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October 14, 2009

Old Glory Found Offensive, Banned

Posted by Van Helsing at October 14, 2009 9:35 AM

Moonbats didn't much like looking at all the flags that blossomed everywhere after 9/11. Last November, they took their revenge for having to look at them. But some still fly Old Glory, regardless of the disgrace our government has become — and others still don't like it:

ALBANY, Ore. - At the Oaks Apartments in Albany, the management can fly their own flag advertising one and two bedroom apartments - but residents have been told they can't fly any flags at all.
Jim Clausen flies the American flag from the back of his motorcycle. He has a son in the military heading back to Iraq, and the flag - he said - is his way of showing support.
"This flag stands for all those people," said Clausen, an Oaks Apartment resident. "It stands for the people that can no longer stand - who died in wars. That's why I fly this flag."
But to Oaks Apartment management, Clausen said, the American flag symbolizes problems.
He was told to remove the red, white and blue from both of his rides, or face eviction. …
Even long-time residents like Sharron White, who has flown a flag on her car for eight years, has been told to take it down.
White said management told her that "someone might get offended."

The management isn't worried about patriots getting offended by Old Glory being treated like an obscenity, because offensiveness is a one-way street, which leads only toward ever more repressive moonbattery.

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Banned for being offensive to moonbats.

On tips from Janet and Sal.


Comments

I swear to God I am glad I'm not within driving distance. I am so fed up with this sort of crap I cannnot begin to tell you. I think my blood pressure just went orbital.

WTF is wrong with these people??!!!!????

Posted by: chuck in st paul at October 14, 2009 9:44 AM


I got mine flowing each day, I'd love to see a Liberal come and demand I take it down. People might be offended to see an American flag in the US? what sort of twisted reasonning is that?

Posted by: Jay B at October 14, 2009 9:47 AM


I hope one of these folks takes this butt biscuit to court on this. I'll gladly send a few bucks to help out.

Posted by: chuck in st paul at October 14, 2009 9:55 AM


Ok, I can see where the management might be within their rights banning flags from being flown from the buildings.... But on the tennent's own vehicles?!

Them's fightin' words!

Posted by: Rob Banks at October 14, 2009 9:55 AM


But to Oaks Apartment management, Clausen said, the American flag symbolizes problems.

I have a solution to your problems, queer, move to either Iran or Cuba, PARADISE on earth.

Now go f*ck yourself.

Posted by: Anonymous at October 14, 2009 10:02 AM


This is in moonbat infested Ory-gone, should we be suprised? In Colorado, a few years ago, the state legislature passed a law that prohibits home owner associations from banning displaying the American flag. Of course, these are apartments and probably don't have to deal with HOAs. It seems that the tenants could sign a petition. Displaying the stars and stripes "symbolizes problems?" Give me a break, and super size it!

Posted by: Graycat at October 14, 2009 10:22 AM


They're talking about this over at the DUmp. They're upset because airing such a story might make moonbats look bad. They might get painted with a broad brush or something.

Posted by: Karin at October 14, 2009 10:26 AM


Meet you there Chuck, can you imagine if someone banned the liberal morons from blaming bush!? They would be rioting, burning cars and getting new stereo's. Not being able to fly one's own flag is beyond stupid!

Posted by: TED at October 14, 2009 10:33 AM


Hopefully this story will spread around the web, and discourage patriots from living at that anti-American dump.

With no patriots to pay the bills at that complex, they'll have to fill it up with illegal immigrants, dirty hippies, and other lowlife moonbats.

Hopefully then the management will understand that flag-flying patriots are the kind of tenants one would want in their complex. I can't imagine the anti-flag crowd is very quiet or responsible.

Posted by: Anonymous Countermoonbat at October 14, 2009 10:35 AM


Google maps location of the complex, along with reviews from outraged folks who have gotten wind of this cowardice and appeasement, can be found here:

http://snipurl.com/sigay

I think I'll give them a call and politely suggest that maybe they should re-think their position on flying our country's flag.

