« Right Wing Talk Show Hosts Daydreams About Obama's Assasination | Main | Folsom Street Kiddy Fashion »

Love the pic. Good way to start the morning with a chuckle.

More "Liberal Projection" about those "Knuckle-Dragging Violent Right Wing Raaaaaacists!!"

What all this is designed to cover up is the fact that political violence is an organized, accepted, and institutionalized thing on the Left.

Just look at murderers Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn, the Democratic plot to kill delagates to the RNC, the Pittsburgh riots, Black Panther thugs intimidating voters in Philadelphia, radio towers being blown up by the Earth Liberation Front (ELF), scientists and researchers being threatened, assaulted, and having cars overturned and burned by the Animal Liberation Front (ALF), SUVs, housing developments and condos torched by ELF, and on and on.

Oh, and let's not forget all the organized union violence, which is also a LEFTIST thing, and is becoming increasingly political.

These are real things that have happened......not figments of Nacy Pelosi or Janet Napolitano's fevered imagination.

Do they deal with it? do they even acknowledge it?

Nah....they're too busy blaming Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh for inciting imaginary violence, and staking out the local VFW and Americal Legion looking for "domestic terrorists".

I asked one of our favorite Leftie trolls the following question. Which would you rather do:

1) Carry a "Pro Abortion" sign near a bunch of pro-lifers?

2) Carry an "Obama Is Not the Answer" sign anywhere near an ACORN or union sponsored event?

I never got an answer - because we already KNOW the answer. The first option would be unpleasant - the second would get you hurt or killed.

Isn't this what is being done against the white race by the left already?

Hey, I've got an idea. Why doesn't the government control the airwaves and call it the "Fairness Doctrine" that way radio will be filled only with love, and hope 'n change!

RE: Posted by: Vladimir Lenin at September 30, 2009 6:56 AM

Awww, Vlad - you're such a kidder!!!

BTW - how's Yoko?

Ooops - sorry - wrong Lennon / Lenin......

Bette Midler's Village Is Missing Its Idiot

Hey! Stop insulting idiots!

Proof positive ... these two bimboes together don't have even ONE brain cell to rub between them.

Hey, has-been Bette, it's really very hard to make Joy look kinda sort almost but not quite smart. But you sorta kinda almost did.

I had a flashback to the recurring "NPR" sketch on Saturday Night Live. Now THAT was some exciting, motivational entertainment.

Hollyweird is a villiage full of idiots and that old bat MIDLER is just one of them

So then, is she calling the Moonbeam Messiah a Hutu or a Tutsi?

I don't know, Duke. Which of those tribes is from Kenya?

(It's joke, leftards.)

Dang, I have several of her CDs too. Oh well, another celeb whose product I can put on Ebay...more cash for me.

Oh what irony! Who was it that refused to stop the broadcasts calling for the murder of the "cockroaches" (i.e., the Tutsis) in Rwanda? That's right, the Clinton administration. He refused to call genocide by its proper name so that he didn't have to help the Tutsis that were being slaughtered to the tune of around a million. But don't worry folks, the leftists are making up for their failure to call genocide by its proper name during the Rwandan holocaust by calling principled political opposition genocide.

The leftist mental contortions just keep getting more and more grotesque. 1984, here we come!

I'm sure all the women here just LOVE the caption on the kitty photo.

Conservative women generally have better senses of humor than uptight left-wing feminist women.

That dumb bitch (Behar) isn't even funny.

The caption on the photo made me a laugh! I don't get all wee-wee'd up about man-humor.

Right, V the K, and conservative women also understand that conservative men respect them as people, and when a picture like the one above is posted they also know it's directed at the stupidity gushing from moronic women like Midler, Behar and Fox. In fact, I've fantasized about bitch-slapping them myself for the simple reason that they make women look stupid.

And fantasizing about slapping people makes you look smart?

No, anon, being smart makes me look smart, fantasizing about slapping stupid women makes me human.

Leftists seem to have no problem with media-driven stereotypes of unmarried men as boors and clods, and married men/fathers as clueless doofuses. (There's some masochism in play there, I think.) But they get bent out of shape at what is clearly a tongue-in-cheek LOLCat.

So, is Nonnypants just feigning the usual troll faux-outrage, or is he as bitter as he is stupid? It can be both.

Is anonypuss...

