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Quite telling that the Obamacrats do not want this issue in a court of any kind. But hey troops here's your way out of a deployment.

This was probably done because the Kenyan who is currently residing at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. doesn't want this story to get legs. Which is exactly what would happen if The Major were court martialed. WHO'S YOUR DADDY, OBAMA???? SHOW US THE DAMN BIRTH CERTIFICATE AND SETTLE THIS THING!

The only thing I am wondering about this is in regards to him being a full time state employee for his unit. If and I stress if that is the case I can understand the firing, but if that isnt then maybe he willhave even more of a case on his hands.

No court martial?

That means no subpoena of BO's certificate of live birth.

See how that works kids?

And I thought BO was all about creating jobs, not putting people out of jobs?

Another lie and broken campaign promise.

Interesting how the press couldn't be less interested in this story... don't you think?

I wonder if Simtech Inc, CEo Larry Grice might be interested in hearing from americans how we feel about the treatment of one of our citizens who has served this country defending us?

Let him know what you think:

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/larry-grice/7/858/a35

Or contact them directly:

http://www.simtech-inc.com/contact_us.php

I'll post the response I get from them, if any.

The major raises consciencious objector issues in court so the military immediately changes his orders, what's that all about? The DOD then pressures his employer to fire him? Every citizen has a constitutional right to bring a grievence to the court military or civilian, the military also has the right to use the military or civilian courts to answer those complaints. He did not desert! These are rights the left wants to extend to detainees in Gitmo for Pete's sake but a soldier doesn't have them?? It is frightening the power the government is using against ordinary citizens whether it be bonus recipients, buisnessmen, Joe the Plummer or this soldier. I have never seen such attacks against ordinary citizens by the govenment in my lifetime. The left howled when the NSA was monitering overseas calls from known terrorist locations overseas to here in the US with court approval but have no problem if ordinary Americans have their civil rights abridged for just questioning POTUS? All he wanted was to see proof of Obama's birth in the US!!!! We should al be very very frightened.

I believed that this was a non-issue until now but the lenghts this administration is going to in order to suppress any questions being asked has changed all that.

I wonder if they'll be able to understand the sound of a Mossberg 590-A1 being cocked?

Hope everyone has plenty of ammo stored up.

You got a 590? Me too, with a pistol grip & foldup tailstock. And yeah, plenny ammo.

Thought criminals will be punished.

Dont let BO make an example of you, comrades!

Lock-step unity is doubleplsugood!

Lather, rinse and repeat!

DEVO was right...

Boy, I never thought there was anything to the whole birth certificate issue.

Now I'm really wondering...

Just as bad as when KING WILLIAM THE FINK fired MICHEAL NEW becuase he refused to wear the UN blue and now the same for KING OBAMA THE ROTTEN

One think it would be very easy to debunk this birth certificate stuff . . . by producing a birth certificate.

I'm beginning to wonder about this myself.

FINAL REPORT ON OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE FORGERY CHANGE YOU CAN BELIEVE IN

@Mr Evil

Yep 590 with a Knoxx RS stock, picatinny rail, sightmark laser dual shot reflex sight and about a 1000 rounds of Federal LE Tactical Magnum in 1" HP slug and about 1000 rounds of Royal R10 Buck special (#4)

I also have a "few" other nice pieces... mostly in .45 cal and 30-06, and some .223 things, a 20 gauge for bird hunting, .22 for plinking, Oh did I mention the HK thingie in the closet?

The only person I envy is Ted Nugent :)

I think Mr. Cook has a strong case against this company
(www.simtech-inc.com)

Any legal opinions here?

If it went to court, he might have standing to supoena the 'birth certificate'.

I believe that absence of standing is why the supreme court passed on hearing arguments on the missing 'BC'.

@Fiberal

Brief? Don't have time to research this one. If it's worthy I might go "pro bono publico"

Now that he's suffered a loss?

FreeWillie,

Don't have one; not an attorney.

