering their proximity and knowing they are in a State with a citizenry that is armed to the teeth.

Posted by: Jimbo (the real one) at November 7, 2009 8:22 PM

Mary, check out my post Posted by: SK at November 7, 2009 8:01 PM

Posted by: SK at November 7, 2009 8:26 PM

I am sure that many people thought Hasan was a moderate muslim... right up to the time he jumped up on his desk, yelled Allahu Akbar and began performing his jihad.

Posted by: IOpian at November 7, 2009 9:24 PM

Should we allow him to be eaten alive by a bunch of pigs

Posted by: SPURWING PLOVER at November 7, 2009 9:55 PM

A tire iron or an axe handle....I wish I had been there to introduce this guy to either one.

Posted by: Pauly the Bull at November 7, 2009 10:46 PM

yes this individual, IF he is an American citizen is entitled to freedom of speech...IF he doesn't incite violent activity, which he clearly did, saying that there would be blood running in the streets on American soil. At that point I would have gladly granted him the honor of shedding his blood on that particular street, as would have been my right as an American for his violation of my right from oppression. He should have been arrested for inciting a riot, which I'm guessing was not far off, as they were taking in the barriers behind him. Even in new commie city they can't keep patriots quiet forever. He didn't last 10 minutes there, wouldn't last half that time in most of America.

Posted by: Eric at November 7, 2009 11:56 PM

Jimbo and TheMaryHunter...

When moonbats Chuck Schumer and Barbara Boxer call CAIR a group linked to terrorism, I'd listen.

Best bet is to go to

AAAN (Arab American Acion Network) once run by Rashid Khalidi (Obama and Ayers close neighbor and friend--Khalidi and his wife babysat O's kids) was an advisor to Arafat, called for the destruction of Israel, and sat together w/Obama/Ayers on the tiny 'Woods Fund' of Chicago.

ISNA (Islamic Society of North America) is run by Ingrid Mattson, who is a vocal critic of Israel, she has rationalized Taliban actions against women, she is a traditionalist on Sharia law, and she likens Christians who criticize radical Islamists to Osama bin Laden. Her ISNA publication matches her personal views: “The hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say, “O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him”, and, “I will expel the Jews and Christians from the Arabian Peninsula and will not leave any but Muslim.” Sounds a bit like a radical to me, but somehow Obama doesn’t think so.

On August 24, 2008, Ingrid Mattson was one of four keynote speakers chosen by Barack Obama to speak and pray, at an inter-faith gathering at the Colorado Convention Center, during the last Democratic National Convention. As if that wasn’t enough of a testimony to hypocrisy, on January 21, 2009, Ingrid Mattson was chosen by Barack Obama yet again, along with other clergy, to deliver an inaugural prayer during the Presidential Interfaith National Prayer Service, at the National Cathedral in Washington, D.C.

I hear all the apologies, but I take them with a grain of salted pork.

Posted by: AlphaMail at November 8, 2009 12:56 AM

Not all Moslems agree with this radical behavior. Moderate ones are the majority. That's why you hear them standing as one, saying "Under no circumstances is there EVER any reason for Moslems to kill others or martyr themselves in the name of Islam."

All those GOOD and MODERATE Moslems, esp. the ones that are GOOD and Patriotic Americans stand as one and say that...don't they?

P.S. Bacon...wards off Moslems and makes a great sandwich too. The ultimate, multi-purpose food.

Posted by: Wyatt's Torch at November 8, 2009 1:49 AM

This was one of the radicals Obama clung to at Columbia and Harvard.

Posted by: Scotty Starnes at November 8, 2009 2:26 AM

How come nobody is stomping the shit out of this turd bag?

Posted by: Boonie at November 8, 2009 3:18 AM

Posted by: Boonie at November 8, 2009 3:18 AM

That is because he is a protected species. Chairman Zero is watching out for his homie. He gets to live in the Wardens house, eat the Wardens food and sleep with the Wardens wife. And guess who is serving the food? Why its the Warden. And if need be, the Warden will chew his food.

