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How long would the Holocaust have lasted if every Jew had met the Gestapo with a gun in his hand?

Look at the bright side, when the war between liberals and Conservatives begins it won't last too long on account of all of them not having any firearms. Douche-bag liberal, I'd like you to meet my Ithaca 12 gauge; her name is Sleeping Beauty.

The second amendment is for citizens to arm themselves responsibly. With this, they may be free from oppression and live without the weight of government on them. Then again, I agree with Obamasux here, the liberals are deathly affraid of an open confrontation with people who can use firearms, it is only normal for them to do all they can to confiscate weapons.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at September 23, 2009 7:39 PM

It doesn't pertain to Nazi Germany, but the situations were similar enough to warrant mentioning:

"And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? After all, you knew ahead of time that those bluecaps were out at night for no good purpose. And you could be sure ahead of time that you'd be cracking the skull of a cutthroat. Or what about the Black Maria sitting out there on the street with one lonely chauffeur -- what if it had been driven off or its tires spiked. The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!

"If... if... We didn't love freedom enough. And even more -- we had no awareness of the real situation. We spent ourselves in one unrestrained outburst in 1917, and then we hurried to submit. We submitted with pleasure! We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward."

~ Aleksandr Isayevich Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago

HITLER and STALIN as well as LENNIN were big time gun control advocates and no doubpt so was MAO

There will be a river of blood in the streets before Patriots cower in fear in their basements. Stalin could terrorize the population because they didn't know better. We know the price of freedom and I will gladly pay it, but not before taking enough Liberals to clog Hell's gate.

You mean Mao-bama Spurwing?

We're buying lots of ammo. Is America on a collision course?

C-Bug, stock plenty and make sure you teach your spouse and grown kids on how to use pistols. If things turn ugly, you'll see how quickly the Liberals will scatter. They can do their name calling all they want. When push will come to shove, I'll be packing heat to protect my family and their insults will only get them a few holes more. If a Patriot is shot or if Obama's monkeys start using violence, they'll see what a real problem is.

If I may repeat a post I made on another blog concerning the nearly 30% upswing in the firearms industry the past year...

That's what I call stimulus.

Obama failed to stimulate the auto industry, he failed to stimulate the banking industry, he failed at ALL of his stimulus tar-babies - except for the firearm industry which was the LAST thing he wanted stimulated (other than, maybe, Misshell).

I bet Bible sales are way up, also.

Bibles and guns. Charming. Meet the American Taliban.

Fundamentalists, no matter what their religion, are the problem.

Bibles and guns. Charming. Meet the American Taliban.Fundamentalists, no matter what their religion, are the problem.

I missed the part where Baptists go about dragging women out of their homes and stoning them in honor killings, or hacking their heads off for refusing to convert.

Blanket generalizations, no matter what their target, are the problem.

I have read these words of Solzhenitsyn's before. It's interesting that he placed the blame for the Bolshevik revolution and its consequences, on where it belongs. The Russian people.

It was good old-fashioned human inertia at work - everyone was hoping the goon squads would simply pass by and leave them alone, and then life would go on. It's a shame they didn't heed Ben Franklin's words, "We shall hang together, or most assuredly we shall all hang separately."

I suspect my grandchildren will probably ask me the same question - why didn't you people DO something? I will reply that in my day, America was in an awkward position. It was too late to work within the system, and too early to shoot the bastards.

As to the Toronto gun sweep, why didn't people simply hide their weapons or lie about having them in the first place? Were the cops conducting house-to-house searches of every residence in the city, looking under throw-rugs and behind sofas?

If not, then I have trouble understanding why anyone would comply voluntarily with this. For one thing, guns are expensive and I question what right the government has to confiscate a piece of personal property worth hundreds of dollars.

RE: Posted by: Sally Out West at September 23, 2009 10:09 PM

Sally sallies forth with the usual liberal blather: "Fundamentalists, no matter what their religion, are the problem."

It's the same old "Moral Equivalence" argument the Leftists have been using for years.

Funny thing, Sal - we have a lot of Amish, Mennonites and other "Religious Fundamentalists" living out here near the Biden mansion, and they haven't blown up anything lately.

Polititions, no matter what their creed, are the problem.

Posted by: Sally In Outspace at September 23, 2009 10:09 PM

Fixed it for you Sally

Politicians

Anon was me.
I feel like we are in a "sink or swim" situation like 10's of millions of other true Americans. It might be just me but I feel like this is my last chance to buy ammo before it is way to expensive by way of micro stamping, excessive taxation or importation is stopped.

