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tonight's White House press release:

"Gallop is no longer a valid source of polling numbers. There polls results are the same as talk radio call-ins numbers"

"We have spoken. Make it so."

tonight's White House press release:

"Gallop is no longer a valid source of polling numbers. There polls results are the same as talk radio call-ins numbers"

"We have spoken. Make it so."

Come 2010 a collective sigh of relief will sweep America, rendering Obama to nothing but a travelling apologist. Come 2012, he'll be replaced in one huge landslide victory.

Expressing "disapproval" in a poll does not mean I intend to vote for the other party. It can actually be a good political tactic to goad the party you support into acting more quickly or forcefully. The only polls that matter are the elections, and they are a long way off.

Come 2010 a collective sigh of relief will sweep America, rendering Obama to nothing but a travelling apologist. Come 2012, he'll be replaced in one huge landslide victory.

Don't count your blessings yet. There is still much work to be done.

The political landscape is changing, but right now, the winds of change are blowing in favor of RINOs, internationalists, and supposedly "moderate" Dems who can always be bought off with pork.

The GOP has failed to articulate conservativism and make a stand on principle. Even if they did an about face today, and began standing up for the principles upon which this country was founded, it will still require several election cycles for them to regain the trust of the American public as a voice of conservativism.

Raw anger is not enough to win in 2010. Between Palin, the tea parties, the 9/12 project, the upswing in right-leaning Internet sites, and every other response to the growth of government, the polls in 2010 will be full of anger. This anger comes from real conservatives to the right of center. The GOP will put forth supposedly "conservative" candidates, who will receive party line votes and other support from the Republican legacy. The various movements will put forth independents who believe in true conservativism, who will receive record numbers of votes from informed citizens who believe in liberty.

The Democrats will receive the votes they always have, from statists, moonbats, those dependent on government, and others who have a vested interest in seeing it grow.

The result: Dems win again, because the conservative voice is split. Obama gets a second term, is at the height of his career, and now has nothing to restrain his ultra-left agenda. A liberal Congress, seeing an emboldened president, will actively work to implement the statist agenda, knowing that, once installed, machine politics will prevent the traitors from being removed.

This doesn't mean that the voice of America is behind the Dems, it only means that we have a flawed election system which favors the candidate with a plurality of votes, instead of requiring that whomever takes power enjoy support from a majority of the citizens. Third parties never work well in any system operating on simple pluralities - they only become viable with runoff voting, or some of the hypothetical systems never used in practice.

If this scenario scares you, as it should, then take some of the anger and outrage and direct it into constructively building conservative coalitions to win at the polls, rather than go to the polls to cast angry ballots and prove a point. We need to change the GOP from within, rather than casting it aside and running a slew of independents each taking votes away from the others.

It would be wise to start working at the local level to put libertarians, constitutionalists, and patriots on the GOP ticket, unless you happen to be in one of the rare areas that a conservative independent can beat both R's and D's.

2010 will be another loss unless we stop the RINOs.

Too bad liberals bust your beloved OBAMASES is losing his support and he hasnt been in for a full year yet HOW THE MIGHTY HAVE FALLEN

I'm not at all sure about 2010.
If the electorate puts in the kind of invertebrate republicans that now crawl around congress, it can get worse.

BO has the moonbats, unions, blacks, Jews and Hispanics wrapped up no matter what, so he is automatically ahead in votes. Republicans always have to work against the numbers in any event. So if newly appointed republicans come in in 2010 and try to appease house democrats and pass destructive or at best unhelpful "bipartisan" policies, the republican vote could split up in 2012.
Imagine John McCain getting into the 2012 elections. A confluence of such factors would insure another 4 years of BO (assuming we still have a Constitution left).

A 2010 republican victory without engaged and conservative republicans may very well lead to more hope-less change.

Fiberal said:

"BO has the moonbats, unions, blacks, Jews and Hispanics wrapped up no matter what, so he is automatically ahead in votes."

