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And this is the same party that hollyweird ding-bat JULIA ROBERTS said was OF THE PEOPLE,BY THE PEOPLE,FOR THE PEOPLE comming from some hollyweed wacko hooked on dope and booze

Just shows ya that you have to keep saving the precious metals, brass and lead.

As far as buying gold goes, remember what FDR did - made private ownership of gold illegal. ObaMAO would probably outlaw silver and platinum too.

The govt can't enforce immigration law, but they can require and enforce participation in health plans?

What will they do with illegal immigrants with respect to this law? If illegals will be included in the public plan (which Obama said would not happen), then they are the freeloaders Obama warns us about. They don't pay, but they benefit from free care in the emergency room.

If illegals are included in the public plan, then he will prove himself a liar, and have the difficult problem of enforcing the law among a group that is not real fond of regulation.

OOPS. I meant to say "if illegals WON'T be included in the public plan, then they are the freeloaders..."

ObaMAO will get around the illegals getting health insurance by declaring an amnesty and declaring all illegals are now US citizens. Presto chango - 2 problems solved at the same time. At least in his mind.

I am confused. They are worried about future freeloaders while trying to help the current freeloaders?

Bad Robot, I suspect you're right about amnesty. Then what? Illegals are not big on participating legally. That's a big group of scofflaws to suddenly bring on to the health care books.

I suppose enforcement of participation will be very selective. Since dems want to claim the illegal vote they've been courting, we won't see any enforcement there.

As far as buying gold goes, remember what FDR did - made private ownership of gold illegal. ObaMAO would probably outlaw silver and platinum too.

Posted by: Bad Robot! at November 12, 2009 8:53 AM

Will there be an exception for gold teeth?

Gold teeth/fillings will be removed during your mandatory annual health checkup under ObamaCare and replaced with teeth made of that stuff they make the Golden Dollars out of.

My understanding is that illegal aliens, ahem, excuse me, "undocumented guests" are specifically excluded from the mandatory purchase and any subsequent penalties for noncompliance. It is an expected feature that they will free ride.

After all, it would far too invasive and insensitive to actually inquire about someone's legal status and expect them to abide by the same laws as citizens.

Maybe they can explain the jump from their previous hysteria about people being denied healthcare for lack of insurance to these same people suddenly becoming freeriders. First they're benig denied medical care, now they're getting it for free. Which is it, Mr. Prez?

chunkstyle

Don't you know it is rude to ask guests too many questions and expect them to contribute. Guests should be able to relax and not worry about anything, we should be more concerned about their comfort not ours.

Let the riots and shooting begin! By the way does anyone here know what it is called when the USA has 2 or more consecutive quarters of no to negative growth with a growing unemployment rate? The Government insists that we are in a mere recession but if you know anything well the truth is that the last time the USA was in a DEPRESSION the government also LIED.

Good luck to you all in what little time we have before the blood bath (Communist Purge) starts in earnest!

They better start opening up those jail cells filled with mary jane smokers and sellers because I foresee a huge influx of non-paying-for-health-care-criminals filling up the justice system. Myself being one of the first, as I haven't used, or purchased health insurance since it screwed me over the last time I used it ten years ago(the only time in my life I ever used it).

Here's an idea, how about jail time for people that conspire to use public elected office as a means to fleece the American public while lying about their true purposes and that conspire to use the legislative power of their elected offices to destroy the country.

The ONLY Democrat I've ever seen with values...

Marbury v. Madison, 5 US 137
“The Constitution of these United States is the supreme law of the land. Any law that is repugnant to the Constitution is null and void of law.”

Murdock v. Penn., 319 US 105
“No state shall convert a liberty into a privilege, license it, and attach a fee to it.”

Shuttlesworth v. Birmingham, 373 US 262
“If the state converts a liberty into a privilege, the citizen can engage in the right with impunity.”

Miranda v. Arizona, 384 U.S. 436
“Where rights secured by the Constitution are involved, there can be no rule making or legislation, which would abrogate them.”

Norton v. Shelby County, 118 U.S. 425
“An unconstitutional act is not law; it confers no rights; it imposes no duties; affords no protection; it creates no office; it is in legal contemplation, as inoperative as though it had never been passed.”

Miller v. U.S., 230 F.2d. 486, 489
“The claim and exercise of a Constitutional right cannot be converted into a crime.”

Alpha, You might want to let the supreme court, the congress and the idiot in the white house know about these cases since just about everything they have done violates those rulings.

Most of what congress has done for the last 50 years is in direct violation of constitutional power or rules.