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September 11, 2009

Search Engines Commemorate September 11

September 11 may be the best day of the year to compare search engines:

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At least Google is consistent. The "Don't Be Evil" moonbats will make a special logo for Iranian New Year, but most anything that reeks of patriotic sentiment is ignored.

On a tip from Pete.

Posted by Van Helsing at September 11, 2009 4:43 PM

Comments

changed my search engine to bing long ago.

Posted by: weewilly at September 11, 2009 4:50 PM

No kidding. They sure don't have a problem commemorating the first transgendered penguin sex change operation or the first time Osama bin Laden fucked a male goat, but 9/11? No way! I'm just surprised they didn't use a still image of Daniel Pearl's beheading.

Scum of the earth...

Posted by: Fuzzlenutter at September 11, 2009 4:52 PM

I have been with bing for quite some time. Plan on staying too.

Posted by: Dave at September 11, 2009 5:02 PM

I only use Bing. The other sites upset me. There really is no reason for them to exist.

Posted by: SnowSnake at September 11, 2009 5:02 PM

The view from my apartment when I walk outside was altered 8 years ago to this day. 57 people in my town perished that day. I cringe when the use of the towers is over-exploited into the tacky. I guess these Bing and Ask images are O.K., but I still would prefer dogpile's straight use of the flag.

Just my 2 cents.

Posted by: Anonymous at September 11, 2009 5:08 PM

That's why I stopped using google. I use yahoo now.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8249810.stm

BTW, in case you didn't know, Barack went forward with his "national day of service" BS.
"Americans have been encouraged to contribute their labour and time in memory of the victims."

Debra Burlingame, a patriot who lost her brother at the pentagon says "I greatly fear at some point we'll transition to turning it into Earth Day where we go and plant trees and the remembrance part will become smaller." Tragically, that's basiclly the plan of the moonbats.

Posted by: conservativeteen at September 11, 2009 5:19 PM

They seem to be clueless assh*les. Leftists ... what can you do?

Posted by: benning at September 11, 2009 5:32 PM

Bush failed on 9/11.

Posted by: Bush Fail at September 11, 2009 5:40 PM

Ya know, looking at this site, you people are disgusting. You will 9/11 as a political tool? A prop? What is wrong with you? Numerous blogs, high profile and low, ran with the date, or chose to recognize it in a low profile manner, or not at all. 9/11 is not a "gotcha" piece of legislation, it is a moment in our history when we all wept and mourned, far too many more than any of us. Bush ignored the warnings, and you guys blame Clinton, Bush asked alot of our men and women, sent them to war in a country that had nothing to do with 9/11, and there is still a giant hole in NYC. Honor those families who lost loved ones, honor those who died, and honor those who worked tirelessly that week. Again, this is not about who's search engine is capitalizing on a tragedy, it is about what America experienced as country.

Posted by: Anonymous at September 11, 2009 6:05 PM

All Anonymous posters are massive douche bags. It must be genetic.

Posted by: grayjohn at September 11, 2009 6:08 PM

It's not political, you anonymous sacks of shit. It is about basic human respect, dignity and awareness.

Your camp is the one using 9/11 as a political tool i.e. BUSH/JOOOS/BILDERBERGS/FREEMASONS DID 9/11. You fuckers only used it is a bludgeon to batter the Bush administration, conservatives and patriotic Americans, in general. That or the liberals use it as a joke as in a few different episodes of the Leftist animated sitcom, "Family Guy", for one example.

If conservatives ever used it as a political tool, it was to remind people that we have enemies out there who will hurt or kill us no matter how much their collective or individual asses are kissed or appeased.

That we need to be successful in our campaigns in Iraq and Afghanistan otherwise another 9/11 could occur.

And on the watch of this appeasing, Marxist, dorm room, bong hitting, coke snorting C-in-C -- it is a very high possibility his actions will facilitate another disaster for America.

