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More great news. Liberal husks getting filled apace. It's a great day in the valley! We shoulda thought of this long ago.

I agree with Jay, not really much of a loss here; and considering they might be located in CAL, I'm sure we can safely assume they suck from the government teet. So in the end CAL debt just got a little lighter.

What a shame, Im sure they could have all gone on too make great contributions to society.

/sarc

Only twelve?

More please.

can these dead propel still vote for me in 2012???

Travis, we need to convince liberal legislators in California that life isn't worth living without Michael Jackson. If a few dozen liberal legislators killed themselves, the state might return to solvency, normality even.

Kind of hard to feel compassion for the self eliminating moonbat.

I can't say as I blame 'em , I'd probably end up doing the same thing if our roles were reversed . Perish the the thought .

black guy wanting to be a white guy wanting to be a black dancer. oy.

i would say, "Lord, rest his soul", but, he DID turn to izlam in his latter years - now he faces his 72 year old virgin...

GREAT NEWS.

12 less moonbats to waste O2, H20, and food.

Ah! I've been flooded with Michael Jackson news! I can't.... think.... anymore.... .... All your base are belong to us!!!

I get brain overload when this kinda crap happens. There are real problems in the world and we get hung up on this. It's sad. And yet so savvy. How smart of the Obama camp to start offing all these celebs just as he's trying to pass the biggest tax hike in history...

i tell you these moonbat wackos treat these freakin celberties like gods i mean its a wonder their not already setting up images of MICHEAL JACKSON so they can bow to them and offer food to them PATHETIC PAGAN MOONBAT FOOLS

You have heard, of course, that Sarah Palin resigned because her role in the murder of Michael Jackson was about to be exposed.

Concerning MJ's death, my worry is reincarnation.

V the K.......WTF!! That was a joke, right?

it will soon be exposed....Palin ordered Dick Cheney to waterboard MJ because MJ was about to announce that after getting instructions from Letterman, MJ had sex with Willow.
If only Palin had waited a day, MJ was about to commit suicide after realizing that Willow was female.

Tandem felix.
Ignore him, them.

I heard that instead of burying him, they're going to melt Jacko's body (since it was 80% plastic) down to make Legos so that kids can still play with him.

I know, that was bad, but I'd thought I'd share.

Bye-bye pederast. SO GLAD you're gone!

No No Lib Smasher!!! They should turn him into pacifiers.

He would like that....he always like little kids sucking on him.

Let the dead bury the dead. ie...media

One less piece of pedrophile garbage to deal with.Come the revolution media monkeys are first.Chr*st five days of celebration of this POS certainly shows the collective IQ of North America.

I think the real thing to remember about Jackson is how a man born with tremendous talent can be driven to ruin by the scars of a moonbat parent. Joe Jackson, by any measure, is a piece of shit. I particularly liked that last photo I saw of him wearing a large gold necklace with a continent of Africa emblem on it like the black power punks do.

In any case, for all his faults, Jackson was a tremendous talent who never could shake the demons visited unto him by his father. There comes a time when you have to realize that some things are simply a product of environment. It doesn't make it right, but I didn't hold my friend or my friend's dog responsible for biting me viciously without warning... I blame the scumbags who abused that dog before my friend rescued it. The dog had to be put down, and Jackson's pedophilia was undoubtedly a grown man's attempt at being closer than a grown man should be because of his shattered childhood brought on by a militant moonbat of a father.

Again, I'm not glued to the TV watching the funeral or any of the other sickening coverage, but Jackson was most certainly a tormented soul and I pray he is at peace. It doesn't make his actions in life right, but like that abused dog, I can't lay all the blame on him.

I simply can't believe the US Press and their extreme over occupation with a great musician who turned into a has-been pedophile and killed himself with drugs.

Two sentences mentioning his death should have been enough. Of course I don't understand people's preoccupation with the death of celebrities stuck on themselves while really great people die everyday.

To slightly alter a previous message,
I think you guys have stepped off the deep end of human decency. Generally speaking, morning the dead isn't necessarily about the dead but rather about those still living or to mourn with them to bring closure. MJ isn't even in the ground yet and here we have self righteous extremes going off the morbid deep end during the wake. Real class guys?

