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October 8, 2009
Free "Obama Money" Leads to Near Riot
Posted by Gregory of Yardale at October 8, 2009 9:43 AM
What happens when a whole crowd of Model Obama Citizens queue up for free money from the government:
Hat Tip: Knowledge Is Power
Comments
Toss pearls to the hogs...
Posted by: Jay B at October 8, 2009 9:50 AM
So these lazy bums decided to wait 'til the last day to claim their free, taken from someone actually earning it, money...
All of them, garbage.
Posted by: AmericanToTheCore at October 8, 2009 9:52 AM
Get used to that sort of stuff folks. That'll be Obama's desperate efforts to remain relevant. Toss money to blacks and poors to keep their vote. No platform, no promise. Toss them money.
Posted by: Jay B at October 8, 2009 9:53 AM
Oh, one more thing.
The woman around 1.20 or so had the nerve to say something about "accountability." Oh the irony.
Instead of saying PEOPLE need to be held accountable for their situation (personal responsibilty?), she rags on the officials of Detroit for not being accountable for the "organization" of this clusterfuck.
A few words. Stop bitching, grow up, get a job, earn your keep.
Posted by: AmericanToTheCore at October 8, 2009 9:56 AM
Thank you Obama?!!! Thank my grandkids.
Posted by: IOpian at October 8, 2009 10:01 AM
The people we see here haven't worked a day of their lives. They are certain they are worth money just because they're alive. Again... call me racist but how come there are almost no whites in there? A deep sea of black skins waiting for their next handouts...
Posted by: Jay B at October 8, 2009 10:05 AM
I loooooved the lady that said she got up at 5:30am to be there - man, I'd bet her for 1/2 her monthly GOVT WELFARE check that that was the first time she ever got up that early for anything - lmao -
and one guy said he was homeless? sheesh I heard over 50% of the homes in detroit are abandoned - just move right on it - you DESERVE IT FOR DOING NOTHING!!
Posted by: carmen at October 8, 2009 10:10 AM
Jay B, the crowd only reflects the racial make-up of the area. If "free money" were handed out in San Francisco or Seattle, there would be plenty of white hippies trying to get their grubby, worthless hands on the money, too.
Posted by: V the K at October 8, 2009 10:11 AM
There are almost no whites since the blacks stated that they didn't want them in the hood. The whites were smarter and moved out, letting the hoods turn into bombed out war zones.
Boy I wish I owned a liquor store in the area. The guy would become a millionaire in a few days after the checks reach the masses.
Posted by: Stephana at October 8, 2009 10:12 AM
Uhhh - - - Where were the white folks? The only white person in the whole vid was the reporter, who was working. Not having been to Detroit recently, I guess it must now be 100% black.
And did I get this right - $15M of our money just to these people in Detroit? No wonder, "We love you, Barack Obama."
Buying votes with your tax dollars, the Democrat way. Sheeh....
Posted by: LouieLouie at October 8, 2009 10:13 AM
these people actually believe it is snowjobama is the one with deep pockets giving them HIS money!
Posted by: nancz at October 8, 2009 10:23 AM
Yeah, how generous of Obama! Look, he's showering us with his money and totally not other people's!
Posted by: Jay B at October 8, 2009 10:35 AM
First off, Gregory, taking a shot at me because I am in Detroit? Real classy. While Detroit politics has been "thuggish", "irresponsible" and "arrogant" and reflects on the citizens of Detroit poorly. However, many of these citizens are struggling to keep their homes, or lights on or keep their vehicle. Detroit is not the only hit part of Michigan. Livonia, the heavily white, heavily Republican city of the 11th District is suffering miles of empty businesses, which is a loss of revenue for the city. Many are experiencing that. That said, it is awfully shortsighted of you to put this on Obama, or even the people of the Metro area.
Detroit does half the work for anyone to criticize it. Yet, our Governors are almost evenly split between the two parties, with the edge going to the GOP. In this state both parties have made horrible choices, yet you are willing to attack and poke fun at people. Screw you! Likely Dave could actually agree with me, most major cities are struck with strife right now. Detroit's long history of first in and last out is proving it's honesty again. Let me ask, since Jay B is convinced "The people we see here haven't worked a day of their lives", again, screw you! How many were bankrupt over their own or a family member's health? How were bankrupted over a divorce? How many suffered a pre-existing condition in the form of bi-polar, other forms of depression or a disability? You seem to think that those who have less than you do are less than you? You don't know these people.