Posted by: SK at September 11, 2009 6:19 PM

Pissants. Google ignored the 100th anniversary of Abe Lincoln's birthday. Instead, they had something in their logo on the 100th anniversary of Dumbass Darwin's birhday. On D-day, Google had a Tetris look-alike logo to "honor" the computer/arcade game. Van is right, Google will ignore anything in their logo that shows patriotic sentiments. It will be interesting to see if Google ignores November 11, Veterans Day. 'betcha they do. Pissants, nothing but a bunch of spoiled pissants.

Posted by: Graycat at September 11, 2009 6:23 PM

You will 9/11 as a political tool?

The troll says, then two sentences later blames Bush for 9-11 and rants against the Iraq War.

Anonymous Trolls must have no natural sense of irony.

Posted by: V the K at September 11, 2009 6:29 PM

v the k's sister is having my baby

Posted by: ted nugent at September 11, 2009 6:36 PM

Posted by: Anonymous at September 11, 2009 6:05 PM

Hey MEAT HEAD,

We are honoring those who died and sacrificed their lives and time to 9-11. Idiot!!!! We are pointing out how a giants like Google fail to recognize such an important and solemn event in our history. Look at it this way, ass hat, how many in the towers use google in their work activities as well as other things? HUH? You would think that an economic giant such as Google would at least show some patriotism as well as some CLASS on 9-11.

In addition take a look at what the Messiah is trying to do to PATRIOT DAY. He wants to turn into national (socialist) service day. Do we owe China sooooo much money that we have to act like these ass holes?

Yea Obambat I blame Clinton for 9-11 because he had the opportunity to stop Osama but didn't. His chicken shit ass blew up empty tents. There were many times Clinton had and fucked them up. You should thank Bush you ungrateful ass wipe, because since that horrible day we have yet to be attacked. Lets see what happens with the man child in office as he tries to make nice to the back stabbing murderous MOOOOOOOSLIM.

Go preach your do good fake ass patriotism elsewhere.

Posted by: Dave at September 11, 2009 6:54 PM

http://hotairpundit.blogspot.com/2009/09/obama-speech-at-pentagon-9-11-09-video.html

Posted by: Anonymous at September 11, 2009 6:57 PM

Bing is as good as Google in every way; the only reason to stay with Google is inertia.

Posted by: mega at September 11, 2009 7:15 PM

National Geographic Channel is showing 'Secrets of Jerusalem's Holiest Sites'.

Can you believe the chutzpah of these people?

Payback ...

Posted by: Anonymous at September 11, 2009 7:24 PM

Really, the right has never used 9/11 as a political tool?

-In his '06 re-election campaign, Sen. Mike DeWine (R-OH), used doctored photos of 9/11 in an attack ad. Yes, they added extra smoke, because the scene of 3000 people perishing was not horrific enough. (http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/articles/060719/19dewinead.htm).

-Incidentally, just today, Josh Mandel who is running to be the Treasurer of Ohio, sent out an e-mail with a large "donate" button at the top, followed by him saying "remember 9/11." Sure -- OH Treasurer in 2009, terrorist attacks in '01, a lot of analogies there.

-There was also the chap who bought a billboard in Florida, plastered an image of the towers in smoke, and said "Please don't vote for a Democrat." (http://www.wftv.com/news/16879991/detail.html). Again, because it was an awful time in our country of a Democratic president and Democratic controlled House & Senate. Of course, the FL GOP did the right thing in condemning the act, but the foundation for it had been set -- 9/11 was politicized for Right gain long before.

-Oh, and then there was too much to list here that would be filed under the "Rudy Guiliani for President" adventure.

-Finally, I'll save the best for last. The man who built a career on 9/11: Mr. Glenn Beck. In case you forgot, he has a thing called "The 9/12 Project." Designed to "bring us all back to where were on September 12, 2001?" Really? I was beside myself and scared for my life and the lives of other Americans. I certainly wasn't thinking about linking posts to Tea Bag events and criticizing Congressman Rangel's taxes (which just so happens to be a top entry at the moment).


So yeah, I'm just scratching the surface.