While I disagree that he has the Jews in his pocket, Barry the Obamanation does have the far-left Kool Aid drinkers far up his butt. He really doesn't care about his overall popularity numbers, as long as the bamabots are still singing the "Mmmm, Mmmm, Mmmm" song.

Everything Komander Zero has done in the past month or so has been intended to feed red meat to the bots. His attacks against the Republicans; against Fox News, and against the "vast right-wing conspiracy," have been for the purpose of energizing the moonbats. He has to feed the vampires blood so they don't die-off on him.

He can't task more troops in Afghanistan, nor can he slack off on the socialized health care. Those things would be contrary to the deep-seated desires of the people who continue to follow their messiah like the lemings they are. He HAS to keep faith with the loony left or risk losing the slim 51% of his voters, and the corrupt vote-counters he must have on his side in 2012.

I think he's given up on the McLame voters and has never believed the conservatives were going to vote for him even by accident. This guy's an arrogant egotistical crook that brought the Al Capone Chicago Machine to our nation's capitol. He couldn't care less what you think.

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Next stop, Carterville. All aboarrrrrrd!

Well what the fuck did Jesus W. Bush achieve that was so brilliant that it managed to win him a second term?

Apart from spending his first year on holiday, waging an essentially illegal war and just generally being braindead chimp-man?

Well what the fuck did Jesus W. Bush achieve that was so brilliant that it managed to win him a second term?

You guys fielded John Kerry, a Massachusetts liberal who was out of touch with America.

Uh...defended this country from further terrorist attacks after we got cheap-shotted? Granted, Bush didn't show off his pecs at the beach or anything equally important, but that is something. And, at least, he knew how many states there were.

And I'd feather the chimp remarks. Obama with those ears looks much more like a chimp than Bush ever did. Admit it - a photo of him eating a banana would bring down the house. And Michelle, for her part, looks like she should have been riding a horse and throwing a net over Charlton Heston. So ixnay on the chimp business.

Sitting at my desk laughing at Jay's last two sentences. Can't help it. Involuntary reaction. Damn you Jay!

wow.... one of the resident moonbats gave us a "BUT BOOOOOOSH!!!!" reply.

Color me shocked.

P.S. AquaNet, why don't you show how tough you are and say something disrespectful about Mohammed to a Muslim population? Oh yeah... I forgot all you liberals are too chickenshit to do that so you just throw out random insults about Jesus & or Christians on message boards

Metalgarth is right, aqua. Drop in on, say, Bradford, and mention that Mohammed was a sheep shagging pedophile, and probably schizophrenic into the bargain.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ulrichp/1362599/

Well what the fuck did Jesus W. Bush achieve that was so brilliant that it managed to win him a second term?

Explain how George W. Bush's infuriating shortcomings excuses Obama's despotic leanings towards failed marxist policies, and a kind of ignroant naivete typically seen in your average emo-kid.

Bill, please go away with your unwanted spam...

AC - great insights.

It's exactly what I fear - a weakened Obama/Democratic party that can STILL beat the divided house of Republican party versus the libertarians/conservatives.

I'm enjoying the daily slow death by poll of Obama as much as anyone else. But those polls won't stop health care 'reform', might but might not stop cap and trade, and won't stop Obama winning a 2nd term UNLESS there's a winnable candidate opposing him.

It's really a befuddling conundrum. Those watching Glen Beck and Sean Hannity do not constitute a majority. I'd say more like 20 %. Another 31 % is needed. The middle must be brought on board. I don't know how to do that. Obviously the RNC doesn't either. The problem is that the statists constitute a rock-solid impermeable core of, let's say, 35 % of the population. All they need to win is a chunk of the middle.

The only answer as I see it is to get every single existing Republican "candidate" off the table, find some new people, and hope that one can satisfy the Beckians and the independents both. Maybe that's Petraus, maybe someone nobody's thought of. I am 99 % sure, though, that the following people cannot beat Obama: Huckabee, Palin, Romney, etc. They are all yesterday's news. None of them can satisfy both the yearning of pissed-off libertarians like me as well as the self-absorbed need for "pragmatic" "common sense" of the befuddled independents. Time to wipe the slate clean and start all over.

