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November 4, 2009
Oh, The Ironing!
Posted by Gregory of Yardale at November 4, 2009 9:45 AM

The same day his party got shellacked in Virginia and New Jersey, and the two candidates he campaigned heavily for lost big-time, the Obama White House was hosting contestants from an NBC program called The Biggest Loser.
The White House is trying to spin the NY-23 race as having national significance, but the NJ and VA races as being "just local." They had nothing to do whatsoever with Obama. They want you to forget you ever saw these Corzine billboards:

And forget this Creigh Deeds mailer sent to hundreds of thousands of Virginia voters.

Given that two of my three predictions were wrong, it's safe to say I suck at analysis. Which is actually good news because I don't see the Republicans taking the House next year, and I can see Chairman Zero handily winning re-election. I'd only say all three races - NJ, VA, and NY-23 - have lessons in them for Republicans. 1. Connect conservative positions to practical policies that solve problems. 2. Choose candidates that appeal to the base.
And maybe there's a lesson for Democrats, too. Campaigns based on scorched Earth and personal attacks don't always work, even when you have the Washington Post to carry the water for you (Creigh Deeds) or spend tens of millions of dollars on ads that attack your opponent for being fat (Jon Corzine). I note that a scorched Earth campaign based on spending millions on attack ads is precisely what Harry Reid is promising next year.
One more thing, Rasmussen, the pollster the progressive left hates and calls a Republican tool, was the only pollster to call New Jersey accurately. He nailed it!
Comments
If Obama spent as much time leading the nation as he has spent campaigning for himself and other (loosers) to date,...
...then I'd be upset, since he'd have been able to do even more damage to the USA.
Posted by: The MaryHunter at November 4, 2009 10:10 AM
Governors don't get a vote on Obama policy, the new Democratic member of the House for NY 23 will, hence local vs national.
I confess I'm surprised to see you admit that Obama will "handily" win re-election in three years. Given the choices offered by the current field who might line up against him, I think you are correct.
Unlike NY 23, I would like to see a contest where a certified, appeal-to-the-base conservative goes up against a Democrat in a middle-of-the-road swing state. You seem to believe the conservative would have a chance. I highly doubt it.
Posted by: Lao at November 4, 2009 10:13 AM
Yeah I dont make many predictions myself, unless of course im betting money, because for one, people will just think your a know it all, secondly we are usually wrong lol
Posted by: Anonymous at November 4, 2009 10:48 AM
Hoffman would have won if only Obama had campaigned for the Democrat in NY23 like he did for Deeds and Corzine!
Posted by: First Name WARREN - Last Name PEACE !! at November 4, 2009 10:49 AM
i LOVE the second poster!!!!!!!!!!!
anyone else notice that
hope
opportunity
change
spells HOC
as in ad hoc
as in we are in hock...
Posted by: Artfldgr at November 4, 2009 10:50 AM
Lao, Governors are the state party leaders. Governors pick interim Senators (and presumably Congressfolk) when an incumbent is tapped for a czar position, is arrested for corruption, dies, etc. Governors raise lots of money for statewide candidates, usually in their own parties. Governors have the power of the soap box. Governors have a veto pen to at least stalemate liberal Democrat state legislatures.
Governors are tres important, which is why Obama spent so much of his political capital (and taxpayer money) in New Jersey and (for awhile) in Virginia.
Posted by: pomalom at November 4, 2009 10:53 AM
Yup. This loss is BIG.
Rush: "Dems losing in New Jersey is like Stalin losing in Moscow. ... It's like Ted Kennedy losing in Massachusetts. ... And to say this was not about Obama? Last night could have been Obama's Waterloo."
The liberal spin over this pummeling of The ObamaNation far out-dizzies any possible GOP spin over NY 23rd. And, the GOP deserves to look stoooopid over NY 23rd.
Posted by: pomalom at November 4, 2009 10:57 AM
pomalom, it's also important that Republicans will be in charge of redistricting in Virginia after the 2010 census. There are a couple of very weak Democrat districts that could be flipped in Virginia pretty easily.
