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October 22, 2009
Moonbat Musicians Demand to Know What Music Was Used to "Torture" Terrorists
Posted by Gregory of Yardale at October 22, 2009 8:58 AM
Torture used to mean something. It used to mean the infliction of high levels of pain, assaults on the body that resulted in death or disfigurement. It used to mean broken bones, torn flesh, and lifelong disability. It used to mean whips, electrodes, branding irons, and other tools that even the Folsom Street crowd would have considered too much. When the Soviets and the Cubans did real torture to innocent people, the progressive left couldn't have cared less.
Then, for political reasons, the progressive left dumbed down the definition of torture until it meant simply "any discomfort of any degree or duration, however minor or brief, that a terrorist complains about." With this new definition, all kinds of things that result in no serious permanent damage --- pouring water on a terrorist's nose, turning up the air conditioning too high, leaving the lights on all night, solitary confinement, even raising one's voice during an interrogation --- met the definition and so could be used as a bludgeon against the United States and George W. Bush.
Also, prolonged exposure to really bad music is now also considered "torture" for the propaganda purposes of our enemies on the left. And now, the moonbat musicians of the left are demanding to know what music was used to "torture" detainees at Guantanamo Bay.
A high-profile coalition of artists -- including the members of Pearl Jam, R.E.M. and the Roots -- demanded Thursday that the government release the names of all the songs that were blasted since 2002 at prisoners for hours, even days, on end, to try to coerce cooperation or as a method of punishment. …
"In light of the patterns of widespread use of music as torture over the last seven years, difficulties in accessing these current detainees and the failure of the U.S. to explicitly rule out the use of loud music, the musicians' FOIA request is crucial for learning about the United States' past, present and even future use of music as a torture technique," said Jayne Huckerby, research director at the Center for Human Rights and Global Justice at the NYU School of Law.
Joining in the call for the release of information were dozens of musicians, including David Byrne, Billy Bragg, Steve Earle, Jackson Browne, Bonnie Raitt and T-Bone Burnett.
Because protecting a prisoner from having to listen to repeated playing of "Shiny Happy People" or The Barney Song is so much more important to the progressive left than saving innocent lives from being blown up.

Comments
Personally I would hit the terrorists with a mix of Barry Manilow and Dueling Banjos - lather rinse repeat.
Posted by: Mousey Tongue at October 22, 2009 9:22 AM
I'd rather be waterboarded for three hours straight than listen to Neil Diamond or Pink Floyd for the same period of time.
Posted by: V the K at October 22, 2009 9:25 AM
The dixie chicks could get me to spill my guts in a few seconds.
Posted by: Stephana at October 22, 2009 9:32 AM
Oh, this does seem to be a double-edged sword, doesn't it? How will these left-wing "artists" feel when they learn their music is torture to terrorists ears? This ought to be good.
Posted by: Judith M. at October 22, 2009 9:33 AM
3 minutes of hiphoprapshit and I would kill the interrogator.
Posted by: Would Rather Listen to Rush at October 22, 2009 9:35 AM
It's funny that the left doesn't realize that Islamists don't hate us (Conservatives, many of us religious)... they hate the people that defend them. Hollywood, the music industry, etc. It's not about the troops in Saudi Arabia. It's about the 60x30ft Pepsi billboard with the half-nekkid chick on it that they truly object to as American imperialism.
Posted by: GS at October 22, 2009 9:40 AM
Playing any of those bands would be considered torture WITHOUT the volume being turned up.
Posted by: Farmer Ted at October 22, 2009 9:51 AM
Hey! Wait a minute. I like Pink Floyd. David Gilmore is an objectivist, which is, for all intent and purpose, a conservative who happens to be an atheist.
I do agree, though, that Brucie Springsteen and David Byrne(read voodoo priest) should be standard fair on an interrogators playlist.
Posted by: offitherheds at October 22, 2009 10:16 AM
I have two words for Eddie Vedder: Stupid Mop.
That's interesting, I'd like to see the list myself. It could be comedy gold.
Posted by: Karin at October 22, 2009 10:26 AM
David Byrne, Billy Bragg, Steve Earle, Jackson Browne, Bonnie Raitt and T-Bone Burnett.