Posted by: funkendunkel at November 8, 2009 4:49 AM

That said, I too am waiting for the outcry from the Joe Average American Muslim Community against this whackjob turbanhead that killed and maimed so many American patriots.

Me too. Me too.

Who can read the human heart? Only God. But we can glean information from certain clues.

It's about the assembly of a few suited Muslim bigwigs in front of the media to say, "We condemn any and all attacks on innocent civilians." While Ahmed Non-Alcoholic-Sixpack sits all comfy at home and knows the code--knows that that "innocent civilians" part leaves him a lot of leeway. Enough to weed out "Crusader oppressors in Iraq and Afghanistan," not to mention the Jews.

And then it's about the spontaneous and unanimous rioting of Muslims, both bigwigs and rank-and-file alike, to crash and burn when some Danish cartoonists draw a few mediocre cartoons of their object of reverence and imitation.

Could this be a slight clue as to where their hearts lie? Could it?

Or are we going to keep treating them like patients lying on the psychiatrist's couch?

Are we going to keep walking on the eggshells of "Don't rile them!"? Are we going to keep feeling so smugly superior and objectively skeptical as to let go of all our sense of self--and self-preservation?

What about us, folks? About us?

When are we going to make them realize we have a culture and values?

When are they going to understand it's us who should be trod around carefully so as not to rile?

When are Westerners going to see themselves as indigenous peoples who must resist colonialist invaders and their cultural imperialism? That's what the Left so admires, isn't it? (Don't tell me, I know: Only when it suits. Only in the case of non-Western, non-White, non-Bible-believing people.)

We have here an invasion of barbarians planting their alien values in our lands, raping our heritage and often literally our women, wrecking everything we hold dear. The Left says this is adequate grounds for a just and righteous movement of resistance. Let's take a leaf out of the Left's book and apply it to our case. Let them see how turnabout is fair play: If the Marxist narrative of the "brutish, insensitive Western tourist raging through mosques like a bull in a china shop" is to rouse one to resist, then the brutish, insensitive Muslim invader sounding the muezzin's cacophonic call five times a day in a Western neighborhood is seventy-sevenfold so.

Enough. Just enough.

Posted by: Conservigilant at November 8, 2009 5:47 AM

Always remember - The muslim radical is prepared to KILL. The moderate muslim is prepared to be patient. For both the goal is the same - to install Islam across this earth. The socialist left are helping these bastards to destroy the West by using PC to stifle any critisism against a religion that is hell bent on our demise. Wake up before it's too late!

Posted by: Lynette at November 8, 2009 6:35 AM

When they come for your guns, then this dude will be the mayor of your town.
Thank God we have universal healthcare now.
Light rail will be next and then perhaps a centralized camp so we can be moderated and observed. pretender in chief only knows inner city and cant grasp why anyone would live out in the country. Individualism? as long as you fall into the party line and be like everyone else.

Posted by: czuch at November 8, 2009 7:49 AM

These islamoscum; followers of the child molesting satan spawn, "Mohumed" are subhuman crap, and crap does have one good purpose that comes to mind. Round them up and made fertilizer of them. I look forward to the day when we can come face to face with this scourage upon our land and not have to worry about upsetting some PC weenie.
This land was founded for Christians and Jews and all the rest can go rot.

Posted by: Bill S. at November 8, 2009 7:49 AM

Deal with him like this. Click, BANG!

Posted by: jb at November 8, 2009 7:51 AM


Spot on.

A minority of Muslims do the actual violent jihad.

The majority provide the latter with aid and comfort.

