September 18, 2009
Why Poland and the Czech Republic Were Fed to the Bear
In case you were wondering why Chairman Zero threw our Polish and Czech allies to the Russian bear by yanking away their missile defense — on the 70th anniversary of Poland's invasion by Russia, no less — foreign policy wiz Joe Biden explains:
"I think we are fully capable and secure dealing with any present or future potential Iranian threat," he told CNN's Chris Lawrence in Baghdad, where he is on a brief trip.
"The whole purpose of this exercise we are undertaking is to diminish the prospect of the Iranians destabilizing that region in the world. I am less concerned — much less concerned — about the Iranian potential."
Who cares about Russia? The problem is Iran, and Iran's not a problem. Also breaking yesterday:
Experts at the world's top atomic watchdog are in agreement that Tehran has the ability to make a nuclear bomb and is on the way to developing a missile system able to carry an atomic warhead, according to a secret report seen by The Associated Press.
The document drafted by senior officials at the International Atomic Energy Agency is the clearest indication yet that the agency's leaders share Washington's views on Iran's weapon-making capabilities.
It appears to be the so-called "secret annex" on Iran's nuclear program that Washington says is being withheld by the IAEA's chief.
Iran is on the verge of producing nuclear missiles that could reach our friends in Eastern Europe, and our government knows it — but apparently Plugs didn't know that we know that he knows. Or he actually has no clue what's going on, because the mistake of bringing this idiot into the White House to lend gravitas to Comrade Obama's foreign policy is so glaringly obvious that they don't bother to brief him anymore.
What's really behind the sacrifice of our loyal Iraq allies Poland and the Czech Republic to their more immediate threat, Russia? Reaganite Republican offers a clue:
Once the White House announced they were axing the shield, Russia's government said PM Vladimir Putin would meet several U.S. executives today from firms including General Electric, Morgan Stanley, and TPG- one of the world's largest private equity firms.
General Electric may be the company with the closest ties to the Obama administration (if not Goldman Sachs), and here we see the company benefiting from a sudden foreign policy change implemented by Barack Obama.
GE CEO Jeff Immelt sits on Obama's Economic Recovery Advisory Board, and GE owns MSNBC- you figure it out.
Even the three stooges — Brian Williams, Charles Gibson, Katie Cupcake — have the smarts to connect a few of these dots had they any interest. Scratch Williams — he's on GE's payroll.
On tips from I'm A Lasagna Hog, Refuter of Liberal Vermin, Gretchen, and Byron.
Posted by Van Helsing at September 18, 2009 6:50 AM
Gayest. Jedi. Ever.
Posted by: Anonymous at September 18, 2009 7:10 AM
DARTH MUAL,DARTH SIDEOUS,DARTH VADER,DARTH OBAMA
Posted by: SPURWING PLOVER at September 18, 2009 7:38 AM
Immelt is also on the board of the New York Federal Reserve too. You know, those guys who buy US treasury bonds (that the rest of the world is showing less interest in buying) by monitizing the debt (creating more money out of thin air).
Of course, to lefties, GE isnt a evil parasitic corporation with numerous tentacles attaching itself to the Obama administration.
Posted by: Bad Robot at September 18, 2009 7:43 AM
This means that team BO had to defy the collective strategical estimation of the Pentagon, the CIA and NATO.
And this right after BO's meek assertion about the invasion of Georgia by Russia. (Something about "Can they do that?")
You would have to be dumber than BO to assume that this idiot is not designing the decline of western democracy.
This from a man not qualified to drive an ice-cream truck.
And BTW what does that pic of BO taking a goofy pose with a toy say about the dignity of the office of the presidency?
(And that's how you get the word "dignity" in the same sentence with BO.)
Posted by: Fiberal at September 18, 2009 7:58 AM
Michelle doesn't look amused.
Posted by: Mr Evilwrench at September 18, 2009 8:08 AM
She never does.
