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if getting stoned helps you believe in global warming. Al must be high as a kite then.

What should a business do when it is hamstrung by government and losing to its competition?

The rational, free-market move would be to offer a better product or service at a better price. Rational businessmen would trim costs, improve efficiency, and stand up for liberty if government is the source of the problem.

Instead of doing that, UPS, which is infested with unions, has shifted its business strategy to include lobbying designed to spread the infestation of moonbattery to its main competitor, FedEx. Like a parasite, union moonbats have gained such a level of control over their host as to actually use their host to further spread the disease.

Since the combination of Big Labor and Big Government have crippled UPS, their solution has been to direct the full tyranny of government at their competitor, rather than freeing themselves from the clutches of corrupt union bosses.

UPS uses unions as weapons to attempt to cripple FedEx

Reason TV: UPS whiteboard parody

No word on when the Anti-Dog-Eat-Dog law will be coming out of committee.

The backlash is coming.

Spending the day with a bunch of true American Heros at the VA Hospital. Oh, and none of them are Union Bosses.

Semper Fi.

Moonbattery is an infectious disease. This progressive disease cripples the defenses of the host, and induces self-destructive delusions in the victim's own mind.

Southerners, historically noted for having an independent streak, have begun taking their first sips of the Obamunist Kool-Aid.

As a result, 2 in 3 southerners now want more government programs to create jobs.

2 in 3 southerners want more government cheese

The message of Ronald Reagan has been lost in the South, and needs to be re-awakened. Southerners have forgot the basic truth that government does not create true jobs. It can only suck capital out of the private market to breed bureaucrats instead of productive workers, of pump up a house-of-cards of an economy using freshly borrowed and printed money. Neither avenue creates real value, so neither source of imagined productivity and wealth will last beyond the point at which the government illusion can no longer be propped up with other peoples' money.

Polar bears find solution to Gore problem

Dear Leader is starstruck

More pathetic lies from the FauxNews crew (but this is truly perfect comedic timing from Stewart - embedded below for the lazy among you) - if any of you people had a sense of humor and occasionally watched Jon Stewart, you would be a lot harder for Hannity/Beck/et al to fool so often...

So, which of you is ready to go ahead and cry foul? "NOOO! It is all Obama that did that! Faox is the most legitimate news EVER!"

Come on, you know you want to... dance monkeys dance!

crap. trying to write HTML before 2nd cup of coffee results in... failure. it is first on thedailyshow.com - just go watch.

damn. this is what happens when HTML and a lack of coffee combine. it is the top link on thedailyshow.com - just go find it and watch.

No, this is what happens when you use HTML tags to try and embed instead of for text styling.

What blog in their right mind (no pun intended) would allow flash embeds?

I just can't take anyone seriously who uses the term "FauxNews" unironically.

Gonna be cheap"

V the K, these are the same people that get their news form the COMEDY CHANNEL and MTV! ROTFLMAO!! What idiots ;-)

Just doing a little study, and on the day in history that izlamist terrorist turned on fellow service members:

1942 Egypt El Alamein

November 5th, 1942 : The British win the Second Battle of El Alamein with the British Eighth Army headed by ( Monty ) Lieutenant-General Bernard Montgomery when the ( Afrika Korps ) commanded by Field Marshal Rommel ( Desert Fox ) are forced to surrender exhausted and dying from dehydration. In a famous speech a few days later Winston Churchill uses these well known lines "This is not the end, it is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning.".

and:

"1953 U.S.A. Middle East

November 5th, 1953 : It was revealed that Israel and Arab states were warned that the United States could not carry the financial burden of the Middle East forever. The cause of this burden was largely because of plans to develop the Jordan River, and to assist 800,000 Israeli refugees. The refugees were displaced as a result of the Palestine War. "

and:

1973 U.S.A. Watergate

"November 5th, 1973 : In the midst of the need for peace in the Middle East, along with the pressing energy crisis, more was at stake in Congress. Another order of business on the agenda pertained to whether or not President Nixon should step down. He was allegedly a part of the Watergate Scandal."

and:

2006 Iraq Saddam Hussein Sentenced To Death

"November 5th, 2006 : Saddam Hussein is sentenced to death in the al-Dujail trial for his role in the massacre of the 148 Shi'as in 1982"

Izlamist extremists ALMOST ALWAYS use previous dates of importance in their attacks. Just a thought...