Attc, I would expect a little better from you, as you do show glimpses of smarts. But, "get a job", you do realize that in our country statistics show there is 6-10 people for every one job, right? Detroit is not going to be fixed overnight, that is a given. The work is long overdue. However, those that vote on the funding again, are fairly split. Those saying "no" are Republicans. I suggest you guys look up the work the Illitch and Karmanos families have done. Mostly Fox Town area, and it pains me to say, even Kilpatrick's efforts on the riverfront and casino properties. For the latter, it is proof that both the private and public sector can create something good.
Posted by: ghost of wellstone at October 8, 2009 10:36 AM
"Thank you Barack Obama for redistributin' and squandering other folks' grandchildren's inheritance, but next time I don't make me have to get up so early and wait." This "stimulus spending" only stimulates lazy bums to get their butts out of bed to get another freebie stolen from taxpayers.
Some low-life ACLU lawyer is probably looking into whether she/he/it can sue the city for inconveniencing these poor Obamanuts to have to come down and wait in a long line to get paws on US taxpayer's money for nothing.
Posted by: Clingtomyguns at October 8, 2009 10:37 AM
That said, it is awfully shortsighted of you to put this on Obama, or even the people of the Metro area.
Except that it's Obama's stimulus money these people are grubbing for, and the video shows them thanking Obama for it.
And except that its the people of Detroit who are participating in the money-grubbing and near riot-making.
Posted by: V the K at October 8, 2009 10:40 AM
Also, Goatse can cheer for a few isolated pockets of development, but does that excuse the fact that every supermarket chain has pulled out of the city because the city couldn't provide enough basic services to keep them from losing money? Or that Detroit has arrived at its present condition after being run entirely by far left Democrats for the past forty years?
Posted by: V the K at October 8, 2009 10:43 AM
So-stoned just accept the fact that sewertroit has been run for decades by liberals that take from the working and give to the lazy,it's the fair thing to do,right? Granted unemployment is hurting people but sewertroit being a crap hole is hardly new news. Face it wealth distribution helps cause this and face the fact that you support this type of government.
Posted by: Farmer Ted at October 8, 2009 10:45 AM
Detroit, Chicago, L.A. etc have been run by liberals for over 40 years. You'd think they'd be utopias by now
Posted by: JamesJ at October 8, 2009 10:46 AM
Don't you know it's the 'hostile white suburbs' in the famous words of Coleman A. Young that're keeping Detroit in a pit of despair?
Never mind the crony network that results in the likes of Kwame Kilpatrick and the 'mysterious' death of a stripper at his inauguration party. Or Monica "I got pwned by an eighth grader, and now have a felony conviction" Conyers.
These are the people that get routinely elected and relected, and have done their best to keep Detroit a bombed out s*!thole since 1968.
Posted by: chunsktyle at October 8, 2009 10:50 AM
What completely, totally baffles me is the Liberal ideology. It sent California to the point of emitting IOUs. It sent to the toilet every socialist civilization. Yet the Liberals do all they can to force it on bigger and bigger societies. Do they think "If it's big enough it'll work"? "This time, we'll really do it fine"? What complete idiot must they be to dedicate their carreer to a cause thaT's been proved wrong for the past hundred years?
Posted by: Jay B at October 8, 2009 10:51 AM
V, "pockets"? So, you believe every city can be fixed overnight? Tell that to the people of Memphis, St. Louis, Indianapolis etc. I will concede Detroit banked on a once thriving auto industry, which consisted of many Union workers, which your side hammered for those 30 years. Jobs went to the South where workers didn't demand $70 an hour for turning a screwdriver. Yet, you wish to blame the Democrats who have run the city as a one-party fiefdom for forty years? Talk about a political hack.
Posted by: ghost of wellstone at October 8, 2009 10:52 AM
I know there aren't a lot of other cities that, through corruption and incompetence, have driven every supermarket out of the city. There aren't too many others that you can look at on Google Maps and see wilderness re-establishing itself over extensive areas of city land.
And the cities that are in more or less permanent decline ... Buffalo, Rochester, Newark, Philadelphia... all have one thing in common; one-party Democrat control.
Posted by: V the K at October 8, 2009 10:56 AM
Everyone in that video, according to the moronic liberal logic, (I know, I know, it is an oxymoron having the words liberal & logic side by side) is a VICTIM of the SYSTEM?
