July 20, 2009
ObamaCare to Provide Free Healthcare for Illegal Aliens
It should come as no surprise that ObamaCare will mean we taxpayers get to buy free healthcare for millions of illegal aliens:
On Friday, Democrats moved one step closer to giving free health insurance to the nation's estimated 12 million illegal aliens when they successfully defeated a Republican-backed amendment, offered by Rep. Dean Heller, R-Nev., that would have prevented illegal aliens from receiving government-subsidized health care under the proposed plan backed by House Democrats and President Barack Obama.
The actual number of illegals lining up to suck our country dry is probably much higher than 12 million, and will hardly be reduced when we hang out a sign reading FREE MEDICAL CARE. As for the will of the people,
A recent Rasmussen Reports poll found that an overwhelming 80 percent of Americans oppose covering illegals in any public health care bill.
So much for representative government. In case you thought our rulers are the least concerned with what we want:
One of the ironies of the proposed legislation is that it would fine American citizens who opt not to purchase insurance coverage, but would exempt illegals from such fines.
First, the government allows millions of Third-World peasants to illegally colonize our country. Second, it refuses to kick them out. Third, it forces us to buy them all free health care at a cost our economy simply cannot sustain during a recession. Fourth will be the coup de grâce: "immigration reform," aka amnesty, intended to ensure a permanent socialist majority.
On a tip from Oaio.
Posted by Van Helsing at July 20, 2009 11:24 AM
This is going to be real popular.
They've been including illegals in their numbers of uninsured all along, so it's not surprising.
Wonder why the MSM and McCain never called them on that. It's pretty easy to do:
Obama: "...47 million go without insurance..."
Reporter: "Mr. President, are you counting the 12 million illegal aliens in your totals?"
follow up: "And how about young, healthy people who can afford at least high deductible "catastrophe insurance" insurance, but choose not to buy it? Are they included as well?"
Posted by: forest at July 20, 2009 12:00 PM
The truth is that illegals don't need a new healthcare plan. The one that they currently use, that has been forcing hospitals to close and costs to skyrocket, is called simply 'not paying'.
Posted by: Smoke TNT at July 20, 2009 12:01 PM
I was forced to go to a local emergency room last Saturday around 11:00 am because I sliced my arm open cleaning out some gutters at home and needed some stiches and a tetanus shot. The waiting room was chocked full of illegal aliens, many of them looked perfectly healthy compared to me, with bloody bandages on my arm, a few coughing and weasing. Nevertheless, the nurse informed me that the wait was going to be about three hours to see the doctor to get stiched. Since I had time to kill, I left to go to a nearby government surplus shop where I found a few cool shirts and trousers. I liked one so much that I decided to wear one of the store after the purchase and back to the waiting room. To my surprise, shortly after I walked back into the crowded waiting room it seemed that everyone who saw me just skedaddled, and I was the only person left. The nurse came out and was a little miffed, but soon thereafter I got right in to see the doctor and stitched up. Then I realized that I was wearing a T-shirt that on the back had U.S. Customs & Immigration Enforcement emblazened in all-caps yellow letters. Now I know what I'm going wear the next time I have to go to the emergency room.
Posted by: GhostofJournalism at July 20, 2009 2:09 PM
YOU CANNOT SEPARATE ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION FROM ANY POTENTIAL HEALTH CARE AGENDA
The meat and potatoes of this health care and illegal immigration occupation crisis is saving money, and a quality of care that everybody can participate in? The amount of cold hard cash spent on doctors, hospitals and a subsidiary of middle men goes into the trillions of dollars annually. Health care is a major part of the GMP, because our system of health care contains very little preventative medicine and–EVERYTHING–to do with keeping the status quo well furnished with dollars. The AMA has ruled the roost since the 1920’s and allowed very little alternative medicine to surface amongst the now multi billion dollar industry such as Cancer. A good example is the Rife machine that was heralded by many doctors in the 1930’s, but because of its was a new innovation to combat disease it disappeared, with its inventor ostracized and black listed by the medical Federation. The medical profession suddenly comes to the realization that perhaps this new medical tool could cut down the patient line at their office. Instead of the research being immediately picked up by the AMA and studied, it was consumed in ugly controversy and vanished from public view. Illegal Immigration cannot be separated from the health care dilemma, because of the giant expenditure placed on the back of taxpayers. This will be become more eye-opening within my summary, further down the pages.