Looks to me like a playlist for Gitmo.
Then a press release, that we use their recordings to torture people brutally. Laugh? You bet.
But why not go nuclear, and go 24/7 with...Air America? Bwahahaha1 At least then they'll have some listeners!
Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 22, 2009 10:31 AM
Shoulda tried Slim Whitman at 100 dB. Hey it got rid of the martians
Posted by: JamesJ at October 22, 2009 10:38 AM
What are they looking to get out of this? Royalties? LOL They all need to find a real job.
Posted by: man of few words at October 22, 2009 11:12 AM
I had a roommate who played Rock Lobster incessantly. Can I have her arrested for torture?
Posted by: Anonymous at October 22, 2009 11:16 AM
What was the song that "Oddball" and his crew used to scare the nazis in "Kelley's Heroes"?
By the wat anon yes you can and should have her arrested. :)
Posted by: Farmer Ted at October 22, 2009 11:22 AM
Wow, I would love to see the music in the collections of you guys. David Byrne, Billy Bragg, Steve Earle, Jackson Browne, Bonnie Raitt and T-Bone Burnett, as well as Trent Reznor represent some of the best music of last 30 years. Further, we also do not know what they intend to do with information yet, and it is not unrealistic for them to demand their art not be used for torture. Plus, given the history of conservative battles with musicians, you are likely on the losing side...again.
Posted by: ghost of wellstone at October 22, 2009 11:31 AM
Do any of them know the Internationale?
Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 22, 2009 11:41 AM
Great a big list of fools that will NOT get a penny from me for their albums. Screw 'em. ...and if by some strange twist of fate i want to listen to their crap i will use limewire. Screw 'em again.
Posted by: FREE at October 22, 2009 11:42 AM
Just the same crappy music they play like AGE OF AQUARIUS,DOG & BUTTERFLY,BIG YELLOW TAXI,WINDMILL OF THE MIND,MUSKRAT LOVE, etc etc
Posted by: SPURWING PLOVER at October 22, 2009 11:42 AM
Jay, oddly enough Billy Bragg has an album called "The Internationale"
"Let no one build walls to divide us
Walls of hatred nor walls of stone
Come greet the dawn and stand beside us
Well live together or we'll die alone
In our world poisoned by exploitation
Those who have taken, now they must give
And end the vanity of nations
We've but one earth on which to live"
Posted by: Anonymous at October 22, 2009 11:46 AM
So-stoned here is a sample: Sknyrd, Queensryche, Queen( yeah I know but Freddy had one hell of a voice), Meatloaf,Creed, Pink Floyd, Styx, Sammy Hagar, Head East...etc. It's quite varied but if the artists music was purchased legally then there's not a damn thing they can do about it. They're just looking for cheap publicity to bolster their sagging careers.
Posted by: Farmer Ted at October 22, 2009 11:52 AM
Ted, let's put it this way, say you released numerous albums, to great acclaim and they were used at... let's say a "Gay Pride Parade", granted not the same as torture, and not against the law. You would take issue with it no doubt, and given your politics, would speak out. That said, these are liberal artists, they do not endorse the act of torture, and certainly not having their art for the soundtrack.
"They're just looking for cheap publicity to bolster their sagging careers." Really? For one thing they are activists, publicity is not an issue. Further, "sagging careers"? You may want to ask Styx or Sammy Hagar about that. May I suggest too, it is the 21st century, you are welcome to join us.
Posted by: Anonymous at October 22, 2009 12:02 PM
The above was my response to Ted
Posted by: ghost of wellstone at October 22, 2009 12:03 PM
The Roots?
Wasn't that Creed Bratton's old group?
Posted by: Al Gore at October 22, 2009 12:05 PM
I hope Obama's pay czar starts limiting musicians & Hollywood actors incomes soon. I'm against the gov't limiting peoples pay, but in this case I would make an exception.
Posted by: LittleMissPerfect at October 22, 2009 12:06 PM
S0-stoned are you that dim that you don't realize that if the music was purchased LEGALLY there's not a damn thing I could do about where it's played. You're such a control freak,like all libbies that you think you should have a say in what EVERYONE does. By the way i don't see Styx or Sammy bitching about how plays their music,numnuts.