Cry me a friggin river....spouse and I have held FIVE (5!!!!) jobs together (simultaneously) to make ends meet. Taking a handout should be embarrassing.......to a proud American. But these people are anything but proud Americans. All the hooting and 'hollering and COMPLAINING. It is a disgusting display of human shapes acting like filthy animals.
Posted by: carmen at October 8, 2009 10:58 AM
Hey Well Stoned, haven't you noticed the problem here? Crowds cheering for free money, complaining to have gotten up early for free money, people thanking Obama for money that's not his he took elsewhere. It's the liberal atitude of "Give me things, I deserve them" that's the problem. When this will plague all of America, feel free to keep blaming Bush, your mind will snap back in place soon enough when you'll be on your fifth year of welfare, not remembering what it was to get up early, go to work and come back in the evening, spent but content.
Posted by: Jay B at October 8, 2009 10:58 AM
The unions got hammered ???!!!! Yeah that's why they had their own country club, got %80 pay for refusing a reassignment, got paid $40 and hour to attach a steering wheel and limo healthcare to boot. Give it up so-stoned you've been brain-washed by libs and there is no hope for you. Now skeedattle on over to the kos where you will feel more at home.
Posted by: Farmer Ted at October 8, 2009 10:58 AM
The unionists demand $70 an hour in pay and benefits for low-skilled jobs, but whine if the companies want them to chip in a $20 co-pay for a doctor visit. Then, they're shocked when the car companies can't turn a profit and have to lay them off. Then, they continue to draw full salaries for two years after they get laid off while doing nothing.
But Republicans are to blame for all of Michigan's problems. Right.
Posted by: V the K at October 8, 2009 11:07 AM
Unions are like a cancer to the economy. Fundamentally a good idea, it got corrupted because it keeps demanding and never gives.
Posted by: Jay B at October 8, 2009 11:12 AM
How many people would be there if they were handing out job applications?
Posted by: WRF at October 8, 2009 11:31 AM
"The unionists demand $70 an hour in pay and benefits for low-skilled jobs" V, that is a false Fox talking point. With the benefits included the amount hourly is about $70 an hour. Further, corruption in both parties is not unheard of. The Democratic mainstay needs to concede alot of blame, but the on the state level the state GOP does for funding.
V, stick with me here, I am sick but will return. You and I are always here so no big deal. That said, look up the Michigan political system, it is a mess. I am currently writing talking points for two different candidates. One a conservative who wanted a liberal perspective, and one who wants me to moderate him. Also, every state takes federal help, yet in Mi. 11th Dis. our Congressman has not made an appearance in the Township in over 4 years, our new Supervisor has made numerous concessions on benefits, and the current and 2 previous Governors are absent on party plans. Go figure.
Posted by: Anonymous at October 8, 2009 11:32 AM
That guy lives with his grandmother, but he's homeless? I didn't realize that they had redefined "homeless" to mean "not owning a home", but I can't say that I'm surprised.
"You can't get rid of poverty by giving people money" -- P.J. O'Rourke
Posted by: ent at October 8, 2009 11:36 AM
hey Welstoned, where did you get that number that there's 8 to 10 people for every job?? Is that in Detroitistan?? Then perhaps that's correct.
HOWFLAMINGEVER...
Get these lazy asses on a bus to a city that DOES have jobs.
[gee Chuck, now there's a thought!]
{Gads I'm just So-o-o-o flaming brilliant} /sarc
Posted by: chuck in st paul at October 8, 2009 11:38 AM
Posted by: JamesJ at October 8, 2009 10:46 AM = PRICELESS!
Posted by: nancz at October 8, 2009 11:40 AM
Free money! Whoohoo! I deserve whatever it is I want!
Posted by: Ghost of Work Ethic at October 8, 2009 11:58 AM
So-stoned writing to politicians...NOW that will things accomplished.
Posted by: Farmer Ted at October 8, 2009 12:00 PM
In fairness to so-stoned I believe he really thinks he is talking to two politicians. The reality of it is they are actually sockpuppets he's talking to.
Posted by: Farmer Ted at October 8, 2009 12:06 PM
"First off, Gregory, taking a shot at me because I am in Detroit? Real classy."
ghost of wellstone at October 8, 2009 10:36 AM
Boo whoo, take your lumps like a man, Wellstoned.