Posted by: Massive Douche Bag at September 11, 2009 7:35 PM

conservative hypocrisy lesson of the day: if any thing bad happens in America it's Obama's fault because he's president, but if anything bad happened during Bush's Presidency it was Clinton's fault. Lol you people are clowns.

Posted by: Jenna Bush at September 11, 2009 7:37 PM

Is it just me, or do the trolls get shriller and nuttier whenever Glenn Beck scores?

Posted by: V the K at September 11, 2009 7:41 PM

I noticed this as well, and it bugged the hell out of me. What is wrong with Google, can't they put a freaking flag up at least? Or even a frowny face, something... If I recall, Yahoo! didn't do a thing either, and they often add a little something to their pages on holidays, and other random days.

Posted by: Nifty Nick at September 11, 2009 7:50 PM

Bush wasn't an appeaser and a coward like Obama who is inept and takes every chance to speak ill of our nation and roll over for hostile regimes.

Bush made those (not all) who were responsible for these attacks pay for what they did to our nation, to our fellow citizens. These were the only things that Bush did that I ever felt were worth a damn and I am a Republican.

Does this not sink in with you lot? These people on 9/11 were our fellow Americans who were MURDERED by Islamic thugs. These were men and women: mother, sisters, brothers and fathers.

These Islamic brutes hated us LONG before 9/11 and the War on Terror and will continue to hate us.

To reiterate:

If conservatives ever used it as a political tool, it was to remind people that we have enemies out there who will hurt or kill us no matter how much their collective or individual asses are kissed or appeased.

That we need to be successful in our campaigns in Iraq and Afghanistan otherwise another 9/11 could occur.

Posted by: SK at September 11, 2009 7:51 PM

Speaking of human dignity & respect (OT) I noted that the "You Lie!" guy, Joe Wilson, received over $750,000 in campaign donations in the 48 hours after he paid The Liar in Thief the respect he deserves.

That made my day.

I hardly ever use Google and when I do, it's usually restricted to Google Map. And the reason I don't use them is they are disrespectful freaks.

Posted by: Jimbo at September 11, 2009 7:52 PM

"Is it just me, or do the trolls get shriller and nuttier whenever Glenn Beck scores?"

You noticed it to, Huh?

V the K it's called FEAR. They are so scared because this socialist domino chain is beginning to tumble. Not only do we surround them we are also exposing them. HA!!

Posted by: Dave at September 11, 2009 7:55 PM

I love the smell of Red desperation. They've lost, and they know it. November 2011 is coming...tick...tock...tick...tock...

Posted by: Jay Guevara at September 11, 2009 7:55 PM

Glenn Beck is doing yeoman's work knocking out Reds. Three pelts in one week - Van Jones, that NEA a-hole, and now ACORN - whoa! What a week! You go, Glenn!

Posted by: Jay Guevara at September 11, 2009 7:57 PM

Jimbo -- Joe Wilson has raked in $200K. His opponent, however, has "raised" over $844K so far -- which is $344K more than he raised during the '08 campaign. I stress "raised," because I don't believe he's formally announced ... I guess he will be now though.

http://www.actblue.com/entity/fundraisers/19079

Posted by: Massive Douche Bag (Shrill Version) at September 11, 2009 8:01 PM

That's better than a 4:1 ratio in favor of civility.

Posted by: Massive Douche Bag (Shrill Version) at September 11, 2009 8:01 PM

Posted by: Massive Douche Bag (Shrill Version) at September 11, 2009 8:01 PM

Miller started with a deficit.

Posted by: Dave at September 11, 2009 8:02 PM

And link to Wilson's fundraising: http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/09/11/wilson.fundraising/index.html

Posted by: Massive Douche Bag (Shrill Version) at September 11, 2009 8:03 PM

Yes but among Wilson's constituents this will make little difference. Money hardly matters when you have guts and determination and show those you represent you're on their side.

Wilson will be re-elected and all of you moonbats will have wasted your money because this man was brave enough to show that your Messiah wears no clothes and is, in fact, a bald faced liar.

