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taken together with the black dingell supporter sporting a obama/hitler poster one sees a pattern emerging, namely that the left will falsify things to be outraged about in order to further their agenda, this makes the "victim parades" they usually march out with seem tame and commonplace, in this case they fake the perpetrator not the victim.

It really says something about the lack of genuine racism in America these days when the supposedly oppressed classes feel the need to manufacture fake hate crimes just to keep the myth alive.

I wonder when chairman zero is going to put on "Black Face" and accuse Americans of being racist because their POTUS pimp hand'd african americans? That would get the liberals panties soiled lickity split and into a tizzy.
O'bozo got to get them numbers up somehow. She is becoming a Lame Duck president real fast.

Liberal fucks have been faking this stuff for years:

Tawana Brawley
Ahmad Saad Nasim
Kerri Dunn
Leah Miller
Allison Jackson
Madonna Constantine
Sarah Marshak
Crystal Mangum
Donald Maynard
Alicia Hardin

Need I go on?

Liberalism really is a mental illness, with an entire spectrum of symptoms.

Anything to keep Al Sharpton is business.

And speaking of Sharpton....

He IS the American Arafat. Think about it: Arafat had to keep the Phallustinians victimized in order to maintain his hold on power. Sharpton has to keep American blacks victimized in order to maintain his prestige.

Posted by: Refuter of Liberal Vermin at August 17, 2009 5:13 PM

That pretty much sums it up. Without constantly telling black people that they're neglected/profiled/kept-down then Sharpton and Jackson WOULD NOT have a job. They've made a career on brainwashing black Americans into feeling as though they are ALWAYS a victim of the evil white man.

"Repeatedly using an obscenity and the N-word, the author of the message threatens to kill"

Yo homey, that sounds just like RAP music.

Fake but accurate.

What's the frequency, Kenneth? All too high, I'm afraid.

What is the point in posting this, and why does it raise so much anger?

There are a lot of fake Rolex watches out there, but the number of fake Rolexes doesn't tell us how many real Rolexes there are.

"There are a lot of fake Rolex watches out there, but the number of fake Rolexes doesn't tell us how many real Rolexes there are." Posted by: Brandon
Yeeaaahh....that's real good thinking there , Brandy.

And Brandy the Candy-ass just demonstrated AGAIN why he is a dumbass.

And what exactly is your point?

LOL! He did it again!!!

You take such joy in my apparent stupidity. Perhaps you better educate me with your all seeing wisdom, oh great Jimbo.

His point is that a racially motivated crime is as valuable to a Leftard as a Rolex watch. IN other words, when a Marixist bootlicking fascist like Brandy hears about a fake hate crime he hears "KA-CHING"

What do you do for a living, Jimbo?

I don't know, but YOU must be a professional "activist" race-baiter and Marixist bootlicker.

PWNED

I'm going to report all of you heat filled meanies to The Great One, starting with you Jimbo.

I herd goats, clean guns, and install trailer skirts. During season I club baby seals and go noodling.

*snicker*

We have something in common, goats. Do you do to them what I dream about every night? Tell me more! My mommy says I have to stop the dreaming about goats because she has to change my sheets every night.

Yep, that sums up the mentality of about two thirds of this site.

Any honest person knows full well that if White-on-Black "hate crimes" were at all prevalent, there would be no need to make up some fake incident to "raise awareness of White racism". The Media would be all over genuine instances of this kind in a flash. Unlike the Duke Lacrosse Team hoax, the commuter train mass-murder of Whites by an affluent Black cretin in the Northeast a few years ago was a dead story within 2 to 3 weeks, because, by and large, "Liberal" "journalists" just don't have the guts to address Black-on-White hate crimes.

And the other third dreams about licking Fidel's soiled panties and mouthwashing Michael Moore's tighty-whiteys.

Right, Olbie, ol' buddy?

Brandon,

My Rolex has a [sweeping] second hand. In other words, the second hand on a fake would appear to be ticking or bouncing.

I hope this helps you, somehow???

You expect people to cast off 200 years of history like it's nothing?

I'm not saying it's right, but people are tied to their history.

And of course the politicians will exploit that.

I'm going to report all of you heat filled meanies to The Great One, starting with you Jimbo.