Meanwhile, the polls are fun to watch. When Gallup drops sub 50 in a few days or weeks, that'll be really fun. That'll be a media discussion meme.

"Those watching Glen Beck and Sean Hannity do not constitute a majority. I'd say more like 20 %. Another 31 % is needed. The middle must be brought on board. I don't know how to do that."

Well duh, you have to toss Beck and Hannity under the bus for starters.

Easy way to bring the middle on board: wait. The Dems control everything, but that also means they're responsible for everything. They're already looking like Laurel and Hardy trying to paint out of the same bucket.

Beck is doing yeoman's work exposing the left's incompetence, corruption, and treachery, while the rest of the media focus on fellating the Messiah. Someday - someday soon - they'll be mortified by their complicity in this train wreck.

Btw, for our resident Reds, please note: Carter was swept into office on the same kind of basis (hope! change!), won by more than Obama, and had higher approval ratings on taking office than Obama, and did not slide southward as quickly as Obama. And yet thinking people now consider Carter as the worst President of the 20th century.

If the annoying whine says we have to "toss Beck and Hannity", must be someone on DU, Kos, or MoveOn is getting rattled. That's where it gets it's talking points.
Mega, how about General(ret) Pete Pace? I totally agree with you on Huckabee, Palin, Romney. I have nothing against any of them, I did think that Huck was unelectable last time, ditto for Romney, and Palin isn't without problems.

"Those watching Glen Beck and Sean Hannity do not constitute a majority. I'd say more like 20 %. Another 31 % is needed. The middle must be brought on board. I don't know how to do that."

Beck and Hannity give you 20%...sweet!! You need 31% more for a majority but you don't have them and don't know how to get them.

By my calculations that means you are acknowledging that Obama can get 80%. No wonder hardly anybody is posting, they all must be out drinking themselves into oblivion. I think I'll have a celebratory drink myself. LOL!!!!

Easy way to bring the middle on board: wait. The Dems control everything, but that also means they're responsible for everything. They're already looking like Laurel and Hardy trying to paint out of the same bucket.

As Chicago has proven time and time again, corruption and incompetence can be in the open, but voters won't rally against it if they have become dependent on welfare and pork.

Come 2010, the liberals will portray Republican victories as being dangerous to the lifestyle of middle America, and countless politically-naive voters will drink the Kool-Aid and keep voting for the corruption out of fear that loss of a Federal entitlement will crimp their consumer lifestyle.

The health care fight will have come to some conclusion by then. The next two bogeymen are jobs and the cost of college. If Dems can link continued control with the ability to find a pork-funded job or attend college on Federal dollars, then naive voters will keep voting for the corruption.

This has been going on in Chicago for decades. The only way to stop it is to educate the naive voting public and clearly articulate the benefits of conservative solutions instead of easy handouts.

You need 31% more for a majority but you don't have them and don't know how to get them.

Then you and CPUSA have nothing to worry about. And yet...you're here.

That's right, we are. It's amusing. Best of luck in finding that 31%.

Obama with those ears looks much more like a chimp than Bush ever did. Admit it - a photo of him eating a banana would bring down the house
Posted by: Jay Guevara

Wow, comparing a black guy to a chimp....
Calling you a racist douchebag is my voluntary reaction.

If inflation takes off like many people think it will, Obama will go the way of Carter. Everyone here that is old enough to remember real inflation can appreciate it's effects on the political dynamic.

A generic "racist" reaction? That's the best you got? You're a pussy even for a Brit.

Wow, comparing a black guy to a chimp....
Calling you a racist douchebag is my voluntary reaction.

Explain why comparing George Bush to a chimp isn't racist.

By the way, does this photo help the argument?

http://tinypic.com/r/2hhhmbk/4

Barack Obama sees worst poll rating drop in 50 years

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/6409721/Barack-Obama-sees-worst-poll-rating-drop-in-50-years.html#

I also notice you didn't dispute my characterization. Obama eating a banana would be funnier than hell, and you know it. With those ears...please. It would be Air America territory. Bwahahahah!

