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this is just a foot-in-the-door for suppression of speech

For how long will I be punished for the sins of someone else's father? Why is the concept of equality before the law so foreign to these people? The popular image of Justice with a blindfold over her eyes should be revised so that she is instead holding a kaleidoscope with both hands. The scales she is normally depicted to be holding can be shown lying, discarded, on the floor.

The two faced justice of ERIC(STINKFACE)HOLDER he is not worthy of holding a job as CHEIF JUSTICE it was irresponsible of BARACK9CARPFACE)OBAMA to nominate him and stupid of the demacrats to confirm him

Thought crime, pure and simple.

Segregation here we come.

Stay AWAY from the "groups who have been targeted for violence as a result of the color of their skin, their sexual orientation". i.e. blacks and homosexuals.

If you are a white person you will soon be one accusition of "hate" away from going to jail.

To hell with all of 'em. As far as I'm concerned they all have the plague.

oops, I meant STRAIGHT white person and "accusation".

This will allow for interpretation that self-defence during an assault and/or robbery, even in the home, can, and will, result in a "hate crimes" charge against the victim. "Reparations" by other means.

Mau-mau. Coming soon.

Josey at July 3, 2009 10:17 AM- "Segregation here we come. Stay AWAY from the "groups who have been targeted for violence as a result of the color of their skin, their sexual orientation". i.e. blacks and homosexuals."

Trouble is, they will be coming to you.

Josey- "If you are a white person you will soon be one accusition of "hate" away from going to jail."

It's going to be open season.

I'm afraid you're correct, chairman.

in 20 years being white, will in itself, constitute a hate-crime.

The underlying premise is that society is divided into different groups, classes. This legislation would codify that premise into law. The premise then, taken to its logical conclusion, will be to destroy the democratic ideal of equality before the law and to have a system much like that in which there are laws for the common folk and laws which protect the aristocracy. This is exactly the kind of thing that the Enlightenment and revolution against royalty and aristocracy revolted against and threw off.

I guess all of the liberal trolls aren't commenting because they're too busy stealing flags to burn on Independence Day.

I better not catch you in my yard, Brandeenn, Ghost of Wellstone, etc.

Historic basis? No, Christians have never been persecuted. Fed to lions, but not persecuted.

Barry's giving him that trademark evil stare in the picture ... must have been pissed at Holder's poor performance in front of Republican Senators:

Under questioning from Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla., Holder admitted that "hate" was involved in a recent case in which a Muslim man attacked and killed a U.S. soldier. Still, soldiers are not among the protected classes.

"There's a certain element of hate in that, I suppose," Holder admitted, leading Coburn to conclude, "What we're willing to do is elevate those crimes (verbal or physical attacks on homosexuals) over this very intended hate crime (a murder.)"

"There are lots of other groups, decent people who might need additional protection if the federal government had all the money in the world and the time to investigate," Sessions added.

Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, was specific, asking what crimes have developed that have not been addressed adequately by current laws and prosecutions.

Holder avoided a direct answer, saying, "Well, I have some in my prepared remarks."

Coburn tried again, "Do we have good stats telling us we're not (prosecuting) these crimes?"

"Do we have stats that states are failing? Which states are regularly or systematically failing to prosecute?"

"I don't think we can say there is a trend among the states or local jurisdictions for failing to go after these kinds of crimes," Holder admitted.

To other questions, Holder responded, "I don't know."

Sessions said, "I'll ask you again. Cite me some cases of significance that have not been properly prosecuted in the last five years."

Again, Holder deflected the question.

According Rick Scarborough of Vision America, voters should rise up en masse and contact their senators to oppose the plan.

Stephen Di Benedetto writing at Infozine, reported on a request from the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights that the senators reject the plan.

"I see little evidence that there is a trend among state law enforcement officials to ignore violent crimes motivated by prejudice," Hatch told Holder.

It was only in Holder's written statement where he cited cases where state's allegedly failed to prosecute cases to his satisfaction.

Coburn also noted the 45 states that have hate crime legislation. Only Arkansas, Georgia, South Carolina, Wyoming and Indiana do not. He asked of those five states are failing to prosecute hate crimes.

Holder said he did not have the information.

Holder is an idiot, and is holding the AG job purely and simply as another black empty suit.

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Good God!!! I just remember the Memphis Gay and Lesbian Community center is three blocks from my house so when I pass buy I guess I better not stare or look at them funny.

I thought for Independence Day I would do some thing patriotic such as setting The FAG FLAG on fire. I know just where to get one.

Hey shit head liberal head trolls!!!!!!! Would like like to join in on the patriotic festivities?
It would be OK with you guys, right? I mean you have no problem with burning our great nations flag, right?

Great nation= USA in case you libs are to stupid or to stoned to figure it out.

IS OBAMA RUNNING THE SHIP A LITTLE TOO TIGHTLY?

I hope that you got the chance to see the exchange yesterday at White House press briefing. Robert Gibbs starts to get really flustered when a CBS reporter continues to hound him over the fact that Obama town hall events are completely staged. There are no "random" questions from the audience. Everything is pre-selected, every question is screened, etc. So this reporter calls him out on it, and then Helen Thomas gets involved. She says that she has never seen this level of control in the White House before. And if anyone should know, Helen Thomas would.

Just ignore the trolls - they are NOT here to debate, they are here to infuriate! Don't try to talk sense to them, they have NONE. Screw 'em!