You're a asshat and a cry baby.
Posted by: Amused As Hell at October 8, 2009 12:14 PM
Bottom line: Detroit is a Petri dish where leftist policies and identity politics have been implemented for 40 years. Behold the (totally predictable) outcome.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 8, 2009 12:21 PM
How many people would be there if they were handing out job applications?
Posted by: WRF at October 8, 2009 11:31 AM
That's absolute ownage right there.
An economics professor at a local college made a statement that he had never failed a single student before,
but had once failed an entire class.
That class had insisted that Obama's socialism worked and that no one would be poor and no one would be rich, a great equalizer.
The professor then said, "OK,
we will have an experiment in this class on Obama's plan".
All grades would be averaged and everyone would receive the same grade so no one would fail and no one would receive an A.
After the first test, the grades were averaged and everyone got a B.
The students who studied hard were upset and the students who studied little were happy.
As the second test rolled around, the students who studied little had studied even less and the ones who studied hard decided they wanted a free ride too so they studied little.
The second test average was a D!
No one was happy.
When the 3rd test rolled around, the average was an F.
The scores never increased as bickering,
blame and name-calling all resulted in hard feelings and no one would study for the benefit of anyone else.
All failed, to their great surprise, and the professor told them that socialism would also ultimately fail because when the reward is great, the effort to succeed is great but when government takes all the reward away, no one will try or want to succeed.
Posted by: ITSAJEEPTHING at October 8, 2009 12:26 PM
Looks like a casting call for a Tarzan movie. Glad to see no one is starving... more fat asses there than at a mile long Chinese Buffet.
Posted by: Lord Crimson at October 8, 2009 12:27 PM
do realize that in our country statistics show there is 6-10 people for every one job, right?
I presume you mean in Detroit, not elsewhere (otherwise your comment makes no sense). With that presumption, let me ask you this: why is no one building businesses and creating employment in Detroit? What promotes business formation? Low taxes, a reasonable regulatory environment, a pro-business attitude, access to an educated workforce with a good work ethic. Does that sound like Detroit?
However, those that vote on the funding again, are fairly split. Those saying "no" are Republicans.
"Funding" aka "give-away." No one ever gets prosperous from handouts. Where does the "funding" come from? Taxes. How does one increase "funding?" Raise taxes. See the previous paragraph.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 8, 2009 12:29 PM
No one is building businesses in Detroit because they want to live, not be robbed or killed by some animal.
Posted by: Stephana at October 8, 2009 12:38 PM
Detroit cops should run a program giving out applications for free Obamoney. ID everybody on the way in and if they have no outstanding warrants, they get an application otherwise its off to jail.
The savings on chasing all these offenders around Detroit all night long will pay for the program.
Posted by: Shooter1001 at October 8, 2009 12:41 PM
However, those that vote on the funding again, are fairly split. Those saying "no" are Republicans.
Wealth and jobs and financial security are built by men such as the Edisons and Fords and Gates of history. They didn't need government funding. Financial security is built on free enterprise and industry and not on government funding.
The Left remind me of pets. They live in the house of civilization like our cats and dogs live in our homes but, just like our pets, the Left have no clue as to what caused the house to be built and no clue as to where their food comes from except that it is always there in the cupboard.
Posted by: Kevin R. at October 8, 2009 1:44 PM
"...do realize that in our country statistics show there is 6-10 people for every one job, right?"
I won't dispute your claim, but I will ask these two questions:
Hasn't unemployment GONE UP since the Donkeys came into power in '07?
Since there is such a shortage of jobs (If you are correct), don't you think we should stop ILLEAGAL ALIENS from crossing our borders to seek work, or at least let them know that there are NO JOBS to be had?
Posted by: KHarn at October 8, 2009 2:07 PM
i like rush's take on this: these people are ideal citizens in "obama'a america".
Posted by: weewilly at October 8, 2009 2:10 PM
What a great little lesson, ITSAJEEPTHING. I would also point out at the obvious madness of doing something over and over that's been proved wrong in the last hundred years but I like your modern tale a lot more. Too bad a teacher like that would get removed from any public school for not selling Obama.
Posted by: Jay B. at October 8, 2009 2:32 PM
Oh and Kharn, let's not forget easing Union demands instead of giving them the control of the auto industry (watch them fail) so the industry can hire more people and giving tax cuts to small enterprises so they hire more as well and develop. Basic economy for anyone who's been to school.
