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The problem with bureaucracy is that it attracts the kind of people who enjoy lording power over others in mean and petty ways.

And some people want them to run health care.

If sporks are outlawed, then only outlaws will have sporks.

Moonbats have 'zero tolerance' for common sense.

I ought to know.

Exactly V the K, the same people who will love to make others wait in line longer, or make sure to have the "minorities" go first. Van Helsing, we need the email addresses for that school and flood it like some of us did for Zachary (I sent an email to the three addresses provided)

Would that school knife rule would apply to machetes and guillotines too?

On an other article I read it said he was also a member of the Army National Guard.
He is a soldier. Moonbats hate soldiers.
http://www.pressconnects.com/article/20091014/NEWS10/91014017/NY+Eagle+Scout+suspended+for+having+knife+in+car

Lansingburgh High School
320 Seventh Avenue
Troy, NY 12182
(518) 233-6806

Principal
Angelina Bergin
Lansingburgh High School
Principal
518-233-6806
http://www.lansingburgh.org/lhs/index.php
home #
652 Fourth Ave
Troy, NY 12182-2412
(518) 590-0012

Whalen said he is not considering a lawsuit.

Shoulda had a "safe" condom and a date with a 5th grader.
2010/2012/2013

Don't you understand? We must preemptively strike boys being boys whenever and wherever they are.

I remember once when a "student" (with gang affiliations) was accused of having a gun in his car. The school in order to be non profiling conducted a search of every car in the lot to check for guns. The "student" had lied about where his car was parked and his car never was searched. Why is profiling only allowed for Eagle Scouts?

I promised that if this ever happened to one of my children is school the first thing I would do would be to call all the local media and tell them that there’s trouble at the school and to send video trucks. Then I’d call the police and tell them that there’s weapons at the school. Once they arrived, I’d demand that every teacher, administrator, and down the line to the janitors open their vehicles for inspection. If there’s a tire tool –BUSTED. Any tools, like Phillips screwdrivers, - STABBING INSTRUMENT-BUSTED. A lot of cars are equipped with road flares-INCENDARY DEVICE-BUSTED. I’d demand that everyone be fired immediately and also arrested. NO TOLERANCE for any weapons, right? It’s time to stop the insanity.

Zero tolerance is how payback time is imposed on all the well behaved, responsible kids, so they will have a taste of how thugs and criminally inclined kids are treated for being... well, thugs and criminally inlined, which is, of course, discriminatory.

Being criminally inclined thugs is their "culture" and punishing them for it is oppression. (really!)

So, the goodie two-shoes kids deserve to experience misery, too, and are punished for being what they are; responsible, trustworthy kids.

To liberals, this is what fair and balanced looks like.

Congrats, America.

Does nobody appreciate the fundamentally right-wing nature of totalitarianism?
These laws were put in place to fight terrorism, so you only have yourselves to blame by being hysterical, reactionary and self-righteous.

So what buisness dose these school officials have sticking their big fat snouts into some students car anyway Its like a incedent i read of where school snoops suspended a young teenage girl becuase big snouted school officials found a knife under the floorboards of her car

The difference here, Anon, is that the Eagle Scout and the 6-year-old in the other story had no intention of using their implements for bodily harm of themselves or anyone else.

Not so the reform school criminals (and Gitmo terizts) who are where they are because they DID do harm to someone else.

A tool -- like guns, knives, computers, TV, airplanes, or money -- is just a neutral tool, until it is used for either good or bad.

Good = Boy Scout "being prepared", and a 6-year-old eating lunch

Bad = using a neutral tool to hurt another living person

Liberalism = punishing the law-abiders instead of the criminals

No, the anti-terrorism laws are being used to punish everyone, regardless of their intentions, and it's all your fault that these laws were passed.

