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October 15, 2009
Open Thread
Posted by Van Helsing at October 15, 2009 9:19 AM

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ACORN to be Re-Funded November 1st
CONGRESSWOMAN BACHMANN: The biggest trick is going to be played on the American people. When the clock strikes midnight, Glenn, on October 31st, the spigot turns back on for federal money flowing to ACORN. They were only defunded to this month. It's a huge CYA move on the part of congress and so that's why people need to get mad, get engaged. The tea parties were awesome, and it got more attention than the media wants you to believe. The 9/12 movement that you instigated was a bigger deal than anyone has been led to believe. But if we have to keep the pressure up and that's why your listeners have to melt the phone lines every day. When they wake up and comb their hair and take their vitamin, pick up their phone and call their two senators, call their member of congress. Say, look, I'm not going to stand for this. You do not have the government take over my healthcare and you defund ACORN. Have you figured this out? And then the next day you pick up the phone, you give the same message. Trust me, hardly anyone picks up the phone. Hardly anyone makes the phone calls. That's why the 9/12 movement has been so incredibly successful. Because for the first time the American people are engaged. But they can't just think the 9/12 movement was enough on September 12th. We have to make those phone calls now until the end of the year.
Posted by: Anonymous Countermoonbat at October 15, 2009 9:37 AM
Bachmann: Government Lays Claim to 30% of Private Business Profits
CONGRESSWOMAN BACHMANN: Well, that's right because the new coalition that is coming together, literally that is a huge tent that is sewn together with the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution of the United States. The very parchment of those documents is the tent that we are coalescing against. Because what we recognize is as Americans we were given the most precious gift of any people of all time. And that was our declaration. And that was our Constitution. And in one year's time, in a stunning move, we've seen the federal government take over 30% of all private wealth produced in this country. One year ago 100% of private business profits were private. Today 30% of private business profits are owned or controlled by the federal government. If they get their way and take over healthcare
GLENN: Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. All of us are looking at each other saying, wow, I've never heard that stat. Where do you get that stat?
CONGRESSWOMAN BACHMANN: Oh, no, that's true. An, an economist from Arizona State University has calculated that since the inception of bailout nation, we have seen the federal government own or control 30% of private business profits.
GLENN: Oh, my gosh.
CONGRESSWOMAN BACHMANN: If the federal government lays claim to the private wealth produced in healthcare, Glenn, that's another 18%, or 48% of the private wealth. And if they lay claim through cap and trade, what Lindsey Graham is getting on board with, that's another 8%, or 56% of the private wealth produced in this country. That's stunning. That is stunning.
Posted by: Anonymous Countermoonbat at October 15, 2009 9:42 AM
Interesting quote from a Kenyan Newspaper, circa 2004.
Kenyan-born US Senate hopeful, Barrack Obama, appeared set to take over the Illinois Senate seat after his main rival, Jack Ryan, dropped out of the race on Friday night amid a furor over lurid sex club allegations.
Is this a hoax? It's not debunked on Snopes.
Posted by: V the K at October 15, 2009 9:51 AM
The evidence pointing to a foreign birth has already been debunked, so we need to stop parroting it. Based on the evidence out there now, there is nothing to substantiate a foreign birth, however there is evidence to substantiate a domestic birth.
The birther movement has become so conspiratorial in nature as to distract us from what is probably the real issue. Obama's minions are loving the "Kenyan birth covered up as part of a pre-birth conspiracy to seize the presidency" line.
I will re-post what I wrote earlier on the subject:
When you look at the evidence, a foreign birth being covered up is simply not that likely, especially given the properly located newspaper birth announcements, and the various testimonies from people who remember the birth.
But something isn't right. Why would he spend close to two million dollars fighting lawsuits if there is really nothing to hide? He could have released the long form, embarrassed the birthers, and spent that money next election cycle or on advocacy for his policies.
I think the real answer lies in the issue of natural born citizenship. The term is, by legal standards, rather vague. About the only person who is undoubtedly a natural born citizen is a child born on American soil to two American parents. Beyond that, it is an issue for the courts.