Posted by: Jay B. at October 8, 2009 2:35 PM
one well placed JDAM................
Posted by: greedy white devil at October 8, 2009 2:39 PM
All I see is eyes and teeth....
Posted by: Fred at October 8, 2009 2:42 PM
Hey!!!! Where are all the white folk?!
Oh yea it's a week day they must be at WORK.
"pay my little mortgage"
What the FUCK!!
What a bunch of LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSERS!
Wellstoned, these are your people?
BWAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!
The liberal utopia.....yea right. The preview of the America to be.
Posted by: Dave at October 8, 2009 2:49 PM
Behold friends, those who will hungrily suck at the welfare teat now. None of them are even bothered to be at a massive handout fest, they thank Obama, they complain about getting up early (Because waking up at 2 in the afternoon daily sure is tiring, eh?) and they're happy their mortgage is getting paid.
Posted by: Jay B. at October 8, 2009 2:53 PM
Horrendous.
Its interesting that usually in a predominately black crowd doing something stupid, journalists inevitably find the white guy or light-skinned black.
Here we don't see that. I guess this is the face of American socialism.
And BTW: this is greed, not need.
Posted by: Fiberal at October 8, 2009 3:29 PM
Where all da white women at?
Posted by: Hillman at October 8, 2009 3:30 PM
Great analogy, Kevin R. And like dogs, they love their masters without reservation.
Posted by: ent at October 8, 2009 3:44 PM
I see this liberal shit on a daily basis.
It runs rampant here in Memfrica.
Love how lefties like wellstoned, Maxy's silver dildo,and candy andy champion these FAT ASSS LOOOOOOSERS! Oh yea where are all the blacks that made it? Why don't they help their communities?
I know.....
They are greeeeeeeeeeedy black looooser dipshits!
The left is so pitifully pathetic.
Posted by: Dave at October 8, 2009 3:58 PM
What kind of judgment does this administration have?
Not only is it patently immoral to take from one man to give to another, but to target one area for hand outs is discriminatory.
Ostensibly, there are other indigents who would also crawl on their bellies for a handout.
Targeting Detroit only (predominately black) is discriminatory.
The federal government in order to give "assistance" to one area, MUST declare that area a DISASTER AREA!!
....Oh yeah, Detroit... wait a minute...
Posted by: Fiberal at October 8, 2009 3:58 PM
Hillman
I extend to you a laurel, and hardy handshake.
Posted by: Itsabigcountry at October 8, 2009 3:59 PM
As usual Gost of W and the rest of his leaching communists have ZERO ability to refute the obvious effects caused by decades of the communist policies doled out by his liberal/progressive/democrat/socialist/communist masters.
It's also interesting that the standard or logo of the communist mesiah they follow is a ZERO!
How sad that NONE of them can figure out that adding ZERO'S to a problem doesn't solve it but just makes it worse.
I guess if they hadn't been so miserably failed by the socialist idoctrination program or public schools as they call them then they would know that a ZERO is worth nothing.
Alas these communists for some reason still feel compelled to convince those of us who can do math that a ZERO has some value.
I wonder if it's painful for them when they figure out that worshiping a ZERO has a lot of consequences?
Posted by: Michelle at October 8, 2009 4:04 PM
Michelle,
Good points, and also remember what a ZERO like BO can do to large numbers.
For example, let BO = ZERO.
Then $10 Trillion x BO = 0
Or, a short-hand way of modeling BO's monetary policies.
Posted by: Fiberal at October 8, 2009 4:35 PM
ITSAJEEPTHING, can I get some more info on your economics professor story?
Posted by: Stephan at October 8, 2009 5:07 PM
What a pathetic group of small minded, greedy people here. Aside from a couple of you, all I see is "I got mine!!!!!"
As far as the worker per job ratio, sorry all you do is read right-wing echo chambers that the WSJ, and NYT actually report on a story that effects all of us.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/27/business/economy/27jobs.html
Calling this "greed and not need" is downright stupid. If a mother of 2 has a boyfriend or husband leave and she seeks out assistance to pay a mortgage or rent to prevent homelessness, is that greed? Or how about a man being laid off in the middle of a divorce. Does he pay those bills, or pay his rent? Or a family of four, who's mother is diagnosed with breast cancer and the father is laid off? The list goes on and on, and your idea is to allow things to get even worse. After all of your bitching about "death panels", I have to say, we have one...it's the Republican party. Detroit is not the only city facing crisis unless you live in a fairytale.