(541) 967-1284‎

Posted by: Jeffery Wright at October 14, 2009 10:50 AM


"With no patriots to pay the bills at that complex, they'll have to fill it up with illegal immigrants, dirty hippies, and other lowlife moonbats."
Not to mention those kinds of people tend to be major slackers when it comes to paying rent, and through filthy personal habits (Especially the hippies), greatly bring down the property values and help attract the criminal element to the area.
So, in other words, the landlords will get exactly what they deserve.

Posted by: Adam at October 14, 2009 11:04 AM


In 2005 a federal law was passed to prohibit this kind of treason.

Posted by: FREE at October 14, 2009 11:39 AM


In the UK, the popular belief is that anyone who puts the Union flag or the St George cross flag in their window or their car is a total fascist, which when you think about it makes complete sense.

Maybe the Democrats feel the same way when they see American citizens put up flags and demand that everyone acknowledge their nationalism.
It either makes people tearful with pride or it makes them think that America is quite imperialistic. Flags don't solve anything, they just create further friction and the Democrats want to avoid this, as should any peace-loving person.

Posted by: Anonymous at October 14, 2009 11:41 AM


“Better the pride that resides in a citizen of the world,
Than the pride that divides when a colourful rag is unfurled”.

Posted by: Anonymous at October 14, 2009 11:44 AM


Is this enough?

If it isn't what is?

What or when will be enough for true patriots to take back the greatest country in the history of man?

Posted by: FREE at October 14, 2009 11:44 AM


Just so I got this straight, according to moonbats:

Burning the American flag, because it's a symbol = OK

Displaying the American flag, because it's a symbol = NOT OK

Gotcha.

I don't live in Oregon (thank God...yes I said God, deal with it), but that patriot with the American flag on his motorcycle is welcome to crash in my guest room anytime.

Posted by: Nunya at October 14, 2009 11:55 AM


"Better the lies that reside in a citizen of the world,
Than the pride that provides freedom for thankless turds."

Posted by: Anonymous at October 14, 2009 11:57 AM


I hope everyone moves out and leaves that stupid landlord with several dozen empty apartments and he ends up selling pencils on the street corner and sleeping in a cardboard box

Posted by: SPURWING PLOVER at October 14, 2009 12:00 PM


I don't often cuss, but I believe my response to such lunacy would be GO TO HELL.

Posted by: Paul H at October 14, 2009 12:22 PM


Progress:

http://www.democratherald.com/news/local/article_eb39642c-b8e3-11de-a474-001cc4c002e0.html

Posted by: Paul H at October 14, 2009 12:24 PM


From the updated article:

Holcomb said today she was reversing herself not because of any pressure to do so. Rather, "I had a conversation with Emily Cedarleaf of the Multi-Family Housing Council of Oregon, who said the policy was not legal," she said.

Posted by: Paul H at October 14, 2009 12:27 PM


I don't often cuss, but I believe my response to such lunacy would be GO TO HELL
Posted by: Paul H

Why do Conservatives get so hung up on swearing?

Posted by: Anonymous at October 14, 2009 12:29 PM


Holcomb said today she was reversing herself not because of any pressure to do so. Rather, "I had a conversation with Emily Cedarleaf of the Multi-Family Housing Council of Oregon, who said the policy was not legal," she said.

Yeah, well, it's the thought that counts. And the thought was anti-American.

But don't question their patriotism! Never happen!

Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 14, 2009 12:35 PM


We don't, Anonymous. Go to fucking hell.

Their number has been disconnected.

Great point on how sweeping out the patriots and heaving in the moonbats would be nothing but a landlord's headache. Richly, richly deserved.

Posted by: Karin at October 14, 2009 12:42 PM


Why do Conservatives get so hung up on swearing?

It's not that we're hung up, it's just that we're intelligent enough to find ways to express strong opinions without using the f-word.

Posted by: V the K at October 14, 2009 12:55 PM


Thanks V the K. Exactly. I only drop the F-bomb when I'm in the bedroom with the misses. Yes, we do have a sense of humor in case you were wondering.