Posted by: Brandon at August 17, 2009 7:03 PM

"heat filled meanies"? Are you talking about al gore? And are you going to report al gore to al gore? I'm confused, but then again i'm not liberal. Watch out Jimbo, al gore is going to put a windmill in your bedroom.

Jimbo, I asked politely, please tell me more about your work with goats.

Or do I have to report you for committing hate crimes and get it out of you at the police station?

Speaking of history, I'm tied to all my historical heroes...Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Fidel, Che, Mugabe....they all MEANT well!

You expect people to cast off 200 years of history like it's nothing?

Damn, they're well-preserved. I'd have put most of 'em at well under 100.

You expect people to cast off 200 years of history like it's nothing?

Read the history of the Ukrainians or Armenians. They've shrugged off a lot more than that, including gross genocide (by the Russians, in the 30s, and by the Turks, in 1915, respectively). You don't see them whining.

Someday liberals are going to realize: they're responsible for blacks' problems, because they continually make excuses for inexcusable behavior.

Suppose people made excuses for inexcusable behavior by whites? What would be the totally predictable result?

Im not making excuses for anybody.

If you think the Ukrainians and Russians are best buddies you're out of your mind. (Try going to Moscow and speaking with a Ukrainian accent, I dare you.)

And do you think you're going to get different races and ethnicities to forgive each other or cast of their culture of victimhood by insulting them? By being angry about it?

Reading comprehension, my friend. It's not just for grownups.

My point was that Ukrainians (e.g., my grandfather) were brutally mistreated by the Russians. Armenians were brutally mistreated by the Turks. I won't even go to the Jews.

But that was then, this is now. My point was that none of these groups have cultivated a culture of victimhood and grievance, and all of them are successful. Coincidence? No.

Ok so that was a different place and a different time, and their response was different.

I don't know why there is a culture of victimhood, of innercity poverty, or of crime. But I am highly skeptical that it was all caused by the suggestion of liberals projecting their guilt.

If you truly want to learn, dipshit, Google "Senator Patrick Moynihan" and read about how libtards like yourself actually caused poverty, by unwittingly following orders from Moscow.

This is the kind of example where I can't understand how people believe they know what's going on.

You've got a complex history, and your dealing with the enormous complexity of not just individual psychology, but group psychology.

Then some person comes up with a simplistic answer to explain it all away. Like it was all caused by one little thing, and if we just stopped doing that, there would be no problem.

It's not liberals projecting their guilt, it's acting on it, and making excuses for blacks today, not matter who inexcusable their behavior. That's the problem, and that's why liberals are to blame for its continued existence.

Ok so that was a different place and a different time, and their response was different.

Let's see. The Armenian genocide – not enslavement – occurred in 1915. The Ukrainian genocide – not enslavement – occurred during Soviet collectivation in the 1930s. The Holocaust I won't bother to detail. Enslavement is nothing compared to...extinction. Yes?

Yet none of those groups has wrapped itself in the cloak of victimhood. All of have been successful. Why? For any number of reasons, but foremost: because playing the victim card wouldn't have gotten them anywhere, and they knew it. So they sucked it up and got on with life.

Liberals have created the black problem out of whole cloth, unless you believe that blacks are genetically inferior to the groups above. Liberals have made allowances for lousy school performance, dysfunctional culture, and crime by blacks, and we have lousy school performance, dysfunctional culture, and crime by blacks. Coincidence? I think not.

Put it this way. Suppose a football coach expected less of black athletes, and made allowances for missing blocks and tackles, or just generally dogging it. Do you think they would still excel at football?

That's my point.

And you're doing again by talking about different places and times, i.e., making excuses again. All of the crimes detailed above happened after black slavery ended in the U.S.

Stop making excuses, and demand performance! Bill Cosby is 100% correct.

STOP MAKING EXCUSES!

Put it in the athletic context. Every team occasionally suffers from bad officiating. It's bad, it's unjust, it shouldn't have happened. But it did, and it's done now. Winners shake it off and put it behind them. Losers nurture their grievance the rest of the game, which they typically lose, and then whine in the clubhouse or locker room afterward.

Now – which approach are you encouraging?

Sometimes simple solutions are quite viable to large problems.