Just forced myself to listen to President Dopey Change's remarks at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldiers. Although he did not give a shout-out, he did pause for applause when he mentioned VP Biden's soldier son was just back from Iraq. When none was forthcoming, he rattled his papers and just kept waiting. Still no applause. Finally, he summoned up his fabulous communications skills and continued, "uh...uh..." A somber occasion at which once again the president demonstrates his ignorance of protocol and propriety, his contempt for his audience, and his inability to deviate from his script and staging directions. You should watch this clip.

AC I'm not being picky but did you take into account all the northern moonbats that have moved to the south in the last 20 years?

They are the worst sort of moonbat, Farmer Ted.

ruddie, oh my God. It has come to that whenever chairman zero steps up to the podium, I cringe. When the USS New York was being commissioned, I was relieved to hear that at least it would be Hillary making the speech. If zero made the speech, it would have been a horrifying collection of variants on the word "I."

It's a good thing the professor is black, otherwise he would be a racist.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/prof_busted_in_columbia_gal_punch_JmsXQ3NzaAt8uG6uUySGTN

The Jon Stewart clip is much funnier, but, if you want your "news" from Fox itself, then just go here:

Hannity and Bachmann on Fox

At about 3:16 you will see something rather amazing. What had been a nice, clear, blue sky day suddenly turns overcast. What had been nice fall colors on the leaves on the trees suddenly reverts back to green.

Around the same point in the clip, you see a view down the mall and lo and behold, way down near the monument, we see the white tents that were there on 9/12.

Hannity added clips of the 9/12 demonstration to make the latest demonstration look larger than it actually was.

I think FAUX "news" is pretty accurate.

Lao what color is the sky on your planet?

Explain the changes in the video Farmer Ted.

Here's some commentary on the same issue:

Jazz Shaw commentary

Rasmussen reports that Obama is down to -10% on the strong approve/disapprove index, and his overall approval is down to 46%

Slip sliding away, slip sliding away
You know the nearer your destination, the more you slip sliding away

:)

"Farmer Ted at November 11, 2009 10:20 AM"

Thanks, I was going to point that out.

"Lao at November 11, 2009 12:27 PM"

Farmer Ted doesn't work for Fox News. But if you still think he should explain the actions of others, the YOU explain why "war protesters" are useing the same tactics that PROLONGED the Viet Nam war when they SAY they are agaiinst the current war.

Getting stoned while watching dumb movies like WATERWORLD,THE DAY AFTER TOMORROW,A INCONVENT TRUTH it cuases green stree wackoness

I see you want to change the subject Kharn, but I don't have to play.

You don't have to work for Fox to have an opinion about what they did.

Fox deliberately added footage from a separate event to present a false impression for their audience. This is a network that bills itself as being "fair and balanced".

Does this deliberate deception call that motto into question for you?

Of the 200 amendments the Democrats in the House rejected before passing Pelosicare, 11 would have required for Congress to enroll in the government option.

Lao what you percieve when you watch something may be completely different then when another person watches the same thing. It's called perception which is influeneced by one's life experiences and other outside influeneces that they have experienced in their lives. In otherwords lao you see what you want to see. You,for example, are a raving moonbat which is why I asked what color the sky is on your planet to begin with.

Farmer Ted, the color of the sky on my planet is blue, but on a bright sunny day it does not all of a sudden go overcast.

On my planet, the leaves on deciduous trees turn orange and red and yellow in the fall and it is quite lovely. They very definitely do not suddenly turn green again.

Both of those things happened in the Fox video I linked, look for yourself.

Tell us about your planet.

lao my planet is a beautiful place that is void of moonbatty people that want the government to provide for them from cradle to grave. The public schools teach children the basics and not songs to a so-called president. I know you would hate my planet because moonbats such as yourself would be enlightened and start doing for themselves and not be lead around by the nose by bias news agencies. Also fossil fuels are used and refined by this wonderful country called America. See in America people are all for a clean enviroment but balk at government subsidies that prop up unproven enviromental power generating sources. You would know them as windmills and solar panels. In my world people aren't forced to give up their hard earned money on government run ponzi schemes and don't have their tax dollars wasted on horseshit pork barrel spending. That's just a short view into my world,it used to be called America, before scum such as you self oozed out of the gene pool.