Posted by: V the K at November 4, 2009 10:58 AM
Please, oh please, Community Organizer in Chief, please come campaign for Barbara Boxer next year. We patriotic Californians (yes, there are some) really need your help to kick her ass out of office.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at November 4, 2009 11:29 AM
hey, how did that gay vote in Maine turn out?
Posted by: blue at November 4, 2009 11:40 AM
Blue, shhhh. Lao and Ghost of Heidi Fleiss are still crying their eyes out. No wedding bells for those two. Always a bridesmaid, never a bride, and all that.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at November 4, 2009 12:04 PM
Btw, Maine's homosexual marriage law was repealed by a larger margin than Soetoro won by last year. Was that a landslide? Then so was this.
Actually, the same is true of the victories of Christie and McDonnell.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at November 4, 2009 12:20 PM
Gregory,
You have let your despondency take over.
SAY not the struggle naught availeth,
The labour and the wounds are vain,
The enemy faints not, nor faileth,
And as things have been they remain.
If hopes were dupes, fears may be liars;
It may be, in yon smoke conceal'd,
Your comrades chase e'en now the fliers,
And, BUT FOR YOU, possess the field.
For while the tired waves, vainly breaking,
Seem here no painful inch to gain,
Far back, through creeks and inlets making,
Comes silent, flooding in, the main.
Posted by: Jim at November 4, 2009 12:24 PM
Hey Libtards! What kind of spin are you idiots going to put on this?
A taste of thing yet to come.
We will win in 2010.
Posted by: Dave at November 4, 2009 12:31 PM
Hope and change next year hope we get a lot of conservatives and they change the direction the country is going
Posted by: SPURWING PLOVER at November 4, 2009 12:56 PM
Bet you did guess if The One's hand picked candidates didn't win he would be out the next day doing his best to minimize HIS FAILURES again...and claiming he wasn't paying attention to any of the races.
Posted by: TED at November 4, 2009 3:18 PM
And how about the utter epic fail of the conservatives in New York?
All their top guns backed up Hoffman and what did he get for his money, their money and their endorsements?
Good move, push out the moderate Republican who could have taken the seat and support a guy who was too extreme, even for a Republican district.
Posted by: Lao at November 4, 2009 3:29 PM
Posted by: Anonymous at November 4, 2009 3:29 PM
Yea right......a moderate republican.
Posted by: Dave at November 4, 2009 3:35 PM
Lao is still pushing the same tired crap he was trying to push in the Morning Briefs.
As if a gal who supports highers taxes, lavish public spending, the $787 Billion spendulus, abortion-on-demand, gay marriage, card check, and cap and trade is "moderate." Can anyone point to an issue on which she wasn't a doctrinaire liberal?
Posted by: V the K at November 4, 2009 3:46 PM
And how about the utter epic fail of the conservatives in New York?
You dip shit libs will harp on the smallest of things when shown the big picture. Face asshole libtards you have just been put on notice. 2010 will be a tough year for all you socialist pigs.
I can't wait!
Posted by: Dave at November 4, 2009 3:46 PM
Posted by: V the K at November 4, 2009 3:46 PM
Some points by Malkin to consider...
As I pointed out in my Oct. 16 column, there was never anything moderate about Scozzafava. There was no fiscal conservatism to balance her social radicalism. It wasn't merely that she was "pro-choice." She was also a proud recipient of a pro-abortion award named after eugenicist Margaret Sanger.
It wasn't merely that she favored higher government spending. It was also that she supported the stimulus, which every single House
Republican in office opposed, on top of her support for the union-expanding card-check bill, on top of her ambiguous statements on the energy tax-imposing cap-and-trade bill.
Newt Gingrich, who foolishly stood with Scozzafava until she threw herself under the bus over the weekend, piously invoked Reagan and condemned the extreme "purism" of unruly conservatives who wouldn't keep quiet about Scozzafava's radical-left agenda.
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Conservatives owe NY-23 candidate Doug Hoffman immeasurable gratitude. He overcame impossible odds (single digits just a month ago) to come within two points of defeating Democrat Bill Owens. Hoffman had zero name recognition. National Republican Party officials dumped nearly $1 million into the race on behalf of radical leftist GOP candidate Dede Scozzafava, who then turned around, endorsed Owens and siphoned off 5 percent of the vote with her name still on the ballot after she dropped out.