:)

Posted by: SK at September 11, 2009 8:04 PM

Anyone else hear a faint annoying whine in the distance?

Posted by: Jay Guevara at September 11, 2009 8:06 PM

Of course he'll be re-elected. The district is like R +25 or something and Miller only got within 8 points while riding Obama's coat tails.

I still think it's rather funny, though.

Posted by: Massive Douche Bag (Shrill Version) at September 11, 2009 8:06 PM

Posted by: Massive Douche Bag (Shrill Version) at September 11, 2009 8:01 PM

Yes, you anti-American cretins know an awful lot about civility...

http://hotairpundit.blogspot.com/2009/09/flashback-democrats-boo-bush-at-2005.html

http://hotairpundit.blogspot.com/2009/09/hypocrite-nancy-pelosi-surprised-by.html

http://hotairpundit.blogspot.com/2009/09/van-jones-ps-human-shields-who.html

Just keep digging that hole, anonymous.

Posted by: SK at September 11, 2009 8:06 PM

Posted by: Massive Douche Bag (Shrill Version) at September 11, 2009 8:01 PM
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Posted by: Massive Douche Bag (Shrill Version) at September 11, 2009 8:01 PM


Not according to
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/capitol-briefing/2009/09/scs_wilson_rakes_in_750000_in.html

Although his opponent raked in $250 K more - that was probably all from Sorros.

Posted by: Jimbo at September 11, 2009 8:07 PM

Excellent. The Demoncrats are wasting their money in a solid Republican district instead of giving it to vulnerable Demoncrats in other districts. This is a good thing.

Posted by: V the K at September 11, 2009 8:08 PM

Touche. Wilson has a little Mine that Bird in him -- late closer. It was a $500K+ difference earlier in the day.

Posted by: Massive Douche Bag (Shrill Version) at September 11, 2009 8:10 PM

It is excellent VtK. MOST excellent!
Considering dipshits consider "giving" paying taxes, you know that Wilson's opponent had to have had one or two wealthy (hypocrite) benefactors.

Posted by: Jimbo at September 11, 2009 8:11 PM

For my money, the best way to commemorate 9/11 would have been to spend the day holding wholesale executions at Gitmo.

But then, that's me.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at September 11, 2009 8:11 PM

V: Were 14 mos out from an election and the avg donation is $36 -- I don't think this is changing anyone's long-term political donation plans. It's impulse buy of American politics. Like those Skittles you buy at the Best Buy check out.

Posted by: Massive Douche Bag (Shrill Version) at September 11, 2009 8:11 PM

2010 is going to be a fucking bloodbath for the Democrats.

I am having a party to watch the returns locally and nationally and laugh and laugh.

All non-moonbats are invited. :-)

Posted by: SK at September 11, 2009 8:12 PM

I'm with ya, SK!

Finding a liberal in 2012 is going to be like finding a Nazi in Berchtesgarden in June 1945. You know some of the people around you must have been such, but no one will own up.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at September 11, 2009 8:15 PM

And speaking of Obama's coat tails...

What's the betting that no Blue Dog will want Obama's ass within 100 miles of his district in the next year?

Posted by: Jay Guevara at September 11, 2009 8:16 PM

Alright kiddos, I'm off to bed.

In all seriousness though, please remember the 3000 lost eight years ago. As I stated earlier, I do live on the Hudson and every morning I hop on a train where the final stop is the WTC. It's kind of easy to see what has turned into a massive construction site and lose track of the reality of the location. It's easy to lose sight of the fathers, mothers, neighbors, children, and friends lost that day. These people are still here, still healing. When you go to bed tonight, I ask you just to lift them up in your prayers.

Personally, I've been extraordinarily blessed when it comes to avoiding personal tragedy in my life. I can't imagine the pain of losing a parent or a child during the ordinary course of the day. As was once said, you could live to be 1000 and the day would never make sense. There are still people trying to make sense of why a loved one is gone -- so let's lift them up tonight.

