« Afternoon Update | Main | Darnell Nash: Another ACORN Community Activist Finds Fame »
October 8, 2009
Open Thread
Posted by Van Helsing at October 8, 2009 12:46 PM

Comments
After much study, I have finally figured out how moonbat policymaking works. The procedure is actually rather simple:
1. Write down liberal buzzwords on slips of paper.
2. Put slips into hat.
3. Draw, at random, however many slips you want.
4. Rearrange the words into a sentence.
Try it - it works!
I hereby propose the following moonbat policy objectives:
1. Organize ethnically diverse people of color to remediate income inequality in urban centers.
2. Fund sustanible organic agriculture to eliminate gender disparities related to transnational CO2 emissions.
3. Leverage community action networks to seek social justice for transgendered endangered species.
4. Rethink educational advancement objectives to correct negative stereotypes regarding oppressed varieties of industrial hemp.
5. Blame George Bush.
These goals, while nonsensical to conservatives, would not surprise me if they became future subjects of Moonbattery posts.
Posted by: Anonymous Countermoonbat at October 8, 2009 12:55 PM
Since we (FINALLY!) realised that we were at war wit islam on 9/11, 2001, our "leaders" have tried to fight the war while NOT OFFENDING anyone to the point where we can't even say the words "muslim" or "enemy".
I predicted a few years ago that this will HAVE TO end with the detonation of an nuke. It looks like Iran will "push the button" first.
I hope you stupid freedom-hating Liberals will be happy with what you've brought upon the world.
Posted by: KHarn at October 8, 2009 1:02 PM
Well KHarn, since it was recently revealed that one in four people in the entire world are Muslim, that's a lot of enemies if you want to call them ALL enemies.
Just like here, the people in Muslim nations have a broad range of political and religious beliefs. Just like here, there are a few extremists. Just like here, extremists cause major trouble and concern way out of proportion to their actual numbers.
Posted by: Sally Out West at October 8, 2009 1:10 PM
Sally, I'm sorry you're so offended at seeing your photograph above.
Go take a piss elsewhere.
Posted by: Anonymous at October 8, 2009 1:13 PM
Islamic terrorists have carried out 14191 deadly terror attacks since 9/11. This doesn't sound like a few extremists to me.
Posted by: Stephana at October 8, 2009 1:15 PM
Van, next time make sure you get a photo of me from my good side.
Posted by: Sally Out West at October 8, 2009 1:20 PM
This wicked witch meme is great. Talented PS'ing. Here's the Wicked Witch of the West again (if it works)
Posted by: The MaryHunter at October 8, 2009 1:23 PM
Uh, didn't work. :-(
Posted by: The MaryHunter at October 8, 2009 1:23 PM
Posted by: Sally Out West at October 8, 2009 1:32 PM
Trying again
Posted by: Sally Out West at October 8, 2009 1:54 PM
Nasty Signs of Green Times
Ok, there’s no need to admit it since even Jerry Seinfeld does it.
I’m not talking sex or nose-picking but bathroom, umm, activities. Granted the subject is not your usual cocktail party chat fare and it’s gross but, unfortunately, it’s in the news.
Overachieving songstress Sheryl Crow and political activist Laurie David started it all with their one-sheet proposal a few years back.
(The terminally squeamish should feel free to substitute “bathroom tissue” wherever the terms “toilet paper” or “tp” is mentioned in this article.)
In sum, enviro-zealots Crow and David seriously proposed that Americans be limited to a single sheet of toilet paper when they had to skip to the loo. The two self-appointed eco-experts felt that challenging sacrifice was needed to save the planet.
Both withdrew into the bushes when their scheme was met with a torrent of mockery and they then pulled an Emily Litella and declared, “Never mind.”
A related toilet tale later bubbled up in cash-strapped Riverside County, California when officials decided they just had to save a third of a penny per tp sheet.
Their plan as reported by the New York Times: “There was a texture test, and then the Facilities Management Department decided that Angel Soft would be utilized for elected officials and their guests. The remainder of the county facilities would be using two-ply.”