Also you little control freak I believe it's still MY choice who I listen to whether they're from the 80's or the 30's. Speaking of the 30's maybe you should brush up on some gestapo tunes since you think everyone should listen to what YOU say they should listen to.
Posted by: Farmer Ted at October 22, 2009 12:12 PM
I'm waiting for the Prostitution Czar to limit trolls' pay.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 22, 2009 12:12 PM
Ted, let's put it this way, say you released numerous albums, to great acclaim and they were used at... let's say a "Gay Pride Parade", granted not the same as torture, and not against the law.
Heidi, I doubt Ted or any of us would mind if you played our album at your parade. Flounce away.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 22, 2009 12:16 PM
The Nuge would probably make an appearance to Torture Islamist scumbags in person! Crank it up past 11!
Posted by: Stephana at October 22, 2009 12:17 PM
I hope Obama's pay czar starts limiting musicians & Hollywood actors incomes soon. I'm against the gov't limiting peoples pay, but in this case I would make an exception.
Don't ever root for government control to crush liberty, even if you don't happen to agree with the people who exercise it.
What you should root for is an awakening among the American people as to just how big of a business the entertainment industry is, and how much unhinged moonbattery it supports. If a significant number of conservatives and moderates decided that their life would be better without mindless, mass-produced media, then the Hollywood machine would be crippled.
If you don't agree with a business, the best thing you can do is exercise your market freedom to stop doing business with it.
Posted by: Anonymous Countermoonbat at October 22, 2009 12:24 PM
Maybe if the songs were translated the terrorist would turn into hippies and tie-dye their prison uniforms?
Posted by: joebafett at October 22, 2009 12:33 PM
To FT:
"if the music was purchased LEGALLY there's not a damn thing I could do about where it's played."
Actually, I'm not defending GW, but there actually are laws as to what you can play, who you can play it for and royalties paid for said music. I know this because I had to revamp our Music on Hold for our phone system and even though a great majority of companies and businesses play radio stations and piped in music from CD, MP3s and so forth that doesn't mean someone can't get tagged for it. There are suprisingly a ton of hoops you have to go through to play licensed music to your customers on hold in your phone queue so as to be in 'compliance'. But like I said, most businesses don't really follow it.
But one would think that if blaring my music to some dirtbag terrorists got the information we needed to save thousands of lives, they would be all for it...but then again...look who were talking about as well. Some of these ding-a-lings wouldn't know freedom and liberty if it bit them in the a$$.
Posted by: TMGinDFW at October 22, 2009 12:45 PM
Lock them in some room with Wellstoned the goat, couple hours tops, they'll beg for a bullet in the temple.
Posted by: Amused As Hell at October 22, 2009 12:56 PM
AL GORE im glad your stupid LIVE EARTH CONCERTS was a big time flop and all the carbon footprints left behind by you and your eco-freak buddies
Posted by: Flu-Bird at October 22, 2009 12:56 PM
...."Killing an Arab" by The Cure?
Posted by: Bryherb at October 22, 2009 1:00 PM
"Rock the Casbah" by The Clash.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 22, 2009 1:08 PM
TMG,
I'm aware of royalities ( used to be in radio) but how many music artists are going to go to every single public event in the world to make sure they are getting their royalties? They mainly concern themselves with radio,tv and the internet so it's very possible that their music is getting played and they don't know about it. Plus there's that sticky area of playing the music and getting paid to do it. Like a dj service or just a party it borders on the insane sometimes. The on hold music service you had had probably gotten big enough to attract the eyes of the lawyers. I also agree the hoops are a pain in the butt because I remember filling out endless logbooks when it came to reporting what we played at the radio station, what a nightmare. :)
Posted by: Farmer Ted at October 22, 2009 1:12 PM
I remember in the 60's having to watch Lawrence Welk and those insipid Lemon Sisters on Saturday night. Now that was torture!
If these worthless f*&khead musicians don't want their music played to help save American lives, I will volunteer to go to Gitmo and play my accordion 24/7. Suggestion...Summertime Blues by Blue Cheer ought to do it as well.
