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The only question which remains: is Rattner merely a master BS artist, or is he so drunk on his own Kool-Aid as to actually believe this nonsense?

"This ability to question our own beliefs is one of the things that separates us from the trolls."

You actually think you abandoned your usual posturing and questioned your own beliefs? Very interesting.

Russ Feingold On FTN: "Broad Majority In This Country Thinks It's a Very Bad Idea to Put in 40k New Troops" in Afghanistan

Had to believe this comes from a United States Senator...So far removed from common sense it isn't funny...

Did I miss something? Was the right clamoring for more troops in Afghanistan before Obama took office?

And a bunch of braindead dorks gave this OBAMA idiot a so called peace prize and he didnt do anything for peace

Did I miss something? Was the right clamoring for more troops in Afghanistan before Obama took office?

Ah, the "look over there, something distracting!" defense.

We're for the President following the advice of his generals. It wouldn't be an issue if Bush was still in power, because more troops would already be on the way.

Obama made a pledge during the campaign to focus on Afghanistan and listen to the advice of his generals. Do you expect him to keep his word, Nameless? Or was it just another empty promise, made solely to get himself elected, like so many others.

Otto, if a "distraction" was made it was SK who raised the topic.

"Listen to advice" does not mean rubber stamp that advice.

I posted that link in lieu of their being a recent open thread at the time I posted it, asshole.

Now, toddle off back to Kos or HuffPo or wherever you and your fellow Marxist liberal friends rub each others skulls together in a vain effort to generate a thought that dares goes outside the bounds of "EVERYTHING IS BUSH'S FAULT!!"

One word: doucher.

"Listen to advice" does not mean rubber stamp that advice.

No, it apparently means sit with his thumb up his sorry ass while our men and women fight and die without any support or help from this jug-eared freak and his fellow Red comrades.

Oh laugh, laugh, laugh. Did I even mention Bush? No, I mentioned the right. Look who is distracting now.

Posted by: lulz at October 25, 2009 5:57 PM

Shouldn't you be over at /b/ swapping kiddie porn with your fellow pedophiles?

Posted by: Anonymous at October 25, 2009 5:58 PM

It was an example of the BDS you sad twerps still suffer from.

Now, go play in one of your liberal crybaby sandboxes.

Only big kids allowed here. :)

Are you able to do anything besides call names? Try reading.

Obama has authorized Afghanistan troop increases that more than double the number who were there when he took office.

Note Graph With This Article

No, you read:

Still, it suggests that a significant number of support troops, in addition to combat forces, would be needed to meet commanders' demands. It also underscores the growing strain on U.S. ground troops, raising practical questions about how the Army and Marine Corps would meet a request from Gen. Stanley A. McChrystal, the top U.S. and NATO commander in Afghanistan.

That is where the majority of the wear on the troops on the ground comes in. I know; I was in Afghanistan in a support capacity 21/2 years ago.

Support troops take a great deal of strain of the combat forces but an increase of combat forces has not been approved or deployed to the region. Nor have any further mechanized infantry, etc.

In short, the matter of Afghanistan has NOT been settled. This is more prevarication from the Obama administration and their liberal outlets i.e. WaPo.

"Rattner" - nice name.

Sorry. Should have been a space here: 2 1/2.

@ Anonymous at October 25, 2009 6:09 PM

Authorizing and actually following through are two different worlds for BO.

If you have not noticed, to date, he has not followed through on much of anything or equally accomplished much positive change.

An astute point, Oiao. This cretin hasn't done a damned thing good for this nation or our troops since taking office. All he cares about is his Marxist agenda and furthering it no matter who gets hurt in the process.

The 52% of Americans who voted for this loser should be felling some serious voter's remorse if they have a brain their heads.

Contrary to what you believe re public opinion on Afghanistan:

"When the question is shifted to a potential escalation of the Afghan war, overall opposition broadens. Asked how they feel about “sending additional U.S. troops” into the conflict, exactly half of Americans — 50 percent — say they oppose the idea, while 41 percent support it.

Party differences are once again stark, as Democrats oppose the escalation by a 62 percent to 30 percent margin, and Republicans support the troop increase by a 58 percent to 31 percent margin. Almost 6 in 10 independents (58 percent) oppose the idea."

Fox News Poll

The right blew off Afghanistan for years. The last admin was asked for more troops and declined. While I believe we need to get out of Iraq and Afghanistan, doing it carefully is neccessary. We all know Al Qaeda is not in either country, and all we are doing is propping up puppet governments. As for McChrystal requesting troops, his record is not that good. going back to the Tillman scandal.

So, what to do? Withdrawl...now, and chalk it up as victory.

Yes and they might just feel that way because this administration has not been supporting the war or the troops nor has their lapdog media.

Instead of a ridiculous and distracting war on Fox News, Chairman Zero should be more focused on an actual war where American men and womens lives are at risk.

Afraid not, Mrs. Cut & Run.

http://articles.latimes.com/2009/mar/11/world/fg-intel11">Al Qaeda's Afghanistan presence increasing, U.S. official says

Al Qaeda's Afghanistan presence increasing, U.S. official says

Defense Intelligence Agency chief Army Lt. Gen. Michael Maples tells senators during a Capitol Hill hearing that Al Qaeda has resurfaced in a country it was forced to flee seven years ago.

We don't know who is and who is not on our side. That is why you don't start wars with a tactic. Combined we have lost nearly 5000 soldiers, and the enemy is across the globe. Repeating the errors of Bush/Cheney is not a good plan. They "dithered" if you will.

"Listen to advice" does not mean rubber stamp that advice.

Posted by: Anonymous at October 25, 2009 5:46 PM

Obama meant he would "hear" the advice not actually listen to it, he obviously mis-spoke.

As for a rubber stamp, give me a break. He has had many months to get the information he needed. He should be getting briefed on this every morning. When the report came in from the line he should have been able to get everybody in a room and decide within a day or two. Even not knowing who is going to be the leader over there isn't that big a deal, it will be one of the 2--or both. The solutions are not going to that different. It is obvious Obama has never had to actually produce/accomplish anything in his career.

Obama need to lead, follow or get the f out of the way. If we want to help in Afganistan-send more troops. Otherwise let's bring them all home so they aren't just waiting to get killed. Personally I would stay and complete our goal.

The Left Is Coping With The Burdens Of Governing Really Well /s

http://bit.ly/2F2x18

When "anti-war" leftwingers (and paleoconservatives) denigrate their own country at every opportunity and then suggest war strategy... you have to laugh at the Orwellian newspeak.

LOL

The BO Administration will be know, not so kindly, by history as 1) worse than Carter and 2) a 'do nothing' amature troup of 'ditherers'.

History will aptly provide credit for the labeling of the BO Bunch as 'ditherers' to one Richard Cheney, and recognize him for being accurate in his assesment.

No further word from the troll brigade?

I guess their mommies didn't want them to stay up past their bedtimes even if they do live in their parent's basements.

Van,

Request more Open Threads. We are all getting off topic.