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Burning up all those kilowatt hours of electricity putting out all that hot air and leaving those great big carbon footprints as stupid as those rediculous LIVE EARTH concerts

once upon a time i use to trip whilst watching this loon freak-out in "the wall", lots of "trails" to found in that one, years later i found out the "real" star of that movie was the movie "the dam busters" that he watched throughout. back to the topic, best quote about this story "they finally took laura ingrahms advice".

Using all those kilowatt hours of electricity producing all that HOT AIR and leaving those huge carbon footprints as stupid as those rediculous LIVE EARTH concerts

FWIW I seem to remember reading several years ago that Simon Le Bon of Duran Duran is conservative. He praised Reagan or Bush publicly I think. Its just odd, maybe they need the exposure.

Taking shots at little old Bob Geldof, claiming he was "almost a rock star"? Yeah, those Boomtown Rats records were a flop. kinda like that "We are the World" and "Sun City".

"...to draw attention to the global warming crisis...?" WTF? Draw attention?? Where've they been the last couple years? Stone Age natives in Borneo know all about it. In fact, it's probably why they're laughing.

It's not Geldof....it's Geldorf!

It's alright folk, these geezers aren't just hippies, it's a marketing ploy. They know of the MSM's little clitoris and you just need to put "Earth" and "Green" somewhere in your event and the media will think you're out there to save the world.

Posted by: Anonymous at September 15, 2009 8:40 AM
Butthurt much? Boomtown rats had one song enter the U.S Top 100 charts, where it hit at a staggering 73. They weren't even 1 hit wonders.

I hate it when artists go and ruin everything by making political statements. Just shut the hell up and sing!

more about ;destroying the economy', huh?

So, who knows what you are really advocating? You want to prop up and run with the old economy; chain purselves further to an unsustainable paradigm. Clever.

Reinventing the economy from the ground up would, in fact, result in some wonderful things; for example, China is whupping our asses to the new energy economy, they are ahead in R&D for sustainable tech... and just because the cave men on the right don't get it does NOT mean that the world's economies will all play ostrich, too.

If we want to compete in the future, we have to compete NOW.

I am well aware that many (most?) of you don't get it, but if we waited for all of your luddite-ass horses to cross the finish line we will be here a long, long time...

Be glad that your betters are aware of teh big picture. We will save America no matter how hard you try to fuck it up.

> for example, China is whupping our asses to the new energy economy
Yes, by having no environmental concerns what so ever, displacing millions of people in order to build a damn and paying workers $3.00 a day, while also charging them for lodgings.
>hey are ahead in R&D for sustainable tech.
Incorrect, all R&D is done in the west, and bought to China where it is cheaper to produce.

The majority of Chinese cannot afford a product they build for Western consumption, the true is not the same of any product built here and exported to Asia.

Keep charging the straw man you lberal dipshit.

You mean SHERLE OLD CROW wasnt there to lecture the audience on this toilet paper bunk?

If it wasn't for the cashmere coat, I'd say this guy is just another homeless AIDS twink in Frisco.

is this the new meme? holding china up as some sort of paragon of the future? laughable on so many levels, methinks these libtards need to "retool" their arguments.

Posted by: xantl at September

And to add that China is building two coal fired power stations a week and produces so much industrial smog it be seen from space.

And seeing as China's so ahead of the curve, why do they feel the need to steal 40bn worth of research annually from the west?

http://www.ottawacitizen.com/life/spies+love/1986281/story.html

"Taking shots at little old Bob Geldof, claiming he was "almost a rock star"? Yeah, those Boomtown Rats records were a flop. kinda like that "We are the World" and "Sun City"."

Posted by: Anonymous at September 15, 2009 8:40 AM

According to Joel Whitburn's Top Pop Singles 1955-1993, The Boomtown Rats had exactly ONE single that appeared in the Billboard Top 100. "I don't Like Mondays" reached #73, charted for FIVE weeks and didn't even achieve Gold status in the United States. Meanwhile, according to Whitburn's Top Pop Albums 1955-1985, They had three LPs to enter the US Album chart, with "The Fine Art of Surfacing" being their greatest success, charting for 16 weeks and reaching #103 in 1979. That pretty much meets every definition of a No-Hit wonder.

Refuter, gauging a bands success on chart ranking alone is worthless, yet not surprising from a child. Geldof's later success was incredibly big with Syn City and We are the World. As for the Boomtown Rats, the chart status was not there but alongside the likes of the Talking Heads, XTC, Mission of Burma, Television and Blondie the cult status still exists.

Wellstoned,

"We Are the World" was written by Michael Jackson and Lionel Ritchie. Bob Geldof didn't even sing or perform on it. Van Helsing was absolutely correct when he said of Geldof "Bob Geldof was almost a rock star once, long ago." Don't even try to educate me on rock music Wellstoned. I am a living encyclopedia of rock music. You mentioned Blondie. They had a #1 pop hit in 1978 with "Heart of Glass". They were rock stars and people knew who they were. Nobody knows who the hell Television were, outside or rock critics and music geeks like myself. BTW- Marquee Moon is a classic.

Oh little boy, Geldof actually was the session organizer, and sang in the chorus for We are the World. Again, gauging a bands success on on chart rankings is shallow and irrelevant.Further, Geldof's influence should be also noted for Live Aid, and Band Aid, starred in The Wall. You really don't want this debate little man.

Wellstoned knows rock (maybe) but doesn't realize that aborting an innocent fetus is murder.

Hats off to you, Klebba.

You are certainly a prince among men.