A. Bitter?
B. Stupid?
C. Both?

C. Both

Bad bette twiddler looks like she's been hit with the ugly stick a few times too many. Age ain't helping her either. Go away bitch.

I'm glad I'm one of your favorites Tony but I'm no "troll". Unlike many here, I never call anyone names and I don't post inflammatory stuff just for the sake of being inflammatory, unlike a good many of the actual blog threads. No worries about that though. Moonbattery caters to the far right fringe and I come here expecting to see that point of view.

I ask questions and offer linkages. I try to demonstrate the absurdities in your questions (like the one at the start of the comments here).

You speculate about the response of two different groups to a counter demonstrator. You don't just ask your question, you answer it too, proving it's bogus, but it fits the right's template so you happily parade it and then proclaim "we already KNOW the answer".

No you don't. You KNOW the preconceived right wing answer.

In the real world you would get ten different responses from ten different groups, no matter which side of the fence they were on.

By the way Tony, I also asked you a question, and more than once too. Was the Knoxville church shooter, (a nut to be sure), a right wing killer?

Better yet, Tony, were there right-wing protesters at the DNC convention tossing bags of cement from overpasses onto buses with convention delegates in them? Did the FBI break up a ring of right-wingers plotting to firebomb the DNC convention? No. And No.

No one knows who murdered the Census worker in Kentucky. And the politics of the other lone gunmen are ambiguous at best. What is unambiguous is that 1. Left wing groups organize to commit violence, and, 2. The left-wing has no more aversion to promoting domestic terrorists to tenured professorships than it has against middle-aged film directors drugging and raping middle school girls.

Someone else dodges my question, yet again.

How come the right can't own up to their killers?

Lao;
Do the right thing.
You know who was responsible - tell the police.
In all conscience you can't allow a crazy killer to walk around free.

Duh - the killer was arrested. Care to read about his political motivations?

A Right Wing Killer Explains

Lao, this should put a smile on your face:

http://whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/BODIES.html

Yep, at the naive willingness of some, to concoct, and believe, absurd conspiracy theories. As you may have noticed, I prefer reality.

RE: Posted by: Lao at September 30, 2009 1:39 PM

Lao, nobody is avoiding or dodging you - you are STILL missing the point.

Ok - let's look at the Knoxville shooting:

Nobody denies that Jim David Adkisson was fed-up with liberals when he attacked the church he used to attend with his ex wife.

In fact, he even said, “They embrace every pervert that comes down the pike, but if they find out your (sic) a conservative, they absolutely hate you,” he wrote. “I know. I experienced it.”

Here on the political Right (particularly those of us that are Catholic / Christian) we don't agree with what he did, and nobody here denies that after what he saw as years of abuse by the Liberal establishment, Mr. Adkisson did something horrifically stupid, and was expecting it to be his suicide as well.

You want FACTS? Here's one you won't face: The political Left in this country is pissing a lot of people off, and you and all of you neosocialists from President Obama and Nancy Pelosi all the way down to YOU nd to ask yourselves what YOU can do about it.

Notice that he doesn't talk about Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh and all the other "whipping boys" for the political Left - he talks about LIBERALS, and the LIBERAL AGENDA - not about "Conservatism".

This reminds me of the old saying, "You need to love your enemies, because after all, you made 'em".

You reap what you sow, buddy - and WE don't "own" him - YOU do.

What you absolutely won't face up to is the fact that violence by the political Left isn't committed by lone oddballs - it's an organized and institutionalized thing, and is strictly by design.

And another thing: Why are you always bringing up the subject of firearms? On previous threads, you were bringing it up all the time. There's another old saying that comes to mind, "Never trust anyone that's trying to disarm you". Why are you so preoccupied with that issue? Are you afraid of people that can defend themselves?

Was that too "inflammatory" for ya?

The political Left is pissing people off? Let me hand you a crying towel. Elections have consequences and guess what? Your side lost.

Are you actually trying to claim that murdering liberals is justified because "we reap what we sow"? We own him? We are responsible?

Utterly pathetic, not to mention irresponsibly dangerous.

The right wants to absolve itself of any connection when nuts like Adkisson kill people. Sorry, with Adkisson there is a direct connection. He had anti-liberal books by Goldberg, Hannity, Savage and O'Reilly and he decided to kill liberals.

You need to look at what your side sows which, interestingly enough, gets us back to the theme of this thread.