Posted by: Paul H at October 14, 2009 1:00 PM


I think the F-Bomb should be reserved for special occasions. The bedroom and telling a particularly obnoxious troll where to go (a la Karin) for example. It's like wasabi. I love wasabi in the right context, but I wouldn't want to eat it every meal.

Posted by: V the K at October 14, 2009 1:06 PM


update on the story.... after re-considering, the apartment management is recinding that directive and will allow the flags to be flown...... maybe they finally read the 2005 act of congress that guarentees a person the right to fly a fly a flag at their home. a little mouse told me there was a group from here in portland that was goint ot go plant some flags in the gardens and areas of the comples and a radio station dj wanted his station to buy flags for those in the complex who could not afford it. gotta love facebook!

Posted by: gomergirl at October 14, 2009 1:56 PM


What the hell is wrong with people these days? I'd love to hear these apartment managers or owners tell that to the millions of Americans who are outraged at this and other attacks on our country. This is an outrage!

Posted by: SamAdams at October 14, 2009 2:32 PM


If people are offended by the American flag they can move somewhere else, preferably Hell.

Posted by: patzer at October 14, 2009 2:46 PM


"Anonymous at October 14, 2009 11:41 AM"
"Anonymous at October 14, 2009 11:44 AM"

Screw you twice.

It's easy to criticize America, we won't kill you. Try criticising Cuba, Red China, or Iran while IN those countrys.

Posted by: KHarn at October 14, 2009 2:54 PM


"It either makes people tearful with pride or it makes them think that America is quite imperialistic. Flags don't solve anything, they just create further friction and the Democrats want to avoid this, as should any peace-loving person.

Posted by: Anonymous at October 14, 2009 11:41 AM"


Wake up call, the Democrats are anything but peace loving. And their motives for removing the flag are anything but noble. They hate this country and they hate the Flag because it represents everything that is this country. Perhaps if they placed a picture of Obama where the stars are, then the problem would be solved.
Now get out of here...freaking moron.

Posted by: conservativeteen at October 14, 2009 2:55 PM


Screw you twice. It's easy to criticize America, we won't kill you. Try criticising Cuba, Red China, or Iran while IN those countrys.
Posted by: KHarn

OK, I won't bother to be reasonable or articulate.
I'll just be a opinionated twat, like you.

America isn't the centre of the universe, and it certainly isn't perfect and beyond being questioned.
Michael Moore understands this, but his beliefs go right over your head, because you're too singleminded to question your own.

Posted by: Anonymous at October 14, 2009 5:04 PM


You say the Democrats are anything but peace-loving.
So the Republicans are? Don't. talk. shit.

Freedom isn't free?
Bullshit.

Posted by: Anonymous at October 14, 2009 5:08 PM


Anonymous, go fuck yourself, you pantie-waisted sack of garbage.

Posted by: SK at October 14, 2009 5:11 PM


Posted by: Anonymous Tranzi at October 14, 2009 11:41 AM- "In the UK, the popular belief..."

The "popular belief" amongst assorted maggots, only. The communists in the Politiburo, the quangoes, the new STASI, reprobates in the marxist re-education system, the propaganda union, the muslims and other 3rd world imported dregs, and the deranged local marxist internationalists. Amongst human beings, the majority, not so much. They are either proud of their heritage, or not moved by nationalism, but view it as a poisitive. However, in the communist state, "popular belief" is whatever PRAVDA says it is. And INGSOC's STASI is always ready to enforce it.


Posted by: Anonymous Tranzi at October 14, 2009 11:41 AM- "...is that anyone who puts the Union flag or the St George cross flag in their window or their car is a total fascist, which when you think about it makes complete sense."

To a communist.


Posted by: Anonymous Tranzi at October 14, 2009 11:41 AM- "...Maybe the Democrats feel the same way..."

Of course they do. The Democrats serve International Socialism now.


Posted by: Anonymous Tranzi at October 14, 2009 11:41 AM- "...when they see American citizens put up flags and demand that everyone acknowledge their nationalism."