I can't watch videos from where I am, and I didn't see it live. Lao, do you honestly think this thing you're so gleeful about is going to make all of us and the millions of others who watch Fox news, all of a sudden grab the remote control and switch over to the raving loon Keith Olberman? Or the carpet muncher? I don't think so. Put your pants back on.

Here's someone else's response from another board:

"Hannity doesn't edit the video clips, DUmmies. Some peon in the editing room made a mistake. Big deal. It's not like they faked TANG memos in order to smear a sitting president and influence the outcome of a presidential election."

You're talking to the crowd that thinks President Bush personally prepared the intelligence reports for Congress - I wouldn't waste your time.

"Lao at November 11, 2009 1:07 PM"

You seemed to blame Farmer Ted for the videos used, why is that? Since you see nothing wrong with what that, then answer my question insted of dodgeing it because it's THE SAME THING YOU DID.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/prof_busted_in_columbia_gal_punch_JmsXQ3NzaAt8uG6uUySGTN

A black professor punches a white woman and he refers to the assault as "an unfortunate incident." BTW, did I mention he was arguing with her over race relations? This ought to really help with those.

(This article was inspired by a picture on Moonbattery.com.)

Jim Carrey and the Politics of Astigmatic Hypocrisy

Actor Jim Carrey is not unlike any number of his comrades and comradettes in Hollywood: He operates under the delusion that stardom confers wisdom and that wealth bestows insight.

And Carrey, like George Clooney and Sean Penn and Susan Sarandon, is flush with celebrity wisdom and insight when it comes to political observations. Even as he rakes in $20 million a picture, he sees fit to rip “personal greed and ambition” and the capitalistic system that made him a very rich man.

Such an outlandish display of astigmatic hypocrisy!

Canadian Carrey, stand-up-comic-turned-movie-star, has made it big time via the capitalist-world of Hollywood yet feels free to attack the very economic system that made his success possible.

Compounding his muddled thought processes, Carrey’s newest flick, Disney’s PC version and “Digital Dickens” production of A Christmas Carol, had a lackluster opening.

In a decidedly negative review of Carrey and his Scrooge, S.T. Karnick wrote of Carrey’s ”political flatulence.”

He quoted the actor: . .

(Read the rest at http://www.genelalor.com/blog1/?p=1319)

Karen, it is far more than a "mistake" to take video from one day's shooting and edit in video from several weeks ago. Please, show some intellectual honesty.

No, I don't think this is going to make you stop watching Fox. What I hope it does do is open your eyes, just a tiny bit, to the "fair and balanced" viewpoint you are being offered.

For those of you in denial about what Hannity did in dishonestly manipulating his video, he is going to address the issue tonight.

That certainly suggests to me that he takes these charges seriously.

Lao, he is actually going to address it? I am surprised, as it tends to only be Shep who issues errata. It is folks like natives here who blame the editors and video tech guys. Not the show, God forbid Hannity deceive. They also ignored the news on murdoch admitting he sets the tone, tells the hosts what to say.

I probably won't bother with the digital FX version of A Christmas Carol. It looks stupid. Why spoil a great story with digital created characters? I'll stick with Alistar Sim or the TV movie from 20 odd years ago with George C. Scott in the title role. Great performance from an actor who also kicked silver screen ass as General Patton.

"They also ignored the news on murdoch admitting he sets the tone, tells the hosts what to say". So, Goats, you don't think that Immelt tells the news division at NBC/MSDNC what to say? As he sits at the left hand of the messiah, I'd bet he does. Witness Brian Williams bowing to the messiah, or any of the fawning, over-the-top portrayals of comrade 0.
So, in the entire scheme of things, who's more honest, Fox or any of the alphabet networks? I know, hell, we all know what your answer will be.
Oh, and Lao, still waiting for your response on naming a single American Muslim praising Hasan for his actions. And waiting. And waiting.

Republicans Edge Ahead of Democrats in 2010 Vote

http://www.gallup.com/poll/124226/Republicans-Edge-Ahead-Democrats-2010-Vote.aspx

Pew poll: Anti-incumbent sentiment nears highest levels in two decades

http://hotair.com/archives/2009/11/11/pew-poll-anti-incumbent-sentiment-nears-highest-levels-in-two-decades/

This is where some moonbat starts parroting the collective line about Republicans marching towards irrelevancy.