We live in stressing times and the next 5'ish years will be interesting. I hope that we can pull thru with it and still be the same US of A

Anon was me.
I feel like we are in a "sink or swim" situation like 10's of millions of other true Americans. It might be just me but I feel like this is my last chance to buy ammo before it is way to expensive by way of micro stamping, excessive taxation or importation is stopped.

We live in stressing times and the next 5'ish years will be interesting. I hope that we can pull thru with it and still be the same US of A

Sally, you are giving women a bad name. Of course WE realize you are a liberal woman and barely qualify. ;-)

Posted by: Strap-on Sally at September 23, 2009 10:09 PM- "Fundamentalists, no matter what their religion, are the problem."

Including the Religion of Poop?

Posted by: Cylar at September 24, 2009 12:13 AM- "As to the Toronto gun sweep, why didn't people simply hide their weapons or lie about having them in the first place? Were the cops conducting house-to-house searches of every residence in the city, looking under throw-rugs and behind sofas?

If not, then I have trouble understanding why anyone would comply voluntarily with this. For one thing, guns are expensive and I question what right the government has to confiscate a piece of personal property worth hundreds of dollars."

Suspect, rather strongly, that there is more to this than is being reported. Much more. 400 is a lot. Even if each owner had 2, that is a lot of registered owners for as restrictive a place as Toronto. I do not believe that many were just "laying around". You cannot lie about ownership. You are on the local Police books. The weapons would have been stored according to regulations. Most of these sorts of prohibitive registrations allow for any number of vague "indiscretions" open to interpretation on-the-spot. In some instances, technically, one is not really allowed to put a weapon down, or hand it to another, even if he or she is also registered. That can be interpreted as "unsecured". What they may have done is requested/demanded to view the owners safe, and weapon. Once the weapon is removed, you are open to "interpretation". They may not have even bothered to make that much effort. Not with so many seized. They may have merely gotten the owner to open the safe, and seized it. What are ya gonna do? Risk charges over it? Who is the liberal court going to side with?

It might be on the up and up. But it smells like BS.

Hey guys, do you realize it was "Jimbo" that made the fundamentalist comment, not "Sally Out West"?
Read Sally's last line again, then make sure you have the right target!

No, Lisa, the moniker of the person making the comment appears under the comment, not on top of it. Sally was the one who made the idiotic comment equating Christians who've never blown up anybody with Islamists who strap bombs onto their children, cut off heads, and fire rockets into schoolyards.

Lisa, it was Sally's comment. The Posted By appears under the comment, not above it.

Cylar, gun owners are generally a law abiding group. When an officer makes a request, we'll comply. That assumes it's reasonable. If the officers involved have stated they intend to confiscate the weapon, and that's the result of a new law or requirement, then, as much as this pains me, there would be a dead officer or two in my house.

I don't want a shooting revolution, a ballot is always preferred to a bullet, but make no mistake, no one is taking anything from me. I still have faith the good people of the US will come through in November of 2010 and toss the bastards out - way out this time. If by some incredible chance they don't, then I will be spending a lot of time at the range and purchasing a lot of ammo. I think there are many on here and other conservative blogs who would agree with me.

Ooops!
I stand corrected. I guess I was the one off-target! My apologies, especially to Jimbo.
Sally Out West-this is what mature adults who love God and own firearms say when they are wrong. What do you leftist/liberal types say when you are?

God shows us how to walk straight and be honest. The second amendment teaches us that WE are the ones who are between harm and our country and family. Funny how hard it is to understand for Liberals... loving one's country, or a family is such an alien concept for them. Let's not even talk about God here, as they are chasing him away whenever they can.

Lisa, I found the Mennonite/Amish comment interesting and while I don't know much about their faith I would agree, they are not a problem.

That said, look at the comments of some of the other presumably God-fearin' folk on here.

Son of Taz at 4:14 is particularly disturbing. His notion of democracy is, if he doesn't get the electoral change he wants in half a presidential term, then it's time to bring out the guns.

In other words, Taz, "if by some incredible chance" the MAJORITY of the American people disagree with you and VOTE to keep the Democrats in power, you will ignore that democratic mandate in favor of violence.

Oh, and before I forget. Go revisit that video collection of Bush=Hitler signs posted earlier that whined about how hypocritical liberals are. What was Maddow talking about? Threats of right-wing violence enabled by the media. Look in the mirror.

In other words, Taz, "if by some incredible chance" the MAJORITY of the American people disagree with you and VOTE to keep the Democrats in power, you will ignore that democratic mandate in favor of violence.

This is why our country was founded as a constitutional republic. The majority is not always right.

