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I can't wait to see the liberal trolls defending this animal.

I thought Obama's performance since becoming President, most especially his anti-American and anti-semitic foreign policy, would have settled, once and for all, the question of whether Obama was paying attention to the Rev. Wright's radical views. On second thought, Obama's domestic agenda is just as telling as his foreign policy. All liberation (Marxist/anti-capitalist)theology.

Just in case anyone is unclear about what he is referring to, Monthly Review is a radical revolutionary Marxist propaganda machine, founded by Paul Sweezy, a Harvard professor, described by the NYT as, "the nation's leading Marxist intellectual."

Some of its more notable contributors include: W. E. B. Du Bois, Jean-Paul Sartre, Che Guevara, Joan Robinson, Tariq Ali, Grace Lee Boggs, Noam Chomsky, Bernardine Dohrn, Mumia Abu-Jamal, Marilyn Buck, Doug Henwood, Michael Klare, James Petras, Frances Fox Piven, and Adrienne Rich.

This is not an ordinary left-wing Socialist rag dedicated to advancing the worker's movement and social justice by simply supporting unions and government. This is a full-blown hive of totalitarian Marxist revolutionary thought.

These people don't simply want to take away your paycheck to the coffers of the welfare state. These are the people who would take you away to the Gulag for being an enemy of the people.

Wright is praising this publication, and claiming it offers truth that the MSM refuses to provide. That should tell you where Wright's beliefs lie.

"Marxist intellectual" ... there's an oxymoron right up there with "islamic scholar".

What a vile excuse for a humanbeing dont that idiot know that marxist are complete atheists who pericute any form of religion or is JEREMIAH WRIGHT too stupid to think with his walnut sized brain

Are we surprised that the members of this little community of freaks are incapable of understanding the subtle power of actually thinking? Just in general... THINKING.

I get that not one of you will ever understand anything about capitalism, communism, or marxism beyond what Rush tells you to think... but the fact that people like to discuss alternative theories of human existence is a damned good thing. And Wright pointing out that the MSM apperas incapable of any actual discourse beyond the most obvious of black-and-white generalities is... bad? (Only bad if you have a vested interest in making sure that nobody actually thinks about anything... the GOP's last card to play is ignorance, and man do they play it constantly...)

If people weren't out there discussing alternatives, we would all still be sitting in caves waiting for various gods to provide the rain. Some of you are still working on that theory... but fortunately, some aren't. Mocking thinkers just reveaqls you for what you really are: incredibly stupid people, fearful of the intellects of others.

I wonder how long the Marxists would allow Wright to live in his $10million mansion, tax free no doubt?

So, Meh, answer the question, was Obama lying or stupid when he claimed he had no ideal Jeremiah Wright was an America-hating radical? ("Land of the greed, Home of the slave.")

but the fact that people like to discuss alternative theories of human existence is a damned good thing
Yeah, its been discussed, examined, tried, and it doesn't work. Conservatives don't have a problem with it being discussed - those discussing it certainly have the right to do so. Conservatives simply know that Marxism is good for nothing other than oppression, tyranny, and economic collapse.

Thus, it has been relegated to the ash heap of history, as far as viable ideas are concerned.

he is not an america-hating radical... he has been posseessed of that most anti-GOP of thoughts... that America is NOT perfect. That we can, in fact, strie to make things better than tey are now. And that we can do this by... THINKING!

I know it hurts your tiny brains to think like that... but it is not the fault of the ideas, it is the fault of the brains that can't comprehend the ideas.

I didn't really expect an answer, but it is amusing that the person who lectures others about "thinking" won't answer a direct question except to spout stale, unexamined leftist cliches.

Oh I see VtK, you wanted a yes/no answer? Like you get from Rush and Glenn? Everything in balck and white, and NO THINKING!

Nope. Some people are capable, and in fact enjoy, the process of thinking. Some things cannot be adequately expressed in terms of yes/no answers.

Anathema to the GOP? Yes. But hardly new information. Try it sometime?

Look up there, look...
Oh it's gone.

that America is NOT perfect

Is Obama perfect? Is the left perfect?

If not what are their faults? And please, don't give us that crap about "caring too much," or some such.

Of course not. A stupid question. The difference is (of course) that O and his team are AWARE of that fact.