Posted by: Massive Douche Bag (Shrill Version) at September 11, 2009 8:20 PM

MDB, we're trying to avoid any more Americans from experiencing that heartache, and that outrage. We don't think that the solution lies in licking our wounds, or inspecting our navels, or singing "Kumbaya," but in killing - yes, killing - our enemies. And we do have enemies. Enemies who don't care about our domestic politics, who hate conservatives and liberals alike, simply because they're Americans.

That's the point.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at September 11, 2009 8:26 PM

And speaking of Obama's coat tails...
Posted by: Jay Guevara at September 11, 2009 8:16 PM

Obama wears a tear-away jersy that slings people under a bus.

In all seriousness though, please remember the 3000 lost eight years ago.
Posted by: Massive Douche Bag (Shrill Version) at September 11, 2009 8:20 PM

You got it guy. The sentiment is echoed. I remember them almost everyday. Sleep tight - but with one eye open and a 9 mm under the pillow.

Posted by: Jimbo at September 11, 2009 8:27 PM

Finally, I'll save the best for last. The man who built a career on 9/11: Mr. Glenn Beck. In case you forgot, he has a thing called "The 9/12 Project." Designed to "bring us all back to where were on September 12, 2001?" Really?

What the 9/12 project stands for; 9 principles, 12 values

Posted by: AmericanToTheCore at September 11, 2009 8:55 PM

Jay - well said. And I stopped using Google when I tried searching for something that google had apparently edited out, but ing found it on the first try.

Posted by: Nancy at September 11, 2009 9:01 PM

I was a dotcom CEO in San Franfreakshow in 1999-2002, and since then have done consulting gigs with Google.

I would go short on GOOG. They are hemhorraging top employees and execs at an increasing rate. They have not yet figured a way to run profitable divisions outside of their basic Adwords, invented several years ago by an outside firm.

YouTube costs them over $700 million a year in bandwidth costs. That's right. Most all their other innovations, from Google Maps to Google Earth and so on, are from outside acquisitions with relatively little developed inside the company.

Regardless, working with Google staff is a very unpleasant thought for me and other outside consultants. The company stokes the fires of the existing overblown egos of the little royals that work for them, if you could call it work. Google is very much GM in the 1960s when it was impossible to think of any other ending except world domination.

Yes they have paid me good money but they are the most sickeningly smug and clueless of anyone in Silicon Valley, which is truly saying a lot.

Posted by: Air2air at September 11, 2009 9:51 PM

A2A - My memory on 'passing things' fails me sometime... Was that when your office was a block off Market on New Montgomery? I used to walk by there everyday from BART.

Posted by: Jimbo at September 11, 2009 10:13 PM

yeah air2air and Im a ceo of a company too lol nice try

Posted by: neocondon at September 11, 2009 10:40 PM

I love the dogpile page. Respectfully understated.

I happened to pass by a 9/11 "Truther" poster on a bulletin board today. Tore it down and tore it up. As much as I disagree with the response, I have to at least acknowledge the actual truth of what happened and the evil inherent in the act.

Posted by: hey you guys at September 12, 2009 12:27 AM

Why we are attacked on 9-11.

Because of who we are.

We are a nation and a people united in the belief and the love of freedom and are the first to arrive in its defense.

That'll make you hated.

Let us not forget today, on our sacred day of loss, those in the grip of tyranny and oppression and fighting for their freedom our fathers died to preserve for us.

Our struggle with theirs;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bo3-paRB2No&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fnoiri%2Eblogspot%2Ecom%2F&feature=player_embedded

Posted by: ChicagoBlood at September 12, 2009 12:43 AM

Posted by: ChicagoBlood at September 12, 2009 12:43 AM

Well, that and Israel.

And, really, first to defend freedom? Britain outlawed slavery in 1833; America in 1862. Australia and Finland beat us to women's suffrage. And how are we doing for the freedom of Haiti, a country not far from our own borders where some people are literally too poor to eat dirt because of a string of dictators?