Bring it, dipshit. If Bob Gelding was the session organizer for We Are The World, how come Quincy Jones produced the record? Nobody in the US knows who Bob Gelding is, OR XTC. Andy Partridge refused to tour after 1982 and that killed whatever chance they had at American success. The Wall is a dumb movie made about one of Pink Floyd's WORST records. I prefer anything prior to The Wall, going back to their debut with Syd Barrett. You are overmatched on matters of music, just as you are overmatched on matters of politics and world affairs.

Refuter, you may want to look into why Prince did not appear on We are the World, it was a exchange of words between he and Bob Geldof. XTC did fine after Andy Partridge suffered his meltdown. Skylarking did very well, Oranges and Lemons did well, The Dukes of Stratosphere is heroic in the minds of music junkies.XTC's American success slid when Nonsuch was released, running store at the time, buyers flocked to a midnight sale, and later stated it sucked. Further, I agree with on the Wall, however it's success debunks both us.

This thread alleges that Rock Stars are people who are FAMOUS. I clearly showed earlier in this thread that Bob Gelding's records with the Boomtown Rats went nowhere in the States. Bob Gelding is simply NOT famous here. He could walk down the street in ANY Major US city and not be recognized. This does NOT mean that he is an unimportant figure in rock. Live Aid was a milestone event and it would never have happened without him. That doesn't make him a rock star. The Velvet Underground were one of the greatest American rock bands ever, despite never coming close to having a hit record. They were NOT rock stars, they were rock MUSICIANS, or Artists, if you prefer. I'm saying Gelding is NOT a rock star in the United States because he is NOT FAMOUS here. That was exactly the point VH made at the start of this thread, and as usual, Wellstoned derailed it into something else entirely.

No, I addressed the earlier comment defending the Boomtown Rats. You went into charts, and then continued with "Bring it". Alot of rock stars can walk down the street these days, in the last month Bob Dylan was picked up by police because someone thought he "looked suspicious". Kid Rock and Jack White have drank at Gusoline Alley in Royal Oal, Mi. w/o being noticed.
So, your ignorance is showing badly.

Bob Gelding is unknown in the US. Case closed.

Posted by: Goatse O'Wellstoned McMonkeyshines at September 15, 2009 6:43 PM- "...Geldof's later success was incredibly big with Syn City and We are the World. As for the Boomtown Rats, the chart status was not there but alongside the likes of the Talking Heads, XTC, Mission of Burma, Television and Blondie the cult status still exists."

Goatse, Geldof NEVER had a "cult status", even outside the USA. The Boomtown Rats was a middling band that couldn't produce anything memorable after a middling single, that charted OK in Britain. Geldof was just a singer who thought himeself much more important than he was. Session organizer" = Geldof made some phone calls. Same with those horrible "Live Aid" and "Band Aid" craporamas. He was a glorified booking agent. He co-wrote that "do they know it's christmas" thing. That's it. Dreadful "song". He's not ALL bad, he has had his moments of clarity, and is certainly less inclined to socialism than many others, so he isn't as much a hypocrite in regards his $$$$. But rarely in music history has one made so much noise out of so little. Talking Heads and Blondie are in a different league. XTC and Television, though pretty good, in patches, are really no more than footnotes, outside indie circles. More important than Boomtown Rats, though. Have to agreed with Refuter regarding "The Wall" Lame LP, crappier movie. "Animals" was Pink Floyd's last good record. "Obscured by Clouds" was their best one.

In any event, Goatse, you just made sammiches for Flavor Flav once, what the hell do you know?

Chairman, I have to disagree with you on Geldof, agree with you on The Wall.Geldof's longstanding reputation as a producer, writer and charity organizer has garnered much success. If you look to the history of MTV when it mattered, the Boomtown Rats gained U.S. attention alongside Split Enz, Blondie and others. The history of CBGB's alone gives all of the aforementioned bands credit.

Not sure where you get the Flav nonsense from?

Posted by: Goatse O'Wellstoned McMonkeyshines at September 15, 2009 9:03 PM- "Chairman, I have to disagree with you on Geldof, agree with you on The Wall."

Then why mention it as some kind of triumph? It sucked.

Posted by: Goatse O'Wellstoned McMonkeyshines at September 15, 2009 9:03 PM- "Geldof's longstanding reputation as a producer, writer and charity organizer has garnered much success."

Success at self-promotion.

Posted by: Goatse O'Wellstoned McMonkeyshines at September 15, 2009 9:03 PM- "If you look to the history of MTV when it mattered, the Boomtown Rats gained U.S. attention..."

US attention? Who exactly, in the US? In the UK for that matter? If you can't boast sales, then at least influence can matter. Who the hell was influenced by the bloody Boomtown Rats?

Posted by: Goatse O'Wellstoned McMonkeyshines at September 15, 2009 9:03 PM- "alongside Split Enz..."

Split Enz? Oh, come on. In the US????

Posted by: Goatse O'Wellstoned McMonkeyshines at September 15, 2009 9:03 PM- "Blondie and others. The history of CBGB's alone gives all of the aforementioned bands credit."

Lots of people played CBGB's. Some good. Some crap. Big deal. Doesn't equal success, or influence.

Posted by: Goatse O'Wellstoned McMonkeyshines at September 15, 2009 9:03 PM- "Not sure where you get the Flav nonsense from?"

Oh ye of little memory. Anyway, I figured you as more a Village People sort of fellow.

I liked DURAN DURANS theme to VIEW TO A KILL

Wellstoned,

You cannot be serious with the Split Enz nonsense. Only the most serious of rock listeners and critics in the US have even heard of that band. The Finn Brothers had no success in the United States until Neil started Crowded House and later invited Tim to join the band. Your mentioning of CBGB's is puzzling too. That place was nothing more than a crappy bar in the Bowery until several of the bands who started there (The Ramones, The Talking Heads and Blondie), became famous. X-Ray Spex were a pretty good British Punk band who had a brief residency there in 1978. Most Americans never heard of them either.