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Money, meet toilet.

Honestly, wasteful spending is just a liberal thing. That is pretty naive. "The conservative solution to AIDS would be to stop spreading it by indulging in degenerate behavior." So, sticking with "abstinence only" is your solution. That is just unrealistic. Degenerate behavior does not limit itself to democrats or republicans. Just ask Larry Craig, or David Vitter or Eliot Spitzer. When you get into the business "The Family" is into or Ted Haggard. Aids also does not discriminate, much like conservatives do. You were all upset over death panels, yet are willing to de-fund help and/or research to HIV/AIDS, sounds pretty hypocritical to me.

Annonopussy. We are not for de-funding hiv/aids research or treatments.

What we are for is stopping the liberal crap of throwing money away on everything. If you read the article you would notice that all of the money was thrown down a rathole.

Yet, I bet these same organizations are still getting money.
Anonymous: you wrote Aids also does not discriminate. I disagree. If you do not mate like a dog or use drugs, the change of getting it is almost nil.

that,s chance.

WOW! Multiply this nationwide and the US taxpayer is getting soaked for hundreds of BILLIONS in scammage. What a bunch of SHIT our Reps/Sens have done to us...while we were asleep that is.

So, sticking with "abstinence only" is your solution. That is just unrealistic.
You're missing the point.

Someone who brings a preventable illness upon themselves, by way of their own choice to engage in risky behavior, should be held responsible for the cost of their own behavior. A hardworking, responsible taxpayer should not have his paycheck looted because someone else decided to have promiscuous sex or use IV drugs.

Liberals have been screeching for higher taxes on alcohol, tobacco, fast food, and sugar, so I would think you guys would understand the concept.

Conservatives don't care whether your affliction is AIDS, heart disease, high cholesterol, cancer, or a broken bone resulting from negligence - if you bring a problem on yourself, common sense dictates that a person who bears no responsibility for creating that illness should also bear no responsibility for paying for it.

"Conservatives don't care whether your affliction is AIDS, heart disease, high cholesterol, cancer, or a broken bone resulting from negligence - if you bring a problem on yourself, common sense dictates that a person who bears no responsibility for creating that illness should also bear no responsibility for paying for it."

Typical neo-con response. You fail to notice that heterosexuals also get AIDS, and right-wingers break bones. So, if someone breaks an arm and goes to the emergency room w/o insurance, who pays for it? You do in skyrocketing premiums. I happen to agree that throwing money at every problem is a remedy, not a solution. But, you cannot ignore reality by saying you do not want money going to research groups.

You also seem to think it is only liberals that have promiscuous sex, or use drugs. That is just ignorant. In essence what you are saying is, you would rather pay no taxes and allow your fellow citizens to die. Your idea is "don't get AIDS" , "don't get sick" "don't break any bones" and "don't get cancer" because you don't want to contribute to help the cause curing it. Way to be patriotic!

Chickens coming home to roost. A pox on both their houses.

The District of Criminals is mostly populated by whiney blacks and (loud and) whiney queers and protitutes (no, no, not Congress). They have been a fiefdom of the Demoncrats for decades, much like Detroitistan and New Orleans. This is just too, too karmatastic perfect.

Reap the profits of your actions butt burglers.

Typical neo-con response. You fail to notice that heterosexuals also get AIDS, and right-wingers break bones. So, if someone breaks an arm and goes to the emergency room w/o insurance, who pays for it? You do in skyrocketing premiums. I happen to agree that throwing money at every problem is a remedy, not a solution. But, you cannot ignore reality by saying you do not want money going to research groups.

That response has nothing to do with neoconservativism. That response is grounded in traditional conservative principles.

The specific affliction or group identity of its sufferer are wholly irrelevant. Heterosexuals get AIDS, right wingers break bones, and bitter white clingers suffer burns when a cross burning goes horribly wrong and catches their robes on fire (/sarc).

None of that matters. The bottom line is that if you cause the problem, then others shouldn't have their paychecks looted to pay for it.