Not having been really sick in the United States, I dread entering a hospital here for serious surgery. Most of my experience is in England and Australia over my early years. Television, radio and the newspapers are already building up a crescendo of negative ads, about the quality of care in Canada, Britain and other industrialized nations, because the special interest lobby doesn’t want their lucrative world shaken. So now I want to clear up the radical propaganda and just downright lies enforced by millions of dollars spent to frighten the population, specially aimed at the senior citizen. Both countries Britain and Australia are a fine example of health care distribution. With England, my place of birth, the National health Service (NHS) was created in 1948 It is a service which offers free access to medical care to the entire population as a right of citizenship, regardless of the capacity to pay. It is a service which recognizes only one principle for allocating resources to individual patients that of want as defined by the professional providers of health care. It is a service, furthermore, which is overwhelmingly, financed out of general taxation, and which is thus a dominant instrument for redistributing money from the working population to the sick and to the senior citizens. Until the 1950 it worked exceedingly well, until the importation of commonwealth workers to drive London buses and run the British Railway transportation.
In 1956, London Transport began to recruit directly from the isle of Barbados, inviting men and women to become bus conductors, underground staff and canteen assistants. London Transport recruited in Barbados until 1970 and extended the program to Jamaica and Trinidad for a year in 1966. Britain agreed in principle to join the European Economic Community effective Jan. 1, 1973, original known to Brits as the Common Market. The “One Market” that was created in 1993 states that people, money, services, and trade can move freely within the European Union. Currently over 450 million EU citizens are provided with these special options. In spite of the restrictive immigration policies which have been in place since the 1970s in most Member States Of The European Union, large numbers of legal and illegal migrants have continued to come to the EU together with asylum-seekers and illegal labor. Taking advantage of individuals seeking an improved life, smuggling and skin trafficking networks have taken hold across the EU. It was the end to me of the generations of the old English Pounds, Shillings and pence currency and the introduction of decimal coinage. Good, wholesome health care came to a sudden halt, with the free movement of foreign labor by the globalist agenda, which then threatened the stability of the European common market.
As a young man I remember getting the flue, and arriving at the local doctors office. Back in the 50’s, you could choose your physician and sit in the reception room, with perhaps 10 other sick patients. The nurse in charge sat at a desk and greeted new arrivals as they entered the office, which was in most cases a large, residential house. When the bell rung you was ushered into the doctors office, who was already looking at your medical record. After an examination, just like in the United States, the doctor wrote the prescription for medicine and you were on your way. If it turned out that your condition required further examination, you received a not from the doctor, with an appointment at the local hospital. But times have changed now and my distant relatives tell me that because of the continuous import of legal and illegal commonwealth and other countries masses. From what I understand, like never before England, Ireland and Scotland have become overwhelmed by immigrants. London specifically, is not the place that I once new as it has become jammed with traffic and unholy mess of spiraling crime, never before seen in the England.
The adverse American health care special interest lobby now has plenty of ammunition, to demonize the once great British National medical care services. Even my relatives agree that the system has rapidly deteriorated from what it was once? I participated in national pool, paid my National Insurance stamps as my employer did and I was always rewarded with decent medical care. On several occasions I ended up in the cottage hospital and their was never a cost applied to it, never a ream of paperwork. No doctor, no hospital or specialist ask me for my Social Security number, drivers license or if I was covered by a predatory for-profit insurer. Unlike America I never had to worry about a debt collector, or being summons to a bankruptcy court. Here, I know actual families who ended up under insured and have spent years fighting with insurance companies. The average American family can suddenly find themselves backed-up, with hospital and doctor bills at any time, even when since Moses they have been methodically paying premiums and co-pays and other extraction techniques adopted by the Insurance companies.
I certainly don’t agree with every new policy that is under consideration by the majority Democratic leadership, headed by President Obama. When I like hundreds of thousands of other honest immigrants wait for an employment visa, sometimes for years. The inspection process of biographical data, the FBI background investigation, the physical examination and the rest, doesn’t make the sincere immigrant very favorable to those who just literary slip past the US Border Patrol. To me it’s a complete outrage to all of us, who respect the Rule of American law and the omnipotent Constitution of the United States.