Personally, my feelings towards MJ are about the same as yours but there's a certain civility and respect that's expected of people of any moral standard when it comes to crises of our fellow men.

Years ago, I enjoyed listening to Elton John's music but after his admission of being gay, I now turn the station when I hear him. Be that right or wrong, it's my option. However, should EJ, MJ, or my worst enemy be carried off in front of me to their place of rest, I'll remove my hat and bow my head as they pass. This won't be in respect for them but rather for their loved ones who had nothing to do with their deeds. And if they were involved in those deeds, Lord help me to have the decency to at least wait until tomorrow to air those issue

Re: Picture

You owe me a new monitor ...

I feel bad for MJ's family as well. My heart goes out to his brothers and sisters. It appears that his sister Janet is probably the best person to take care of those kids. His Mom seems like a decent human being but I think she's too old to raise kids that young.

Andy, I think the point of this article is that people committed suicide over MJ. That in itself is quite odd. However MJ had the money to hire the best therapists and psychologists in the world that would have allowed him some closure and healing and he chose not to do that. I think he was possibly molested by his dad when he was little and those demons have haunted him his entire life.

I liked his music a lot. I grew up on his music. I think the autopsy will probably reveal an overdose of prescription drugs. Someone who takes that amount of drugs is in serious internal pain.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not condoning pedophilia if he indeed was guilty, I'm just saying that this article (I don't think) was meant to completely bash him but to report the nuttiness of those who committed suicide because of his death.

When he was akid he did a realy stupid love song to a rat in a dumb movie BEN a sequil to WILLARD a real syrupy song and remember the JACKSON 5 cartoon he has two mice named RAY and CHARLES and a pink snake named ROSEY

The sad thing is that bloggers who might be mistaken for reasonable people feel constrained to comment on every thing Jackson, Sullivan, and the rest leae in little piles all over the place..

The good news: I'm pruning the number of blogs I feel are "must read".

Refreshing, actually.

This is the first Jackson piece I've seen today.

I feel blind-sided.

Years ago, I enjoyed listening to Elton John's music but after his admission of being gay, I now turn the station when I hear him.

Because he is gay? I'm not gay but I still enjoy listening to his old '70s stuff.

Because he's gay? I find that to be a very bizarre thing to say. Some of my best friends are gay. And I'm as conservative as you get.

Why would you turn the station in order to not listen to songs played by a gay man, Andy?

Maybe now that he knows he's gay he hears the old songs in a different light.

Don't let your son go down on me

Hold me closer Tony Danza

ect..

Parley - Elton John has actually come out against gay marriage, and said gays should have civil unions.. There was a thread about it on moonbattery a few months back.

Was Marvin Gaye gay? If not he should have been ... with a name like that.

Happy Planet Index 2.0 is out!

http://timworstall.com/2009/07/05/the-happy-planet-index-20/

China #20? and the US isnt even on the list? Just ask the "weegers" or whoever they are getting sliced up and skulls cracked in western China. What? Iran is not on the list? Iran offers superior beating and execution methods. Vietnam? Laos? Cuba????

1. Costa Rica
2. Dominican Republic
3. Jamaica
4. Guatemala
5. Vietnam
6. Colombia
7. Cuba
8. El Salvador
9. Brazil
10. Honduras
11. Nicaragua
12. Egypt
13. Saudi Arabia
14. Philippines
15. Argentina
16. Indonesia
17. Bhutan
18. Panama
19. Laos
20. China

Al Bore is at it again.

http://www.weaselzippers.net/blog/2009/07/goracle-my-struggle-against-global-warming-as-significant-as-the-battle-against-nazi-germany.html

"Al Gore today compared the battle against climate change with the struggle against the Nazis.

The former US Vice President said the world lacked the political will to act and invoked the spirit of Winston Churchill by encouraging leaders to unite their nations to fight climate change.

Speaking in Oxford at the Smith School World Forum on Enterprise and the Environment, sponsored by The Times, Mr Gore said: “Winston Churchill aroused this nation in heroic fashion to save civilisation in World War II.”

He added: “We have everything we need except political will but political will is a renewable resource.”