Michelle, our country has seen numerous battles with recession. They always immediately follow a republican White House. The Bush tax cuts did not lead to jobs, the Reagan tax cuts did not lead to jobs. Not to mention the monies spent on overseas affairs that led to war. They also widened the gap between the rich and poor.
Posted by: ghost of wellstone at October 8, 2009 5:39 PM
Another interview on the street!
Why are you here? To gets some money..What kind of Money? Obama money
"I don't know where he got it from, but he's giving it to us"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qG_dqC6vBc&feature=player_embedded
Posted by: Bill at October 8, 2009 5:44 PM
Posted by: ghost of wellstone at October 8, 2009 5:39 PM
Ghost! Look at that video a little closer. Do you see any people that are starving? Check out those attitudes, why don't you? These idiot leaches are of a culture that the government owes them. I wonder how much money these ghetto fat cats have put into the system. HUH? You know better, you live around these "thieves" of the system. No more free rides.
We don't owe them SHIT!
Posted by: Dave at October 8, 2009 5:45 PM
Dave, what would you have the people of the country do? Please do tell. The jobs are scarce. Would prefer to see things get worse? Reports are stating there were 60,000 plus people at Cobo Arena. So these are all "thieves and ghetto fat cats"? We have spent over a trillion in Iraq and Afghanistan and you wish to complain the 25,000,000 is being spent on the 5,000 that received assistance? You are confusing a hand up with a hand out. I concede there are abuses in the federal assistance programs, however, should we fail to assist those in need, we would bear witness to things being worse.
Posted by: ghost of wellstone at October 8, 2009 6:00 PM
Yes ghost you could say that. I am fed up with this mentality. Ghost you and I both know the difference between the ghetto mentality, like the one displayed in the video, and someone out of a job. You know where I'm coming from because after all we live in similar demographics.
I will have to agree with you on the Afghan war. I'm ready to bring our guys home. Afghanistan is worthless to us. I don't want to lose like the lefties do, how ever. Instead of sending 40,000 pairs of boots over there I would prefer a troop withdrawal and sending 40,000 global hawks and predator drones armed to the teeth to bomb them on an hourly basis. Probably cost less.
Posted by: Dave at October 8, 2009 6:10 PM
What a pathetic group of small minded, greedy people here. Aside from a couple of you, all I see is "I got mine!!!!!"
No, for most of us it's "I worked my ass off, didn't break the law, didn't have 6 kids out of wedlock and EARNED mine"
Posted by: Anonymous at October 8, 2009 6:10 PM
I would just like to walk down the street one time without being attacked by these animals. Won't happen though since the animals are the most racist pigs on the planet.
Thank god for Mr. Colt and Mr Wesson. The only safe way for a man not of color to walk into a colored area.
The opposite is not true though, blacks can pass freely through the non bombed out hoods because they are not populated by blacks.
I feel sorry for the real black people, they are being dragged down by these worthless getto animals.
Posted by: Stephana at October 8, 2009 6:11 PM
I feel sorry for the real black people, they are being dragged down by these worthless ghetto animals.
Posted by: Stephana at October 8, 2009 6:11 PM
You know the difference, obviously.
Can't explain that to bleeding heart lefties.
Posted by: Dave at October 8, 2009 6:19 PM
Dave, there is a difference, I will agree with you. However, in the video, the woman who stated she was knocked down, appeared in genuine need of assistance. Yet, 60,000 were there. Old, young, widowed, single, etc. Historically both of our cities have seen their share of highs and lows, however, without assistance the lows could have been worse. The answer from the right is charity, the answer from the left is to try and not let the bottom fall completely out. Find me a Church that could help 60,000 people.
Posted by: ghost of wellstone at October 8, 2009 6:25 PM
We have spent over a trillion in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Wrong.
http://bridgetdgms.wordpress.com/2009/09/23/obama-will-spend-more-on-welfare-in-the-next-year-than-bush-spent-on-entire-iraq-war/
"During the entire administration of George W. Bush, the Iraq war cost a total of $622 billion, according to the Congressional Research Service.