Spoken like a true marxist. According to you, anyone displaying the flag, "demands acknowledgement" of their nationalism. The reflexive communist rage you experience at the mere sight of the flag is NOT a "demand of acknowledgement" from the owner. You are quite free to ignore it, and NOT claw at your face, fling yourself upon the ground, screech with indignation, and rail at the "fascist" who offended your eyes. It's your choice, comrade.


Posted by: Anonymous Tranzi at October 14, 2009 11:41 AM- "...It either makes people tearful with pride or it makes them think that America is quite imperialistic."

So what?


Posted by: Anonymous Tranzi at October 14, 2009 11:41 AM- "...Flags don't solve anything, they just create further friction"

That's peculiar. You used Great Britain as an example of how "divisive" and "nasty", the display of a national flag is. How, like, totally "fascist" it all is, maaaaaaaaaaaan. Yet the STASI crackdown on flags like the St.George Cross, and Union Jack does not extend to the EUSSR rag. In fact, the banner in the EU federal state is being ENFORCED. And "rainbow" homo flags are being promoted. Non-socialist, national, non-Eurabian flag = "bad"? Communist, communitarian, Eurabian national flag = doubleplusgood? It all makes perfect sense.


Posted by: Anonymous Tranzi at October 14, 2009 11:41 AM- "...and the Democrats want to avoid this, as should any peace-loving person."

It's pretty obvious what the Democrats want.


Posted by: chairman soetoro's oprichniki at October 14, 2009 5:50 PM


If a building owner banned the flying of the fruity Gay Pride flag, Im sure the ACLU (American Communist Lawyers Union) would be right on it as an infringement of the 1st Amendment.

Posted by: Anonymous at October 14, 2009 6:15 PM


"Flags don't solve anything, they just create further friction and the Democrats want to avoid this, as should any peace-loving person."

Posted by: Anonymous at October 14, 2009 11:41 AM


We still have Freedom of Speech in the USA, unlike the Dhimmified UK, where only muslims preaching the overthrow of the Crown are permitted to speak freely. The Demonrats and sellout RINOS will never succeed in taking that right from us fully. If someone is offended by the American flag, they can protect their delicate sensibilities by staying the hell out of America.

Posted by: Refuter of Liberal Vermin at October 14, 2009 7:18 PM


It's hard to believe, given the number of similar stories that come out of the "People's Republic of Oregon", but not everybody who lives here is a moonbat.

Posted by: PabloD at October 14, 2009 8:05 PM


chairman soetoro's oprichniki:

Fucking hell, man...
Do you read what you write, or do the words just explode out of you like diarrhoea?
I knew this site was frequented by morons, but dear god, that comment was so hysterically bad it made me feel a bizarre mix of pity and boredom.

How could someone survive into adulthood with such a massive persecution complex?
Really, I'd like to know how you've managed thus far, not because I care about you, but out of sheer morbid fascination.

You need to see a psychiatrist, mate....

Posted by: Anonymous at October 15, 2009 1:03 AM


Ludicrous. I have quite liberal views on (legal) immigration but I don't think it's hyperbole to say that anyone who can't bear to see the American flag doesn't belong in the country.

Posted by: mandible claw at October 15, 2009 2:11 AM


Posted by: Anonymous and horny4guys at October 15, 2009 1:03 AM- "Really, I'd like to know how you've managed thus far, not because I care about you, but out of sheer morbid fascination."

Really? You're sweet on me, aren't you? You going to buy me drinks? You can try that blase, nonchalant routine, but it's obvious you expect some butt-hole action. I suppose you want to be my very special, caring friend, right?


Posted by: Anonymous and horny4guys at October 15, 2009 1:03 AM- "mate...."

I knew it.

Posted by: chairman soetoro's oprichniki at October 15, 2009 2:26 AM


Posted by: Anonymous at October 14, 2009 11:41 AM

In the UK, the popular belief is that anyone who puts the Union flag or the St George cross flag in their window or their car is a total fascist

Um, okay then. And this is supposed to be a good thing, that should be adopted elsewhere?