Posted by: I'm A Lasagna Hog at September 18, 2009 8:13 AM
Mr Evilwrench at September 18, 2009 8:08 AM
Posted by: Greg at September 18, 2009 8:16 AM
OMG, we are DOOMED with that gay nerdy doofus in the White House!
Posted by: Anonymous at September 18, 2009 8:19 AM
And here I thought the lamest possible Jedi idea was when they initially proposed giving a couple of the guys from N'Sync cameos as Jedi in 'Star Wars: Attack of the Clones.' I guess this tops even that.
Posted by: Adam at September 18, 2009 8:27 AM
Get a hold of yourself annon or ill peck you on your big fat nose
Posted by: SPURWING PLOVER at September 18, 2009 8:41 AM
my caption for this picture
Michele "Barack, put down that toy or no Woki for you tonight!"
Posted by: eat me at September 18, 2009 8:44 AM
Spurwing: whatchoo talkin 'bout?
I like the look on Fat Albert's face. It screams: "yo homo, put that thang down, or I is gonna smack yo ass down."
Posted by: Anonymous at September 18, 2009 9:23 AM
you lunatics ever get tired of being scared of your own shadows?
"we're DOOOOOOOMED!" (or at least that's what Sean Hannity told me...)
Posted by: Anonymous at September 18, 2009 9:55 AM
bad robot -
I thought you crazy roghties were all about letting the corporations do whatever they want to. deregulate everything, and just assume that they will behave.
how's that going for you?
Posted by: Anonymous at September 18, 2009 9:56 AM
So, here's a question for the lunatic fringe:
Do any of you actually think there is some chance of a column of tanks moving through Europe?
Do any of you actually think Russia will harm their own economic interests with actual-factual war?
Do any of you actually think that the magic-missile-shield (which has never, in fact, worked) was anything but a giant waste of money?
I guess to the flat-earth society, the 'illusion of safety' is more relevant than workable solutions... just like everything else the flat-earth society thinks. All about illusion, never about substance.
Posted by: Meh at September 18, 2009 10:06 AM
Well, there's been a column of tanks moving through Georgia, that's a start. Of course, there are often more than economic interests involved in decisions to go to war. Russia under Putin is flexing its muscles. Maybe just to put things back to 1988, but then what?
I like the way all these leftards keep insisting the missile interceptors have never worked and never will. Check out the most recent test. It was a surprise test, and the system scored another win.
Talk about illusions.
Posted by: Mr Evilwrench at September 18, 2009 10:23 AM
Posted by: TED at September 18, 2009 10:31 AM
Poland gambled a lot by helping the US in the Iraq war and Bush was ridiculed for it (Don't forget Poland!) and what's their reward? Removing American presence next to them to Russia can do what it wants with them. Obama's just helping our enemies. Hopefully there will be treason trials by the next four years.
Posted by: Jay B. at September 18, 2009 10:37 AM
What was the response when you posted those questions over at Daily Kos?
You did direct them at the lunatic fringe as you said.
Posted by: Anonymous at September 18, 2009 10:39 AM
So the question is ... what does Barack Obama know that we don't? Here is a fantastic analysis of what Obama could possibly be getting from Russia in return for scrapping the missile shield.
So .. here's more change you can believe in. Countries in Europe that once thought the United States would be there to defend them no longer feel that way. Eastern European countries that felt the U.S. would defend them from Russian aggression no longer believe that to be so. Look for them to become much more friendly to Russian goals and initiatives now.
Elections have consequences. Elections in the U.S. have consequences for the people of Eastern Europe. (Enjoy Europe, you asked for it)
Posted by: TED at September 18, 2009 10:45 AM
The media is in full spin about how Obama's plan is better. Here's what they're not saying:
1. If Obama really intended to field a defense against short/medium range missiles, an integrated radar system in the Czech Republic would be a very useful thing to have.
2. There doesn't appear to be money authorized in the defense budget to begin deploying mobile, short-range missile defenses in the Eastern Mediterranean.