For more detail on both stories, toilet paper aficionados are referred to ”Things Get Rough in California,” http://www.genelalor.com/blog1/?p=1007.
Things continue to gurgle on the toilet front.
Last month came the allegation that, unlike people who care about the planet, over-indulged, Earth-hating Americans are inclined to softies when it came to tp.
Super-Charmins and comparable super-soft “terlet paper,” as my mom used to call it, were wiping out tens of thousands of acres of old growth forests which are the prime softness sources. Newer trees make for a rougher going but it sure beats chopping down redwoods, no?
The enviro-whackos think we should emulate Europe and use single ply, recycled paper, which is tantamount to using dry leaves or old copies of the Times.
Those Earth-friendly Europeans are in the forefront of the effort to save the trees, especially old trees and should serve as models for us profligate Americans who love the soft life.
At least one Irish girls’ school has shown the way toward saving a few euros . . .
(Read the rest at http://genelalor.com)
Posted by: Berlet98 at October 8, 2009 2:34 PM
You can't make up stuff like this. The other shoe drops with the French "Culture Minister:" French minister who demanded Roman Polanski be freed paid for sex with 'young boys' in Thailand
Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 8, 2009 2:51 PM
When I was a little kid, I thought the wicked witch of the west could be any scarier or uglier. I was wrong.
Posted by: man of few words at October 8, 2009 2:52 PM
RE: Posted by: Anonymous Countermoonbat at October 8, 2009 12:55 PM
That pretty much sums up the stupidity of the Left-Leaning Letterman-Loving Low Life Lizard Like Lobotomized Lemming Like Liberal Losers.
SOW - I can add an extra word with an "L" if you like......in the spirit of bein' inclusive an' all, y'know......
Posted by: TonyD95B at October 8, 2009 2:57 PM
Good side? A photo of a butt full of cellutie...good thing you wear a burqa
Posted by: SoWhat at October 8, 2009 2:58 PM
Communist idiocy at it's best from Sally Out West
Well KHarn, since it was recently revealed that one in four people in the entire world are Muslim, that's a lot of enemies if you want to call them ALL enemies.
Considering that ALL act's of terror/war against the United States have been commited by followers of Islam, who are primarily Muslim Arabs it should be painfully obvious that THEY are not "friends" but my guess is most of the other idiots you hang out with have set fire to your home in order to prove how much they like you.
I certainly hope you really are not that dumb but so far it's pretty obvious that calling them anything other an ememy is lees than adequate.
Just like here, the people in Muslim nations have a broad range of political and religious beliefs.
Since you have NEVER been to an arab nation, have never had any contact with the indigenous people from there and by this statement alone PROVE haw little you know about Sharia, the Q'ran, and middle east/arab culture go back to the Daily Kos with the rest of the communist retards.
Islam has ONE tenant; Convert them or kill them! Sharia law is the most savage and brutal law governing women on the planet. There is ABSOLUTELY NO "range of political and religious beliefs" within Islam. When you have spent as much time around them as I have you would know this very simple and OBVIOUS fact!
Just like here, there are a few extremists.
How much LSD did you take before deducing that idiocy? The "extremists" are the communists like you and Odumbo who have such a disdain for fredom loving Americans that you seek to "fundamentally change" this country into some tyranical third world dictatorship. The only "extremists" are other radical eco-fanatics, global warming zelots, food-nazi's, smoking-nazi's, wealfare queens, alternative-energy morons and assorted other "extremists" seeking to impose your draconian and failed beliefs on EVERYONE else!
Just like here, extremists cause major trouble and concern way out of proportion to their actual numbers.
True, the "extremists" like you and your idiot mesiah have caused ALL of the "major trouble" we currently face with your regressive tax ideas, smoking bans, food bans, energy policy restrictions, loans to the undeseving, forced indoctrination of children, gun bans, rewarding of criminals, and absolute rejection of everything that made America what it is.
Unfortunately that is the sad case currently because the TINY minority of communists like you have done all you can to weaken this nation with your moronic dreams of a utopia that was never intended nor desired by Americans. While your socialist policies have debilitated this nation for years THAT is FINALLY comming to an end!