...which when you think about it makes complete sense.

I fail to see how.

Maybe the Democrats feel the same way when they see American citizens put up flags

That's fine. But don't go around pretending to be patriotic.

...and demand that everyone acknowledge their nationalism.

Lol. Aren't you the one talking about persecution complexes later in the thread?

By the way, displaying the flag = patriotism, not nationalism. Nice freudian slip tho.

It either makes people tearful with pride or it makes them think that America is quite imperialistic.

Lol. Flying an American flag in an apartment building in America constitutes "imperialism?"

You guys are really going to wear that word out.

Flags don't solve anything,

Solve what? What is the problem here?

...they just create further friction

Why? Why on earth would a national symbol of a country, being displayed on a private dwelling within that country, by a citizen of that country, create 'friction' ?

...and the Democrats want to avoid this,

You mean Democrats want to avoid the twinge of conscience at knowing that you can't help hating the country that gives you freedom and prosperity.

...as should any peace-loving person.

Hate to break it to you, but America is about the most effective and prolific bringer of peace that the world has known. Proven fact that is easily established.

So unless by 'peace' you really meant 'something else entirely,' then your comment is ludicrous.

Posted by: mandible claw at October 15, 2009 2:41 AM


Maybe it's the difference between what is understood by ‘patriotism’ in the US and in the UK.

In America, a patriot is someone who cares deeply for their country and isn't afraid to show it.

In the UK, a patriot is just another word for a fascist/imperialist/nationalist. We learned where national pride and wanting to rule the world gets you, so we had to seriously think about whether we even care about the concept of British superiority, and it turns out must of us don't.

I actually kind of pissed off when I see news reports telling us all how well we're doing in Afghanistan, because it's just the West telling the world how great we are and how we always know what's best for them.
I know it's a massive cliché, but there is no other word for it:
It is imperialism.

Posted by: Anonymous at October 15, 2009 3:32 AM


chairman soetoro's oprichniki:

I wasn't being friendly when I called you ‘mate’, it's just a term we use in Britain.
Rather like ‘man’ or ‘dude’ or ‘shithead’.

Posted by: Anonymous at October 15, 2009 3:36 AM


Posted by: Anonymous and horny4guys at October 15, 2009 3:36 AM- "chairman soetoro's oprichniki: I wasn't being friendly when I called you ‘mate’, it's just a term we use in Britain..."

You still trying to chat me up?


Posted by: chairman soetoro's oprichniki at October 15, 2009 3:55 AM


You still trying to chat me up?
Posted by: chairman soetoro's oprichniki

I dare say the wish is father of the thought....

Weren't we debating the nature of flags?
How did this become about chairman's burgeoning homosexuality?

Posted by: Aquatarkus at October 15, 2009 6:23 AM


anonytroll shouldn't post here directly after coming home from the pub. His apparently drunken regurgitations only demonstrate the shallow idiotic non-thinking of the leftists, who in fact are merely self serving, amoral, "me, me, me" types.

They stand for nothing except taking from others while providing nothing in return unless forced to. He whines about imperialism because he and his fellow travellers are responsible the cave-in of the British empire.

While I grant you that holding a country against its will it nearly impossible today, the friendy association of Britain with Canada, Australia, etc. is a model that others try to emulate. It's unravelling now because of clots like anonytroll.

You hate the American flag because it represents everything great that Britain used to be in its heyday and America is in this day. All you Euroweenies do. We embarass you because we stand so far above and ahead of you wallowing in your Euro-socialist model of indolence and sloth.

Not to worry though, the pub'll open again in a few hours. Feel free to reload.

Posted by: chuck in st paul at October 15, 2009 6:53 AM


In response to Aquatookus at October 15, 2009 6:23 AM...

http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/2009/09/folsom_street_k.html#comments

Posted by: Refuter of Liberal Vermin at October 15, 2009 7:09 AM


America really needs to just get over itself and learn to be humble.