RE: Posted by: Lao at September 30, 2009 4:18 PM

Lao is still trying to turn things around with,
"...He had anti-liberal books by Goldberg, Hannity, Savage and O'Reilly AND (emphasis added)he decided to kill liberals."

When did Bernie Goldberg, Sean Hannity, Mike Savage and Bill O'Reilly suggest that killing anyone was a good idea.

Maybe we should start "banning" books, since you apparently feel that the "wrong" books "cause violence". Your swastika is showing again. Lao.

Note that you yourself even say, "AND he decided to kill liberals"

So it WAS his decision....not part of a pattern, not part of an organized group (like a labor union or a so-called "environmental", "animal rights", or "anti-capitalist" group....it was HIS decision.

You continue with, "You need to look at what your side sows which, interestingly enough, gets us back to the theme of this thread."

Yes, it does - and you are still trying to hide behind tragedies like the Knoxville incident so that you don't have to own up to the thuggery on the Left.

As the "Reverend" Wright once said, 'your chickens are coming home to roost'.

Aren't liberals the same people that argue, on behalf of socialized medicine, that one case of failure does not condemn the entire system?

Consistently inconsistent.

Not banning books, not banning free speech, but understanding that "free speech" particularly from the media, demands diligent responsibility.

Going back to the thread, radio broadcasts in Rwanda incited mobs to genocide. Are you going to claim that each person who participated was individually responsible? No, the media played a part.

You mention a number of organized left groups - labour unions, environmental, animal rights, anti-capitalists.

Care to list who those organized groups have managed to kill? Care to demonstrate a "pattern" of killings?

I'm not trying to claim that there are not deadly fanatics on the left. There are. The Unibomber is a good example. One of the current ten most wanted is an environmental bomber.

We have previously discussed a number of killers, all of whom I believe, can be linked to the right, thanks to their obvious associations. All of them were linked to hot button issues for the right - abortion, anti-immigration, gun control, demonization of liberals. You deny it and write them off as nuts or, through convoluted attempts at logic, you try to link them to the left.

Nuts there are, and feeding their paranoia will lead to more tragedy. How many "reap what you sow" liberals, cops or innocent victims have to be gunned down before you start to see a "pattern"?

Lao, I saw nothing in that letter that indicated Adkisson was driven to murder by right wing pundits. Furthermore, I've never heard a right wing pundit suggest murder was the answer to our political struggles.

It seems as if you think people need to be told by pundits to hate liberals rather than acquiring that hatred directly through personal experience. In my experience, personal experience is a much stronger motivator than inflammatory rhetoric.

I'm sure all the women here just LOVE the caption on the kitty photo.

Posted by: Anonymous at September 30, 2009 9:31 AM

I thought it was pretty funny and fortunately, unlike you, I'm also inteligent enought to see the humor as intended.

You've got a little problem with your cause and effect timeline, Lao. Rush Limbaugh, Hannity, O'Reilly, and Goldberg have been around for years but these killings are very recent. As Tony has alluded, I think the trigger for these killings less likely right wing punditry, than left wing bullying, and in Adkisson's case, the crappy economy. And just to be clear, I'm not justifying the killings, only pointing out that it's extremely unlikely that right wing pundits who are doing what they've always done would suddenly start driving people to kill.

VK's trying to lay the Kentucky census worker murder on leftist because he amusingly and ignorantly associates Roman Polanski's atrocities as consistent with liberal's mindset. The only thing consistent is spinning the blame from the truly deserving like Michelle Bachmann. Granted, no one knows who killed the census worker (with the exception of course of the murder(s))but we do know who instigated the hatred towards those workers. And it wasn't the left.

Sheesh, Andy, Michelle Backmann is NOT responsible for the murder of the census worker in Kentucky. Why even suggest such a thing? And while you and many other liberals may not approve of Polanski's acts, it's pretty clear that a lot of leftists in Hollywood think what he did was juuuuust fine.

Serious question Andy... why'd you bring Bachmann into this?

When attacking one conservative fails, what does the left do?... attack another. We've figured you out and can read you like a book. So predictable.

Well Judith, "driven to murder" is putting it way too strongly and I have not said that he was. Nor did I say that pundits advocated murder. He cites his own personal experiences and that was certainly a factor.