Posted by: Myron Floren at October 22, 2009 1:13 PM
"Pork Soda" by Primus
Posted by: son of a preacher man at October 22, 2009 1:13 PM
Wow, I would love to see the music in the collections of you guys.
Uh, Gallstone? You're completely missing the point.
Posted by: Naqamel at October 22, 2009 1:27 PM
May I suggest a healthy dose of abba along with andy gibb, beegees, Wlliam Shatner's version of Rocket Man, and a topper of Dolly and Kenny singing "islands in the stream". That would make any terrorist crack.
Anymore suggestions?
Posted by: Farmer Ted at October 22, 2009 1:29 PM
"Point" by Slayer
Posted by: Sinister at October 22, 2009 1:34 PM
Naq, I did not miss the point. It was a side note, within the lines of the comments here. That said, you guys always make claims regarding "freedom" and "patriotism", so explain why these artists do not have the same rights to get info on how their music was used? I would say two notable GOP mishaps with music would Reagan and Springsteen and Browne and McCain. Repeatedly military and interrogation experts have said torture does not work. As TMG stated, they are well within their rights to pursue this.
TMG, on a side note, if you have further difficulties on hold music, you may want to check Muzak subscriptions. They are pretty good, with multiple channels.
Posted by: ghost of wellstone at October 22, 2009 1:51 PM
"Ahab the Arab"...Ray Stevens.
Posted by: Al Gore at October 22, 2009 2:28 PM
"Sheik Yerbooti"...Frank Zappa
Posted by: Al Gore at October 22, 2009 2:30 PM
"First cut is the Deepest" ...Yusuf Islam (or anything else by Cat Stevens)
Posted by: Al Gore at October 22, 2009 2:36 PM
"Farmer Ted at October 22, 2009 11:22 AM"
Oddball played the country song "Sunshine" while they attacked the railhead.
Posted by: KHarn at October 22, 2009 3:11 PM
"One Note Samba"...Antonio Carlos Jobim
Posted by: Al Gore at October 22, 2009 3:13 PM
"One Note Samba"...Antonio Carlos Jobim
Posted by: Al Gore at October 22, 2009 3:14 PM
"Highway to Hell"...AC DC
Posted by: Al Gore at October 22, 2009 3:15 PM
The only thing stupider than musicians chasing around trying to find out if their music was being played to terrorists, is a troll defending them.
...scratching way down past the bottom of the barrel. Sheesh.
Posted by: Fiberal at October 22, 2009 3:18 PM
'Tin soldiers and Nixon coming...'
Over and over and over and over...
Posted by: Neil Old at October 22, 2009 4:15 PM
Starland Vocal Band's "Afternoon Delight" and Captain And Tennille's "Muskrat Love".
Posted by: Henry at October 22, 2009 4:30 PM
"Itsy bitsy teeny weeny yellow polkla dot bikini"...Brian Hyland
Posted by: Al Gore at October 22, 2009 4:56 PM
sorry about the double posts
Posted by: Al Gore at October 22, 2009 4:56 PM
sorry about the double posts
Posted by: Al Gore at October 22, 2009 4:57 PM
"Hell Bound Train"...Savoy Brown
Posted by: Al Gore at October 22, 2009 4:59 PM
"Jesus is Just Alright"...Doobie Brothers
Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 22, 2009 5:43 PM
Ya know, these musical moonbats ought to live near a street where cars with 130db sound systems playing 30Hz bass beats drive around all night.
Now that's torture.
Posted by: Son of Taz at October 22, 2009 5:49 PM
Posted by: Goatse O'Wellstoned LeBarryfluffer at October 22, 2009 11:31 AM- "Wow, I would love to see the music in the collections of you guys."
Of course you would, you preening hipster wannabe.
Posted by: Goatse O'Wellstoned LeBarryfluffer at October 22, 2009 11:31 AM- "...David Byrne, Billy Bragg, Steve Earle, Jackson Browne, Bonnie Raitt and T-Bone Burnett, as well as Trent Reznor represent some of the best music of last 30 years."