Posted by: Anonymous at October 15, 2009 7:12 AM


Dear annon please DROP DEAD

Posted by: Flu-Bird at October 15, 2009 8:04 AM


-- " America really needs to just get over itself and learn to be humble." --

Thank you, eminent spokesperson for the current apologetic, humble and pussified liberals pervading the world.

If it weren't for the less than 'humble' Americans - Anonymous (And the rest of Europe) would be drinking Deutsche pilsner and snacking on bratwurst.

Some continually deny and ignore what 'humbleness', like Chamberlain's " Peace (read - APPEASEMENT) in our time " ignorance brought the world for the next 6 years...just a minor, humbling experience.

Ponder THAT awhile, loser.

Posted by: Unanimous at October 15, 2009 9:27 AM


"America isn't the centre of the universe, and it certainly isn't perfect and beyond being questioned.
Michael Moore understands this, but his beliefs go right over your head,"
Okay, you have officially lost the argument by attempting to bring up Michael Moore in a positive way, and implying the ridiculous assertion that the only reason why we don't bow at his feet and worship him is because we're supposedly too stupid to understand what he is saying.
News flash: His "Beliefs" (In other words, what he bellows in his obnoxious nasal voice in his films so that stoned college students and other liberal morons will believe him, love him ,and throw their money at him) do not go over our heads at all. We know fully well what he is trying to say. However, we also know that Michael Moore is a liar, a backstabber, an egomaniac, a tremendous hypocrite, and a generally bad man who uses a whole laundry list of extremely dishonest and unethical tactics in shooting his films. We also know that most of his assertions are a complete crock, brought about by him either twisting and perverting the facts, or flat- out lying, to try and make the audience draw false conclusions.
Getting back on topic, flying the flag from one's own home or vehicle isn't a sign of "Nationalism" or "Imperialism": It's a perfectly reasonable sign that one is proud of one's own country, and I'm glad to see the landlord reversed her decision.

Posted by: Adam at October 15, 2009 9:45 AM


And Bill O'Reilly doesn't use dirty tactics to gauge a response from his Conservative audience?

You can't tell me he never talks complete shit to get people to agree with him.

Posted by: Anonymous at October 15, 2009 2:57 PM


Anonymous, what is it that you do everyday at 5 PM? Your entire country STOPS WHAT THEY ARE DOING, to listen to the anthem and show their respect. Not that I disagree with that, I think its a wonderful idea, but what we consider to be patriot here is not for you, or anyone else from another country to comment on. The UK is shit anyways, you can't even make a decision without dragginf France, Italy, Germany and a handful of other countries along. So before you come and comment why or why not Americans are patriotic for displaying a flag, go open up a UK history book and shut your mouth.

Posted by: Andrea at October 16, 2009 7:40 AM


Anon:
1. Who cares about Bill O'Reilly? Pundits like him or Rush Limbaugh aren't as worshipped by the American right as you've been led to believe. I myself consider O'Reilly a windbag who occasionally makes a good point, but who I don't really consider worth watching often.
2. Assuming that O'Reilly does twist the facts in some ways on his show (I wouldn't really know, as again, I very rarely watch his show), that is NOTHING compared to the kinds of honestly disgraceful tactics Moore uses.
Consider these examples:
1. O'Reilly, to the best of my knowledge, has never slandered and betrayed an old friend for the sake of a sound byte, as Moore did to Larry Stecco in 'Roger & Me.'
2. O'Reilly has never referred to Americans as "The dumbest people on the planet," as Moore did during an interview in Britain (And yet Moore, like most America- bashing ultra- liberals, gets filled with righteous indignation whenever anyone dares to question his patriotism).
3. O'Reilly has never had the gall to doctor together several different speeches to try and portray a good man as a callous monster, as Moore did with Charlton Heston in 'Bowling for Columbine.'
4. O'Reilly has never had the idiocy to claim that the NRA is really just an offshoot of the Ku Klux Klan (Anyone with even the most basic knowledge of the histories of those respective groups would know what a ridiculous and completely wrong assertion that is), as Moore did in 'Bowling for Columbine.'
And the list goes on.

Posted by: Adam at October 16, 2009 9:54 AM