Given the citizenship issues of Obama's parents, and his time spent outside the US during which he arguably was a citizen of another country, I think his legal team wanted to avoid a SCOTUS review of his natural born status, both at time of birth, and throughout the years when he may have lost it. Liberals believe that the SCOTUS "stole" the election from Gore, and, given the current makeup, might "steal" it from Obama.
If there is doubt about the term natural born, I can see the left spending two million bucks to fight every one of these suits before it takes hold, just to remove any worries about their Manchurian President.
Posted by: Anonymous Countermoonbat at October 13, 2009 5:34 AM
Posted by: Anonymous Countermoonbat at October 15, 2009 9:56 AM
I am just curious about it, that's all. I don't think the birther thing is a big deal.
Posted by: V the K at October 15, 2009 10:09 AM
What's next, replacing the stars and stripes with skull and crossbones?
Posted by: RICH at October 15, 2009 10:12 AM
I think the reason Obama doesnt release the original birth certificate is that there is a name or some other piece of information on it that would embarrass him. There must be some reason why he doesnt release the original. Any normal person would just throw it out there and say, SEE!!
Posted by: Anonymous at October 15, 2009 10:13 AM
The tinfoil hat brigade is hurting our cause. Any court review of his eligibility has been precluded by the association between any question about his eligibility and the fringe birther movement.
Courts are quietly disposing of all eligibility lawsuits using the decisions in more fringe lawsuits as precedent.
Now, thanks to the fringe, we can't even get a judicial review of his natural born status at birth (using the public facts), or whether his natural born status was lost based on his subsequent moves.
Posted by: Anonymous Countermoonbat at October 15, 2009 10:14 AM
What's next, replacing the stars and stripes with skull and crossbones?
Posted by: RICH at October 15, 2009 10:12 AM
Already happened. Called the 2004 election.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A48358-2004Apr3?language=printer
This country has been run by high ranking Freemasons and associated orders for decades. The Republican/Democrat fight is just a farce to keep the people looking away from the real overlords. The masonic new world order has been pushing for global government for decades now. Thanks to the UN they will get it from the global warming scam. The UN is going to step in and take over the global economy and start redistributing wealth according to the whims of the Masons and Bonesmen aka Knights of Eulogia and the Illuminati.
Posted by: Anonymous at October 15, 2009 10:20 AM
so let me get this straight...
Limbaugh is slandered, and you guys bother to post a story on it and get up in arms...
but when I post this...
"So this female Halliburton subsidiary employee was gang raped by her co workers in Iraq, then locked in a shipping container with no food or water to prevent her from seeking medical attention. She called her father on a cell phone, he called his Representative, who called the US Embassy. US soldiers then arrived, found her inside the container, and rescued her.
But due to the fact that contractors overseas don't fall under US judicial jurisdiction the way soldiers and government employees do, charges cannot be pressed against her attackers despite overwhelming evidence against them, and them being caught red handed by US forces.
That our government can allow private contractors to still be utilized with this sort of legal loophole is just outrageous.
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/Story?id=3977702&page=1"
....which I posted specifically because judging from the right vs left's reaction to the Roman Polanski case, it seemed to me that conservatives were far more concerned with sex crimes and protecting women from violence than liberals are, so you guys would be a great asset in getting the word out about this case.
But instead the responses I got here mocked me as a liberal concern troll. I also was told that men having to pay more in taxes is just as bad as a woman getting gang raped, so why should anyone here on moonbattery care?
Yeah, you guys have your priorities in order. Rush Limbaugh getting slandered is just awful. A woman getting gang raped by rapists paid by our tax dollars who go unpunished is a laughable event analagous to paying more in taxes, which only liberals care about.
I guess the sad fact is that neither liberals nor conservatives care about violence against women, and in fact think it's a laughing matter.
Posted by: concerned woman at October 15, 2009 10:24 AM
Along the lines of the other two posts this week involving zero tolerance. This one with a twist. HS girl brings inflatable toy gun to school. Principal calls girl into office. Points a toy gun at the girl to teach her what it feels like to point guns. Anonymous (probably the girl) post of the incident sent to school's website. Principal now on paid administrative leave.
http://cbs5.com/education/monte.vista.principal.2.1249155.html
http://www.contracostatimes.com/ci_13562311?source=most_viewed
Posted by: mike at October 15, 2009 10:24 AM
So? Bill Clinton raped lots of women. Move On.org
Posted by: Anonymous at October 15, 2009 10:26 AM
If some woman was raped she can sue them. Case Closed. BTW there is far more violence against men that violence against women. Thats why women live so much longer than women.