I would posit that O's greatest fault at the moment is not taking the tager by the balls and forcing more of his agenda through. Bipartisanship only works when the stated goal of the opposition is not "Get in the way and prevent everything no matter what".

Im also super pissed that there isn't tort reform in the healthcare bill. Asshat Dems in congress are just as bad as their GOP counterparts.

But the really important point is that Obama 1) recognizes that the status quo is bad 2) sees a theoretical outcome where americans are no longer fodder for the healthcare cannons 3) is not afraid to look the crazy stupid p[eople in the eye and remind them they they are crazy and stupid.

A damned good start. He's got 7 more years to work on the rest of the plan.

I would posit that O's greatest fault at the moment is not taking the tager by the balls and forcing more of his agenda through.

Excuse me, but that's a fault of the "caring too much" and "working too hard" type that people give when asked their faults in a performance appraisal/interview context.

Give me a real fault about Obama. Here are a few for you to choose from: thin-skinned, grass green, narcissistic, can't take criticism and reacts vindictively to it, makes shitty choices of friends and associates, pathologically secretive about his past.

For the left, try these on for size: have a streak of anti-Americanism (we can argue about how wide that streak is, but please admit there is one), unsavory connections with and admiration for assorted communists (e.g., Castro, Guevara, Mao, Chavez), criminals (e.g., Mumia, Ayers, Dohrn), and perverts (e.g., Gacy, Frank, Milk, Polanski), pronounced desire to control others (e.g., diet, childcare, firearms, smoking, recycling, now carbon emissions(!)), fueling racial animosities (and/or threatening riots) either for electoral gain (Obama and essentially every black-controlled city in America) or to "mobilize the masses" or shakedown legitimate businesses (Sharpton, Jackson, ACORN), routinely apply double-standards ("Hymietown," paranoid racist rants about white people coming up with AIDS/selling malt liquor/somehow causing gang violence among blacks, Frank's "boyfriend" running a homosexual prostitution ring out of their lovenest, Gerry Studds molesting a male page, all A-OK) engaging in wholesale electoral fraud (Gregoire, Franken, Chicago generally, and too many other examples examples to mention).

Those are a few off the top of my head. So which of those are you willing to plump for? They're all true.

This is why I hate the spread-the-wealth schemes. The very idea that my hard work and long hours would go for creature comforts for the likes of any of our trolls is revolting. I dislike them very much, I don't want to open my bank account to them. That belongs to me and mine and those I choose to share it with.

[Obama] is not afraid to look the crazy stupid p[eople in the eye and remind them they they are crazy and stupid.

If he shows up with a shiner, we'll know he tried it on Michelle. /g

Seriously, though, I join you in hoping he does just that.

Now Jay, that is just fall-out-of-my-chair funny. And, I guess that Anon has no problem with redistribution of wealth? Just curious. As long as it's someone else's wealth?

Herd mentality? Uncomfortable truths? The only uncomfortable truth will be when the socialists win and people are herded to live in surroundings that are normally associated with public housing projects in major American cities.

This creep is just another common as they come propagandist; one that can be found on most college campuses. If you want to see the results of Marxism, take a look at this video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPaz9ztzFTA It is long (fourteen parts) but well worth seeing how Lenin and other Marxists have absolutely nor regard to human life. The enviro-monsters of today didn't think up their hatred on their own; no, their roots run deep, as evidenced by this video.

What Reverend Wright said is considerably more harsh than "America isn't perfect."

He has said America is a land of greed and slavery, and that America should be "damned" by God himself.

To any thoughtful person, that's orders of magnitude more severe than "America is not perfect."

There's a difference between Marxism (theory) and communism (practice). Of course, it doesn't help that Marxism cannot be implemented as it was intended due to human nature.

So ... we can't muster the intellectual honesty to admit that neither Obama nor the left are ...perfect? (I tremble to type the very words.)

Thought so.

There's a difference between Marxism (theory) and communism (practice). Of course, it doesn't help that Marxism cannot be implemented as it was intended due to human nature.

Assuming that to be true, it logically follows that, since human nature prevents ideologically pure Marxism from ever existing, and an analysis of history suggests such, then it must follow that those who advocate Marxism in practical, political contexts are either supremely naive as to the eventual outcome of what they preach, or they do in fact understand the outcome and have no problem with it.