Posted by: SK at November 4, 2009 3:57 PM
So call her an out and out liberal. What does that prove?
Owens won 50 to 45 and the "other liberal" took 5%. In other words, the "liberals" split the vote and STILL beat the conservative. If Scozzafava had not been on the ballot it would have been Owens 55 to 45.
Posted by: Lao at November 4, 2009 4:01 PM
Lao is STILL whining and detatched from reality.
That's right!
He/she is a liberal.
Posted by: SK at November 4, 2009 4:04 PM
I'm detached from the REALITY of the conservative loss in NY 23?
Oh my!
Posted by: Lao at November 4, 2009 4:11 PM
Lao can't seem to understand that the dems threw so much money in this particular election and had Obama pitching for him yet he won by a small margin. No socialist mandate here.
Liberals are such dipshits.
Posted by: Dave at November 4, 2009 4:12 PM
@Lao
you're an idiot
"And how about the utter epic fail of the conservatives in New York?
All their top guns backed up Hoffman and what did he get for his money, their money and their endorsements?
"Good move, push out the moderate Republican who could have taken the seat and support a guy who was too extreme, even for a Republican district."
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DeDe was no *moderate* Republican. She was the worst kind of RINO there is, a "far left Democrat". The Democrat candidate was a magnatude more conservative than DeDe. Hoffman entered the race 30 days before the election with zero name recognition and no money or support from anyone. Yet he came within 5 percentage points of defeating a heavily funded conservative Democrat and forced the "moderate" Republican (RINO) to withdraw from the race.
If the Race would have been between Owens and Dede, I would have voted for Owens and I'm a hard core conservative. That's HOW BAD DeDe was! Hoffman made a serious showing. If he would have recieved the 900K that DeDe did there would have been a different outcome. Of course, the NRCC has egg on their face today. As they should. Idiots!
Posted by: FreeWillie at November 4, 2009 5:46 PM
Thanks for agreeing with the point that I made earlier:
Owens won 50 to 45 and the "other liberal" took 5%. In other words, the "liberals" split the vote and STILL beat the conservative. If Scozzafava had not been on the ballot it would have been Owens 55 to 45.
Posted by: Lao at November 4, 2009 5:53 PM
If Scozzafava weren't on the ballot, those Republicans with fierce party loyalty would have had to vote on conscience, instead of a letter after a name.
If Scozzafava weren't on the ballot, then uninformed voters who simply looked to choose the Republican out of economic concerns would have had to educate themselves as to the positions of the candidates before casting a reflex vote.
If ACORN didn't have ground troops in the 23rd, Owens' victory wouldn't have included nearly as many questionable absentee ballots.
Lao, you seem to have come down with an advanced case of moonbattery. Seek help, preferably from a competent, private-sector doctor.
Posted by: Anonymous Countermoonbat at November 4, 2009 6:35 PM
And what's more, NY23 elected a Democrat dogcatcher!
Posted by: Lao at November 4, 2009 6:46 PM
Congrats to Gov.'s (elect) McDonnell and Christie, but the man who can hold his head up highest of all is Doug Hoffman, who came from out-of-nowhere to nearly defeat yet another moron Liberal (TWO of 'em, in fact!).
Oh, and sorry 'bout that, Dems, but Owens will have to run again in just one short year (Oh, the humanity!). Put Hoffman up 'agin Owens in 2010, without the ultra-lib "Repubic" Scuzzy-face to muck things up, and it won't even be close. Enjoy NY23 while you've got it, Dhimmis!
Posted by: jc14 at November 4, 2009 6:57 PM
As if a gal who supports highers taxes, lavish public spending, the $787 Billion spendulus, abortion-on-demand, gay marriage, card check, and cap and trade is "moderate." Can anyone point to an issue on which she wasn't a doctrinaire liberal?
So she was, in some ways, more radical than george mcgovern?
Posted by: Scaramouche at November 4, 2009 8:44 PM
The two candidates he campaigned heavily for lost big-time ....
Well. Surely it MUST be George W Bush's fault. Give the spin-doctors time. They'll think of a way to pin it on him.
Posted by: Title of Liberty at November 4, 2009 11:46 PM