Excellent comments all. It's good to see a spirited debate.
My take on it? After healthcare is passed (IF), The supreme court will judge it to be unconstitutional due to the forcing of American citizens to pay for citizenship. (or God forbid another terrorist attack, or failure in Afg/Irq)

I think Jay had it closest, with the Carter 2.0 (not taking into account the new age)

I know I'll never vote for a fascist like Obama.

Aquatarkus, you've got the IQ of a swim fin.

In case you haven't caught on yet, bashing Bush no longer frames you as an "intellectual," it just makes you look stupid and desperate.

Why don't you put your energies into defending Obama instead of bitching about the past? Oh, that's right, Barry's riding the Fail Train to Hell, and you can't. Too bad :{

I love it when liberals get so much attention, only to fail.
it brings me joy

Why do you actively want the president to fail?
Because you're a bunch of immature cunts, maybe?

You say he's failing, but you haven't exactly gone out of your way to help make his first year any easier, have you?
You bitched at every possible opportunity, making it impossible for him to get anywhere with the public.

You'll only be happy if there's a Republican president in the White House, but if the president had to be a Republican, that would completely destroy the idea of America being this great democracy.
Instead, it be would be a one-party state, and you've tried so hard to prevent such things from existing.

Aquaturkey -

You are certainly an offensive individual.

Got any friends?

I didn't think so.

And, for the 1,000,000,000,000,000,000th time - NO ONE HERE CLAIMS TO BE A REPUBLICAN!!!!!!!

Why can't you trolls soak that into your silly little ACORN-size brains? You have a problem with Republicans - take it to the GOP.

sheesh

NO ONE HERE CLAIMS TO BE A REPUBLICAN!!!!!!!
Posted by: Jimbo

So you're a Libertarian, big fucking deal.

You have no idea what "I am" dipshit.

Aquanet,

There you go again. Condescending, snide, pompous, arrogant and infantile all in one short post. How do you do that?

And please stop with the "learn to take a joke". You have to make a joke, not be a joke, for that to work.

Fuck you.
I'd rather be condescending and wishy-washy than an obstinate, self-righteous cunt.

Lighten up.

Aquatarkus at October 22, 2009 11:59 PM

WHOA! You really showed your actual intelligence with that post, dipshit. LOL!

Again - lick your armpits - you stink.

Strangely enough, I am physically incapable of licking my armpits.
Maybe you are, what with your freakishly long tongue given to you by your parents who are also your aunt and uncle....

Also, try to think of a word other than ‘dipshit’, knobhead.

"I'd rather be condescending and wishy-washy than an obstinate, self-righteous cunt."

I've always thought of you as both, actually.

There you go again. Condescending, snide, pompous, arrogant and infantile all in one short post.
Posted by: Richard C.

But not stupid, eh?

Hahahahaha fuck you, fuck you, fuck you, fuck you, fuck you, fuck you.

Aquanet,

Your eloquence is astonishing. I don't care what your other junior high school friends say about you behind your back.

So you're a Libertarian, big fucking deal.

The ignorant little lout Aquatarkus didn't even know what a libertarian was until I told him.

Oh my, the word "troll" certainly applies here. If you can't make your point without cursing and calling people names, there is no point.

When the Muslims take over Britain, and all the non-Muzzie Brits want to immigrate here, I vote we keep Aqua out, despite his great verbal and reasoning skills.

I'm happy that an album cover logo from my favorite rock band (Led Zeppelin) was used for a graphic to illustrate Obama's tanking poll numbers. I shall think of it fondly. I can think of many of their song titles that fits this administration, especially "Dazed and Confused"

Aquadork = stupid. Why is it that as soon as you get got its swear and cuss time?
Why not defend and support your position?
Under the desk aint so bad for you.
Mommy's calling that your hot pockets are done and its time to turn off the tv and go outside and play.
Fall off the swing dumbass.