President Obama’s welfare spending will reach $888 billion in a single fiscal year–2010–more than the Bush administration spent on war in Iraq from the first “shock and awe” attack in 2003 until Bush left office in January."
http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/natsec/RL33110.pdf
"Congress has approved a total of about $864 billion for military operations, base
security, reconstruction, foreign aid, embassy costs, and veterans’ health care for the three
operations initiated since the 9/11 attacks: Operation Enduring Freedom (OEF) Afghanistan and
other counter terror operations; Operation Noble Eagle (ONE), providing enhanced security at
military bases; and Operation Iraqi Freedom (OIF)."
That's less than a trillion.
Posted by: AmericanToTheCore at October 8, 2009 6:26 PM
Not just a church but community churches. They help the people in their communities. What about those affluent blacks? Oh yea you hear about some but from what I gathered most of them ignore their communities. At least that what happens here a lot. Those people in the video from what I saw are losers looking for a free ride with the exception of the ONE that lost her job. I could tell by the tone of the voices most were there for a free lunch.
Posted by: Dave at October 8, 2009 6:34 PM
Attc, that is not "wrong" as I included both wars in my statement.
Posted by: ghost of wellstone at October 8, 2009 6:41 PM
Slavery never ended, it just changed masters. And the slaves no longer provide work for their masters, they provide votes.
End the slavery now as some black people have done by seeing through the MYTH of liberal 'compassion' and democrat 'justice'. When I saw the few black conservatives at last year's Republican National Convention, my first thought was that these people had finally escaped the liberal myth, they were truly intelligent, rational, reasonable, and mature Americans who would no longer be dragged back into the liberal barrel of democrat broken and undeliverable promises. This is what conservatism offers the black community -- a real way out of the ghetto by seizing the real liberty of the wide-open American dream. The images in this video are what is offered by liberalism and the Democratic party.
Posted by: lvb-rocks at October 8, 2009 8:26 PM
Well Stoned Ghost,
You are in serious need of help.
Here's a quote you should memorize by WJ O'Neil (seriously successful investor):
"In America, anyone can do anything by working at it. There are no limits placed on you. It all depends on your desire and your attitude. It makes no difference where you're from, what you look like, or where you went to school. You can improve your life and your future and capture the American Dream. And you don't need a lot of money to start."
I would add to that, that if you are in the dumps its bc of choices, not circumstances. That is an important distinction in becoming successful in America.
You should tattoo that last phrase on your forehead.
Liberals need to understand that: (1) People are poor because they are lazy, greedy and stupid. Those characteristics cause poverty in America, not the other way around. (2) It is no one's responsibility to pay for slothful people. There is no rational justification that requires me to pay for your sense of altruism that then rewards someone else's bad behavior.
I challenge you to convincingly formulate such a justification.
Finally, Compassion cannot be made compulsory.
Learn this, live it, love it, and instead of trying to convince everyone else to make a difference, you yourself may make a difference.
But then that's not really what you're interested in, is it?
Posted by: Fiberal at October 8, 2009 8:55 PM
When the truly rich people are taxed too much (remember John Lennon) they move where they can retain their wealth.
Socialism only works with other peoples money.
Once America is gone, these people will wait all day for a loaf of bread, there won't be any more obamamoney.
"If a man does't work, neither shall he eat."
Pray, work and protect the weak ones you can.
Lots of good solid posters here.
This hellish, illterate, force for "change" will bring about a real change and it is NOT going to be the one they expect.
Posted by: rightmind leftcoast at October 8, 2009 9:02 PM
ghost of wellstone feel free to provide ANY evidence of 10% and climbing unemployment during the Bush Presedency!!
You can't because things didn't even start to decline economically until Pelosi and Reed took over the house and senate. With the election of Odumbo it's only increased the rate of unemployment they are responsible for.
Regan was elected because of Carters falures, Clinton was elected because he lied, Bush was elected because Gore is retarded and Odumbo was elected because YOU are a delusionl retarded communist who fell for his lies.
You can keep lying to yourself if you want but don't waste time trying to convince us of your ridiculous delusions.
Posted by: Michelle at October 8, 2009 10:07 PM
60,000??
According to Ghost and the lamestream media, there were as many people on the street in Detroit in that video as there were Tea Partiers in Washington on September 12th.
Riiight.
Regarding unemployment, if liberals didn't insist on letting Mexican illegals flood the country, we would be having a shortage of workers, not a shortage of jobs, right now.
Posted by: ent at October 9, 2009 12:17 AM
ITSAJEEPTHING, can I get some more info on your economics professor story?