As for the relationship between Islam and Marxism, permit me to reiterate something I posted not long ago:

It's a symbiotic relationship of mutualism, where the Marxists, having lost their big military base (the U.S.S.R.), use the Muslims as their fist, and the Muslims, not being so refined at the art of rhetoric, use the Marxists as their mouth. The fist that pounds at the hated Capitalist, "White" (a big lie, of course: ask any Hindu who's suffered under Islam or any Cambodian who's suffered under Marxism), Bible-believing West, and the mouth that justifies those atrocities.

How efficient the mouth? "Don't jump into conclusions," "Don't let there be any backlash against Muslims," that's how.

Posted by: Conservigilant at November 8, 2009 8:24 AM

I'd happily make a contribution to buy that jackass a one-way ticket to the Muslim Paradise of his choice.

Posted by: Jim - PRS at November 8, 2009 8:26 AM

I'd happily make a contribution to buy that jackass a one-way ticket to the Muslim Paradise of his choice.

Or as one patriot bumper sticker had it:

"Their judgment is between them and God. We're just here to arrange the meeting."

Posted by: Conservigilant at November 8, 2009 8:28 AM

A street preacher rants while pedestrians walk on by. It's a common sight in most cities.

Does Fred Phelps and the Westboro Baptist Church represent Baptists or Christians? Of course not, and other churches have spoken out against him.

If you want to read some responses from Muslim organizations to the Fort Hood tragedy , condemning the actions of Hasan, a web search will turn them up.

Posted by: Lao at November 8, 2009 9:27 AM

Does Fred Phelps and the Westboro Baptist Church represent Baptists or Christians? Of course not, and other churches have spoken out against him.

Fred Phelps, as repulsive as he and his inbred minions are, dont go about shooting and blowing people up!!

The problem with muslims is their condemnation is not enough. I have never seen or heard of any concrete action taken by them to root out jihadism from the mosque or from the Ummah!

Posted by: Arch Conservative at November 8, 2009 9:57 AM

(a) In case it got lost, my earlier comment was satire. Obviously, there IS not outcry from the "moderate" Moslem population. Just a teeny little "it was wrong" so they can say they said it.


Moslems will ALWAYS side with Moslems. This was a terrorist attack...on American soil...on a U.S. military base.

Lao, I'm glad you are safely behind your computer and living in a (mostly) free, (mostly) safe country in which a sub-human like you can openly side with the enemy. There is no atrocity, no seditious act, no destructive force for which you will not make an excuse.

When the hammer finally falls in the country (which it will), I would not want to be you.

Posted by: Wyatt's Torch at November 8, 2009 11:53 AM

Wyatt, you make your own utterly wrong interpretation of what I said and then condemn me for it. That's called attacking a straw man.

Arch C., how do you respond to those Muslims who honorably serve in our armed forces? How do you respond to those who have died in that service?

Posted by: Lao at November 8, 2009 12:53 PM

RE: Posted by: Lao at November 8, 2009 12:53 PM

"....Muslims who honorably serve in our armed forces? How do you respond to those who have died in that service?"

Are you talking about "Muslims" as a religious group, political group, or pseudoethnic category?

Posted by: TonyD95B at November 8, 2009 12:57 PM

Tony, how about providing your own definitions for each of those categories?

I was speaking generically. There are people of the Muslim faith who are honorably serving in our military.

Posted by: Lao at November 8, 2009 1:07 PM

Wyatt's Torch....Hey, why don't we make crosses out of bacon?
It's the perfect way to ward off the evil Muslims...and yes, kids, they are all evil.
Look at it this way.....we hear from chairman zero all about "the fabulous things" the Muslims have done for the world...uh huh...but what have they done in the last 10 centuries?
Attack attack attack...their own women and children and anyone else they wanted to steal from.
This is a death does not deserve any respect at all.
And we should all remember what happens to people who are too polite. The Jews were very polite as they got on boxcars and walked into the gas chambers weren't they? So, tell me the difference here. We are at war with Islam....and if you think otherwise you haven't been paying attention....and yet, we allow these scum, into OUR country. It's ours not theirs ...and if we don't start getting that point across pretty fast soon it will be THEIRS and that has been their plan all along.
How do I know this? They keep telling us.