Mr Gore admitted that it was difficult to persuade the public that the threat from climate change was as urgent as the threat from Nazi Germany.

“The level of awareness and concern among populations has not crossed the threshold where political leaders feel that they must change. "

Well, Andy surprised me with his comment about Elton John. That was my growing-up music, I would never change the channel.
I like the band Tool, they're pretty gay. I skip over "track one" because it's disgusting, but I still like them. Jeez, so many musicians are gay, you could really miss out on some good music if you kept changing the channel.

Keven, I turn the station because I find it repulsive. Yes, many of us have family, friends, co-workers, etc that necessitates a tolerance and/or acceptance. As mentioned, that's my option to turn the station, be it right or wrong.

okay - i shouldn't have been so mean before - my tribute to m.j.:

DIE ALREADY!

one of van's favored moonbats has introduced a resolution on behalf of m.j.

Point of curiosity. Did you know a majority of pedophiles arrested by the police are also hard core Star Trek fans?

Let's consider the world of Star Trek for a moment; no money, no Christianity, no private corporations, the government just hands out things, no one has to work, silly outfits, free-flowing sexual attitudes ... it's the leftist version of utopia.

Just sayin'....

Here is one for you.

On June 25th 2009, the lovely Farrah Fawcett passed away. Upon her arrival in heaven, they asked if there was anything she would like to wish for. Without a moment's pause Ms. Fawcett replied, "I'd like for all the children of the world to be safe."

It was at that moment, back on earth, that Michael Jackson dropped dead.

Andy, you never cease to amaze. I don't have a problem with performers, or indeed anyone else, being homosexual. I find it distasteful, but their business. My problem kicks in when a) they talk about it incessantly, and/or b) they want others - including me - to approve of it and accept it as normal. If they just went off and did it in private - and, of course, left kids alone - I couldn't care less.

Jay, for present and future references, I don't care if I amaze you or not. That's an issue that you and only you can contend with.

I assume from you post, you favor "don't ask, don't tell"? How sad.

Andy, do I talk about my sexual exploits? No. Neither does anyone else here, most if not all of whom are normal.

I'm asking the fags to reciprocate. Nothing more, nothing less.

Well now, this is interesting:

I assume from you[r] post, you favor "don't ask, don't tell"? How sad.

Posted by: andy42302 at July 8, 2009 5:45 PM

Andy finds Elton John to be so repulsive [his word] he can't listen to Elton John on the radio because Elton John is gay and thus repulsive, so Andy has to turn the radio station so as not to listen to him because he is gay which to him is repulsive; yet he seems to favor gays in the military. At least that's what I gather from his reference to "don't ask, don't tell" and his speculation that Jay favors the policy which Andy finds "sad" - inferring that he, Andy, does not favor such policy. I find this to be very bizarre.

The only explanation I can imagine is that Andy favors gays in the military so as to think of himself a good person, in liberal lights. A good person is someone that favors the right policy. But those gays, why, they are repulsive.

What then is so "repulsive" about gays, Andy? Gay qua gay?

Or, perhaps I didn't understand and Andy is against "don't ask, don't tell" because Andy wants all the gays to be asked and to tell and to then be booted out of the military because they are "repulsive" and he thinks anyone that would just leave it at "don't ask, don't tell" is "sad."

That must be it.

The only thing bizarre Kevin, is your decision to interpret something out of nothing.

Jay stated that he wouldn't care "If they just went off and did it in private". In other words, don't ask and don't tell and all's cool.

andy that's priceless. You assign a stance to Jay concerning a military policy because he said he'd prefer not to know about the sexual acts individuals, any individuals, engage in privately, but that's not interpreting "something out of nothing."

But when Kevin tries to reconcile your apparent criticism of that same military policy with your earlier comment about Elton John being repulsive becaue he is gay, that is interpreting "something out of nothing."

Why don't you take a deep breath and tell us how you manage to find Elton John repulsive because he is a homosexual yet still maintain this holier-than-thou mentality concerning "Don't Ask Don't Tell?"

Posted by: andy42302 at July 9, 2009 5:50 AM

Troll, it figures you'd eventually expose yourself as just another Leftwing Archie Bunker bigot.