Cook's attorney has an argument to overcome the supposed lack of standing, and it is one that is well-recognized in jurisprudence - "capable of repitition yet evading review." Read the pleading at:

http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/blog1/:

Article III, Section 2 of the Constitution limits federal court jurisdiction to “cases” and “controversies.” This case or controversy requirement exists through all stages of federal judicial proceedings. Spencer v. Kemna, 523 U.S. 1, 7, 118 S.Ct. 978, 140 L.Ed.2d 43 (1998). A number of doctrines have developed, however, to permit courts to review a case in which it is no longer possible to remedy the particular grievance giving rise to the litigation.

One is the exception to the mootness doctrine for violations “capable of repetition, yet evading review.” See, e.g., Gerstein v. Pugh, 420 U.S. 103, 110 n. 11, 95 S.Ct. 854, 43 L.Ed.2d 54 (1975). This is such a case. It is most unlikely that any given individual could have his constitutional claim decided on appeal after he is ordered to duty but before his actual deployment. In Gerstein the Supreme Court held the exception to the mootness doctrine for violations “capable of repetition, yet evading review” applied because the constitutional violation was likely to be repeated but would not last long enough to be reviewed before becoming moot. Id.

An order to a reserve officer to be deployed in active duty is ordinarily even more temporary than the pretrial detention at issue in Gerstein. This case evades review for essentially the same reason. The Plaintiffs could not have brought the challenges to this court before the harm of issuance of illegal orders without proper chain of command could be addressed or resolved judicial.

This situation giving rise to this challenge also is capable of repetition. Plaintiffs can only assume that issuance of orders to mobilize will be recurring on the part of these defendants. See O’Shea v. Littleton, 414 U.S. 488, 496, 94 S.Ct. 669, 38 L.Ed.2d 674 (1974). This case is therefore not readily distinguishable from an abortion case, the classic case capable of repetition yet evading review, because we can assume a woman can become pregnant again. See generally Roe v. Wade, 410 U.S. 113, 125, 93 S.Ct. 705, 35 L.Ed.2d 147 (1973). Some cynics might say that Barack Hussein Obama’s refusal to document his personal and medical history once challenged has amounted to an abortion of the legitimacy of the American Presidency, and of the confidence of the people, especially the men and women of the United States Armed Forces, who serve directly under his de facto Command and long for a show of clear and convincing de jure validation of his commitment to the Constitution and Rule of Law as applied to all citizens.

This makes no material difference, however, because a future mobilization order assuredly will surely be issued against some officers of the United States Army, and the shackling policy would similarly escape review. Furthermore, it appears to be a policy of the Federal Government to avoid answering questions about de facto President Barack Hussein Obama’s constitutional qualifications to occupy the White House and serve as commander-in-chief. Thus, this case is capable of repetition when because defendants are challenging an ongoing government policy.

And this is very interesting as well:

(11) This doubt is further reinforced by the fact that the Hawaiian statute 338 allows foreign born children of Hawaiian residents to obtain Hawaiian birth certificates, that those birth certificates can be obtained based on a statement of one relative only without any corroborating evidence from the hospital; that “late birth certificates” (i.e. non-contemporaneously, post-facto, in two words “potentially fabricated”) can lawfully, under this statute, be obtained at any time later in life.

(12) That is of paramount concern, as Barack Hussein Obama’s original birth certificate was never provided by the state of Hawaii, but only a statement that there is an original “long birth certificate” document on file. The statement repeatedly provided by Hawaiian officials is quite simply incomplete, evasive, and without explanation of critical details: namely, whether it is a foreign birth certification or one obtained based on a statement of one relative only, or a late certification or amended one, obtained upon adoption by his stepfather. See Exhibit C: the Certification of Live Birth posted by Mr. Obama on the Internet, cannot be treated as genuine without examining the original on file with the Health department of the State of Hawaii.