Posted by: Anonymous at October 15, 2009 10:28 AM
concerned woman is neither 'concerned' nor a 'woman'
Posted by: Anonymous at October 15, 2009 10:29 AM
And as for the woman who claims she was raped, where is Eric Holder on this, bug him. After all, if there was any truth to it, Im sure that dude would be first in line prosecuting those who did it.
Posted by: Anonymous at October 15, 2009 10:29 AM
How exactly were the rapists caught "red handed" were they inside the shipping container raping her when they opened it? She can always put out a contract on them using a hit squad and take out the offenders. Im sure the National Organisation of Womyn would donate.
Posted by: Anonymous at October 15, 2009 10:32 AM
Anon @10:13, I think you're right, on the BC issue. There's something on the long form that's embarrassing or even worse to Earbama. Like his religion, put there by his father, or his citizenship, put there by his commie mother.
Posted by: UpNorth at October 15, 2009 10:33 AM
Concerned woman, of course these guys don't want to discuss this case. 30 Republicans voted to continue funding KBR after Senator Franken authored the bill to strip their funding. Claiming it was politically motivated since KBR is a subsidy of Halliburton. But, rape is ok to these people.
Posted by: Anonymous at October 15, 2009 10:40 AM
UpNorth,
I don't know that I'd even go that far. Assuming that the short form isn't a forgery, which it probably isn't, there shouldn't be anything horribly embarrassing on it, and even if there were, what serious person is going to fault Obama for what his parents put on his birth certificate?
Obama's legal team has handled this controversy perfectly, with generous support from the drive by media. Thanks to continued ridicule and stereotyping from the left, all questions of presidential eligibility have become associated with fringe wingnuttery.
Alinsky Rule #12: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it." Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions.
Those who question Obama's eligibility have been misrepresented as all being in the fringe birther camp. They have lost much mainstream conservative support and sympathy, and virtually all support and sympathy from independents, moderates, and center-left persons.
Posted by: Anonymous Countermoonbat at October 15, 2009 10:45 AM
Oh, I forgot to add that, to the mainstream, anyone with a question of eligibility is associated with the likes of Anonymous @ 10:20 AM.
To those who aren't solidly conservative, anyone who talks about eligibility comes off as being the same paranoid type @ 10:20 AM.
If you raise the issue to others, that is what they think of you, all thanks to Team Obama's dedication to the Alinsky playbook.
Posted by: Anonymous Countermoonbat at October 15, 2009 10:48 AM
This wasn't an "alleged" rape. There is no question of guilt here. When US forces arrived, they found the Halliburton employees guarding a locked container with the beaten and raped woman inside with no food or water. She was immediately taken to an army hospital where it was confirmed that she was vaginally and anally raped by multiple assailants.
But US judicial law only applies to soliders and government employees working overseas, not to contracters, even if they are working under government contract at a government facility as was the case here.
And yes, Bill Clinton DID rape women and you guys made that a big deal and brought it to the forefront...as you should have! Just like Roman Polanski raped a girl and you guys brought that to the forefront, as you should have!
And a woman being able to sue the company is not case closed. The company is the one that will pay, not the actual rapists. And they won't spend one day in jail because the laws that exist prevent that from happening. That is the main issue here, the fact that these contracters have no legal liability for whatever they do over there.
Basically what I am getting from you guys is that the only rape victims matter are ones who are raped by liberals. Just like liberals apparently think that liberals can rape people, it's only bad when conservatives commit rape.
You guys really are cut from the same cloth. You think that the rules should only apply to the other side, and that the only victims in the world that matter are people who were victimized by those you consider enemies.
Posted by: concerned woman at October 15, 2009 11:04 AM
"we've seen the federal government take over 30% of all private wealth produced in this country"
Bachmann may be the dumbest person alive. (except for SPURWING PLOVER, of course... that one is hard to top...)