BTW....try asking random people why the Marines are called the leathernecks...they won't be able to tell you.....and how sad is that?
And are an idiot.

Posted by: christmasghost at November 8, 2009 1:41 PM

Arch C., how do you respond to those Muslims who honorably serve in our armed forces? How do you respond to those who have died in that service?

Posted by: Lao at November 8, 2009 12:53 PM

That question cannot be answered, on the basis of individual merit. If you are about non practising muslims, then yes, I can treat them as equally as anyone else. But a devout, practising muslim in the US Armed Forces, fighting wars in Dar al Islam, when his religion commands him that he cannot kill a fellow muslim, much less in the service of a kaffir army? I'd say he doesnt belong there, inspite of any individual merit. I say he's a liabillity, as Major Hassan was.

Posted by: Arch Conservative at November 8, 2009 1:52 PM

A devout, practicing Muslim who serves honorably in our armed forces is a liability?

Posted by: Lao at November 8, 2009 2:50 PM

A devout, practicing Muslim who serves honorably in our armed forces is a liability?

Posted by: Lao at November 8, 2009 2:50 PM

Yes, I believe so. Past and present service does not determine future service and this is not the first time a muslim in the US Forces has committed acts of high treason and in most cases, intent to carry out terrorist acts.

The danger is here, and you seemingly fail to understand this. Any devout muslim will tell you he is muslim before he is American, British or whatever. IF America and the West were ever to enter a global conflict with the middle east, then the armed forces would automaticaly have the enemy among it own ranks. Would you, as a US citizen be OK with that?

Posted by: Arch Conservative at November 8, 2009 5:21 PM

So a devout, practicing Muslim who, while serving honorably in our armed services, is killed in the line of duty is a liability?

Posted by: Lao at November 8, 2009 8:10 PM

The problem here is Lao's moral equivalence.

On a terrorism scale of 1 to 10, where 1 is a few stupid ignorant signs and 10 is killing people openly on a large scale over an extended period of time who don't subscribe to your particular belief system, I would rate Westboro about a 2. Annoying, hateful, distracting, embarrassing, misrepresentative, but not serious terrorists. To my knowledge they have never killed anyone.

Islam, looking back over the last 1300 years, would have to rate at least an 8 by my reckoning.


On a scale of 1 to 10, where 1 is no response and 10 is outright consistent condemnation and disavowal, the reaction by the majority of Christians to Westboro has been probably about a 9 to 10. I have never yet read a high profile Christian commentator say anything else. That's why Westboro ilk have little or no influence beyond their little world. Strangely enough, that's because the Bible condemns what Westboro are doing.

The reaction from Muslims about terrorist acts like Fort Hood in my estimation would vary between about 4 and minus 10. That's because their 'holy' writings endorse this behaviour and they only pay lip service to a level of condemnation large enough to be reported by the media for publicity purposes.

Don't make that ridiculous comparison again, Lao. People are dead and your morality is clearly twisted and backwards to even think about putting those two examples in the same argument. The fact is that Islam itself is evil. Those 'nice' muslims are only nice because they're poor examples of muslims who've been westernized and/or they're not in power, yet.

And furthermore, your questions are worthless smokescreens. A better question for you is, what is lost if the military ban practicing muslims from serving? Even better, what is gained?

Posted by: Stephan at November 8, 2009 9:49 PM

"A better question for you is, what is lost if the military ban practicing muslims from serving? Even better, what is gained?"
What is lost? Their ability to further infiltrate our military.
What is gained? Just a little more security.
Honestly, LAO is so stupid he would let child molesters babysit his kids and a rapist do his gardening while his wife was home alone..
It's time we stopped listening to the moronic LAO's of the world and instead listen to our own common sense.
What would be lost if we outlawed the muslim religion here in the states and made all of them leave...back to their own countries?
Nothing....but we would gain quite a bit of security. How stupid is a culture that coddles the enemy anyway?
The "American muslims" are mostly felons whose IQ's wouldn't reach room temperature in a cheap motel room on a cold day....they will just end up back in prison where there should not be any muslim anything. Period.
I'm sorry but can anyone tell me how the muslim "religion" is even remotely compatible with our culture?