(13) In addition or in the alternative, Plaintiff submits that, absent clearly established and indisputable proof of constitutional right to serve as commander-in-chief, the army becomes merely a corps of chattel slaves under the illegitimate control of a private citizen, in violation of the Thirteenth Amendment and that this Plaintiff is entitled to constitutionally complete and sufficient proof of his commander-in-chief’s eligibility and entitlement to serve in this capacity under Article I, §§1-2 prior to obeying orders from a man against whom mountains of evidence now exist (Exhibits E and F, and additional evidence which can be provided at the Preliminary Injunction hearing or in conjunction with the Complaint to be filed in this case) to show that Barack Hussein Obama obtained the office of President without legal qualifications, and further that he did so by and through a continuous pattern and program of fraud and deceit.

***

Got to love this:

(31) All that is asked of the President is that he humbly acknowledge and produce his true and complete “original” birth certificate. So long as this form proves the Barack Hussein Obama’s status as a “natural born” citizen, the President and the Presidency will not only have suffered no harm, but will have reaffirmed the faith of the people in the rule of law as dominating all men, including the President of the United States.

My law firm is Wesson, Smith, & Colt. Available for consultation 24/7.

Hey Sylvia...say an asteroid prayer for me too.

Mr. Larry Grice,
You should not have fired Mr. Cook. Nothing like letting the government run every company...just like he is yours. Our so called president is not a President, you'll see. He is 100% a citizen. BUT...He is a citizen "not" of these United States. He should be held for treason. I hope your company is taken to court and that Obama one day very soon is brought to justice.

Gee, there's an easy solution to the Obama birth certificate question:

bury him/them in ethics violation lawsuits AND oft-repeated FOIA requests. Worked against Palin.

Does anyone doubt the status of Obama's mother as a citizen of the United States? If not, then Obama's status as a "natural born citizen" is also not in question. Any child of a citizen of the U.S. is a natural born citizen, no matter where in the world he happened to pop out of his mother's womb.

The guy expresses his inability to serve and you question why he is fired. F**king ridiculous.

He doesn't want to go fight, and so uses this continuing conspiracy theory to cover his whiny ass.

Nice try Little Slow, but, even though we certainly recognize that you are true to your name, it is hard to imagine that people who seek the truth in this matter have not already summarily dismissed your proposition as incorrect. Under current law, Obama cannot be considered a natural born citizen to be qualified to seek the presidency if he was born in Kenya, no matter whether his mother was a U.S. Citizen or not. That is why there is a massive effort underway to cover-up and secret proof that there is in fact no long-form birth certificate for him on file in Hawaii evidencing that he was born on US soil.

The 14th Amendment defines citizenship this way: "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside." As usual, the Constitution provides the framework for the law, but it is the law that fills in the gaps.

Currently, Title 8 of the U.S. Code fills in those gaps. Section 1401 defines the following as people who are "citizens of the United States at birth:"

Anyone born inside the United States *
Any Indian or Eskimo born in the United States, provided being a citizen of the U.S. does not impair the person's status as a citizen of the tribe
Any one born outside the United States, both of whose parents are citizens of the U.S., as long as one parent has lived in the U.S.
Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national
Any one born in a U.S. possession, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year
Any one found in the U.S. under the age of five, whose parentage cannot be determined, as long as proof of non-citizenship is not provided by age 21
Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)
A final, historical condition: a person born before 5/24/1934 of an alien father and a U.S. citizen mother who has lived in the U.S.
* There is an exception in the law — the person must be "subject to the jurisdiction" of the United States. This would exempt the child of a diplomat, for example, from this provision.

Anyone falling into these categories is considered natural-born, and is eligible to run for President or Vice President. These provisions allow the children of military families to be considered natural-born, for example.

Unfortunately for Obama, he cannot claim that he falls under any of these categories.

The law contains one other section of historical note, concerning the Panama Canal Zone and the nation of Panama. In 8 USC 1403, the law states that anyone born in the Canal Zone or in Panama itself, on or after February 26, 1904, to a mother and/or father who is a United States citizen, was "declared" to be a United States citizen. Note that the terms "natural-born" or "citizen at birth" are missing from this section.