"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." - Ben Franklin

Bibles and guns. Charming. Meet the American Taliban.
Not the Taliban, but the Pilgrims, the Founding Fathers and the Pioneers.

Benjamin Franklin: 1706 - 1790.

"Lunch" - came into use 1823.

Democracy is two lambs and a wolf voting. Fascism is a well-armed wolf contesting the vote.

"Fascists believe that nations and/or races are in perpetual conflict whereby only the strong can survive by being healthy, vital, and by asserting themselves in conflict against the weak."

Fascism is a well-armed wolf contesting the vote.

Sounds like the lambs should be well-armed, too. In that circumstance.

They can register my weapons when they pry them from my cold dead fingers!!!

Looks like we're both wrong.

Democracy is two lambs and a wolf voting. Fascism is a well-armed wolf contesting the vote.

What happens when that wolf finds another wolf and then another and so on and they start to walk around passing themselves off as sheep?

"Fascists believe that nations and/or races are in perpetual conflict whereby only the strong can survive by being healthy, vital, and by asserting themselves in conflict against the weak."

Only if they have an understanding of the state of nature. Now if only their were some type of belief system we could all have access to that helped us realize our state of nature and how rise above it.

fix tag

I've stocked up, thousands of rounds, mostly military calibers. If it comes to conflict between "the people" and our military, or the UN, if I have to steal firearms I have ammunition for them; if I have to steal ammunition I have firearms for it. It would disappoint me endlessly for this to come to pass, especially if I had to drop my local LEOs, but I'm voting in 2010, whether by ballot or by bullet. Oh, and I'm an atheist, but I guess you can't have everything.

"Bibles and guns. Charming. Meet the American Taliban.

Fundamentalists, no matter what their religion, are the problem."

Posted by: Sally Out West at September 23, 2009 10:09 PM

Don't make me link to the list of Islamic terror attacks again, and challenge you to provide a comparable list of Christian terror attacks. Don't make me do that, nitwit.

RE: Posted by: Mr Evilwrench at September 24, 2009 1:11 PM

The good news is that the military is on our side. If the situation ever gets that bad, they simply will not carry out the orders.

A more plausible scenario is civil unrest, as in the LA riots. Who knows what kind of nonsense we will see when President Obama gets defeated in the 2012 elections?

Here in BidenLand we have an interesting perspective on things. In April 1968 the Delaware National Guard was deployed to the city of Wilmington after Dr. King was assasinated. They were there until January, 1969. This is said to be the longest occupation of an American city by state forces in the nation's history,and definitely the longest military occupation of an American city since the Civil War.

That's also why we took riot training very, very seriously when I was serving in the Delaware ARNG back in the late '90s......

Did I claim there was a one to one equivalency between Islamic Fundamentalists and Christian Fundamentalists? No, actually I didn't. I also backed off my blanket statement at 6:24.

"Sally was the one who made the idiotic comment equating Christians who've never blown up anybody"

Right, because dropping bombs on cities and killing millions of women and children indiscriminately doesn't count. Christians would never do that.

"Sally was the one who made the idiotic comment equating Christians who've never blown up anybody"

Right, because dropping bombs on cities and killing millions of women and children indiscriminately doesn't count. Christians would never do that.

"Bibles and guns. Charming. Meet the American Taliban.

Fundamentalists, no matter what their religion, are the problem."

Posted by: Sally Out West at September 23, 2009 10:09 PM

That statement speaks for itself. Either A) You are hopelessly ignorant of the true nature of the Taliban,

Or B) You are a paranoid Christophobe.

Mandate? Mandate? Let's see: Obama outspends his opponent by what? 8 to 1? after reneging on a promise to only use federal funds. He benefits from a willing tool of main stream media, the assistance of his buddies at ACORN, his surrogates' eager use of the race card and vilification of private citizens, a severe lack of interest in his past by the media, his opponent's association with Bush, and a timely meltdown in the economy. All that and he manages a four percent difference (4%) in the final vote. Mandate, me bollocks!

2010 will come and "We The People" will prove those words are not just an introductory clause, but the wellspring of delegated powers.

2010 and the rights so dearly bought and so clearly stated which are enshrined in The Constitution will once again be given the respect they are due. But I won't be gloating (much) over the downfall of socialism in America; that year Thanksgiving will truly live its name.

So let it be written, so let it be done. I hope.

Posted by: Blubber at September 24, 2009 3:23 PM

Hey Meathead, explain exactly when and where MILLIONS of innocent Women and Children were killed in the name of Jesus Christ by indiscriminate bombing of cities.