Check this out – Soros is far worse than I'd ever suspected. What scum.

Coulter: Muslim 'victims' coddled again

Coulter then cites evidence of Maj. Hasan's jihad sympathies:

"According to numerous eyewitness accounts, Hasan denounced the 'war on terror' as a war against Islam, said Muslims should attack Americans in retaliation for the war in Iraq, defended suicide bombers and said he was 'happy' when a Muslim murdered a soldier at a military recruiting center in Arkansas earlier this year."

"Stranger still, he wasn't auditioning for his own show on MSNBC when he made these statements."

>That certainly suggests to me that he takes these charges seriously.

Right, which flies in the face of your claims of
"Does this deliberate deception call that motto into question for you"?
So they are going to address it, and most likely issue a retraction. Is this shit supposed to blow our mind? You act like this shit should knock our socks off like the scene with the sunglasses from the John Carpenter movie "They Live"
Oh! look at the propaganda!!! Fox News is Goebbels!! they had two pieces of footage spliced! Yawn.

Muslims should attack Americans in retaliation for the war in Iraq

And if we adopt the same logic...?

Sure xanti, and if CNN had spliced in footage from another demonstration to make the 9/12 demonstration look smaller, you would say exactly the same thing. Right?

Would anyone have noticed not a lot of people watching CNN anymore? Last time I heard CNN was rated last with Fox News #1.

:(

"Ghost of Wellstone at November 11, 2009 4:43 PM"

We forgot that Liberals insist that someone who repeats faulty information while believing it to be true (BUSH!) is a bald-faced lier.

You doofi (Plural of "doofus") have often repeated stuff about "global warming" several times, even after it was proved false. Therefor, you doofi are LIERS.

Hm.

What right-wingers are concerned about: The murder of 13 soldiers and an unborn infant by an Islamist radical; the MSM's failure to acknowledge same; the Army and FBI's unwillingess to connect the dots and avoid the tragedy.

What left-wingers are concerned about: Carrie Prejean's masturbation video and Hannity reusing video clips.

And some say the left is shallow and petty.

LOL!!! V the K. What open thread are you looking at?

Please list the times where anyone here talked about Prejean. I looked, I missed it.

Please list the times where anyone here talked about the MSM failure to acknowledge the Ft. Hood tragedy.

I looked, I missed it, unless you mean SK quoting Coulter.

I think you got confused. You were thinking about yesterday's Open Thread entitled "Priorities".

V the K Posts:

9:24 = The second post on Prejean claiming MSM using her as a distraction.
12:20 = Another post on Prejean.

Others on the right spent considerable time thereafter discussion Prejean.

At 5:01 I posted:
So in the day's Moonbattery Open Thread entitled "Priorities" we see that the biggest priority for the right is Ms Prejean and much loyal Mooning has attempted to cover (so to speak) her backside.

For the right, the memorial service at Ft Hood has not deserved any comment.

I understand the President delivered some remarks.

You can find a transcript here:

Obama at Ft. Hood

No one on the right said a word about Obama's speech or the memorial service itself.

Things were quiet after that until 8:03 when posters Anonymous Countermoonbat and xanti took up Prejean again for a ten post debate that lasted until 11.51.

Too, too funny, V the K.

Headlines that I see:

Official: Obama won't take any current war options (AP)
Sources: Reid eyes payroll tax hike on wealthy to finance health reform (AP)
Report: 10 states face looming budget disasters (AP)
5 men charged with sex crimes against children (AP)
Stench returns near Ohio property that held bodies (AP)

I felt bold for a moment! So, how is your dose of Moonbat Communism doing today??

Please explain why President Obama's comments at the Fort Hood memorial require any recognition? Please explain which sections of his speech sheds recognizes an act of Islamic terrorism committed on American soil? He did drop this funny:
"These are trying times for our country. In Afghanistan and Pakistan, the same extremists who killed nearly 3,000 Americans continue to endanger America" -- Yet he cannot decide to commit more troops, or propose an alternative strategy.

Is there an ongoing investigation that is looking into all the personal connections, motivations and influences that Hasan may, or may not have?

That's called "due process of law" and the government is subservient to it.

Some people here on the right have adopted a "give him a trial and hang him" attitude.

Obama, on the contrary, is obeying our laws.

As usual, our resident moonbat troll Lao is more concerned with meta-politics than the politics themselves.