Posted by: Michelle at October 8, 2009 4:47 PM
Islam is the whole package.
It is a religion AND a governing body/system. There are no "middle grounds." It's either yea or "no, don't kill me."
Posted by: AmericanToTheCore at October 8, 2009 5:00 PM
Feel better for getting all that off your chest? Hilarious!
"Considering that ALL act's of terror/war against the United States have been commited by followers of Islam, who are primarily Muslim Arabs...."
Timothy McVeigh.
So much for your fervent credibility, I won't bother going on.
Posted by: Sally Out West at October 8, 2009 5:00 PM
Let me adjudicate here.
I've traveled in Arab countries, and it is absolutely true that most Muslims are perfectly nice people.
On the other hand, I've also traveled in Germany, Italy, Japan, China, and Russia, and it is absolutely true that most Germans, Italians, Japanese, Chinese, and Russians are also perfectly nice people. And yet we fought each of these peoples either in hot wars, or by proxy in the Cold War.
The point, of course, is a relatively small proportion of people calling the shots for a group can make that group an enemy of ours.
So Sally's point, while literally correct, is sophomoric.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 8, 2009 5:15 PM
It never seems to occur to moonbats that, of the 1.25 billion Muslims on the planet, the majority that is not actively engaged in violent jihad is that way because most human beings have a conscience, driven by cross-cultural notions of right and wrong, not because Islam is some "enlightened religion of peace."
The number of moderate Muslims is irrelevant to discussions of Islam's core tenants.
The most authoritative source on Islam is the Quaran, followed by Mohammed's Hadiths. For those of you who skipped history class, Islam was founded on the idea that Mohammed is God's FINAL prophet, whose writings were DIVINE IN ORIGIN, not just a record of his interaction with God.
Individuals practicing a toned down belief system based loosely on cultural practices handed down through generations, that at one point were Islamic in nature, ARE NOT PRACTICING ISLAM.
Islam is the religious and political system founded by Mohammed. The moderate Muslims are practicing Islam-lite, which is essentially a watered down version of Islam that remains compatible with the core conscience and compassion shared by most human beings.
Read the Hadiths, folks. Mohammed was a brutal barbarian and raised his followers in that tradition. "Religions of peace" do not have their founders giving Quaranic interpretations concerning how non-Muslims are to be tortured, or what restraints must be applied by a Muslim soldier when raping a captive woman.
Posted by: Anonymous Countermoonbat at October 8, 2009 5:30 PM
Thanks for the attempt at adjudication Jay, however....
"Nice" is not the point I made, rather, people's political or religious beliefs , which are variable.
So going back to the one-quarter of the world's population who are Muslim, have the "relatively small proportion of people calling the shots" for those people proven to be violent Muslim extremists and therefore our enemies?
Posted by: Sally Out West at October 8, 2009 5:31 PM
And, by the way, Timothy McVeigh was raised Christian during his childhood. When he radicalized in adulthood, he was a self-professed agnostic.
I'm not here to state that Christian gospel has never incited violence - that is not true. However, the fact remains that McVeigh was not a terrorist motivated by Christianity. That is patently false. Those who continue advancing that lie are guilty of intellectual dishonesty.
Posted by: Anonymous Countermoonbat at October 8, 2009 5:32 PM
The "relatively small proportion of people calling the shots" are the ones following literal Islam from the time of Mohammed.
This is why fundamentalist Islam is virtually inseparable from religious terrorism and Islamofascism.
The ones who are neither "calling the shots" or listening to those who do are not practicing fundamentalist Islam. They are simply average humans who have adopted some Islamic practices out of their upbringing by a family who did the same in a country that did the same.
These people are the Muslim equivalent of the Americans that never pray and never attend church, but always celebrate Christmas by the familiar gift giving ritual.
Posted by: Anonymous Countermoonbat at October 8, 2009 5:35 PM
I never made any claim regarding McVeigh's beliefs beyond the fact that he was NOT a follower of Islam.