You come here to this website, troll, and you become fair game.

A leftwing Archie Bunker bigot? That's rich. Because I disapprove of homosexuality, which I view as unnatural, ungodly, immoral, and nonproductive, I'm now an all around bigot?
I had no idea that my opinion of homosexuality would strike such a nerve to you guys.
Who's music I decide to listen to or not listen to is my option. It's as if some of you are going through some reverse diversity syndrome.

Why don't you take a deep breath and tell us how you manage to find Elton John repulsive because he is a homosexual yet still maintain this holier-than-thou mentality concerning "Don't Ask Don't Tell?"

Posted by: andy42302 at July 9, 2009 12:23 PM

That's nice, Miss Mills.

Cowlove, perhaps you can explain your rhetoric on my assumed "holier-than-thou mentality" towards "don't ask don't tell".

Either the military allows gays or they don't. If they do, so be it. If they don't, why hide behind Clinton's "don't ask, don't tell" nonsense. In other words, I don't buy into Jay's concept that "doing it in private" means I should except it as normal or okay.. Granted, I may have to be tolerant of gay's rights. That doesn't mean I can't use my discretion on changing the radio dial in the comfort of my own home.

Keven, what would you suggest? Maybe listen to a few gay artist on occasion or maybe dine at a gay bar and grill twice a year in order to be a cool rightwing conservative like you? How do I rid myself of this leftwing Archie bunker mentality that you've labeled me with? Just wondering since you seem to be so knowledgeable.

Do whatever you think right, troll.

Brilliant throw-a-rock-and-run response Kevin.

Cowlove, perhaps you can explain your rhetoric on my assumed "holier-than-thou mentality" towards "don't ask don't tell".

Well, when you pull it out of your ass that Jay supports the policy (you know, that whole "interpreting something out of nothing" that you pretend to loathe) because he said he'd prefer that individuals leave their sexual exploits in private, and then comment on his supposed stance as being, "sad," I think it logically follows that you're purporting to take a stance against "don't ask don't tell." I'll reiterate my question, since it must still be unclear: How do you reconcile your apparent stance against the policy of "don't ask don't tell" with your personal opinion that gays are repulsive?

To be clear, the inherent rights or wrongs involved with "don't ask don't tell" don't concern me here. I'm more interested in the obvious contradictions in your comments here.

"How do you reconcile your apparent stance against the policy of "don't ask don't tell" with your personal opinion that gays are repulsive?

I'm not following how you deduce that finding gays repulsive somehow contradicts a stance against "don't ask don't tell". If there's a problem with homosexuality in the military, blindly looking the other way doesn't resolve the problem.

Andy just personalize your own comments! You don't listen to Elton John anymore because, to you, he's a repulsive homosexual. How much more of a conflict would you have were you to find out you were fighting in Iraq alongside another repulsive homosexual?! You can't "turn the station," andy.

It seems in both cases, Elton John and a gay brother-in-arms, you would have been better off not knowing anything at all about what tickles their fancy in the bedroom, no?

Posted by: andy42302 at July 9, 2009 2:33 PM

That's nice, troll.

cowlove, I'm unsure as to what part of English you're struggling with but I've made this as clear as I know how to. I've stated on this thread "Yes, many of us have family, friends, co-workers, etc that necessitates a tolerance and/or acceptance" and I've said "Granted, I may have to be tolerant of gay's rights". I'm not on a mission to eradicate gays from the work place, military, or anywhere else. It's just that I reserve the right to switch the station if the artist's views, lifestyle, or even political beliefs conflict with mine. We've seen this before as The Dixie Chicks and Bruce Springsteen come to mind.
You're trying to make me out to be someone unable to deal with working or fighting in war with someone gay simply because I choose not to support gay artist.
To maybe digress a bit, instead of you making something out of nothing, you're making more out of this than what it is.

GOOD JOB ANDY!!!!

I see you got off your lazy leftist liberal ass and updated your blog site. Still with Wellstoned I see, can't get off Palin or are you trying to divert attention away from your Messiahs dwindling poll numbers or are you to stupid to talk about anything else with relevance?

I didn't realize you were a homophobe. You are so hateful. What will your gay Nazi friends say about this?