And so I ask the room: what would have happened to that "30% of all private wealth" if the government did NOT step in?
Answer: It would be GONE. No more GM. No more financial iundistry. And we the people would be... living in the Great Depression II.
Hmm... maybe that IS worse than having the government help out. You can still take your crazy asses down to at least a few local GM locations and buy an American car; you can still get a credit card to use when buying meth-making supplies (or guns & ammmo, of course!)... She is just too damn stupid to be allowed to speak in public. She and Palin should go on a "Not A Clue 2009" tour together.
Why do you post these things? Are you desperate to prove you have a poor grasp of reality, or do you really think the voices in your head will approve of this nonsense?
Posted by: Hmm at October 15, 2009 11:07 AM
It is actually in the contract that "restrict their employees from taking workplace sexual assault, battery and discrimination cases to court.”
So, according to the 30 Republicans who voted against this amendment, Halliburton...good, ACORN...bad. This is why it was brought up for a Senate vote, and being investigated by the DOD.
Posted by: Anonymous at October 15, 2009 11:10 AM
The most recent cover of Newsbleak has a way too close up photo of a smirking Joe Biden--he's a VP that's not to be reckoned with. So, be careful.
Biden has more plugs than an electrical supply warehouse. If your're reading this, Dennis Miller, please feel free to use that wisecrack.
The blurb at the top of the cover says that even the Christian hatred-spewing Christopher Hitchens says Obambi didn't deserve his Noble prize.
Posted by: Graycat at October 15, 2009 11:10 AM
Okay let me put it this way:
If you found out that a group of ACORN employees gang raped a women, ACORN then tried to cover up the crime, but, due to a legal loophole specific to the government's contract with ACORN, the perpetrators could not be prosecuted, would your response be,
"So? Bill Clinton raped women"
Posted by: concerned woman at October 15, 2009 11:12 AM
But, rape is ok to these people.
No, no, not in general, only if they're 13 years old, or Third World child sex slaves for fags. Then it's A-OK, admirable, even. Democrats look out for their core constituencies: perverts, drug addicts, criminals (whom they want to be allowed to vote), and of course, Reds.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 15, 2009 11:13 AM
"Democrats look out for their core constituencies: perverts, drug addicts, criminals (whom they want to be allowed to vote), and of course, Reds."
You left off the educated, those who arent religious wingnuts, young people, anti-war non-aggro people, those with a social conscience, and those capable of understanding the world we live in...
those are some pretty important Dem demographics, also. Just saying.....
Posted by: Hmmmmmm at October 15, 2009 11:18 AM
"It is actually in the contract that "restrict their employees from taking workplace sexual assault, battery and discrimination cases to court.”
From what I've read these contracts substitute binding arbitration for court action and based on some studies that have been done plaintiffs are more likely to win a favorable ruling through arbitration than they are through the court. In any event, the bottom line is that a woman does not have to work for a companies that has this provision in their contracts. To act like contractors put this in their contracts because they are trying to protect rapists is just bull. They put it in to protect their company from being destroyed by bad employees.
Posted by: Judith M. at October 15, 2009 11:48 AM
Yet in arbitration the company pays, not the suspects. Regardless tax dollars should not be spent on hiring these companies.
Posted by: Anonymous at October 15, 2009 11:51 AM
Posted by: nancz at October 15, 2009 11:56 AM
The reason why we call WASHINGTON D.C. this DISTRICT of CRINIMALS
Posted by: SPURWING PLOVER at October 15, 2009 12:14 PM
The companies still end up paying in court and the fact is, a person is more likely to get payment from a corporation than from an individual, especially one that is behind bars.
Posted by: Judith M. at October 15, 2009 12:33 PM
I wonder if some of these posters downplaying the seriousness of these rape allegations are plants from DU.
I don't see how any true conservative can condone contractors raping employees, or for that matter, Halliburton and KBR raping the taxpayer.
Throw these criminals in jail, whether they be abusers of women or submitters of false invoices to the taxpayer. These people should not be walking the streets.