Some victims are more important that others /libs

If you want a view of the Hopey Change future, picture a boot standing on a human face. Except if you are white/straight etc, then you get two boots on the face. That's fair right?

When the law is applied unequaly, there is no justice.

Liberals support "hate crimes laws" because it makes them FEEL GOOD about themselves and it "proves" that they are not RAAAACIST!. Soon, they will be lining up, saying "Look! I'm not racist! I willingly kiss Obama's ass!".

Fantasy? Maybe, but was there any American twenty years ago who would believe that we would be living on the Bizzarro World we are today?

"Historic basis? No, Christians have never been persecuted. Fed to lions, but not persecuted.
Posted by: Joe at July 3, 2009 12:28 PM

I rest my case. Every word I ever typed on these pages about liberals being dumasses is true.

Comrade Obambi looks like is under some sort of hypnotic trance. It looks like Kim Jong ladies' ugly sunglasses, is doing some missle saber rattling at Hawaii. Watch out, Jimbo!

We need to take a page from our enemies list and start filing lawsuit after lawsuit to block these insane proposals and laws. W.E.B. DuBois was right about race-hustling blacks.

Kind of like how a Jewish writer who spoke out against the NAZI party in 1930s Germany could have everything confiscated by the state been sent off to a concentration camp, but a NAZI who vandalized a Jewish business would not be charged with anything?

They aren't race-hustling blacks; they're race-hustling Mulattoes. I am Caucasian and have Caucasian slave ancestors, as many others do, so the whole premise of poor Negro slave descendants is extortion. For reparation, Holder should take money out of his 'white' pocket and put it in his 'black' one.

Nation of cowards eh? Bring that race hustling horse shit out here to the rockies and see where it gets you. I work with blacks, Asians, Mexicans,
South Americans, geniuses, dumbasses, and it doesn't matter. They are all just people to me. Maybe they all hate my guts, I don't know and I don't care. Racism is worn out. It's a non issue in most of America, because contrary to the shit this clown and his ilk spew, we aren't racists. It doesn't enter the conversation or the events of the day until some puke like this, or the two "reverends" start crying about it. STFU and live your lives like humans you assholes.

I think the secret will be to be everything. No matter what it is, say that's what you are. One can claim to be black, hispanic, American Indian, homosexual, transexual, liberal, and handicapped. One can claim to be Jewish, Muslim, buddist, or a shintoist, underemployed, unemployed, and in need. One can claim any damn thing--any if everybody said at all times they were every damn thing, then it is soon up to everybody to prove what they are whether they are or not. I think we can then start making the case that the person who acted against us did so thinking we were what we claimed, even though we really weren't, so that they have done a crime. We can scream that it is even a crime for them to check if we are what we claim to be. That way soon everything is a crime. And if we reduce the whole thing to absolute absurdity maybe it will die.

"We're talking about crimes that have a historic basis"

Translation: "No protection for groups we intend to persecute."

"We're talking about crimes that have a historic basis"

Since Obama chose Stalinists as mentors, it would be well to note Lenin and Stalin's program to exterminate the kulaks (i.e., any peasants who were a bit more industrious and prosperous than their neighbors.)

So Grayjohn ya think racism is worn out, huh?

Why don't you bring your asshole self down south and preach your bullshit here. Ever heard of the Mayor of Memphis? He's black and just loves to play the race card against his white constituents all the time and on T.V.

Come back to reality and tell the black folk around here what you are talking about, they would beat your ass you HONKEY! LOL! Go live your life and STFU!

Does anybody REALLY want to get a race war going? I mean a real one with maybe 2000 to 3000 dead/day? With square miles of cities burned to the ground? With bridges blown, highways made death zones, and large portions of the country covered by free kill zones where anything moving is likely going to die? Where the National guard takes control of certain parts of the country and then turns and sets up warlord fiefdoms?

Keep it up! It is surprising how soon we can get there if we start this crap. It will be real easy to get it going. ONLY GOD WILL BE ABLE TO STOP IT!

Tell that to the leadership of this country snowsnake.

I'm with you.

There are people who would greatly profit from a race war. That is why they are pushing Christian white men up against the wall to get us to push back. They(hardcore leftwingers) HATE our people and want to wipe us off the earth.

I will probably be mocked for saying this but their is just no other explanation for the behavior and words of Kwame Kirkpatrick, Holder, Obama, Napolitano, Clinton, etc...If we won't submit, they want us DEAD

Nobody will profit from this except maybe some carrion eaters out in the kill zones. If whites were 10% of the population, whites would be exterminated. When a race war starts and there is an inbalance of 9 to 1, and assuming almost equal balance in rate and efficiency of kill, then the 10 percent will be exterminated. After a lot of killing, random torture, rape, and murder, there can not be any quarter given. The 10% side must be removed from the genetic record. I imagine at the end, there will be genetic tests to make sure that not even a little taint of the blood survives. Always before, outside powers would stop it--not this time. Nobody is going to come into the USA and try to stop anything.

As I asked before, does anybody really want to start this crap?

Jeeeez! You guys make me almost feel like I'm glad I'm old enough to be dead soon.

Dave if all that is true why would anyone white want to live there? Come out here where no one gives a shit what color you are. And remember, in the eyes of Obama we are all equally worthless.

cost of living to high out there greyjohn and this is my home town.

You are living in fantasyland....believe me black folk are more racist now then ever before.

I'm not buying what you say at all.