What you're arguing for here, Brandy, is for a bureaucratic study of dozens of learned individuals, funded by tax dollards, to engage in a worldwide study.

Liberal elitism at its best. They have all the answers and because they are elitists, they have this overwhelming feeling that simple solutions don't exist because that would deflate their intelligence on a relative scale, thus not giving a need for them to use their oh-so-grand "complexity=smart" ideas.

They justify complex solutions as a way of flexing their intellect but not as a means to solve the problem... rather toss a band-aid on it.

... and they think conservatives are high-and-mighty? Liberals need to get off their pedestals of superiority and actually propose rational solutions rather than further government intervention as a means to further regulations.

*funded by tax dollars*

- typo.

To put it still another way, by making allowances for the problem, you're guaranteeing its existence.

If the IRS said, "File your income taxes by April 15th if you can, but if you can't make it, we understand, do it when you can," what do you think would happen?

They don't do that, of course. The IRS doesn't care about your excuse, whether your dog ate the return or whatever. If your tax return isn't postmarked by midnight on April 15th, it's your ass. And everybody knows that. So...post offices have long lines outside them on April 15th. Think that would happen if the IRS adopted the liberals' approach?

That's my point.

Jay,

To put it ANOTHER way...

Two people at work are given a 100% similar job and are told to have it done by August 25th.

If Person A gets it done and turns it in on time, that means it's able to be done in the alotted time.

Therefore, if Person B got a week-extension, then that would devalue the work ethic of Person A (takes the incentive out of getting it done on time if someone else can ignore the deadline)...

Overall moral of the story... The bad work ethic of one employee (which is allowed) will, systematically, bring down the work ethic and morale of the other workers. You are effectively only held to the standards of the laziest person... resulting in lost productivity, lower company morale, less work ethic, no respect for deadlines, worse quality of work, etc)

Going back to my college courses over the past few years, nearly every task we were given was a group project.

Group work promotes collective laziness (the group is held back back by the laziest person, thus forcing more work and increased anger on the part of the useful).

Individual work promotes work ethic and responsibility.

Remember, liberals believe in the group... conservatives believe in the individual. See where this is going?

Group work promotes parasitic behavior. Leech on the few who want to get the work done.

This is what liberals want.

They'd prefer that, in a group of 5 people, 3 of them reap the fruits of the work of the other 2.

The 2 productive members would prefer to be on their own because they value their work and have no reason to HAVE to share it with leechers.

In short... when conservatives work, liberals leech.

I'll make a deal with you Brandy;

You truthfully tell the board what you do to productively contribute to society, and I'll truthfully tell the board what I do (when not clubbing baby seals).

Well, Jimbo, if you really want to know, I'm a towel boy in a bath house in Haight-Ashbury. I bend over...to pick up towels dropped on the floor. Once in a while, for the right pay, I'll stay bent over, just like all Americans should for their new leader and teacher, the great O.

Well.. That's fairly close to what I anticipated Brandy does. I figured he "produces mayo" for the Burger Queen in the Tenderloin District.

The Ukrainian genocide – not enslavement – occurred during Soviet collectivation in the 1930s. The Holocaust I won't bother to detail. Enslavement is nothing compared to...extinction. Yes?

Totally different, that's why its an unfair analogy. You have generations of slavery, then many years of segregation. How can that not create a class system? The continued seggregation of black and white culture is evidence that the class seperation still continues.

Still we probably agree that the government should not get involved in social engineering. That would probably only make the class system more entrenched. I don't agree with affirmative action.

Put it this way. Suppose a football coach expected less of black athletes, and made allowances for missing blocks and tackles, or just generally dogging it. Do you think they would still excel at football?

And why do liberals set the expectations for blacks?

No one is saying that it is ok for black people to deal drugs, or to kill people or to steal, or to not go to college. If liberals started telling you that it was ok to kill, would that lower your standards of morality?

And are you really sure that black people don't want the good things in life just as much as white people? To be happy, to have a high paying job, to have a safe and happy family? You don't think black people hold education in high regard?

How do you know this? From movies? From people who tell you this on the television?

Winners shake it off and put it behind them. Losers nurture their grievance the rest of the game.