Posted by: Anonymous Countermoonbat at October 15, 2009 12:38 PM
Who the hell condones contractors raping employees? Rape is a criminal offense and the Department of Justice should be handling the criminal prosecution of these cases. Why it isn't, I cannot say, but maybe someone should be looking into THAT scandal rather trying to take away the rights of companies to include mandatory arbitration in its employment contracts for civil/torte types of issues.
Posted by: Judith M. at October 15, 2009 12:48 PM
Apparently, employees of contractors on foreign soil fall outside the US legal system. Frankenstein proposed some law that would prevent these contractors putting in the employment contracts that the employees can't sue them or somesuch, and these leftards got all bent out of shape that anyone would consider voting against it. The thing is, I don't think it would do any good, as they can't sue anyway. It was just some feel-good-ism from frankenstein, but what would you expect?
Now, I'm not saying rape is ok in any context, but sometimes there are places you just don't go and expect to trust everyone. The guys that did this should meet a dismal fate, but I think the lady in question will have to arrange that for herself, unfortunately.
Posted by: Mr Evilwrench at October 15, 2009 1:35 PM
You may want to look into KBR'S contract for their employees. KBR as an arm of Halliburton receives federal funds, our money. Therefore, it is Halliburton who condones this behavior by covering it's proverbial ass. Yet republicans make a politcal argument out of it, a woman was raped and the company protects them and republicans are.
Posted by: Anonymous at October 15, 2009 1:56 PM
The Opaqueness of Obamacare Transparency
A favorite buzz word of Barack Hussein Obama’s campaign for the presidency, aside from his vague invocation of “change,” was “transparency.”
Transparency may not be as vague a concept as change but it has become the biggest prevarication of Obama’s presidency especially when it comes to the abomination of Obamacare.
For the edification of this administration, in a political context, “transparent” is defined by Merriam-Webster as ”free from pretense or deceit : frank b : easily detected or seen through : obvious c : readily understood d : characterized by visibility or accessibility of information.”
Nowhere in that definition is any allusion to subterfuge and opaqueness which have supplanted any semblance of the transparent in the executive and congressional machinations surrounding the effort to change how Americans receive medical treatment.
Good grief, Barry! I really hope you and your cohorts don’t actually believe the mass of Americans are so stupid that they can’t see through your carefully-crafted deceptions.
Most Americans are not mind-numbed ACORN-ers who slavishly tow the socialistic, Obama-line and suck up the propaganda out of Washington these days. Nor are we about to be suckered into believing Obamacare includes anything approximating Americans’ concerns for their health interests.
So much is pouring out of D.C. of late, little of which is encouraging, that, by design, it’s difficult to keep up with it all.
That technique could be called, “Toss all kinds of BS against the wall and hope some of it sticks,” or, “Hit ‘em with a disinformation overload and hope they give up in frustration.”
Sorry, Obamians! Again, the vast majority of us are not members of ACORN. In other words, we think.
To keep real Americans abreast of the latest developments in the effort to seduce us into buying into Obamacare, here’s a quick summary of the latest news from the health front:
Baucus Bill Will Make Medical Deductions Out of Reach for Millions: . . .
(Read the rest at http://www.genelalor.com/blog1/?p=1269)
Posted by: Berlet98 at October 15, 2009 2:45 PM
I found an interesting article on the issue, Evilwrench:
http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=9342
The problem regarding the lack of criminal sanctions seems to lie squarely with the DoJ. THEY are the ones who are not taking on these rape in spite of the fact that they have authority to do so.
As for the defense contractors, it does seem that many are being lax about protecting their female employees and that they may be providing bad advice to women who have been raped. Of course, some of that advice might be based on the reality that the DoJ hasn't been doing its job for quite some time with respect to prosecuting these rapists.
The issue of whether companies should be allowed to require binding arbitration in their employment contracts seems far less a factor in denying these women justice than the lack of engagement by the DoJ.
Posted by: Judith M. at October 15, 2009 3:06 PM
Posted by: mega at October 15, 2009 3:48 PM
Is "concerned woman" actually arguing that conservatives don't oppose rape or are OK with it if the women are liberals? Good god, you DU/DK/Moveon/LGF people have got to go get lives.
