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The "reviewer" better have their recommendation papers in order...

So this is one of the "green" jobs we were promised?

Well, the New York Slimes is laying off plenty of them who are seeking work. Maybe they can join the staff of the Daily Worker or that rag.

Ah, a classic example of conservative social control.

Marijuana causes less fatalities then alcohol or tobacco. It causes far less long term negative health effects then alcohol and tobacco. Among the people I've known in my life three have died from alcohol, two from smoking, and zero from pot. Having known both alcoholics and potheads in my time, I would rate the potheads as nicer, more responsible, and less self-destructive.

Where do you guys get off forbidding people from enjoying a relatively innocuous substance?

Better then that, there is evidence that marijuana can be an effective treatment for nausea. We have plenty of more dangerous drugs that are regulated to prescription status, why not this one? Why ban it completely?

(No, not speaking from self-interest. Being the rebel in my family means not drinking, not smoking, and not swearing.)

hyg, where in the article exactly does it call for banning? We're just poking fun at the job. Is anyone banging their fist on the table, yelling "I DEMAND WE BAN ALL MIND ALTERING SUBSTANCES!!!!" No.

I'm conservative and I don't want to control you. I don't have a dog in the fight on pot. I can see both sides quite clearly. I think most of us here are "leave me the hell alone" conservatives. It would apply to you, too.

The logic of liberal journalists noone should have a gun but everybody is intitled in free pot and free needle exchanges

Half of the wastoid potheads I knew in highschool are either dead, in jail, or in mental hospitals. The other half are working at Jiffy Lube and Mickey D's where they have that glazed look in their eyes and keep saying "Whazup dude..."

I was quite surprised to see a piece in my local leftist paper featuring a profile of a 'Reverend'. Then I read on... The good Rev. heads the THC Ministry and refers to marijuana as the "botanical Messiah." He offers cannabis sacrament - in edible, smokable and tincture form - in a religious ceremony that he says is Biblical: "... anywhere that they say anointment or oil or smoking or rolling tiny scrolls..."

"The THC Ministry believes that the cultivation and enjoyment of cannabis sacrament is a fundamental human right provided by God. When you consume the sacrament, it takes you to a higher level. It just puts you in a different realm, spiritually. That's when I do a lot of my prayers and meditations."

Duuuude.

dude it's in the bible.

And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.

And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

Genesis 1:11-12

There is the long-held aruguement of marijuana "being the only effective treatment for nausea caused by......(fill in with whatever here). There is a prescription medicine called Zofran. It was developed to counteract nausea experieced by chemotherapy patients. It is an antiemetic used for many nauesa/vomiting purposes. About three perhaps four years ago, I got waaaaaay sick from either a bacterial or viral gastrointestinal illness that landed me in the emergency room (on vacation, I might add.) A few milligrams of Zofran in 1000 milliliters of saline solution on an intervenous drip and I was rehydrated and felt much better. No pot smoking was necessary.

I imagine Westword is searching high (first HAR!) and low for a job applicants. Pot stores are sprouting, like, well, weeds (second HAR!)throughout Colorado. Brings whole new meaning to Rocky Mountain High (third HAR!).

As for "God put marijuna on the Earth for us to use....." Well, he put coca leaves on the Earth too, should we all become cocaine additcts? He put poppies on the Earth too, should we all become opium or heroin addicts? Ricin, from castor beans is one of the most poisonous substances on Earth. Should all of us, poison ourselves, because God put it on Earth?

Just, puttin' in my two cents.

Jimmy Hendricks, Janace Joplin used drugs AND THEIR DEAD JIM

Zofran doesn't work for everyone. Coca is used by locals as a mild and harmless stimulant (which it is before being refined). Opiates are the most effective anti-pain medications in the world.

With any drug there's an issue of use vs abuse. What I'm saying is, the abuse potential of marijuana is far lower then many of the legal drugs we have.

Posted by: Karin at October 21, 2009 11:58 AM

I'll put us both down as pro-legalization (or at least anti-illegalization) then. Happy to compromise with a reasonable person such as yourself.

Hey you guys: Zofran does't work everyone. Yes, it probably doesn't, Does pot work for everyone?? Well, does it? You made the statement, now prove it. How about several randomized, placebo controlled, clinical trials, the results of which comparing the two, have been published in peer reviewed medical journals, not High Times.

Coca is used by locals....I won't ask and you need not tell me where you live!

"The abuse potential of marijuana is far lower then many of the legal drugs we have." Once again, prove it. The mantra used to be..."no has ever been harmed from smoking pot." When that proved to be based on emotion and not fact, the mantra became "no one has ever died of an overdose of marijuana." Well, that's a stretch...probably some but not total truth to that, but that's like saying marriage is the leading cause of divorce. If a person smokes a big fatty and then falls asleep, that's one thing. But if a person smokes a big fatty, gets hungry, and drives to the 7-11 for a quarter pounder hot dog, blows a red light and plows into a car with a mom and two kids inside, that's abuse, not recreational use or medical use, but abuse, because it harmed someone else.

So, bottom line for me, if people wish to smoke pot for medical purposes, just be way careful. Think about what harm it can bring if not used wisely and carefully. I don't believe pot is the panacea its trumped up to be. One store where I live advertises "our doctors make house calls and we have same day delivery." I think a little control is a good idea. In Colorado, some towns have placed temporary moritoriums on dispensaries until the city councils and citzens can have a say in how many such dispensaries are needed and in what parts of town, they are located etc. Not preventing them going into business, or putting them out of business, but a little control, just like liquor stores.

And yes, with any drug, legal or not, there is the potential for abuse that goes beyond the person abusing it. Fentanyl (or however it's spelled) is powerful opiate. It served me well for an outpatient medical procedure. This past summer a Denver area nurse, with a history of drug abuse, at other medical facilities, slipped through hiring cracks, and was caught stealing it, abusing it, and refilling the empty vials with saline solution with dirty, used needles and infected or potentially anyway, hundreds of patitents with Hep-C. This certainally went beyond "recreational use."

Anyway, we have gone off topic, but it was an enjoyable debate, HYG. I saw the report last night and thought Van at Moonbattery would be interested. A "pot critic." Only in America! I'm gone!

Coca leaf tea is popular in South America. Coca leaves require a lot of refining in order to get cocaine. Coca leaf tea compared to cocaine is like comparing .5 beer to pure alcohol.

You remind me of some anti-marijuana fellow who imagined that that if marijuana were legal people would engage in all sorts of relax behavior with it. My response to him and you: alcohol. Alcohol is far, far, FAR more likely to be involved in these kind of situations, and it is lethal BY ITSELF, whereas marijuana is not. Alcohol has a stronger effect on coordination and reflex time then marijuana. Why is alcohol legal and widely available and marijuana is not?

^ "relax" should be reckless

Pot has proven effective in small trials and anecdote. I'd love to see large trials - once the senseless absolute federal ban has been removed.

TWEET,TWEET,TWEET HUGS NOT DRUGS,HUGS NOT DRUGS,HUGS NOT DRUGS and I CAN LIVE WITH THAT ONE

Can I let everyone in here in on a little secret?

I don't give two shits about pot's supposed medicinal benefits to cancer & glaucoma patients or anyone else. Pardon the pun, but that's just a "smokescreen" for my real agenda.

I just want to toke up for the hell of it, without the cops bothering me.

See how much we accomplish here at moonbattery when we cut through the crap and level with each other?

LEARN TO READ

DOPE

HYG - posterboy for the reasons for NOT doing drugs! ;-)