Posted by: christmasghost at November 8, 2009 10:19 PM

I was not talking about moral equivalence I was talking about one person being identified as representative of an entire religion. Phelps isn't and neither is Hasan.

What is lost if the military bans white supremacists from serving? Even better, what is gained?

Posted by: Lao at November 8, 2009 10:35 PM

Sorry, Lao, but your attempt to throw another smokescreen question up is again just another example of your screwed up ideas. The purpose of the military is to win wars when they are commanded to engage in them, not to be PC. They should employ whatever methods they can to ensure that result.

Lao is sadly an example of what happens when you educate someone but fail to guide their moral compass.

Posted by: Stephan at November 8, 2009 11:34 PM

...and btw, you seem to have missed the fact that Hasan is representative of Islam. That is what it teaches.

Posted by: Stephan at November 8, 2009 11:37 PM


A devout, practicing Muslim who serves honorably in our armed forces is a liability?

Yes, yes, and yes again.

You don't understand this thing about Islam vs. other religions.

Rick Jackson becomes a religious Christian: add one more Bible-thumper you pass by on the street.

Abe Cohen becomes a religious Jew: remember not to call him Friday evening to Saturday evening.

Ram Dharmakar goes back to his Hindu roots: declines the meat he once used to eat so avidly.

Frank Chu decides there's something in the Buddhism he saw his father practice: he isn't ignoring you, he's just deep in meditation.

And so forth. With one exception.

Mohammed Hasan gets in touch with his grandfather's religion. Or perhaps Terry Connor finds it after "searching for himself," and subsequently changes his name to Mohammed Hasan. Either way: the likelihood of him doing violent jihad rises fast. The likelihood of him just supporting the violent jihad rises very fast.

Ask John Walker Lindh. Ask the guy formerly known as Cat Stevens ("Death would be too kind to him," he said of Salman Rushdie). Ask all those who, just inexplicably, maddeningly, consistently fail to embrace the True Islam of peacefulness, always falling into the hands of that Small, Tiny, Microscopic, Subatomic, Quark-Sized Minority of Extremists.

But let's not be bigoted. No, anything but being a (drum roll, please) racist. Better dead, as the Priests of the Church of Multiculturalism tell us, than stained by the unpardonable sin of Political Incorrectness.

Posted by: Conservigilant at November 9, 2009 7:32 AM

I want to put a laser dot right between his eyes...

Posted by: Mike at November 9, 2009 7:37 AM

Stephan says: "Hasan is representative of Islam. That is what it teaches."

Hasan, as one representative of Islam, murders people.

Millions in the U.S. follow Islam and don't murder anybody.

Conclusion about the "teachings"?

Posted by: Lao at November 9, 2009 8:22 AM

Millions in the U.S. follow Islam and don't murder anybody.

Correct. They only give their active support (aid and comfort, as well as omission of notifying the authorities) to those who do.

Posted by: Conservigilant at November 9, 2009 10:33 AM

Nonsense. You can't provide any proof that "millions" give "active" support.

What "support" has been shown on Moonbattery? The word of a handful of extremists who have revealed themselves so the authorities can check in on them.

Posted by: Lao at November 9, 2009 1:04 PM

Lao.....try this. See if you can read and comprehend it:
And yes, he was an absolute representation of Muslims. Have you ever lived in a Muslim country?
My parents did...Libya, my sister was born there... and muslims sucked back then too. Violent, ignorant and they are going to stay that way because it's what the koran [piss be upon it] says they should do.

Posted by: christmasghost at November 9, 2009 1:24 PM

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