Posted by: mega at October 15, 2009 3:58 PM
Well, however it comes about it's pretty outrageous, but then that's nothing new. I do hope she can find something like justice.
Posted by: Mr Evilwrench at October 15, 2009 4:19 PM
BREAKING: Dems Go Nuclear on Obamacare
http://www.redstate.com/erick/2009/10/15/breaking-dems-go-nuclear-on-obamacare/
Posted by: J at October 15, 2009 5:12 PM
1,000,000 Iraqis Died As a Result of Clinton's Policies... 85,000 Died During "Bush's War" (Horrifying Video)
http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2009/10/clintons-policies-killed-1000000-iraqis.html
Posted by: J at October 15, 2009 5:22 PM
A hand full of obamas boys and girls will make billions on the so called Obamacare and hell if you let it happen you have it coming.
20 million Americans will march on washington with ropes, that will never happen you fools are way to PC And that is what the KGB Was betting on when the boys in moscow put the plan in play back in 1965.
this nation is about to end as a bitch on a prison cell floor, how sad, but if guys don't have balls that nation will have its balls cut off.
Posted by: Fred Dawes at October 15, 2009 5:25 PM
Wow, you know, I've thought some pretty bad things about the GOP over the years.
But honestly, as bad as I thought you guys ever were. I never thought you'd be pro legal rape and murder. i didn't think that you guys would think that the fact that an American woman getting gang raped, locked up and left for dead in a US zone, and that NOT being illegal due to the type of contract the workers were under, was okay.
But you guys have truly lowered the bar now. There are posters here saying that because violence against men exists, then this doesn't matter. So until men have perfect lives, women deserve to get raped. Awesome. I guess you fellas have to take your miseries out on SOMEONE, huh fellas? That you could actually say with a straight face that because men in the world suffer, rape shouldn't be considered a problem, is not a matter of ideology.
I suggest you people change this website to a "registration only" setting damn quick. Because I'm in NOW, and the first thing going in my mailing list tomorrow is the address of this pro rape website, complete with the comments left here by it's women hating, rapist, evil, scumbag members.
Posted by: suzzie at October 15, 2009 5:35 PM
scuzzie, what the hell are you talking about?
Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 15, 2009 6:00 PM
i didn't think that you guys would think that the fact that an American woman getting gang raped, locked up and left for dead in a US zone, and that NOT being illegal due to the type of contract the workers were under, was okay.
For any and all dumbshits posting here (not looking any direction, suzzie) no contract can abrogate criminal law. Duh. A crime is an offense against society, not against the victim. That's why the views of Polanski's victim on his prosecution/incarceration are totally irrelevant. The offended party is the state. Think (it's always a good time to try new things): Kevorkian was prosecuted for killing people who wanted to die, right? Sheesh.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 15, 2009 6:06 PM
She's talking nonsense, Jay. How many times do these dipsticks have to be told they need to take this up with the DoJ? The DoJ is passing on prosecuting these cases, why is that? Is it too much work? Do they not want these cases publicized? Whatever is going on regarding criminal prosecution, it appears to have nothing to do with the arbitration contracts.
Posted by: Judith M. at October 15, 2009 6:19 PM
New Fox poll shows Obama with 49 % approval;
Hillary more poopular than Obama;
only 43 % would vote for him again.
No, not much of a consolation for nationalizing health care, but still kind of encouraging
PS Troll, you did a good job - got a few people riled up here. Go report your results to Kos.
Posted by: mega at October 15, 2009 6:54 PM
Posted by: muzzie suzzie at October 15, 2009 5:35 PM- "I suggest you people change this website to a "registration only" setting damn quick..."
Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 15, 2009 6:00 PM- "scuzzie, what the hell are you talking about?"
I think it's passing on a message from Holder, in the dialect of the perpetually-enraged-dyke.
Posted by: chairman soetoro's oprichniki at October 15, 2009 9:08 PM
Posted by: muzzie suzzie at October 15, 2009 5:35 PM- "...So until men have perfect lives, women deserve to get raped. Awesome. I guess you fellas have to take your miseries out on SOMEONE, huh fellas?"
Chill out, Butch. It's not really something you have to worry about, anyway.