In 2008, when Arizona Senator John McCain ran for president on the Republican ticket, some theorized that because McCain was born in the Canal Zone, he was not actually qualified to be president. However, it should be noted that section 1403 was written to apply to a small group of people to whom section 1401 did not apply. McCain is a natural-born citizen under 8 USC 1401(c): "a person born outside of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents both of whom are citizens of the United States and one of whom has had a residence in the United States or one of its outlying possessions, prior to the birth of such person."

Little Slow, this is just the law of the U.S., and we are supposedly a nation and citizenry subject to the rule of law, even if you are Dear Leader.

Anonymouse: "He doesn't want to go fight, and so uses this continuing conspiracy theory to cover his whiny ass."

What evidence do you have that Cook doesn't want to fight, Anonymouse? Or are you just fresh out of ideas of how to address the fact your Dear Leader refuses to provide proof of his natural born citizenship, so you must create diversion?

I'm sure Cook is sufficiently stealth and trained such that he would gut and quarter you within 3 minutes, if you were opposing him on the battlefield.

Unlike your type, he is a man of principle, who when he sees an injustice, in the case of a massive cover-up conspiracy to secret evidence of Obama's status to serve as his commander and chief, he is brave enough to confront it.

"What evidence do you have that Cook doesn't want to fight, Anonymouse?"

Uh, how about the fact that he volunteered months after Obama was elected and long after this birth certificate stupidity had been going on.

What evidence do you have that he is a man of principle and not a chicken shit avoiding his duty? For that matter, what evidence do you have of his fighting prowess?

Lets not forget that he isn't saying anything against the war itself.

His only comment is that he himself shouldn't deploy. Yeah, he is so very brave.

Obama should be presumed Guilty until he can prove himself innocent just like the rest of us. All it would take is a legitimate, legal birth certificate. I can get mine from the state in about an hour. Why can't President Godbama?
One wonders...

You're a friggin idiot. I don't know how you can all keep asking "where is it?" Its a click away on the internet fool. CHeck it out. Its been posted on this string several times.

Are you stupid, or just lazy? One wonders...

And this pathetic idiot "Cook" you're all lining up behind. In any other situation you'd see him for the shirking sack of crap that he is, trying to get out of duty. But because in this instance you think that he'll help you with this non-existent birth issue, you love him.

He's disgusting, and deserves worse than the firing he got. He should be ashamed, but you're all holding him up as some kind of example. Positively pathetic.

anonymous, do you have a legitimate point? Or are you just another coolaid drinking, obama fellating,pussbag? One wonders...

I have many. Please read above to find them.

Clearly you have no points to make though, and are angry about the points I did make. Come back with something besides names and we can talk.

Grayjohn - Anonymouse is just another coolaid drinking, obama fellating,pussbag, who's covering for his Kenyan-born leftist leader, who refuses to produce (because none exists) a long-form certified copy of the birth certificate, not the photoshopped fraud from the daily KOS that anonypussy wants everyone to be content with. That fraud has been exposed in detail as Ted liked to earlier: http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/07/atlas-exclusive.html
Anonypussy is the typical stuck-on-stupid, gas bag, leftist troll, who can't respond to a direct question - why won't Obama produce a certified copy of the original long-form birth certificate? Answer: None exists, because Obama was born in Kenya, just like his paternal grandmother said.

Hay, I hate 99% of what Obama's been doing, but I think the conservative side is falling into a trap with this Birth Certificate issue. Hawaii doesn't issue "long form" birth certificates and hasn't since 2001. When you request a copy of your birth certificate from the state of Hawaii you get the one Obama has produced. THAT'S why there is no birth certificate with foot prints and Dr. signatures.

WND has been pushing this hard, and I think doing a disservice to conservatives and misleading people.

Why doesn't the administration, Obama and Gibbs and CNN and others who cover this in the MSM shout that little fact from the mountain tops to put an end to all of it? They WANT it to go on, they think it makes us looks like fools. Alan Keys has destroyed the credibility he had left by pushing for this... and others who take it up risk doing the same. The longer this goes on and the more who take up the question of "wheres the birth certificate" the easier it is to equate tea partiers with black helicopter tin foil hat folks.