The majority of Naturalized citizens cherish, with great servility that we have been endowed with this great countries freedoms, protection and security. This is not conveyed to me by most of the politicians that we voted into office. Each one when taking the Oath of office, states with their hand on the great book, to protect the citizens of the United States from both enemies foreign and domestic. This hardly bares water, because they are continually genuflecting for all their worth, for campaign contributions, money and gifts and the potential of incumbents ideology of a long career in politics. They have a powerful money machine behind them–THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY–that have all the cards?
The Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act (42 U.S.C. § 1395dd, EMTALA) is a United States Act of Congress passed in 1986. hospital and ambulance services must impart care to anyone needing emergency treatment regardless of citizenship, legal status or ability to pay. The only problem with is, that the federal mandated law never pays the full amount to the institution, if any, so the hospital passes it on to other patients, the insurance company? You guessed it? The good, old trusting taxpayer who falls for the rhetoric every time? This is now the incredulous problem that surfaced in England and Europe as millions of foreign born has swarmed the shores of half a dozen governmental health care institutions. The main culprit, as here in the United States is the ominous attraction of companies, who identify cheap labor with high profits. Why give benefits like health care to illegal foreign workers, when the American taxpayer can be hit for higher taxes? It seems like that both political parties concur with this summary, because right now if–IF– a health care bill is passed with a government run health agency for the poor, low income–it also means the 20 million illegal immigrants squatting here. So really we are no better off. It just means higher taxes for the working class. It certainly does mean a small tax token for the wealthy amongst us? Of course the wealthiest amongst us are the businesses that hire cheap labor, and without any fear of contradiction, they will find a loophole? The mega industries have always found a way, not to pay very few taxes. Much of their ill-gotten gains are spirited into off-shore accounts, so the IRS in most cases cannot get to it, or even know about it.
Another federal mandate forced on the taxpayer through the court system was obviously In Plyer Vs. Brown case Texas law which withheld funds from local school districts for educating children not legally admitted into the United States and the authorization of these districts to deny these children enrollment, violated the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution. So now California–the now SANCTUARY STATE– has been seriously damaged by the courts, because literary millions of foreign born children–ILLEGAL OR NOT–swallows up billions of dollars. The schools have become overcrowded, under funded and embarrassment to much of the country. The teachers are required to spend their precious time on the children of foreign nationals who cannot comprehend English. So the obvious outcome is American children are less educated, and have plummeted to the bottom of the performance chart. Going to pick up my relatives son in K-12, was like visiting a third world nation.
The blame must be slammed in the laps of the parasite businesses. They seem to think however illegally the workers are, they have a right to hire foreign labor for the workplace? Second are the all prevailing courts that have fashioned laws for minorities, and not for the American public as a whole? Chief Justice Burger was joined by Justice White, Justice Rehnquist,and Justice O’Connor in dissenting, saying that while it was regrettable that Congress had been lax in its enforcement of the country’s immigration laws, it was not the Court’s responsibility to make up for that laxity. So therefore they judged the law against the common good of the population, to the millions of illegal aliens who broke our laws. The American taxpayer is forced once again owing to the corruption and utter indifference, to their countryman from their side of the fence into ours. Yet another law sided with a foreign invasion force is the Birthright law, which should never have been conceded. The children born in the United States to illegal alien mothers are often referred to as “anchor babies. These children are U.S. citizens at birth, simply because they were born on U.S. soil. Any female who is pregnant and like thousands of other women who intentionally enter the United States illegally annually, knows that giving birth in the U.S. means her child will be an “anchor baby” and granted instant U.S. citizenship. For this women it means her child will qualify for a cornucopia of federal, state and local benefit programs.
They are called anchor babies because, as U.S. citizens, they become eligible to sponsor for legal immigration most of their kinship, including their illegal alien mothers, when they turn 21 years of age, thus becoming the U.S. “anchor” for an extended immigrant family. From the beginning the mother can Thousands of pregnant women who are about to deliver come to the United States each year from countries as far away as China and as near as Mexico so that they can give birth on U.S. soil. Some come legally as temporary visitors; others enter illegally. Once the baby is born, they get a U.S. birth certificate and passport for the child, and their future link to this country is recognized and irreversible. The answer lies in how American jurisprudence has interpreted the 14th Amendment to the Constitution.