Anon, you are flat out wrong about totalitarian regimes being fundamentally right-wing in nature. Right-wing regimes tend to oppose change, while left-wing regimes depend on constant change in order to survive. This is what Hanna Arendt, the brilliant political theorist said about totalitarianism:

"...if there is such a thing as a totalitarian personality or mentality, this extraordinary adaptability and absence of continuity are no doubt its outstanding characteristics."

Doesn't sound the least bit conservative to me. In fact, it sounds a lot like the perpetual motion machine, aka The Obama White House.

First of all, the administrators will probably feel good about themselves if he is denied entry to West Point. After all, they are saving him from foolishly joining the armed forces and putting himself in harms way.

Secondly, Anonymous has set himself up to be fooled by the lateral dualism of left-wing and right-wing politics. It escapes him that the second axis of the political compass is the dualism of Authoritarianism and Libertarianism.

The "Left is Good, Right is Bad" mentality is as banal as it is pretentious.

You're batting zero, anon. The first zero tolerance program was established in 1989, in NY, in response to drug use and violence it the schools. They were all over country by 1993 and they were not imposed by the government, but rather, implemented by school districts. The blame for these asinine programs lies squarely with educators.

These laws were put in place to fight terrorism, so you only have yourselves to blame by being hysterical, reactionary and self-righteous.

You lie.

These laws were put in place by liberal nanny-staters to address "school violence."

Judith pwned your troll ass.

I mean, if you're just going to totally make up sh-t like "Zero tolerance laws were put in place to fight terrorism," why don't you just go to DailyKos and claim Rush Limbaugh is a slaveowner.

Kids cant play old games like COPS & ROBBERS,COWBOYS & INDIANS becuase of a bunch of whinny liberal pasifist pansies running our school and becuase of the BS from some bunch of head shrinking idiots

Oh, the dumb has to burn, Anon.

That phone number had to be disconnected as well.

My high school had a gun safety course. The students had to help the teacher carry all those weapons up to the classroom from his car. But I grew up in that extreme right-wing nation called Canada.

What an administrator with any brains would have done is tell the kid, "I didn't see this. If I had seen a tiny knife I would have to suspend you, but I know you're too smart to bring a dangerous weapon to school. The tire iron in the OK though."

Zero Tolerance:

Conservatives created it:

"The term zero tolerance was first employed by President RONALD REAGAN's administration when it launched its War on Drugs initiative in the early 1980s. Some school districts embraced the initiative in an attempt to eradicate drug possession and drug use on school property. The policy became law, however, when Congress passed the Drug-Free Schools and Campuses Act of 1989 (Pub.L. 101-226, December 12, 1989, 103 Stat. 1928)."

Read more: http://law.jrank.org/pages/11439/Zero-Tolerance.html#ixzz0TwaOeXQf

Liberals oppose it:

http://www.delawareliberal.net/2009/10/06/zero-tolerance-is-zero-intelligence/

It's a conservative policy.

Idiots.

"hey you guys," we're talking about "pocket knives" not drugs, try to pay attention.

Oh yeah, but thanks for the reminder that liberals like drugs, I almost forgot...ROFLMAO!

According to you HYG...

Liberals oppose zero tolerance when it applies to drugs (you know, mind-altering substances)...

Yet they approve of zero tolerance when it comes to guns.

Hasn't it already been sufficiently proved that an armed society is a polite society... and that gun ownership tends to be a deterrent to criminals (never know who's gonna defend themselves)?

Democrat. The party of confusion, cognitive dissonance, moral bankruptcy and nanny-staters.

Congress passed the Drug-Free Schools and Campuses Act of 1989

Which party controlled congress in 1989?

"Left is Good, Right is Bad"

Well, after much consideration and research, that statement pretty much sums up my view of politics.
Its a generalisation, I know, but fuck it, it's true.

Seriously, practicality every despicable act in history was committed by a conservative(right), a nationalist(right) or an imperialist(right), with the exception of Stalin, who was fucked up in the head, and Pol Pot, who was a massive twat.

Zero tolerance = zero intelligence.