Posted by: Sally Out West at October 8, 2009 5:36 PM
RE: Posted by: Sally Out West at October 8, 2009 5:00 PM
SOW invokes the name of anti-government Leftist poster boy Timothy McVeigh.
You mean Timmy, the onetime Republican / Catholic / good U.S. Army soldier that fell in with the "Waco Whackos", the "Troofer" movement of the 1990s, and became like Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn? That Timmy McVeigh?
Posted by: TonyD95B at October 8, 2009 5:40 PM
Sally changed the subject. The fact is Islam is a belief system intent on subjugation of the world by violence. What certain individuals believe is irrelevant - what is relevant is what the main guy says and what the religion actually believes. And it is the ones ramming planes into buildings and blowing up buses who are the true Muslims because they are doing exactly what their religion tells them to.
Conduct this exercise - compare the words and deeds of warlord Mohhamed with Jesus.
Frankly the argument ends there, but if you really want proof try these:
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
http://www.jihadwatch.org/
Can you say taqiyya? dhimmi?
Ironic you being a woman and supporting Islam, Sally.
Posted by: Stephan at October 8, 2009 6:27 PM
Nice" is not the point I made, rather, people's political or religious beliefs , which are variable.
Sally, I was generically characterizing your point. My point is that variable in beliefs or not, people who allow (in the sense of "do not prevent") the homicidally-inclined to speak for them are enemies, even though the vast majority of those people are themselves perfectly nice and reasonable people.
Re the intrinsic nature of Islam, I am agnostic. Yep, there are quotes from the Koran and Hadith that sound pretty bloodthirsty, but then there are quotes that contradict those. The same is true of the Bible. Neither is homogeneous in that respect, presumably because of the varied authorship and various perspectives of those authors. I tried to read the Koran, but frankly found it impenetrable. It's like reading the ravings of a madman – doubtless fraught with meaning to whoever uttered them, but pretty opaque to others (at least to me). So it's not clear to me that Islam is intrinsically flawed, but Muslim terrorists go some way toward making me reconsider that position.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 8, 2009 6:45 PM
Lame Excuse for the Baucus Non-Bill
The reason supporters of Democratic proposals don't want the people to read the bills is not to spare people the trouble, but to spare Democrats the trouble of having to explain the increased taxes, penalties, loss of privacy, rationing, loss of private coverage, government intrusion, and deficits.
Posted by: SK at October 8, 2009 6:57 PM
"people who allow (in the sense of "do not prevent") the homicidally-inclined to speak for them are enemies"
I hope you take that thought to heart when right wing flakes post their dreams of violent American revolution in comments on this blog.
Posted by: Sally Out West at October 8, 2009 7:02 PM
Is this even possible? Saudis ask for aid if world cuts dependence on oil
Posted by: mega at October 8, 2009 7:26 PM
LOL! The Saudis claim they don't have too many resources.
Maybe they should make sandpaper.
Posted by: Anonymous at October 8, 2009 7:32 PM
Our clueless communist Sally Out West again tries to be witty...
Feel better for getting all that off your chest? Hilarious!
Not really, for the most part it's just extremely tiresome listening to communists like you lie constantly like your idiot mesiah Odumbo does.
Timothy McVeigh.
Remind me again where the country of "Timothy McVeigh" is again since I couldn't find it on a map. Also if you could point to a listing of where "Timothy McVeigh" churches are since I would just love to see one. I also couldn't find any place to buy a "Timothy McVeigh" bible.
Would you like to try again to counter the Islam is an enemy argument or just continue to look like every other petulant communist retard.
So much for your fervent credibility, I won't bother going on.
My "credibility" isn't in question here but your's is hun.
The best you can do is point to an anarchist radical like Odumbo's friend Bill Ayers to defend your juvinile knowledge of arab culture and Islam specificly.
Aditionally everyone here knows WHY you can't "go on" because it's as usuall for a communist you lack the intelect about the subject to do so.