This tells me Obama is lying. He is tearing down missile defense, and he doesn't intend to replace it with anything.
Posted by: V the K at September 18, 2009 10:51 AM
IMAO: Poland doesn't need a defense system because it is buffered from Russia. Granted Russia would like to own all the land to it's east at least to Germany but in order to do that they'd need to invade. If they chose to carpet bomb counties to the east they would destroy their economies and those counties would no longer be of any value. Now as far as the wing-nuts in Iran go we need to remember that they are now caught between American forces occupying Iraq and the Russian father land. For Iran, bombing anything would be a disaster because any county they might bomb in the region is of strategic value to either the USA or Russia.
Posted by: Mark at September 18, 2009 11:20 AM
This is the leader of the free world?
What a liar!!!!
meh do you even think before you post.
You are one big idiot.
Posted by: Dave at September 18, 2009 12:19 PM
Put a metrosexual in the White House and this is what you get! My Favorite line headline is the one the Drudge Reportthat reads:
POLES: "We've been sold to Russia"
AMERICA: "We've been sold to Russia"
So just when does our American Idol President Barry start singing "I'm so happy to be Back in My Communist Baby's Arms Again"
Seriously, this is no joke and prayers are needed, this isn't some stupid school yard game of Dodge Ball.
Posted by: citizen222 at September 18, 2009 12:30 PM
"Do you really think anyone will invade Australia?"
"Anyone who fancies their chances."
(Exchange of views on a Meet the Press program.)
Coming soon, a border dispute. A protest about Russian citizens being discriminated against. Pipeline disputes. Access to ice-free harbour talks break down. Spy caught. Tariff disagreement. Maneuvers "a provocation, says Putin"."White House Favors Munich Option. Obama calls for talks."
Right now EVERY ally the US has is re-evaluating.
Posted by: Jim at September 18, 2009 1:34 PM
Posted by: Jim at September 18, 2009 1:34 PM
Frightening isn't it.
I shake my head in disgust at this man child.
Pussy he is.
Posted by: Dave at September 18, 2009 1:39 PM
Yea For Pre...
Posted by: bruce jones at September 18, 2009 1:45 PM
am sure this is no surprise to many ...
but the emerging political class (and it still is - we take them for granted already but they are just getting their sealegs economically & politically after being in the isolation chamber for 60 years)
of Poland and Czech Republic (moderatte left & right)
have been severely burned by this. Maybe traumatized (not being melodramatic).
So many decisions, so many potential blowbacks.
From this point on E EUrope will be very wary, like foreign intelligence agencies have learned to be, about dealig with the US.
There sure are a lot of dumb people in WashDC and East Coast/West Coast overall. Liking to be taxed extra heavy for waste, fraud and triplicate (note that I used the factor of 3 not 2) state gov't functions and shabby education for the high cost is one thing. But pissing into the wind of your allies ... is well ....
Maybe Keith Olberman can sleep better I guess as Jeff I will keep floating his broadcasting boat.
Posted by: Rwaction to Closed Minds at September 18, 2009 5:03 PM
What better way to commemorate the 70th anniversary of the Soviet invasion of Poland than for Obama to announce that he’s abandoning missile defense for Poland and the Czech Republic?
I wrote an article commemorating this event:
Posted by: Josephine at September 18, 2009 5:15 PM
I think Obama's decision was a big mistake but I'll just have to wait and see.
Posted by: debt reduction at September 18, 2009 8:02 PM
It could be argued that "Obama's decision" and "big mistake" is redundant.
Posted by: Swampcat at September 18, 2009 8:50 PM
Meh at September 18, 2009 10:06 AM
(you ignorant slut)
Here's the scoop.
The BO idea is that short range anti-missiles only, will now be used against Iranian missiles launched at short range sites. Like Poland. At the same time, long range missile defense against Iran is eliminated under the BO assumption that Iran does not, nor will it ever gain, the capacity to launch long range missiles, intercontinental or otherwise.