A simple reading of open threads suggests that the topics most discussed are those which generate actual back-and-forth discussion - imagine that!

You should know, Lao. You are here to troll, err, I mean stimulate discussion. You should know full well that a report of Obamunists flushing another few billion down a pork barrel toilet will generate no discussion unless a moonbat shows up to defend it.

See: dog bites man vs. man bites dog.

Lao:
How long did it take him to announce race to be the issue between Dr. Gates and the arresting policeman ? You're full of shit moron.

^- me: Pasted incorrectly.

Cool, so by providing a good link to the Hannity tape splice story I stimulated discussion and I have stuck to that topic until the last half hour or so.

It was V the K who raised a completely bogus "what right wingers and left wingers are talking about here point" and I responded.

Some people here on the right have adopted a "give him a trial and hang him" attitude.

Since you haven't figured it out, "give him a trial and hang him" is not mutually exclusive of due process.

Due process is a deliberately slow procedural safeguard designed to protect innocent citizens from being on the receiving end of punishment.

Common sense is a remarkably versatile way to make responsive decisions and keep this nation safe.

The terrorist will have his due process in court, even though common sense tells us that this is clearly an act of jihad and must be responded to accordingly.

We don't have to wait for a court to state the patently obvious, then wait for another court to uphold the patently obvious, then wait for a third court to uphold the way the second court upheld the patently obvious, before deferring back to the first court to rule on something else patently obvious, thus beginning the cycle again.

Its the jihad, stupid.

I am shocked and outraged by the murder of Dr. George Tiller as he attended church services this morning. However profound our differences as Americans over difficult issues such as abortion, they cannot be resolved by heinous acts of violence.

Issued the same day of George Tillers murder, sure was quick on the motive being anti-abortion right?

And what did Obama say at the Ft. Hood memorial service?

"It may be hard to comprehend the twisted logic that led to this tragedy. But this much we do know — no faith justifies these murderous and craven acts; no just and loving God looks upon them with favor. For what he has done, we know that the killer will be met with justice — in this world, and the next."

"Since you haven't figured it out, "give him a trial and hang him" is not mutually exclusive of due process."

Come again?

Hasan is a "suspect" until he is tried and found guilty. Our laws work on the principle of innocent until proven guilty.

So he denied Islamic terrorism as motive - is this supposed to be news? What is your point exactly? Explain how President Obama can openly give motives of racism, and anti-abortion when it suits his leftist world view - but when a Islamic soldier kills his fellow soldiers, after shouting "Allah Akbar" after giving away his property and the Koran to his neighbors he is oddly stumped?

Lao, so what's your point? Most likely scenario is some intern spliced together the story and needs to learn not to do that. Least likely scenario is someone who should know better and isn't an intern used footage and committed a minor deception. Also possible is that it was just a mistake. Are you going to post 50 more times on this? It was a good catch by Stewart, but my wife caught it the previous day. We were at the rally, and when we saw the coverage on Fox, she said, hm, that looks like footage from 9/12, which we were also at. File it as case # 915,299,418,623,904,315 of the media taking liberties in the editing room to make a point. This gets no more than a "whatever".

You don't think CNN and MSNBC do that shit 100 times a day to make whatever point they're trying to make? Who cares?

Anyone remember when all the left websites were claiming James von Brunn was a right wing terrorist because of books wrote by Hannity, Beck and Rush on his bookshelf allegedly? My, how views change suddenly.

Hasan is a "suspect" until he is tried and found guilty. Our laws work on the principle of innocent until proven guilty.

In court, Hasan is a suspect until proven guilty. Why? Because courts can punish people, so we choose to restrain them until guilt has been demonstrated beyond a reasonable doubt.

We are not in court. Let me repeat that.

We. Are. Not. In. Court.

Understand?

Since we are not in court (have you figured that out, yet?) we can come to obvious conclusions about what "Allahu Akbar" followed by a hail of bullets means without holding nine evidentiary hearings. We can determine that an unhinged Islamist presentation is actually unhinged without flying in seventeen witnesses to make sure it was he who actually gave it.

If common-sense policy making moved at the speed of justice, nothing will ever get done. Of course, your side doesn't want to admit this, since it means admitting that PC was responsible for fourteen needless deaths. Your side would prefer to wait to judge Hasan's motives until the courts have finished fighting over what gauge of rope is constitutional.