Is that what the pseudo-intellectual, marxist, sammich makers say, when they get together over lattes? Byrne's solo stuff is pretentious rubbish. Talking Heads were ok, but the prat isn't Talking Heads is he? Trent Raznor? As with Byrne, he's not the Nine Inch Nuffies, but unlike Byrne, his band is s***. Jackson bloody Brown? 'Nuff said- vomit. Bonnie Raitt? Hippie dropkick that scored 10 seconds of sorta "fame" as the smelly chick in a duo banging out lame "blues". Good voice, but she amounts to zippo. T-Bone Burnette? What's he ever done, besides playing the Hard Rain LP that is worth giving a s*** about? Glorified session muso. Billy f****** Bragg? You must be joking? Communist. Wait, no he's not. He's a boring, poseur, hack, communist. Steve Earle? Billy Bragg, but with extra heroin.
Posted by: Goatse O'Wellstoned LeBarryfluffer at October 22, 2009 11:31 AM- "Further, we also do not know what they intend to do with information yet"
"Further", yes we do- Engage in equal parts agit-prop and blatant self promotion. If it turns out to be stuff THEY don't approve of, they will rail against the artist and/or recordings, with the emphasis on some sort of boycott/ban- the opportunity to trash talk "torture noise". If the tracks turn out to be THEIR stuff, or the obnoxious puke of their pals, the angle will be indignation overdrive- how their "great art" has been "perverted" by "hate criminals".
Posted by: Goatse O'Wellstoned LeBarryfluffer at October 22, 2009 11:31 AM- "and it is not unrealistic for them to demand their art not be used for torture."
If only they showed such concern before releasing their "art" before it tortured the general populace. They sold it. Tough s***. Typical scumbag hypocrite communists. They want the $$$$ for their "product". But when it suits them, all of a sudden it's not product, it's personal property. Like Ford trying to tell you where and when you can drive the car you bought.
Posted by: chairman soetoro's oprichniki at October 22, 2009 6:26 PM
Oh Chairman, you sad little man. Just to be clear, teabaggers protesting the fact that their taxes didn't go up, or stayed the same is good? Artists protesting within the boundries of the law that their work was used during torture...bad? Nice double standard you apply to yourself.
Funny, the GOP thought Jackson Browne was good enough to highjack his song for McCain, and I think he has sold quite a few records. As for T-Bone, you ask what he has done? Where have you been? Seminal 80's college rock guy gone producer for the likes of the Counting Crows, Robert Plant and Allison Krauss, Los Lobos, Elvis Costello and numerous others. I also seem to remember a big soundtrack, hmmm, "O Brother Where Art Thou"?
And yes, you touch a nerve with Billy Bragg. A poseur? He has more patriotism for America than you could dream of and he is British. Also, Steve Earle, who has done more in the effort of free speech than any artist you could dream up. You may want to do a little research before you rip musicians who do things on your behalf too, half-wit!
Posted by: ghost of wellstone at October 22, 2009 7:05 PM
Gregorian Chant...
Posted by: Al Gore at October 22, 2009 7:19 PM
Posted by: Goatse O'Wellstoned McMonkeyshines at October 22, 2009 7:05 PM- "...protesting the fact that their taxes didn't go up, or stayed the same is good? Artists protesting within the boundries of the law that their work was used during torture...bad? Nice double standard you apply to yourself."
What the hell are banging on about? Taxes = Publishing? You really equate taxes extracted by force, by the State, to sold product? You been huffing the amyl again, Goaste?
Posted by: Goatse O'Wellstoned McMonkeyshines at October 22, 2009 7:05 PM- "...Funny, the GOP thought Jackson Browne was good enough to highjack his song for McCain"
Don't give a flying one what the GOP did for Juanny McAlien. This was about what you called, "some of the best music of the last 30 years", which clearly, Jacky Browneye is not. He's a west coast suck sound drip. His crap sucks like a gaping shrapnel wound.
Posted by: Goatse O'Wellstoned McMonkeyshines at October 22, 2009 7:05 PM- "and I think he has sold quite a few records."
So did Alvin and The Chipmunks. The subject was "best music", not "most units moved".
Posted by: Goatse O'Wellstoned McMonkeyshines at October 22, 2009 7:05 PM- "...As for T-Bone, you ask what he has done?"