Reminds me of a book I read as a kid where the head of an English boarding school was found to be incompetent in that position, so they put her in charge of overseeing other school heads. She wasn't any good at that either, so "some friends got her into Parliament, where she lived happily ever after."

Anonymous @ 4.49...

Booth (confederate) shot Repub Pres Lincoln.
Czolgosz (anarchist) shot Repub Pres McKinley.
Guiteau (communalist) shot Repub Pres Garfield.
Schrank (pro term limits) shot former Repub Pres Teddy Roosevelt.
Zangara (anti-capitalist) tried vs Dem Pres FDRoosevelt.
Puerto Ricans (nationalists) tried vs Dem Pres Truman.
Oswald (communist) shot Dem Pres Kennedy.
Sirhan (anti-Israel) shot Sen Kennedy.
Fromme (environmentalist) tried vs Rep Pres Ford.

U.S. assassins are almost always leftists.

Now, run along and play.

Anon, you failed to mention the following leftist bastards (most of whom were absolute dictators):

Hitler
Mao Zedong
Kim Jong-Il
Saddam Hussein
Hugo Chavez
Che Guevara
Fidel Castro
Yasser Arafat
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad
Vladimir Lenin
Mengistu Haile Mariam
Ho Chi Minh
Mussolini
Tito
Salvador Allende
Juan and Eva Peron
Ante Pavelic (Leader of Ustashis during WWII)
Víctor Paz Estenssoro

Seriously, who are you thinking of from the right that comes any where close to matching the collective evil of the people on this list? (and it doesn't even include Stalin and Pol Pot)

Also, apparently you don't understand what imperialists/imperialism is... "The policy of extending a nation's authority by territorial acquisition or by the establishment of economic and political hegemony over other nations."

It's essentially the raping and pillaging of an "owned" territory, which amounts to slavery/worker abuse. And we all know who the party of slavery is... ding, Democrats.

Congratulations, you are out of your league.

There was a time when teachers and principals were allowed to use discretion and common sense in disciplinary matters, but school boards have been forced to come up with other options.

Zero tolerance results from the failure of liberal education policies that forbid the expulsion of dangerous and disruptive students, because after all every child is special, and if they're being bad it's just because we haven't reached them.

"The Republican Party organized in 1854. Besides opposition to slavery, the new party put forward a progressive vision of modernizing the United States—emphasizing higher education, banking, railroads, industry and cities, while promising
free homesteads to farmers." - Wikipedia

Does this sound like the modern Republican party? I don't think so. Don't try to claim credit for things the party did when its platform was fundamentally different then it is today.

HYG, do you think that the Republican party no longer giving away farm homesteads might have something to do with the fact we no longer have a frontier we're trying to settle? Just a thought...

It's a good thing these rules weren't in force at my high school. 90% of the male students would have been thrown out. I carried a 4 1/2" lock blade myself, openly in a case on my belt. One of my friends carried a 6" straight blade, openly on his belt. It was the late 70s though and people were expected to understand personal responsibility.

The student's real crime was demonstrating the ability to be self-reliant and not dependent on the gub'mint for rescue. You can't have that sort of individualism if you're trying to create a "socialist utopia."

Sorry he's getting bad advice that he doesn't have a legal claim against the school and administrators.

He actually does, it's quite a good one, and can hang these bastards by the wording of their own stupid policies that they have wrongfully applied in direct dereliction of their duty. That is, to avoid any appearance of "racism," their mindless liberal perversion of zero-tolerance equates the Eagle scout/soldier with a little pocket knife locked in his car the same as the gansta thug threatening students with a switchblade or glock.

The pertinent parts of the policy read:

"District personnel who interact with students are expected to use disciplinary action ONLY WHEN NECESSARY and to place emphasis on the students’ ability to grow in self-discipline."

Why was it necessary to pick on this Eagle Scout, he was threatinging no one with violence?