Don't get me wrong, I love America and feel we're generally a force for good in the world. However, in truth, we tend to be a bit behind the curve on freedoms.

Posted by: hey you guys at September 12, 2009 2:44 AM

Well, that and Israel.

No, Israel is an excuse. Our support for the only democratic and free country in the Middle East is irrelevant... we would have been attacked regardless of whether we supported them or not.

And, really, first to defend freedom? Britain outlawed slavery in 1833;

While having a massive colonial empire that didn't fall apart until well into the 20th century. Yes, they certainly stood for "freedom." Unless you lived in India, the Middle East, or anywhere else the Brits set up shop.

America in 1862.

That's because Britain didn't have to fight a war over it. We did.

Australia and Finland beat us to women's suffrage.

I love how you are cherry-picking different subjects as if it proves anything. A moment ago you were telling us that Britain beat us to outlawing slavery... now, you bring up women's suffrage.

And how are we doing for the freedom of Haiti, a country not far from our own borders where some people are literally too poor to eat dirt because of a string of dictators?

How is HAITI doing for the freedom of Haiti?

So let me get this straight.. the US must intervene in the affairs of others, otherwise we're not standing up for freedom?

Thank you George W. Bush.

Don't get me wrong, I love America and feel we're generally a force for good in the world.

Umm, yeah. Sure you do.

However, in truth, we tend to be a bit behind the curve on freedoms.

Bullshit. We poured hundreds of thousands of our young people's lives in various European wars helping to defend Britain and France. We poured billions into our defeated enemies after world war two, helping to rebuild and turn them into free nations. We held the line against the Soviet Union, risking the destruction of our cities to prevent the invasion of western Europe. We defended South Korea against an invasion by the North. We support Israel, a democratic nation surrounded by enemies who would love nothing more than to destroy it utterly. Even in Iraq, we deposed Saddam Hussein, and rather than install a puppet dictator and be done with the mess we tried to create a democratic government.

We are the first to stand for freedom. Often, in this corrupt world, we're the ONLY ones to stand for freedom.

Posted by: Evil Otto at September 12, 2009 4:46 AM

Britain outlawed slavery in 1833;

And it still goes on in Africa and the Middle East, and what does the UN do about it? Nothing. What do the social democracies of Europe do? Nothing.

we tend to be a bit behind the curve on freedoms.

Only to the extent that our freedoms have been eroded by "Progressives." We still enjoy freedoms like the right to bear arms, the right to free speech, the right to freedom of worship, the right to petition government for a redress of griavances ... all rights that have been under assault by the "progressive" left.

Our freedom to make our own economic and lifestyle choices is similarly under assault by the "progressive" left.

Posted by: V the K at September 12, 2009 5:59 AM

"...in truth, we tend to be a bit behind the curve on freedoms."

Really?

The Gettysburg Address, D-Day and even the futile struggle for Hanoi.

Don't get me wrong but you're sounding like a clueless ingrate.

Posted by: ChicagoBlood at September 12, 2009 7:04 AM

If the anti-American crowd, such as the trolls in this thread, would just admit to themselves they hate America, it'd be so much easier for them - no more tortured, complicated arguments, no more "we have to defend freedom, but Bush was bad because he fought wars for freedom" stuff, no more "We tend to be a bit behind the curve on freedoms" to describe a country that has sacrificed hundreds of thousands of young men to defend OTHERS' freedoms, none of it. They could just be honest, admit to themselves what they are, and move on. They fucking hate this country. They should man up enough to admit it.

Posted by: mega at September 12, 2009 7:19 AM

Chicagoblood, and many others here seem to have bought the GOP slogan "we were attacked for our freedoms!", what do you think the Muslim leaders are in caves tearing up the Bill of Rights, bitching about the woman in the Honda commercial? Osama bin Laden "oooooh, I just hate when American women get to drive!!!" Give me a break. I will take the higher road here, and note, we all mourned that day. We have different ideas on how we prevent another attack, but we were all on the same page that day.