No. I asked- what has he done that is worth giving a s*** about?
Posted by: Goatse O'Wellstoned McMonkeyshines at October 22, 2009 7:05 PM- "...Where have you been?"
Where you haven't, loser.
Posted by: Goatse O'Wellstoned McMonkeyshines at October 22, 2009 7:05 PM- "...Seminal 80's college rock guy gone producer for the likes of the Counting Crows, Robert Plant and Allison Krauss, Los Lobos, Elvis Costello and numerous others. I also seem to remember a big soundtrack, hmmm, "O Brother Where Art Thou"?"
Am well aware of who he hung out with, and much of the drek he scored a spot on. But that's not HIS stuff, is it?
Posted by: Goatse O'Wellstoned McMonkeyshines at October 22, 2009 7:05 PM- "...And yes, you touch a nerve with Billy Bragg. A poseur?"
Yes. Yes, he is. A wanker, too.
Posted by: Goatse O'Wellstoned McMonkeyshines at October 22, 2009 7:05 PM- "...He has more patriotism for America than you could dream of and he is British."
LOL. Seriously, Goatse, put down the amyl bottle.
Posted by: Goatse O'Wellstoned McMonkeyshines at October 22, 2009 7:05 PM- "Also, Steve Earle, who has done more in the effort of free speech than any artist you could dream up. You may want to do a little research."
I know who the jagoff is. Who gives a crap about his radical credentials? His stuff is s***. Boring s***, to boot.
Honestly Goatse, you should stick to what is credible, for you- Village People.
Posted by: chairman soetoro's oprichniki at October 22, 2009 7:39 PM
Any music, if played repetitively, over long periods, can becme annoying. If these 'artists' object to the use of their music in interrogations, may I suggest other pieces. Maurice Constant's Twilight Zone might prove very effective.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHIFMkmhDY0
Posted by: James McEnanly at October 22, 2009 8:12 PM
Chairman Soetoro, were the Village People whores?
Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 22, 2009 8:23 PM
For Ghost of Heidi Fleiss, we'll play Liberace. We want him to feel at home.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at October 22, 2009 8:24 PM
AHAB THE ARAB by RAY STEVENS
Posted by: Rockin Robin at October 22, 2009 9:37 PM
I can't remember where I read this, but I believe that one of the most disparaging pieces of music used was the Sesame Street theme song. It's reputed to totally crush men's spirits when played in endless repetition... I believe Metallica's Unforgiven was used as well, which really isn't a bad song- as long as you listen to it once or twice, and not a hundred times in a row.
But you know what would be Hell? Listening to that g*dammned "Bananaphone" song for longer than ten seconds. Any longer than that, and even the toughest deaf guy could be broken and indicted for the Kennedy Assassination in Dallas.
Posted by: Murff at October 23, 2009 4:24 AM
Seems to me the ones worried about it ,,should be. Insecure pantiewastes.
What about when they pull up next to us at the intersection with the bass only tapes?
Thats torture!!
Posted by: czuch at October 23, 2009 9:01 AM
David Matthews would do it for me. I thought his fans died of boredom years ago, but apparently not. In upstate NY we get a lot of migrating Canadian geese. Whenever I hear them honking, I think it's a car going by playing Dave Matthews too loud. Now THAT'S torture.
Posted by: DebZeppelin at October 23, 2009 9:45 AM
Pretty ironic, the right begs for debate and when they are called out on their hypocrisy their opponents are called "gay". Again, I will state that while you claim to be such lovers of "freedom" yet have a problem with artists who fear their work was used in breaking international law. They seek the records on this, and you flip out. Pathetic!
Posted by: ghost of wellstone at October 23, 2009 10:43 AM
Well-stoned goats: breaking international law.
I highly doubt crappy music is against international law. If it was, Moonbatchusetts would be a smoldering crater.
Well-stoned goats: "gay"
Aight, let's see a show of hands. Who here's called an opponent "gay" today?
Posted by: Some Guy at October 23, 2009 12:49 PM
Nobody? The defense rests!
Posted by: Some Guy at October 24, 2009 5:54 PM


