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Heck, who needs death panels if you're already dead before diagnosed?

The "gub'ment" is just trying to get us accustomed now to the lack of health care....Get used to it now!!
I wonder if they are making any exceptions for women with a family history of breast cancer?

I also wonder about other cancer screenings?

Not a single oncologist on that panel.

They will fight tooth and nail to call it anything but a death panel. Doing so would prove Palin right and at this time the Liberals would do anything to avoid that. They will be called "Compassion panels", "Life Comissions", "Gaia Counsel", "Carbon Senate", whatever you want but never a death panel, even when it will praise saving costs by killing off the sick.

A panel by any other name would STILL be a DEATH Panel!

When a tiny group of people decide how much will be spent on medical services, somebody's going to die for lack of same. That, boys and girls, is a DEATH PANEL....No if, ands, or buts about it.

The correct term would be: UNLIFE PANEL

You guys have it all wrong. Death isn't an ending. . . it's just a "Progressive" thingy.

JustAl, you got it right. It'll be named "Progressive Panels"!

America is on the lookout for death panels, so we can expect them to disappear and be re-formed in an even more dishonest fashion.

A group of bureaucrats making these decisions to save money is a fairly straightforward way to reduce costs at the expense of the people who become victims of it. That is easy for pundits to identify and call out.

The same result can be achieved through more confusing and less transparent bureaucracy.

If a progressive think tank pre-determines what will be spent based on estimates of planned shrinkage they never have to discuss publicly, then the statists can, in pure Soviet style, establish "life panels" to give "extra priority" to some citizens.

The dishonesty comes in when you consider that, under such a system, everybody is screwed until a bureaucrat un-screws you. Rather than having death panels, in which everybody is saved until a bureaucrat determines otherwise, the life panels will be reflective of a system in which everyone is doomed until a bureaucrat saves them.

That is the goal of those who seek power and control. They don't want to be in the health care business - they simply want to reduce you to something between a grown child and a piece of property that has to come begging and groveling to government for a solution to a problem that government created in the first place.

Yet another reason for Oceania to be at war with East Asia - they banned OBA MAO shirts.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/11/16/AR2009111601249.html?g=0

"Liu Mingjie learned the latter lesson. He is the designer and entrepreneur behind the popular "Oba Mao" image, which takes a silk-screen likeness of Obama and dresses him in a green jacket and cap to resemble the late Communist leader Mao Zedong. "

Bureaucracy doesn't have to even be so overtly sinister in order to spread much misery among those forced into a socialized system.

If the government simply put a bureaucrat between patients and MRI machines, supposedly to stop MRI overuse / defensive medicine, then every procedure or diagnosis requiring an MRI is now bottlenecked or rationed by bureaucracy.

After all, you aren't being "denied" your fancy, expensive, life-saving treatment if your doctor won't perform it because he can't run the diagnostics needed as part of his commitment to professional competence. The government can then claim it would have paid for the lifesaving treatment, but there simply "wasn't enough time" - because they created a strategic bottleneck.

The system only needs a few strategic bottlenecks to completely choke off many, many treatments.

Think of it like a highway system. You could clog up and shut down an entire city by closing a few strategic exits on a never-ending pork barrel construction project.

My wife's breast cancer was discovered when she was 48,so much for what those fuckers know. Believe me if this healthcare crap passes and one of my family dies because of it I will personally be paying back whoever I need to.

How long ago was it when Pelosi and Clinton were making noises about "women's special health needs" then mandating the insurance companies cover annual mammograms? Anyone have any recollections on that?

What exactly is the right calling the rnc "end of life counseling" in their reform plan?

Wellstoned, you ignorant slut. The difference between "end of life" counseling and a government death panel is explained in the post, you ass.

Doug, those are political whores. I'm sorry but that's the exact term. Obama is a political whore too, as they spouted whatever they needed to say during the campaign time but it was worth nothing once in office.

Actually what was stated by the right as death panels was end of life counseling, which is and always has been included in the democratic bills. Concerning the mammograms, the reports are varied, and none have stated anything about costs, but unnecessary testing, like those that are done every six months. Also, in the democratic bill is not allowing insurance companies to drop someone for a pre-existing conditions.

Democrats have a VERY long history of wanting to put people that know absolutely nothing about the subject in charge of it. Look at THEIR current president...

No mammograms? No self-exams? Which is the party of "hurry up and die" again?! Really, really ignorant.

Actually what was stated by the right as death panels was end of life counseling, which is and always has been included in the democratic bills.

Yes, those were the original death panels that drew concern.

No, those are not the current panels of concern. They have been eclipsed by the bureaucrat-infested utilization/approval panels that are the health care equivalent of planned shrinkage.

End of life counseling ceased to be the primary concern once the left passed funding for NHS-style utilization panels, along with a built-in override system. Shrill moonbats like Ezekiel Emanuel have been pushing for bureaucratic gatekeepers for all but the most routine of services for decades now - they are finally seeing their dream materialize.

You can stop me from doing a self-breast exam when you peel my cold, dead hands off them!!!!

This just in: Bill Clinton appointed mammogram czar, generously offers to donate his services to taxpayers, free of charge.

Frankly, I just want as many conservatives to die as possible. The older voters tend to vote more conservative and that is really getting in the way of our plans.

America is on the lookout for death panels, so we can expect them to disappear and be re-formed in an even more dishonest fashion.

Posted by: Anonymous Countermoonbat at November 17, 2009 12:13 PM

Be on the lookout for this too:

America is on the lookout for death panels ACORN, so we can expect them to disappear and be re-formed in an even more dishonest fashion.

RE: Posted by: Ghost of Wellstone at November 17, 2009 3:56 PM

That has GOT to be the infamous "Name Jacker" - the REAL Kyle / GoW would never be that honest with himself, let alone us!

Can anybody here help an American who's down on his/her luck.
What THE HELL is preventive medicine for?