"Influenced" on the other hand, is pretty obvious. He cites a wish, in his manifesto, that he could have killed the 100 people in Goldberg's book. Obviously, that book and the other anti-liberal books by right wing pundits found at his home, had an influence on his mindset and even went so far as to put specific targets in his mind. He didn't up and decide to kill liberals in a vacuum, his views were reinforced by people he obviously looked up to, people in the mainstream media.

Lao, you do realize that Michael Savage was one of the 100 people covered in Goldberg's book, and Ann Coulter was likened to him, don't you? What are we to make of that in light of your claims?

Literature, movies, etc... incline... they do not compel.

Every act committed by man/woman is of personal choice.

Responsibility for one's own actions.

So true, AttC. I personally would have supported pulling the plug on the Hutu radio broadcasts, but that's because they were literally calling on fellow Hutus to kill Tutsis and the whole country of Somalia was in a state of anarchy. There is absolutely no parallel to what was happened in Somalia and a few random nut jobs who are bent out of shape about liberal ham-fistedness.

Sand, meet right wing head.

Isn't it Moonbattery's mandate to rile up a few random nut jobs who are bent out of shape about liberal ham-fistedness?

I haven't noticed any threads devoted to a critique of Republican options re health care, or Afghanistan, or the financial crisis, or anything else.

He had anti-liberal books by Goldberg, Hannity, Savage and O'Reilly and he decided to kill liberals.

The Unabomber owned a well-thumbed copy of Al Gore's "Earth in the Balance." SFW.

Maxwell, we've covered all those things and more, so I don't know what you're talking about.

Why can't the leftists understand Moonbattery is a place where smart, independent people who aren't afraid of freedom come to interact with one another? It's like the Cheers, the place where everyone knows your pseudonym (except, of course, for those trolls who use "anon" and are all jumbled together in one slop bucket).

The facts defy Lao's attempt at spinning.

1. The Tea-parties were peaceful. The G20 and anti-Prop 8 protests were violent.

2. While there may be isolated nutjobs on the right who commit violence, organized violence --- through the SEIU, the Weather Underground, the FALN, the Blaq Bloq --- comes invariably from the left.

3. The right shuns those who commit violence for political purposes. Bill Ayers, Che Guevara, and Sarah Jane Olson are all heroes to the left. Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter both pardoned domestic terrorists.

4. Left-wingers who commit violence like biting off a man's finger or dropping bags of cement on buses at the RNC convention --- are defended and even lauded at left-wing websites like DailyKooks, IndyMedia, and the DUMB.

Judith and ATTC, my point was that while Bachmann may not be directly responsible for the brutal slaughter of the Census worker, the obvious resentment expressed by the perpetrator(s)is directly proportional with Bachman's latest irrational diatribes about those scary, stalking, and intrusive Census workers. And this fear has been additionally trumped up through Glenn Beck, Neal Boortz, et al. who bob their heads accordingly with Bachmann.
Yet V the K takes an opportunity to asininely equivocate the result of what could easily be a right ring promoted attack as being due to some concocted left wing "groups organize to commit violence". He backs his nonsense up with a misleading concept that the left wing somehow promotes teenage rape.
It would be truly interesting if you folks could only step back into the real world and witness how unhinged and irrational you've become.

Andy, Bachmann is not only not directly responsible, she's not indirectly responsible. There is a world of difference between concern that the census may be falsified for political ends and calling for the summary execution of census workers. When left-wingers don't perceive such obvious distinctions it makes it hard to take them seriously.

As I have mentioned before, I have no problem acknowledging left wing violence and I have no problem with seeing the perpetrators of that violence charged and jailed.

Your examples are a little strange. Weather Underground and FALN were active decades ago. Let's try to stay in this century if we can. The others might be involved in scuffles and vandalism but am not aware of any murders. I am talking about murder.

Ayers, Guevara and Olsen are heroes to the left? I had to look up who Olsen was. Once again, you are citing people who did their deeds 40 years ago. The right wing murders I have cited have happened in the last two years.

I love your comment "The right shuns those who commit violence for political purposes." Shuns is correct. Your side won't even admit that the killers I have listed are right wing, despite their obvious political leanings.

You claim the left, at various websites, has "lauded" dropping cement and biting off fingers. Produce a link, I'd like to read about that.

Judith, once again, my point was that rational thinking would come much closer to implicating Bachmann, Beck, et al to the KY Census worker than anyone on the left as VK implied. Bachmann at least raises a debate. VK's theory doesn't.