Well if that's all it takes, maybe you should mention this to the Serbians and Albanians, because they could really use the advice.

What you're arguing for here, Brandy, is for a bureaucratic study of dozens of learned individuals, funded by tax dollards, to engage in a worldwide study.

Bingo! It's basically impossible to know all the interrelatedness between history and psychology.

*Math is sound.
*Physics, derived from math, is basically solid.
*Chemistry, a further derivation of physics and math, is pretty good but wishy washy in places.
*Biology, derived from math, physics and chemistry, is no where near a pure science. It's all inference, often described in intuitive terms, and still very much full of mystery.
*Psychology, derived from math, physics, chemistry and biology, doesn't even deserve the word science to describe much of it.
*Sociology: a joke.

Yet: 90% of the random people you meet on the internet "know" everything about American sociology.

and they think conservatives are high-and-mighty? Liberals need to get off their pedestals of superiority

yep. everyone seems to think they know everything. On the internet anyway.

And are you really sure that black people don't want the good things in life just as much as white people? To be happy, to have a high paying job, to have a safe and happy family? You don't think black people hold education in high regard?

How do you know this? From movies? From people who tell you this on the television?
Posted by: Brandon at August 18, 2009 12:50 AM

it's a thing we call reality, the mother of all teachers, you ask a lot of questions in this passage, but in no way prove your point, maybe black people WOULD behave like productive citizens (generally not specifically) if the liberals would unchain them (metaphorically).

Americantothecore: You are right on the money concerning those group projects. I would always groan when they were announced. I always had very, very good grades and wanted to maintain that. (I majored in accounting and a high GPA is crucial to getting a job.) Not everyone in the group felt that way, so I had to do yeoman's work while they partied. Bastards.

The collective....to hell with it.

Totally different, that's why its an unfair analogy. You have generations of slavery, then many years of segregation. How can that not create a class system? The continued seggregation of black and white culture is evidence that the class seperation still continues.

Slavery is nothing compared to genocide. Furthermore, African tribes commonly killed their enemies (look at Africa today, e.g., Rwanda), or if they were in a charitable mood, enslaved them. So Africans were better off as slaves in America than running around in Africa where many were...slaves also – if they were lucky.

But my point remains: stop making excuses.

And why do liberals set the expectations for blacks?

Straw man. Liberals don't set expectations, they make excuses for lousy behavior and performance, and thereby keep expectations low. They tolerate the intolerable, instead of kicking the butts of people who need their butts kicked. Again, do you think any football coach would hesitate for a second before kicking the butt of a player who underperformed?

If liberals started telling you that it was ok to kill, would that lower your standards of morality?

You don't get it. It's not liberals telling them it's OK to kill, it's that when they do kill, liberals defend them. Cue, e.g., Mumia here, a darling of the left, or Tookie Williams, or any number of other hairballs. Liberals such as your good self make excuses for them: "It's the history of slavery, it's their culture, it's segregation, it's class system, it's anything but lousy decision-making by individuals who need to have their butts kicked."

And are you really sure that black people don't want the good things in life just as much as white people? To be happy, to have a high paying job, to have a safe and happy family?

Of course most do. I don't doubt that for a minute. My neighbors – a dentist and an executive – are cases in point. They also moved to get away from the people I'm talking about, and are further to right than I am.

The second point is that wanting is one thing, working for it is another. You don't get what you want, or what you wish for, but what you work for. The very fact that some blacks make it proves it can be done, so those who don't make it have no excuse. None. Want a high-paying job? Get your ass into the library.

You don't think black people hold education in high regard?

Again, of course, some – probably most – do. But you can't tell me that it's universal by any stretch of imagination. Listen to rap. QED. Black kids working hard at school are sometimes disdained for "acting white." That's gotta go.

Well if that's all it takes, maybe you should mention this to the Serbians and Albanians, because they could really use the advice.

They could indeed. Everyone needs this advice. Everyone gets bad breaks. Everyone. The distinction between winners and losers is in how they react to them. Whining and bitching and pissing and moaning and feeling sorry for yourself just don't make it.

Yet: 90% of the random people you meet on the internet "know" everything about American sociology.

Sociology is a joke. It's a pathetic attempt to dress up Marxist claptrap as a science. Period.