Attacking another country who had nothing to with 9/11 was not the answer, and only ignited more hatred for the U.S. We were attacked because of our policies, and we continued those policies by attacking Iraq. We continue to roll over foreign communities in the name of "American interests"...oil. So, I think many of you would be pissed as well. Until we change our policies, we could face down another attack. Obama is not improving that either with his bloodthirst in Afghanistan.

Posted by: Ghost of Wellstone at September 12, 2009 8:14 AM

"bitching about the woman in the Honda commercial? Osama bin Laden "oooooh, I just hate when American women get to drive!!!" Give me a break."

You obviously have no realistic comprehension of the status of women in the eyes of Bin Laden and others of his ideology, much less that of infidels which is fundementally why we were attacked which is what you are not getting. Bin Laden wants (or wanted whatever the case may be)a worldwide Caliphate with himself as the Supreme Caliphate. No democracy or republic here, no debating ideology or policy as we are doing here. Ghost why do hold such a obstinate and ignorant POV of Authoritarians and dictatorships? Your compatriots on the far-left are celebrating and waxing nostalgic of the continuing legacy of Fidel Castro and I'm just wondering when is the last time he won in a free and fair election?

"We were attacked because of our policies,"

Which is the policy of individual liberty and freedom for all. Always, the brain dead mantra of "blood for oil". Please, is the governmental structure of Iraq today better or worse than it was under Hussain?

For the most part I've been a lurker on this site, checking out the comments and posting occasionally and I must say you are a glutton for abuse. You never fail to post your obstinate stupidity someone always hands you you're **s and you never seem to get it.

Why do you apologize for dictatorships?

Posted by: ChicagoBlood at September 12, 2009 9:08 AM

Chicagoblood, answer this, why did we attack Iraq? Simple question. Further, "glutton for abuse"? Please, if schoolyard taunts now qualify for having "my ass handed to me", then you have alot to learn. Living mere minutes from Dearborn, Mi., I speak often with Muslims at cafes and markets. Most of what I hear from folks of all ages, is life was not good there, yet it was not our country's job to fix. Democracy is much like sex, both parties involved have to want it. If you think the elections in Iraq and Afghanistan were fair and legal, you must be 12.

As country, we have a mess on our hands. Corruption in both parties, and then we give aid to corruption in foreign governments in the name of "America's interests". "Liberty and freedom for all" does not constitute blowing the shit out of a country, leaving thousands of innocent lives ruined, and nearly 5,000 dead of our own men and women. Bush was wrong for going in there, and Obama is wrong for not ending this. That said, it is not our freedoms, it is policy.

Posted by: Ghost of Wellstone at September 12, 2009 9:27 AM

And, really, first to defend freedom? Britain outlawed slavery in 1833; America in 1862.

Where to start? First, Britain instituted slavery in this country, so they don't get props for outlawing it. We were in the position of an infant born with gonorrhea. Further, please note that slavery wasn't of much use to Britain economically after losing the American colonies.

Second, Britain only extended the franchise beyond one-sixth of the male population with the Reform Act of 1832.

Australia and Finland beat us to women's suffrage.

So? Switzerland only granted women's suffrage in 1990. France did so in 1944. Sweden in 1921 (a year after the U.S.). Australia only ratified the rights of aborigines to vote in ...1965. So what was your point?

And how are we doing for the freedom of Haiti, a country not far from our own borders where some people are literally too poor to eat dirt because of a string of dictators?

And this is our fault how? Shake down those wealthy Democrat contributors – start with Soros, then move on to Gates and Buffett – and ask them what they're doing about it. Or you, for that matter. Or STFU.

A typical America-hating liberal. God how I detest you people. You lay awake nights trying to find some basis for which to crap on this country.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at September 12, 2009 10:25 AM

Liberty and freedom for all" does not constitute blowing the shit out of a country, leaving thousands of innocent lives ruined, and nearly 5,000 dead of our own men and women.

Some countries need the klebba blown out of them. And lots and lots of guilty lives were ended. Yay!