Yea, Obama dosn't want this to be settled in court, Gibbs gives vague answers on purpose, to keep it going in an effort to discredit us!

Please, for the sake of non-moonbats everywhere, give up this issue please!

Below are two official emails that dispute the public version of Obama’s Birth and his mother’s marriage to BHO Sr.

From: pubrec@u.washington.edu [mailto:pubrec@u.washington.edu]
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008
Subject: Re: Stanley "Ann" Dunham 1960 to 1970 class registration

Ms. Stanley Ann Dunham (BHO II’s mom) was enrolled at the University of Washington for:

Autumn 1961
Winter 1962
Spring 1962

The records responsive to your request from the University of Washington are above as provided by the Public Disclosure Laws of Washington State. This concludes the University’s response to your Public Records request. Please feel free to contact our office if you have any questions or concerns.

Madolyne Lawson
Office of Public Records
206-543-9180

From: Stuart Lau [mailto:stuartl@hawaii.edu]
Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008
Subject: Re: Inquiry

The University of Hawaii at Manoa is only able to provide the following information for Stanley Ann Dunham:
Dates of attendance:
Fall 1960 (First day of instruction 9/26/1960)
Spring 1963 - Summer 1966
Fall 1972 - Fall 1974
Summer 1976
Spring 1978
Fall 1984 - Summer 1992

Degrees awarded:
BA - Mathematics, Summer 1967 (August 6, 1967)
MA - Anthropology, Fall 1983 (December 18, 1983)
PhD - Anthropology, Summer 1992 (August 9, 1992)

Sincerely, Stuart Lau
****************************************
Stuart Lau
University Registrar
Office of Admissions and Records
University of Hawaii at Manoa
Ph: (808) 956-8010
****************************************

Commentary on University Emails:

For the BHO II Hawaiian Aug 4 1961 COLB to be accurate the following improbable events needed to occur:

1 month after starting classes, Stanley Ann Dunham, Barack’s mom, at age 17, got pregnant by the only black African man on the entire chain of Hawaiian islands.
2 months after getting pregnant, she drops out of college.
3 months after getting pregnant, she marries BHO Sr.
10 months after her first day at the U of HI, she delivers BHO II and immediately leaves her parents, her new husband, and her home, to fly alone with a newborn 2800 miles to Seattle to start college at the U of W.
Stanley Ann Dunham does not return to Hawaii until AFTER BHO Sr left the islands for Harvard.

This is an implausible series of events made even more nefarious because Obama II in his 2 bio books never mentions his mom left Hawaii when she was married to BHO Sr, nor does he mention she was in Washington State during this time.

ALL I GOT TO SAY IS, IF YOU SCARED SAY YOUR SCARED!! STOP MAKING EXCUSES WHY YOU DON'T WANT TO SERVE, BUSH GOT US INTO THIS ILLEGAL WAR (IN IRAQ)... AT LEAST OBAMA IS DOING THE RIGHT THING TAKING A STAND AND GETTING US OUT OF IT.. I WAS DEPLOYED FOR OEF 1 AND OIF 1, I KNEW THE REASONS WE WENT TO WAR IN IRAQ WERE B.S. BUT I STILL WENT I DIDN'T GO CRYING TO THE NEWS AND FILING LAWSUITS ABOUT IT.. BECAUSE BOTTOM LINE U GO TO WAR AND U FIGHT FOR YOUR FAMILY AND COUNTRY AND FOR YOUR BATTLE BUDDY NEXT TO YOU!! WE SEE WHERE THIS MAJORS HEART IS! I HOPE HE DOES THE MANLY THING AND HAND IN HIS RESIGNATION AND PANTIES ALONG WITH IT! *NO OFFENSE TO OUR FEMALE SOLDIERS*

Some people we'll have to see the actual paper and STILL deny it's authenticity... Get a life..

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html