Some liberals apologize for Marxism by opining that we have never seen Marxism, only Communism, or that Marx's ideas, while good, can never be practically implanted, instead devolving into classic Communism in practice.

Those who espouse this defense of Marxism are, unbeknownst to themselves, actually serving as effective critics of the Marxist ideology. If Communism is the necessary and certain outcome of Marxist advocacy, then all advocacy for Marxism on a practical, political level (as opposed to what-if scenarios in academic discussions) is actually advocacy for Communism as the twentieth century knew it.

When X always leads to Y, then any person advocating X is either advocating Y or naively ignoring their furtherance of Y.

Since Monthly Review is an overtly Marxist publication focused on actual implementation of Marxist principles, Wright's advocacy of what MR stands for and hopes to do is indistinguishable from advocacy for Communism.

What Wright fails to grasp is that Communism has zero use for preachers and their populist opiate, or media figures living lives of luxury. Under Communism, useful idiots are permitted to keep their bourgeois lifestyle as long as they remain useful, which for Wright, will end as soon as Communism no longer needs advocates in the political discourse, as it aims to completely eliminate political discourse.

There is difference, which should be apparent to even a mental midget like you anon, between knowing that your government is not perfect, admitting that there is always room for improvement and outright hating your country.

Winding around the world apologizing for America being prosperous, for smashing the Hussein regime, for freeing the Iraqis, for obliterating the Taliban and keeping Americans safe by extracting information from hateful radicals.

Like you and your fellow Leftists.

Obama and The First Linebacker have both expressed anti-American sentiments - repeatedly. They belonged to a church for two decades ran by an America hating race baiter. Being mentored and having a political career launched by a domestic, Marxist terrorist.

To wit...

November 01, 2009
Is Barack Obama Anti-American?

America is no longer the symbol of liberty around the world. She's just another nation -- and worse, one whose leader, by temperament and political belief, has more reverence for dictatorships than democracies. In other words, when Obama deals with the world outside America, he again denies America's essence, which has so long marked her as the symbol of and standard-bearer for freedom.

Just as an orange deprived of its color becomes the anti-orange, it's reasonable to state that because the overwhelming number of Barack Obama's desires and actions are antithetical to America's essence, he is in fact anti-American. He's not merely making little changes around the edges, smoothing away rough spots, augmenting existing traits, or getting rid of a few ugly cankers. Instead, both at home and abroad, Barack Obama is trying to destroy America's essence, that commitment to liberty that makes her unique in this world, and that makes her uniquely American.

Incredible that there are still people out there thinking (excuse the expression) that Marxism is somehow a pure theory; that if only not for the wretchedness of human nature, Marxism would not have degenerated into communism as we know it.

I think Marxism is embraced by people who have only read the comic-book version and have never read any other philosophy.
Marxism is just dead wrong as a philosophy of economics and a vapid, simplistic understatement of the human condition.

Leftists invevitably try to make the philosophy out to be something more than it was.

Seeing old, regurgitated arguments on Marxism-does-not-equal communism, I can't help but return to my thoughts that: "okay. Okay.
Maybe liberals should not be smothered at birth for their own damn good."

However, they should at least be made to qualify on an economics exam for the good of the social collective.

it doesn't help that Marxism cannot be implemented as it was intended due to human nature

Posted by: Anonymous at November 2, 2009 4:21 PM

So, remind us again of why it's a good idea to support an ideology that even you admit is destined for failure?

"Marxism" today is an adolescent fantasy for people who are unable to adjust to make a healthy environment for themselves.
Expectorants like Wright, and unfortunately most of our present government, recognize this in the weak and ignorant, and then exploit it for their own aggrandizement.

In regards to the person who listed the "extremist" who have contributed to the monthly review, he forgot to mention Albert Einstein. Yes Albert Einstein, one of the greatest Americans was also a contributor. Let us say that Einstein like a true genius was no extremist and did contribute an interesting essay called "Why socialism?".

Murders of Christopher Newsom and Channon Christian

I thought you might find the following article from snopes.com interesting: http://www.snopes.com/politics/crime/newsom.asp