I do not have anything else on it; it was just in an email someone sent to me. I doubt it is even a true story, however the lesson is still applicable.
Posted by: ITSAJEEPTHING at October 9, 2009 6:43 AM
Michelle, this idea of awarding tax cuts to the top 2% because they will provide jobs looks great on paper. However, if the private sector is producing jobs, what are they being awarded for? You also say that the decline in the job market did not begin until 2006? It seems to me that many on the right justified an uneasy economy on 9/11. Which is it Michelle? The tough economy, joblessness, and record bankruptcies due to health care did not start in 2006.Get your story straight Michelle.
"YOU are a delusionl retarded communist who fell for his lies." And why was the Republicans were booted in 2006? Michelle, if you wish to debate thats's great, however, make up your mind if I am a socialist, a communist, a Nazi, liberal...I can't be all.
ent, many undocumented immigrants are leaving because there are not jobs. Further, Republicans have given out tax cuts to companies who moved shop overseas. There's that "tax cut" stuff again. We never had an illegal immigration problem, we had an illegal employer problem.
Posted by: ghost of wellstone at October 9, 2009 7:53 AM
Michelle, this idea of awarding tax cuts to the top 2% because they will provide jobs looks great on paper.
Tax cut's have proven consistantly since JFK that they lower unemployment, spur growth, and benifit everyone yet you still CANT point to any time that unemployment was ever 10% and increasing during Bush or prior to democrat control of congress.
However, if the private sector is producing jobs, what are they being awarded for?
I have no idea what you're asking here? clarify.....
You also say that the decline in the job market did not begin until 2006?
That's a historical fact, just look at the labor Dept numbers.
It seems to me that many on the right justified an uneasy economy on 9/11.
Are you implying that lower taxes and 5% unemploment is somehow bad? That's just idiotic if you are.
Which is it Michelle? The tough economy, joblessness, and record bankruptcies due to health care did not start in 2006.
Considering YOU still havent answered my original question, primarily because you cant my "story" hasn't changed. None of the finacial problems started until Pelosi and Reed took over.
why was the Republicans were booted in 2006?
Because they were being idiots and overspending just like Odumbo is now. They failed to enforce imigration, wasted money on pork and pet projects, and ignored the American public.
Michelle, if you wish to debate thats's great, however, make up your mind if I am a socialist, a communist, a Nazi, liberal...I can't be all.
Honey you're ALL of those listed, since each failed philosophy has tenanents that libeals have adopted and believe in. Oh and just so you know, NAZI's and Socialists are the same thing.
Posted by: Michelle at October 9, 2009 10:46 AM
This program is not fair. The poor people in federal housing do not qualify for any help.
Posted by: Dan at October 9, 2009 10:52 AM
Looks like a casting call for a Tarzan movie.
Posted by: Lord Crimson....he,he very funny = D
Posted by: underdogus at October 9, 2009 11:05 AM
Michelle, I never stated that unemployment was upwards of 10%, so it is a non-issue. Yet, under his tax cuts credit froze, and hiring slowed. Here I happened to leave out a word "However, if the private sector is not producing jobs, what are they being awarded for?" fixed.
Further, the Labor Dept. numbers do reflect well on on paper, however, when in 2005, 2006, 2007 tax credits were given to corporations who moved shop overseas, we saw a decline. And historically? Justify, when even in the archives of this site 9/11 and Katrina were used to justify a rough economy? Please do.
"Because they were being idiots and overspending just like Odumbo is now. They failed to enforce imigration, wasted money on pork and pet projects, and ignored the American public"
Tell me what exactly were they overspending on? War? Military Industrial Complex? Welfare recipients who were losing and/or gave up on work? Michelle, both parties are extremely flawed, yet we bear responsibility as we elected them. That said, as I stated to Dave last night, you cannot let the bottom completely fall out.Hoping Obama fails is alot easier than coming up with your own plan while your fellow citizens suffer.
Further, you may want to look up the difference between communism, socilaism, democratic socialism, Nazis, neo-liberalism, liberals, capitalists and democrats. You might learn something.
Posted by: ghost of wellstone at October 9, 2009 11:17 AM
Welcome to Obama's "Hope and Change". Thousands of people hoping to get some change transferred from other people's wealth. The new face of slavery, government enslavement.
Posted by: Bruce Pierce at October 10, 2009 5:06 AM