If an innocent victim contracts AIDS as a result of a botched blood transfusion, then there is a solid case for having the hospital pay for it (and passing along higher operating costs). It is reasonable to expect institutions to be responsible for their own negligence. As for those who contract it by promiscuous sex, regardless of orientation, or IV drug abuse, why should those who avoid risky behavior pay for it?

In essence what you are saying is, you would rather pay no taxes and allow your fellow citizens to die. Your idea is "don't get AIDS" , "don't get sick" "don't break any bones" and "don't get cancer" because you don't want to contribute to help the cause curing it. Way to be patriotic!

What I am saying is that, if you engage in unnecessary behavior, you must be responsible for the consequences, not the person who choice to avoid risk.

Want a promiscuous lifestyle? Fine, just don't expect the responsible to pay for it.

Want to smoke? Fine, just don't expect nonsmokers to pay for it.

Want to live off fast food? Fine, just don't expect those conscious of their own diet to pay for it.

Freedom goes both ways. If you have the freedom to make an illogical choice in the name of pleasure, then you must also accept responsibility for that choice.

Bailing out bad lifestyles is no different than bailing out failed banks - in both cases, people are forced to pay for risks they did not take, and a bailout culture only promotes the idea that bad choices will be fixed by somebody else.

Methinks Anon responded to this story with a relex arc rather than involving his higher brain functions. How could anyone justify money being spent this way? It's a crime against both the taxpayers AND the people who were supposed to be helped by these allocations.

The abstinence solution sure worked in Uganda for AIDS until the moonbats decided that the facts were politically incorrect and stuck their stupid we're-so-much-smarter-than-you 'solutions' into what was working. As someone who can personally testify that this form of education works, I find your ideas contemptible and am resisting the urge to say a lot more - not surprisingly something I can do because I have had practice at something a bit more difficult to resist. But self-control and acknowledging facts are not exactly the mainstay of the moonbat religion are they?

Stephan, "abstinence only" sounds great as a lesson, but is hardly effective, just ask Bristol Palin. You also try to take an approach of "see it worked for me" and again, that is not realistic. Funny, for programs like faith based initiatives and abstinence only you don't whine when those funds are ineffective or improperly used. You also ignore the fact that many teens who have abstinence shoved in their faces wind up experimenting with oral and anal sex. So, the argument for it is a waste.

One must also remember...

When you have "a bailout culture [that] promotes the idea that bad choices will be fixed by somebody else," you inevitably get to a point where there is no incentive to make the right decisions. If you have something to fall back on, why would you put concious thought into your actions?

Hell, bailing out people for failed behaviors only encourages them to continue the risky behavior, knowing that someone else will pay for it and that you will not be held responsible.

Congratulations liberals... you promote irresponsiblity or NO responsibility, then bitch when we ask "why are we paying for your poor decision making."

You disgust me.

...Listening to a biologist present a phenomenon he called a "copulatory chain".

Essentially, underwater snails (Aplysia) form long chains of snails where one snail copulates with another which copulates with another, etc., until a long chain is formed (not obviously adaptive, since it increases their risk of predation). The lecturer pointed out that he had been working for years on trying to determine what the key factors were in regulating the behavior that led to these chains. At his finale he announced "In fact, after all this study, we still don't know exactly why they do this."

Silence fell over the room until someone in the back row said, "maybe they're liberals".

One of the most funny thing 's in years is a black political leader call aids a white boys disease when 85 percent of all males are black or brown or yellow. in fact check out how many guys die in africa each year from Aids how many die in mexico and south america and how many die in other places the only reason i can think of is culture and a way of life that is sad but good for world depopulation in africa and great news for the mass number of chiness now moving into areas of africa.

Anonymous,

Your moonbat messiah was a part of Congress during that time, and Constitutionally, Congress has sole legislative power over the District of Columbia.

How do you like voting for a man who has some degree of culpability for this fiasco.

Abstinence works every time it's tried. Don't confuse the practice itself with the students who failed to follow through with it.

Well said, Cylar.

AmericanToTheCore has it.

Econ 101: if you subsidize something you get more of it, if you tax something you get less of it.

Duh.

You are aware people have contracted AIDS via blood transfusion? Or perhaps those of you who are filled with hatred and fear just don't give a toss.