Anyone remember when all the left websites were claiming James von Brunn was a right wing terrorist because of books wrote by Hannity, Beck and Rush on his bookshelf allegedly? My, how views change suddenly.

Anyone remember how the left websites are still claiming that Bush/Cheney are guilty of war crimes, blowing up the Twin Towers, and virtually every other evil in the world completely beyond the reach of any, eventual proof?

I think I understand how this works -

Jihadi caught killing red-handed: Deserves Due Process

Political opponent blamed for things which are beyond proof: GUILTY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"Racism" can be an individual motivation.

"Anti-abortionist" can be an individual motivation.

"Terrorism" can be an individual motivation.

"Islamic terrorism", ties that person to a religious group in the same way that "Christian racist" or "Christian anti-abortionist" would.

It was actually the Knoxville church shooter who deliberately targeted liberals who had books by Hannity, Savage and O'Reilly, among others.

Ma href="http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/prof_busted_in_columbia_gal_punch_JmsXQ3NzaAt8uG6uUySGTN">Tolerant Liberal Black Professor Punches Woman In Face Over Disagreement

A prominent Columbia architecture professor punched a female university employee in the face at a Harlem bar during a heated argument about race relations, cops said yesterday.

Police busted Lionel McIntyre, 59, for assault yesterday after his bruised victim, Camille Davis, filed charges.

McIntyre and Davis, who works as a production manager in the school's theater department, are both regulars at Toast, a popular university bar on Broadway and 125th Street, sources said.

The professor, who is black, had been engaged in a fiery discussion about "white privilege" with Davis, who is white, and another male regular, who is also white, Friday night at 10:30 when fists started flying, patrons said.

Any time someone yells "Allahu Akbar" and opens fire on people, it's Islamic terrorism.

Lao:
So who do you rush to blame when someone shoots an abortion doctor? Terrorists? or "pro-lifers"?

So tell us, was 9/11 Islamic terrorism Lao? or was it individual terrorism ? Is this the idiotic loops you want to try jump through?

Tolerant Liberal Black Professor Punches Woman In Face Over Disagreement

Fixed.

Right. We are not in court.

Right. You can leap to whatever conclusions re Hasan that you want.

However, expecting Obama to leap to those same conclusions and dissing him when he doesn't is pure ignorance.

>Lao at November 11, 2009 8:46 PM
Yes, because the left only ever linked one person to terrorism because of his book reading choice - try Google sometime. You can see discussion of Von Brunns books and motives attributed to being "rightwing"

Re Dr. Tiller, the guy who is accused appeared to act alone although he did have a phone number for an Operation Rescue staffer on his dashboard when he was arrested. I have not heard that any direct connection to anyone else has been made. He has demonstrated strong anti-abortion views in the past.

Did virulent anti-abortion rhetoric and anti-Tiller broadcasts on mainstream media make Tiller a specific target that a lone wolf killer acted on? Yes.

9/11 was masterminded and carried out by agents of Al Qaeda so far as I know. Al Qaeda is a radical Islamist organization.

xanti I think you might be mixed up. Von Brunn, the Holocaust museum shooter, wrote his own books. I have not seen reference to books by right wing authors owned by him. Please provide a link if you have one.

The anti-liberal Knoxville shooter however, did have books by right wing authors.

Knoxville

Re Dr. Tiller, the guy who is accused appeared to act alone although he did have a phone number for an Operation Rescue staffer on his dashboard when he was arrested. I have not heard that any direct connection to anyone else has been made. He has demonstrated strong anti-abortion views in the past.

Weasel words, Here's your phrase re-written for Hassan:
Hassan, the guy who is accused appeared to act alone although he did attempt communication with Al-Qaeda in the past. I have not heard any direct connection to anyone else has been made. He has demonstrated strong Islamic Jihadest views in the past.

Did virulent anti-abortion rhetoric and anti-Tiller broadcasts on mainstream media make Tiller a specific target that a lone wolf killer acted on? Yes.

I quoted President Obama's reaction not the media - please keep up.

9/11 was masterminded and carried out by agents of Al Qaeda so far as I know.

There is some doubt in your mind Lao, what are you an idiot,or a truther?