Lao, what makes you think any of the so-called right-wing murderers you've mentioned are heroes of the right? I've never heard anyone on the right praise Adkisson. Meanwhile, even though that murderous thug, Che Guevara, died decades ago, he still remains the nation's #1 t-shirt salesman to the liberal marketplace. Do you not see a major difference?

Here's a link of lefties defending and lauding the finger-biter:

http://demopedia.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6455972

And another:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/9/3/776286/-Midday-open-thread

And another:

http://www.drumsnwhistles.com/2009/09/03/health-care-vigil-in-thousand-oaks-provocation-to-violent-response/

And the commenters here are solidly on the side of the biter:

http://www.lies.com/wp/2009/08/30/audiovisual-commentary-on-healthcare-in-the-us/.

Also, even though there were many MoveOn-dot-org participants and witnesses, none of them turned in the biter to the police. Interesting, no?

Did I say they were "heroes of the right"?

No.

My concern is that the right fails to make a connection between right-wing nuts who snap and kill people, and the constant demonization of liberals/Democrats/Obama/the left/ etc. etc. by mainstream pundits at Fox, by talk radio hosts, and all the way down to small fry websites like Moonbattery.

"Free speech" that de-humanizes the other side and promotes paranoid fantasies (death panels, FEMA concentration camps ), is utterly irresponsible.

I asked before: "Nuts there are, and feeding their paranoia will lead to more tragedy. How many "reap what you sow" liberals, cops or innocent victims, have to be gunned down before you start to see a "pattern"?"

Thanks for the links, although I couldn't find anything at Kos re fingers or cement.

As for the others, as I expected, the "lauding" appeared in comments not the actual blog as you yourself acknowledge.

Are you willing to stand behind every right wing comment here or on other blogs? Of course not. Am I willing to stand behind every left wing comment here or on other blogs? Of course not.

Why? Because comments are anonymous free-for-all.

Contrary to the claim in your last line:

The drumsnwhistles/odd time signatures blog says:

"I’ve given this report to the police along with my photos. I am not heralding anyone as a hero here. I certainly do not celebrate the idea of anyone biting anyone else, no matter what the reason."

"My concern is that the right fails to make a connection between right-wing nuts who snap and kill people, and the constant demonization of liberals/Democrats/Obama/the left/ etc. etc. by mainstream pundits at Fox, by talk radio hosts, and all the way down to small fry websites like Moonbattery."

And how is the demonization of left-wingers by the right qualitatively different from the demonization of right-wingers by the left? I give you credit for making an effort to conduct yourself in a civil manner, but surely you are aware that there is as much, if not more, vitriol coming from the left as there is coming from the right.

Sure there are inflammatory statements made by some on the left against the right, and they are "qualitatively", the same. Go to any left or right blog and look at the comments. Same stuff on both.

Are the anti-left statements made by mainstream pundits on the right "qualitatively" the same as anti-right statements made by mainstream pundits on the left?

I don't think so.

Are anti-left-anti-right statements "quantitatively" the same?

I don't think so.

Look at talk radio, dominated by right wing anti-liberals. Look at Fox, with very few exceptions, devoted to right wing attacks.

O'Reilly demonized Dr. Tiller for years as "Tiller the Killer". He tried to deny it, after Tiller was assassinated.

Can you show me any mainstream left pundit who offered as targeted and demonizing an attack against anti-abortion groups?

Well, if you consider Olbermann "mainstream", he called pro-life blogger, Jill Stanek, "The Worst Person in the World". And Alan Colmes accused Jenn Giroux of Women Influencing the Nation of sharing responsibility for Tiller's death. That's pretty inflammatory rhetoric, I'd say.

And as far as actual violence against pro-lifers, I recall back in June, a guy trying to run over a pro-life protester with his SUV, and another case in July where someone pulled a gun on a pro-life protester.

There is a qualitative difference between these cases and the killing of Tiller, of course, besides the fact that the pro-abortion attackers were unsuccessful in their goal to harm their targets, namely that the pro-lifers were attacked for their message, whereas Tiller was attacked because he killed late term babies on a regular basis. Not that I support vigilante justice, but I think that difference actually shows that the left is willing to kill for much less than the right. In fact, they're willing to kill just because a person disagrees with them.