Additionally:
I should have been more clear, because while not ALL acts or terror or war are commited by Islam those that are not, ARE commited by liberals like Odumbo's friend Bill Ayers, Timothy McVeigh, Hugo Chavez, and Bernadeen Dorn.
I admit I should have made a distinction between radical LIBERAL terrorsis like the weather underground and Islamic terrorists like Al Quiada. I shouldn't have assumed you had enough mental ability to seperate the two which based on your comments you have proven you can't!
Posted by: Michelle at October 8, 2009 7:34 PM
Yep, there are quotes from the Koran and Hadith that sound pretty bloodthirsty, but then there are quotes that contradict those.
A light skimming isn't enough to understand Islamic jurisprudence. Remember that later passages overrule earlier ones, specificity overrules multiple interpretations, and Mohammed's interpretations of vagueness or conflicting passages are to be treated as authoritative and binding.
While you can cherry pick passages to try and "prove" peaceful intent, this doesn't hold up in the Islamic system. Cherry picking is a preferred tactic of Dhimmis and apologists, but it simply isn't how Islam works. One quote suggesting a broad, vague idea of peace is meaningless when it is followed by specific quotes requiring violence, or an interpretation by Mohammed spelling out the conditions which make violence acceptable.
While the Christian bible does promote violence and brutality in some of its passages, particularly in the Old Testament, the direct commands of Jesus make the overwhelming case for peace and acceptance. Throughout Christian history, the barbarians had to cherry pick their quotes to condone violence, contrary to the underlying theme. That is the exact opposite of Islam, which tends to default to violence with limited exceptions.
(for the record, I'm not a Christian)
Posted by: Anonymous Countermoonbat at October 8, 2009 7:56 PM
Even more hilarious Michelle, I especially like the spelling errors and typos. My favorite was "intelect".
Did I mention Ayers in this thread? Nope. Duh!
Despite this, I can tell you are a scholar re acts of terror. Please remind me, what act of terror or war "against the United States" (as you claimed in your first post) did Hugo Chavez pull off?
Posted by: Sally Out West at October 8, 2009 7:58 PM
Hey, ya hear about the big party in Hyannis Port MA?
They were celebrating Ted Kennedy being sober for 30 days!
Posted by: Bryherb at October 8, 2009 8:05 PM
I hope you take that thought to heart when right wing flakes post their dreams of violent American revolution in comments on this blog
Is violent revolution in and of itself necessarily bad? Do you condemn Stauffenberg? Did you regret the passing Ceausceau? What if Obama & Co. were to place dissidents in camps, solely for political reasons?
I'm not for a moment suggesting that Obama would do anything of the kind, or for that matter advocating revolution, or anything of the kind, but the question has to be asked, "toward what end?" Recall the American Revolution itself was violent. Circumstances exist in which violent revolution is called for. The question is in each case is whether such circumstances obtain. To reiterate: I don't think for a second think that that's true now.
And while I take to heart your exhortation, do you in like fashion take mine to heart to do the same when you encounter left wing flakes expressing their dreams of exterminating those impeding the march of socialism as, e.g., Bill Ayers ) famously did.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 8, 2009 8:11 PM
Anonymous Countermoonbat, I defer to your obviously greater knowlege of Islam. As indicated, I found the Koran unreadable. I wasn't trying to prove peaceful intent, or anything else - just trying to get a handle of what Islam actually taught. Frankly, that's still unclear to me.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 8, 2009 8:13 PM
I am not aware of anyone on the left currently advocating violence against the right. You bring up Ayers, who planted bombs (but killed nobody) nearly 40 years ago. Charges against him were dropped. The quote you cite was made in 1974.
I have not noticed leftist calls to violence in the comments on this blog. Unfortunately, the same can not be said for commenters on your side .
"What if Obama & Co. were to place dissidents in camps, solely for political reasons?"
It absolutely is NOT going to happen. BUT, if it did, I would be on your side in opposition as would everyone on the left that I know.