"The Board recognizes the need to make its expectations for student conduct while on school property or engaged in a school function SPECIFIC AND CLEAR. The rules of conduct listed below are intended to do that and focus on safety and respect for the rights and property of others. Students WHO WILL NOT ACCEPT RESPONSIBILITY for their won [sic] behavior AND who violate these school rules will be required to accept the penalties for their conduct."

He did not deny he had a knife and, because he is an honorable person, accepted their authority, however wrong.

"Students may be subject to disciplinary action, up to and including suspension from school, when they:

D.Engage in conduct that is violent. Examples of violent conduct include, but are not limited to: ...
3. Possessing a weapon. Authorized law enforcement officials are the only persons permitted to have a weapon in their possession while on school property or at a school function."

How do you "engage in conduct that is violent" by merely having a 2 in. pocket knife in your car. How is this expectation "SPECIFIC AND CLEAR." Besides, using the districts own parlance, the 2 in. knife cannot be considered a "weapon"

Weapon is defined as "An instrument of attack or defense in combat, as a gun, missile, or sword." http://www.thefreedictionary.com/weapon. As Matthew also points out in the video, the little pocket knife is not considered a weapon under NY State Law. Under this plain definition and the district's policy, you have to show the person had "possession" and an intent to use the instrument in attack or defense in combat to qualify an possessing an instrument as a "weapon." He told them he did not have a knife on his person. There is nothing in the policy about having it locked up in your car as "possessing a weapon."

http://www.lansingburgh.org/policies/5300.30_prohibited_student_conduct.pdf

I say he should sue the crap out of this utterly corrupt district and the involved administrators personally. If he doesn't get into West Point because of this overt abuse of authority and deprivation of due process, his damages are mental anguish, loss of opportunity, loss of income for being a commissioned West Point officer for life, and puntived damages.

Oops. Looks like you're right, JudithM. Why do I keep showing up here every day to get my ass kicked? It makes no sense.

Maybe I need to go do something better with my time than run my mouth on a conservative blog.

Hasn't it already been sufficiently proved that an armed society is a polite society...

Will there EVER be sufficient proof in the liberal mind?
I think that most liberals, deep in their darkest recesses, know that they themselves can't be responsible, to not "just snap" one day and commit murder, rape, or other evil deeds, and therefore project this onto all of us. Hmmm..., that might explain why they are always excusing criminals-those poor, misunderstood, discriminated-against, downtrodden unfortunates who never caught a break in this mean, racist imperialist patriarchy we live in.

hey you guys:

I know exactly how you feel.
It's like pissing in the wind trying to get any reasonable point across here.

These people are arseholes, but we can't deny them their freedom of speech.

Yeah, and I really shouldn't use MY freedom of speech to run my mouth on subjects I know nothing about. I think I'll run back to HuffPo where my left-wing, moonbat mental masturbation will be more welcome.

CCS, I know exactly what you're saying. My husband and his father used to carry a pocket knife at all times and I can't tell you how many times that thing was a lifesaver for it's screwdriver, or it's can opener, or it's KNIFE. It looks like what the libs really have a problem with is the boy scout motto "be prepared". I personally think that pocket knives and eating utensils should be banned from these blanket "no weapon" policies. If a student abuses either of these two implements, send them to reform school, but I think we all know that the types of knives favored by gang members are NOT pocket knives of kitchen knives, they are switchblades, because they are easy to carry and easy to extract.

Fire the entire faculty and administration and start over. Continue until they get it right.

So basically, the Conservative view of ‘how things need to be done’ in America is the same as the final scene of Reservoir Dogs - you have your gun pointed at someone else and they have their gun pointed at you, until one of you snaps and you all die.

Of course, if this boy were black or Muslim, would he have been questioned, had his car searched, or suspended?? Heck ,no! His only crime here is that he is WHITE, MIDDLE-CLASS, AND RESPONSIBLE!!!

Heck ,no! His only crime here is that he is WHITE, MIDDLE-CLASS, AND RESPONSIBLE!!!
Posted by: Andrea

Whoah, calm down, love.