The 14th Amendment was added to the Constitution as a part of the post Civil War reforms intended to address injustices to African Americans. It states that “all persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof are citizens of the United States” and was crafted so that state governments could never deny citizenship to anyone born in the United States. However, when the amendment was authored, the United States had no immigration policy, and thus the drafters saw no need to state unequivocally, what they assumed was understood. The phrase “subject to the jurisdiction thereof” was anticipated to exclude from automatic citizenship American-born persons whose allegiance to the United States was not complete. In the case of illegal aliens who are temporarily or unlawfully in the United States, because their indigenous country has a claim of allegiance to the child, the completeness of the allegiance to the United States is impaired and logically precludes automatic citizenship.
These Immigrants to the United States are far more likely to use welfare (programs such as Medicare/Medicaid or food stamps) than native-born American families, because they come here penniless. Nationwide, non-native households are 59% more likely to take advantage of a state or federal welfare program than a bona-fide household. Whether by intention or short sightedness of our government, no real numbers are available. The globalist and free open-border traders have seen to that, although our own government and the liberal press always offer the number of 13 million. But this estimation has been amply displayed in newspapers, for the last 7 years.
The need to curtail illegal immigration prompted Congress to enact the Immigration Reform and Control Act (IRCA) of 1986. The IRCA toughened criminal sanctions for employers who hired illegal aliens, denied illegal aliens federally funded welfare benefits, and legitimized some aliens through an amnesty program–EXCEPT THESE LAWS NEVER WERE ENFORCED? The real enigma lies in the wording of the 1986 law? The IRCA toughened–CRIMINAL SANCTIONS–for employers who hired illegal aliens, DENIED ILLEGAL ALIENS FEDERALLY FUNDED WELFARE BENEFITS. Neither the federal government, nor state county have denied most benefits to illegal immigrants. That is why one state–California–is involved in a monstrous budget deficit? That is why Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger refuses to sign any legislation for higher taxes, in a collapsing economy that was a financial icon for the whole of America. Bright lights are on at night in the Democratic-Liberal assembly building in Sacramento and have so far failed to pass any budget agreement. I wish them luck as they try to find relieve from the crushing pressure of $24.5 billion dollars, that they have imposed on themselves from the tax and spend politicians that infest the state capitol. City manager Andronovich demonstrated to the people of Los Angeles county, that $11 billion dollars went to underwrite the impoverished, considerable numbers being illegal alien families.
California has been overrun with millions of illegal entrants, as with Arizona and other border states. An the ingredients of federal law has been a breeding ground for entitlements that have been gravely compromised by pandering to illegal families. The federal government has control over immigration law for the United States. But by not addressing this abuse, fraud with the funds that state and local governments must provide to anchor babies amounts to a virtual tax on U.S. citizens to subsidize illegal aliens. By not closing this loophole, the federal government in effect rewards law-breakers and punishes those who have chosen to follow the rules and immigrate legally. Allowing illegal aliens to give birth to American citizens, in effect, makes citizenship a license for welfare.
It would be untrue to accuse just the Democrats for this, because all politicians have been involved in distracting–THE PEOPLE–from the real issues that cost them a lot of money. The population falls for these trickster’s every time, so they can hit you with either higher taxes or give huge tax reimbursements to their corporate comrades. Illegal immigration is a major depletion of every tax treasury, throughout this land. Giving any kind of AMNESTY will enhance the predictable–OVERPOPULATION. The complete neglect of our interstate highway system, tunnels and bridges is just the slow eroding of our infrastructure. In the near future the population growth will explode, to over another hundred million people. Look at it this way? it took from the time of the pilgrims, to our unsettled economic recession of today, to reach a population of 305 million? Within no more than 40 years we could reach an estimated population, according to the US census 435 million people. IT would be an unmentionable catastrophe to open the doors wide at the border, giving millions of illegal immigrant’s expressway to a path to citizenship. You must decide the future of future generations, because just my ranting will have very little influence on the power brokers in Washington. Call your Senator or Congressman and impress on the people you vote into office that you want an alternative to the predatory health care insurers. You want the right to choose?
That includes the Universal government run system that certainly isn’t any worse than the profit insurers we have now. That you also want your political representative to curtail any path to citizenship, but to enforce with rigid authority E-Verify, police right to arrest 287(g) enforcement of illegal aliens. Tell them you are a voter and convey to them, as you voted them into office as you can remove them. Learn more of the facts about the costs and fallacies spawned by special interest lobbyists and liberal press at NUMBERSUSA, CAPSWEB, JUDICIALWATCH, SAVEOURSTATE, GRASSFIRE, AMERICANPATROL, THE DARK SIDE OF ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION.