Posted by: Sally Out West at October 8, 2009 8:31 PM
Jay, check out the resources at thereligionofpeace.com to get a basic understanding of the literal system as laid out by Mohammed. The Islamic literature is a difficult read, as far as full understanding is concerned, however it is possible to gain a basic understanding of the barbaric original intent by understanding how internal conflicts are resolved.
A full understanding of Islamic theory is a university level undertaking. As far as these political threads are concerned, a basic level of understanding will suffice, for the limited purpose of dispelling the myths perpetuated by the Dhimmis and the apologists.
The important concept to take away from this is that, according to fundamentalist Islamic theory, acts of brutality, violence, and misogyny are accepted, condoned, and well supported by the literature. The fact that most people of an Islamic background do not adhere to literal Islam is a product of the thread of common good that runs through most people - not some teaching handed down by originalist mulllahs.
As far as politics goes, this important tidbit helps to explain why the madrassas that we see as radical or terror-breeding are not seen in that context by many Muslims, since those schools stick to Islamic literalism. Granted, some of the teachers specifically instill terrorist values by preaching hatred of the West in contemporary language, but even those teachers simply emphasizing literalist Islam, without contemporary commentary, are helping to breed terror.
Posted by: Anonymous Countermoonbat at October 8, 2009 9:00 PM
I am not aware of anyone on the left currently advocating violence against the right.
You must have missed yesterday's thread documenting the patriot guard that had to form a human shield around a military recruiting center to stop a planned vandalism spree by Berkeley moonbats.
Posted by: Anonymous Countermoonbat at October 8, 2009 9:13 PM
First Anon Counter, I will address your Muslim comment. Essentially you confirm what I said before. FUNDAMENTALIST Islamic theory is certainly a problem, and likely the source of the extremists who cause us grief. One of my original points was that there is a broad range of Muslim religious attitudes and you confirm that.
Re Berkeley, I didn't follow that thread closely. However, just like vandalism that has occurred at abortion clinics, late at night, and anonymous, so too (I believe) it was with the vandalism at the recruiting center. It is way too easy to blame the more prominent organizations that protest by day, but you know as well as I, that lone wolves are the more likely culprits.
The so-called "planned vandalism" was a prediction made here on Moonbattery so far as I know. If you want to claim a "planned vandalism spree" then you need to offer a link that indicates premeditation. A demonstration was planned, and that happened.
Posted by: Sally Out West at October 8, 2009 9:24 PM
Still can't refute anything can you Sally?
I realize that since you are so illinformed and clueless about reality like most communists that all you can do is feign indiference, laughter and point out spelling errors.
It's ok, really, we all know you're just a retarded moron who prays to a lying marxist idiot.
Sometimes we even feel sorry for you because of your ignorance and self imposed delusions about the communist icons you idolize.
If you really had any ability to think for yourself or use what little mental ability you have it might be worth wasting more time on you.
You are just like all the other brainless communists who come here with tired and worn out mantra's of "But Bush Lied"... "but Bush said"... and let's not forget your favorites "Haliburton, Big oil, big Pharma,"... Blah Blah Blah baseless and factless nonsense fed to you by Daily Kos.
Don't worry though my taxes are still going to keep supporting you and paying your way because your to stupid to make it on your own.....
Posted by: Michelle at October 8, 2009 9:38 PM
Anonymous Countermoonbat, if you could write an automatic sentence generator...
Posted by: BURNING HOT at October 8, 2009 9:42 PM
The term “moderate Muslim” was created in the West. In the Muslim world there is nothing called moderate or radical Muslims or moderate or radical mosques. You are either a Muslim or not.
Nonie Darwish
Posted by: mega at October 8, 2009 10:23 PM
Posted by: BURNING HOT at October 8, 2009 11:07 PM
Posted by: BURNING HOT at October 8, 2009 11:18 PM
You Say, “Hate Crime.” I say, “First Amendment.”
When you say potato and I say potahto, it doesn’t mean much. Same goes for tomato and tomahto.
When you say I can’t speak and write whatever I wish to speak and write–as long as it’s the truth and not likely to get people to stampede out of a non-burning theater–I say you’re trampling on my rights under the First Amendment to the Constitution of the United States of America.