HYUK,HYUK,HYUK, SQUAWK SQUAWK SQUAWK MOONBAT ECO-FREAKS LYING AWAKE AT NIGHT HEARING THE SCREAMS OF RAINFOREST TREES WHEN THEIR CHOPPED DOWN OR HEARING THE WHALES AND QUETZALS GOING NEENER,NEENER,NEENER,YOUR A SILLY GREEN WEENIER SQUAWK SQUAWK SQUAWK HYUK,HYUK,HYUK,

Re Al Qaeda first, the so-called "mastermind" of 9/11 Khalid Sheikh Mohammed has yet to be tried. I imagine that a bunch of evidence that we are currently unaware of will be revealed and that may include connections beyond Al Qaeda.

Re the "truthers" I think they are flakes.

The guy accused of murdering Dr. Tiller is awaiting trial. Once again, I expect we will learn more.

You want to alter my words to apply to Hasan. Ok. So? Hasan will also go to trial.

Do you think evidence against any of the above is being suppressed?

Lao:
Your disingenuous argument that someone has to be tried, and found guilty before you can assume anything is a lie, you do not believe that at all. it iss a self-serving lie you're trying to pull.

So is there something that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed is going to expand on that will confirm it was Al-Qaeda for you? other than say:
Bin Laden X2 video tape claiming responsibility
X2 of the 9/11 attackers video tapes with Bin Laden
KSM confession
Al-Libby confession?

Beyond Al-Qaeda? seriously? I can't believe I even engaged you in debate. wtf. Next?

Had to pop out to take note of my name being highjacked, multiple times, on threads I have not contributed to.

If you like the notion of debate with a known entity, even if you virulently disagree with me, then I hope you will oppose name highjacking.

Failing that, I can always become anonymous again.

So, If you see a post from "Lao" that seems out of character, it's likely the highjacker at work.

xanti, you and I and everyone else can leap to whatever assumptions we want. They remain assumptions.

With regards Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and Al Qaeda, who knows? Would it interest you at all if, just to toss out something fabricated, the Saudi royal family was implicated in some fashion?

You may be absolutely right and all the information you noted covers the whole story.

However, I will be interested to see if any new information gets revealed in the trial.

Here is what I personally believe. Although there is no hard proof, I feel that evidence of this will come out during the trial.

Government Insider Says Bush Authorized 911 Attacks
http://www.rense.com/general57/aale.htm

9:40 is the name highjacker.

No, that was really me. I don't know why I fight it. It has to be what is called troll's remorse.

9:44 name highjacker, obviously.

Pay attention to MEEEEEEE! I post over and over on a blog I hate with people I despise simply because I must have your attention!

9:50 name highjacker.

Now, I have other work to attend to. Night night.

One last post to wrap an earlier thread:

Hannity's apology:

HANNITY: Finally tonight...Although it pains me to say this, Jon Stewart, Comedy Central - he was right.

Now, on his program last night he mentioned that we had played some incorrect video on this program last week while talking about the Republican Health Care rally on Capitol Hill.
He was correct, we screwed up - we aired some video of a rally in September, along with a video from the actual event. It was an inadvertent mistake, but a mistake nonetheless. So Mr. Stewart, you were right… we apologize… and by the way, I want to thank you, and all your writers, for watching.
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"Inadvertent". Uh-huh, that 9/12 video tape just "happened" to end up in the same pile as the tape they took that very day.

LOL! Now it really is, night, night.

Muhammed Bites the Dust

The “Beltway Sniper” is no longer with us. Nor are the 10 innocent people John Allen Muhammed chose to eliminate from the face of the Earth seven years ago.

As has been pointed out, Muhammed had the opportunity to bid his final farewells to those near and dear to him.

His slain victims, at best, were able to say things like, “Bye, I’m going out shopping/to work/to visit Aunt Milly,” and that was about it. They never returned. The three who survived the shootings were luckier and only have to live the rest of their lives with the memories.

Just over 24 hours ago, denied a final mercy and as hand-wringers over capital punishment were in full force . . .

(Read the rest at http://www.genelalor.com/blog1/?p=1320)

I will miss John Muhammad. He was atrue American hero.

Obama's Veterans Day Speech At Arlington National Cemetary

Ditherer-in-Chief honors our Veterans

http://hotairpundit.blogspot.com/2009/11/obamas-veterans-day-speech-at-arlington.html

Someone doesn't understand how weed works.....