RAH RAH SIS BOOM BAH!!!!!

I MOCK YOU!!

Andy I was very clear when I addressed what I thought was a simple question to you twice. The response I get from you this time is bizarre rambling where you address things I never even asked you about.

You said you find Elton John to be repulsive because he's gay. Please understand I'm not taking you to task or suggesting you hate queers or want them eradicated or any of the other nonsense you mentioned. Then you seemed to speak down to Jay when you cast him as someone who favors "Don't Ask Don't Tell."

I just wanted to know how you, personally, within your own intellectual capacity, reconcile those two contradictory stances. And they are contradictory, clearly. You simply cannot criticize "Don't Ask Don't Tell" when you laid the basis for its reasoning in your anecdote about Elton John.

I will concede that this is becoming more than a little silly at this point, however. If you don't want to explain your reasoning, fine. Maybe don't offer your opinions up so freely if you don't want see them questioned?

It's my understanding that gays have never been allowed in the military. Still aren't. Homosexual advances have never been tolerated. Still aren't. In reality, the only thing DADT did was to eliminate the question of sexual orientation during the enlisting. In short, ignore the problem and there is none. As I've mentioned earlier, if gays are allowed, so be it. If not, why the disguise? So when Jay mentioned that he was fine with gays as long as it was hidden, it brought to mind DADT. Perhaps a bad association but I was fishing for input. Hopefully that brings some clarity to your question.
What I don't understand is how Kevin came up with the left wing Archie Bunker bigot analogy.

Perfect, thanks.

Dave mocks me. I'm hurt.

Whoops...

Therein lies what turns out to be a broader point. In your Elton John story, you outlined a reaction that I would wager many, many people share upon discovering undesired knowledge about others' sexual antics. I would even place a bet that many, many, many men in the military would share your same reaction. It doesn't matter, really, if that's right or wrong, because it would still be the reality. Don't Ask Don't Tell is a crude (in my opinion) attempt to balance a moral question and the reality of military service. To put it even more crudely, dudes in combat have enough to worry about, check your queer at the door.

LOL!! Just playing Andy. Some Monty Python.

Don't forget the I fart in your general direction to.

Why are you and Casper so hung up on Palin? You guys can't seem to shake her. She has you fixated!

If you haven't noticed Dave, Palin is big news. She's the talk of the town so to speak. Her July 4th bombshell almost drowned out MJ for a bit. And it just keeps getting louder. It's not that I'm fixated, she's just dominating the head lines.

No Andy, your fixation as well as Casper's started before she stepped down. I still don't understand all the bashing by you guys and the shit head media. Tell me, what started all that bashing? What did she do to triggered it? What is your take? Don't be shy.

2 points Dave
1) If you still don't understand, I cant see that I could or would get through to you.

2) Most importantly, I can't see that it's OK to grossly threadjack this forum. I mean, things run off topic enough as it is.

Which means that you can't answer the question!
Thread jack....what the fuck are you talking about, Andy? You and cowlove are talking about Gays. Is that on topic? Stop being a fucking hypocrite. I asked you a simple question and your chicken shit liberal ass can't answer it. You stupid fuck heads are bashing Palin for what? This started since the announcement that she was entering the race as a vice presidential candidate. Once again, Andy, you are displaying that you are a chicken shit liberal.

2 Points Andy:

1--When stupid liberals are confronted with a simple cut and dry question you can't give an answer.

2--When you CAN"T answer a simple question you come up with HIGH SCHOOL FRESHMEN excuse why you can't answer.

You have no fucking clue as to what you are talking about and you are not as smart and intellectual as you think.

No offense Cowlove. Andy stop being a pussy.

SMACK DOWN!!!!!!!

Go lick your wounds Candy Andy....You have just been thrashed.

You are a fraud.

I'll be back tomorrow and will be looking for a straight answer on why you bash Palin.

Dave, this thread is about to roll of the page and you want to engage in something not even remotely on topic.
I'm not here for your amusement at your whim and I owe you nothing. I'm not obligated to respond on demand to whatever you might want to complain about today. Considering how previous discussions with you have been less than constructive, I see no need to be an accomplice to your gibberish.