Posted by: Jay Guevara at September 12, 2009 10:28 AM

Corsica gave women the right to vote in the 1700's.

No relevance to the subject, but Wellstone and friends do it.

What's more, the first synthesis of an organic compound was first made in 1824. So there, MDB.

Posted by: Jim at September 12, 2009 2:46 PM

"And (slavery) still goes on in Africa and the Middle East, and what does the UN do about it? Nothing. What do the social democracies of Europe do? Nothing."

And what, precisely, are we doing about it? I'm honestly curious on this one.

Also, slavery still goes on in America. The main use of slaves is for prostitution, but they aren't unknown in other fields. (This, of course, has nothing to do with government or political philosophy; black markets exist everywhere humans do.)

"The Gettysburg Address, D-Day and even the futile struggle for Hanoi."

Ask someone in the South about the war of northern aggression some time. According to some (mostly nuts), the Civil War was about their freedom to do what they wanted (which just happened to include profiting off the unpaid labor of others). Both sides of that conflict were democracies.

Yes, D-Day... which happened after an isolationist movement kept America from being involved in WWII for several years. I'm not denying that America is a great force for freedom once we get out act together, but we're by no means the first out of the gate.

Hanoi... I'll give you that one. It was a valiant attempt, but also an example of how military force is not always the best way to advance the cause of freedom. Vietnam is moving closer to freedom now thanks to market reforms; of course, they still have very far to go.

"So let me get this straight.. the US must intervene in the affairs of others, otherwise we're not standing up for freedom? "

No, of course not. But if we /are/ intervening in the affairs of others with freedom being our goal, why not Haiti? They're close to our borders, relatively small, and in desperate need.

"Where to start? First, Britain instituted slavery in this country, so they don't get props for outlawing it."

Well, technically they instituted slavery in their country, which happened to include chunks of North America at the time. /We/ instituted slavery in our country when we created it. Read the Constitution, or the preceding Articles of Confederation.

They eliminated the practice with a vote, we did it with a war. Not our best moment.

"If the anti-American crowd, such as the trolls in this thread, would just admit to themselves they hate America, it'd be so much easier for them"

See beyond your own limited perceptions. Now, for me, loving something or someone requires honesty. My wife has flaws, I have flaws; our relationship works a lot better when we admit them to ourselves and each other and working to improve. I love America, and I love what it represents, but that means I have to admit to and work to correct our many flaws. So do you. We don't agree what those are; and that's fantastic. That's what a democracy should be.

"Some countries need the klebba blown out of them."

Do it my way or I'll hurt you; the motto of arch-conservatives, psychopaths, and ego-maniacal six-year-olds alike.

Posted by: Anonymous at September 12, 2009 4:54 PM

I love America, and I hate you.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at September 12, 2009 6:46 PM

I don't just love what America represents, but what America is - warts and all.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at September 12, 2009 6:47 PM

We're going to take this country back from you Reds. We can do it nice, or we can do it rough.

Your call.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at September 12, 2009 6:59 PM

Jay we will have to do this rough. These idiots are to drunk with themselves and the power they THINK they have.

Going over my list of hardware that will be needed.

BTW....My dog will be ready to.

GET EM' CHOPPER!!!!!! LOL!

Ready and willing.......

Posted by: Dave at September 12, 2009 7:35 PM

Posted by: Jay Guevara at September 12, 2009 6:47 PM

Good, me too. Just want to make sure the warts or the good is not forgotten.

Posted by: Anonymous at September 12, 2009 10:16 PM

Anon, if you're a loyal American just providing context, then I apologize. We've got warts, no two ways about it. It's just that most Reds focus exclusively on the warts as a way of tearing this country down. They don't love America at all, and intentionally focus on any and all shortcomings, even making up some, as a way of crapping on this country.

If I was mistaken in taking you for one such Red, I humbly apologize.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at September 13, 2009 10:12 AM

Yep, I changed to Bing, when I read this on Instapundit.

Posted by: Skeej at September 13, 2009 11:19 AM

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