Posted by: chairman soetoro's oprichniki at October 15, 2009 9:14 PM
Sorry for the outburst, guys. What can I say? It's that time of the month.
I really am a man-hating bitch, though. Just so you know. I am one of those whackadoodle hyperfeminist nutjobs who thinks that all sex is rape and that men are the enemy, no matter how old or young they are.
I'm going to leave now and go someplace where my crazy moonbat views are more welcomed.
Posted by: suzzie at October 15, 2009 9:45 PM
Lies So Deep Even Good People Fall Prey
Ta-Nehisi Coates is not one of the flame throwers on the left. While I don't agree with him on many policy issues, I have found him to be one of the more reasonable left-wing bloggers. But even Coates got caught up in the fabrications spread about Rush Limbaugh.
Coates wrote a post today, One Last Word On Rush, arguing that Limbaugh was denied an NFL ownership opportunity not because Limbaugh was conservative, but because he's a "white populist." One key piece of evidence? Limbaugh's alleged believe that slavery had some merit.
The significance of that allegation warranted an "update" to his post, at the urging of a commenter, so that Limbaugh's statement could be seen in its full context.
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Coates may be a good person but the same cannot be said of the Marxist trolls who pollute this site's comments with their filth.
Posted by: Lao at October 15, 2009 10:20 PM
Good observation, Lao. In fact, I think I'm going to subscribe to Rush 24/7 so I can listen to his show on my mp3 player and finally get the straight dope on this guy. I just want the truth - is it conservatives or liberals who ignore and trivialize rape?
It also would behoove someone like me to find out who is REALLY presuming to speak for the feminist movement these days. Thanks for the tip.
Posted by: suzzie at October 15, 2009 10:34 PM
“Operation Can You Hear Us Now?”
While most of us are sleeping in or shepherding the kids to soccer games or attending weddings or other festivities this Saturday, “Operation Can You Hear Us Now?” is on the case for America.
Fed up with the blackout of such events as the massive, peaceful, tax-protesting, conservative March on Washington on September 12th which was either ignored or trivialized by that media, “Operation Can You Hear Us Now?” has scheduled no less than 125 events for this Saturday, October 17th to drive home the point that we will NOT be further ignored or further trivialized.
(Hat tip to Van Helsing, Moonbattery.com)
See here the truth about the September 12th march http://bit.ly/45ponk and here for the list of Saturday’s events: http://bit.ly/8fb5X.
“No one could make a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could do only a little. (Edmund Burke)
(http://genelalor.com)
Posted by: Berlet98 at October 15, 2009 11:37 PM
Posted by: BURNING HOT at October 16, 2009 1:40 AM
Posted by: BURNING HOT at October 16, 2009 1:50 AM
Posted by: BURNING HOT at October 16, 2009 1:52 AM
Posted by: BURNING HOT at October 16, 2009 2:16 AM
Yeah, you guys have your priorities in order. Rush Limbaugh getting slandered is just awful. A woman getting gang raped by rapists paid by our tax dollars who go unpunished is a laughable event analagous to paying more in taxes, which only liberals care about.
...
You guys really are cut from the same cloth. You think that the rules should only apply to the other side, and that the only victims in the world that matter are people who were victimized by those you consider enemies.
Posted by: concerned woman at October 15, 2009 11:04 AM
What is it with you and that story?
Of course conservatives are opposed to rape, to claim otherwise is ridiculous.
Almost as ridiculous as posting challenges to support defunding Iraq war contractors all over blog threads on completely unrelated topics, and then claiming that you got told to piss off is proof that Republicans support rape.
And for the record yes, conservatives are opposed to rape; no, we don't think there's ever a case where someone 'asked for it;' yes, the incident about which you are posting is a horrible crime - assuming it's true, except that most things that people say about Halliburton aren't; no, conservatives mostly don't object to the idea of tax money being used to provide good wages to private-sector specialists who risk their lives supporting the military in an ongoing war, even if there are cases in which individuals among them commit or have committed crimes; yes, such individuals should be punished in accordance with law.
Hope that helps.
Posted by: mandible claw at October 16, 2009 4:40 AM
Like in Las Vegas, What happens in Iraq stays in Iraq!
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