Now, you liberals can sit there and think this is all perfectly good, but anyone with a femtodegree of common sense knows that 1) Iran cannot be brought under any legitimate treaty with the present Mullah governorship in control, 2) the long vs. short dichotomy is false, and 3) we have no control or intelligence related to Iran's long vs. short range capabilities.
And BTW, no.....Iran is NOT America and they should NOT have nuclear weapons just bc we do.
Well, at least eastern europe knows this, regardless of what you dumb-ass liberals and your Islamic, affirmative-action president, dim-witted fascist-socialist BO messiah try to convince everyone of.
But hey look, BO is out to destroy western democracies and this is just part of Mein Kampf.
Posted by: Fiberal at September 18, 2009 9:32 PM
And BTW Meh-n Kampf, just what "workable (final) solutions" are you referring to?
Or are you just regurgitating your freshman thesis over here?
Posted by: Fiberal at September 18, 2009 9:41 PM
And do you know why BO doesn't give a s--t about Poland?
Because they have a huge statue of the Global Liberator, Ronald Maximus Reagan in Warsaw. That's why.
Posted by: Fiberal at September 18, 2009 10:01 PM
Now leave politics to the adults and go sit down somewhere and read your pornography.
Posted by: Fiberal at September 18, 2009 10:03 PM
once again...no weapons of mass destruction...again..?
Posted by: Constant Gina at September 18, 2009 11:36 PM
What's with all the clueless cold warriors here? Russia doesn't give a shit about Poland or the Czech Republic. They give a shit about missiles and military bases surrounding their huge lands filled with vast resources. Anyone fearmongering about this nonexistent Russian imperialist threat is a clueless neo-con (redundant, I know).
Here are some interesting facts about public opinion in Eastern Europe: The majority of people in both Poland and the Czech Republic were against this missile defense. The majority of Georgians consider ties with Russia more important than the USA (and that's after the war). The majority of Ukrainians feel NATO is a threat, and the vast majority consider ties with Russia more important than the USA or NATO or even Europe. The vast majority of the people in the collective former Soviet Union want to see the CIS become closer and more integrated, rather than less. They by and large approve of Russian leadership. And no, I'm not making any of this up. These are real surveys that represent real people, not the interests of fringe politicians who only have power because of their connections in Washington.
To all you clueless idiots who don't see what I'm getting at, the PEOPLE in Eastern Europe are not afraid of Russia, because Russia is not a threat to them and they're not dumb enough to buy the neo-con propaganda. It's their idiotic western-trained, cold-war raised politicians who are so out of touch that they should have no right representing these countries in the first place. And any of you who've been taken in should be ashamed for being such a complete tool. You've been taken advantage of, used, like a prostitute.
Posted by: Stephen Harper at September 19, 2009 8:57 PM
Harper, you don't know shit.
How do I know?
Because the countries you mentioned have all elected governments which favored closer ties with the US. The ballot box does not lie.
Shut the hell up.
Posted by: Cylar at September 20, 2009 1:16 AM
"These are real surveys that represent real people"
That's all you've got?
This is lame propaganda perpetuated by a lame propagandist.
For a variety of reasons it is in the interest of eastern European governments to have diplomatic ties with Russia in order to avoid interventionism. There will always be propagandists that will exploit this.
The idea that common eastern European populations prefer to cozy up to Russian thuggery is patently absurd.
Posted by: Fiberal at September 20, 2009 8:08 AM
Yoda Gangsta Rap. (A hidden feature on the Revenge of the Sith DVD.)
[LIBAUTORESPONDER KICKS IN] "Raaaaaaaaaaaaaacist!"
The Poles have been sold to Russia, America's been sold to Islam. They just cut up a Molotov-Ribbentrop (sp?) lookalike to divide the spoils, though it goes without saying the mooselimbs will prematurely break it, impatient creatures that they are.
Posted by: Conservigilant at September 21, 2009 5:27 AM