On Thursday, October 8th, 2009, the U.S. House of Representatives voted to “strengthen” so-called federal hate-crime legislation to incorporate any and all criticism and attacks on homosexuals.
It was passed handily just a few hours ago as of this writing with all the sneakiness Democrats could muster, including attaching the hate bill to a defense bill to insure its passage: http://bit.ly/DP06X
Had it been proposed as a separate bill, the House probably still would have passed it over Republican opposition given the makeup of the new leftist, gay-friendly, Constitution-unfriendly Dem majority.
However, that party loves late night machinations almost as much as it loves spitting on Americans’ rights.
The legislation now goes to the Senate for a vote and then inexorably on to Obama’s desk for signature, inexorably since Democratic Senate ratification and the president’s autograph are foregone conclusions.
Obama had cautioned gays to hold fire as he diddled over . . .
(Read the rest at http:genelalor.com)
Posted by: Berlet98 at October 8, 2009 11:50 PM
one of the few undoctored photos of M.Obama
along with his classis-undoctored photo of the joker/socialist photo...fabulous
Posted by: D_Rack at October 9, 2009 2:43 AM
sorry i know tthats supposed to be malkin but looks more like m. obama
Posted by: D_Rack at October 9, 2009 2:47 AM
Posted by: BURNING HOT at October 9, 2009 3:24 AM
But Michelle, isn't king zero all cozied up in a big warm bed with Big Pharma?
Posted by: Karin at October 9, 2009 7:45 AM
There are three large groups of people in this world who harbor strong beliefs based on nothing but their feelings. They are religionists, socialists and catastrophic global warmers. This blog is filled with their nonsensical comments. Since there is no credible evidence for any of these beliefs, how is it that so many people have been gulled into believing something that is not only untrue but can, and often is, hazardous to their well-being. Is it because they are just plain stupid or is their genetic makeup not sufficiently evolved to allow them to put aside their feelings, connect the dots and recognize BS when it is fed to them?
I know some very nice people who are seemingly intelligent and educated who will look you in the eye and tell you the earth was created 6000 years ago. They base this astounding fiction on nothing more than an account in a book put together by a bunch of semiliterate religious fanatics who devised an easy way to get free meat from a poor and ignorant people. People today are surely more educated but they still fall prey to the purveyors of BS. Therefore, I conclude that arrested evolution in a large number of people is the likely cause of this massive delusion that afflicts the world.
Posted by: Realist at October 9, 2009 8:31 AM
"Sally Out West at October 8, 2009 1:10 PM"
One in four, huh? Should we GIVE UP then?
I don't give a damn about what someone's religion or politics are, if they are threatening me, my family, my friends, or my COUNTRY, I reserve the right to KILL THEM. Is that asking too much? Animals have the right to defend food, mates and territory, so why can't Liberals recognise that right for humans?
Yeah, I've heard that "not EVERY on of them are evil" argument before, I've heard it said durring the Cold War too. But it doesn't change the fact that there ARE a hell of a lot of muslims who want to impose tyrany on THE WHOLE WORLD and the fact that there are millions of muslims who will stand by and do nothing even if they don't approve of mass murder.
You seem reasonable, can't you at least agree with that much?
Posted by: KHarn at October 9, 2009 10:50 AM
I AM reasonable.
You've missed a bunch of my points. One in four in the world may be Muslim but the huge, huge, majority of them are no threat to us whatsoever. So the issue of GIVE UP is phony.
I can recognize the right of self defense of self, family, friends and country. I have no issue with that and I support it and I believe liberals everywhere support that as well. Just remember, after 911 the country was united.
Re Muslims who will "stand by and do nothing", bear in mind the political situation in their countries. It's estimated 2.2 million have fled Iraq. Fled due to fear of ethnic cleansing among other things.
Are Muslim extremists to be opposed without question?
Bear in mind, if you answer "yes" to that question then we have to stay in Afghanistan and oppose the Taliban.
Posted by: Sally Out West at October 9, 2009 5:26 PM