Read more nefarious ingredients at http://www.redcounty.com/what-if-20-million-unlawful-immigrants-vacated-america#comment-11225
Posted by: Brittancus at July 20, 2009 3:05 PM
The actual number is more like 20 million, my belief is we actually only have about five million true uninsured in the U.S. the rest can afford it but don't want the expense or are illegals.
Posted by: Oldcrow at July 20, 2009 7:37 PM
Posted by: GhostofJournalism at July 20, 2009 2:09 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA that is awesome dude!
Posted by: mandible claw at July 20, 2009 8:33 PM
GRUMBLE,SNORT,SNARL,SQUAWK,SQUAWK,SQUAWK, IM ONE VERY MAD SHOREBIRD SQUAWK SQUAWK SQUAWK
Posted by: SPURWING PLOVER at July 20, 2009 9:06 PM
Why not just expand coverage to all of North and South America and get it overwith? Just tax the rich! Yeah, thats the ticket. And everyone gets 2 pounds of ham on their first doctor visit.
Posted by: Ghost of Vince Foster at July 21, 2009 5:04 AM
"And everyone gets 2 pounds of ham on their first doctor visit.
Posted by: Ghost of Vince Foster at July 21, 2009 5:04 AM"
Can I take a pass on the ham and take the $2 million instead?
Posted by: forest at July 21, 2009 6:42 AM
"Posted by: GhostofJournalism at July 20, 2009 2:09 PM"
Good story. I guess at least one of the illegals could at least read some English.
Posted by: forest at July 21, 2009 6:43 AM
The funny thing about this mess is the very rich will fly into south-of-the-border top-of-the-line medical facilities. The rest of us will be forced to go to affirmative action doctors in the US.
Posted by: oldguy at July 21, 2009 9:22 AM
What a coincidence. The "enrichment" of Britain is also set to pick up speed via NHS-
"A million failed asylum seekers will get free NHS care... At present, they are denied free treatment if an asylum bid has been turned down but they have not left the country. But a Government U-turn means failed applicants who are destitute or cannot return home 'through no fault of their own', will be entitled to free care... Health tourism is understood to cost the NHS more than £200million a year. Most countries have social insurance systems where patients are expected to prove they can pay before being treated. But our NHS is free at the point of need... Sir Andrew Green, chairman of MigrationWatch, said the rules gave the green light for up to one million illegal immigrants to get free NHS care. This is possible because GPs can put patients on their books without checking if they are entitled to free care. Sir Andrew said: 'This is yet another capitulation to the immigration lobby. No wonder they are queueing up in Calais.'..."
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1200930/Failed-asylum-seekers-free-care-cash-strapped-NHS-protect-human-rights.html#ixzz0LxRvOKPm
Posted by: chairman soetoro's oprichniki at July 21, 2009 9:20 PM
I am an american citizen. I am 62 yrs old and had worked for the last 45 years. Lost my job 2 yrs ago and right now I cant get medical insurance because of my existing health condition. To hear the news about obama extending health care to illegals make me real sick and reaffimred my belief that this man will destroy american.
Posted by: jonas santos at July 24, 2009 8:57 AM
I was at my HMO urgent care w/a painful bladder infection b/c I couldn't get appt w/my Dr for 4 dys.The waiting room was full of illegals, for which the triage nurse apologized & told me that I'd have to wait all day to be seen.I did wait all day: I was an hour from home & leaving on a plane to visit my mother on the other side of the country & wanted to take care of this before the trip. When it was my "turn" I was told there was not a Dr available to write a prescription that I'd have to wait longer, or even come back the next day.Disgusted, in a poetic turnaround, I finally drove 2 hrs south, walked across the Mexican border, & purchased the very simple, common drug I needed to take care of my problem. My husband & I pay $2000 monthly for this HMO & rarely get to use it due to crap like this. I AM ALREADY PAYING plenty for illegal health care, illegal education, illegal free breakfast/lunch, illegal uninsured drivers,& so on, ad nauseum. If Obamacare passes, I totally understand that I will STILL be paying, maybe more than I do now, & will be not only at the end of the line as I am NOW ALREADY, but I will be rationed,& kicked to the curb to die in 10 yrs by the Obamacare system when my Dr. writes into my record (due to the MANDATED "death with dignity" clause in this new bill) when I have my LEGALLY REQUIRED (by the bill) talk with him starting at age 65(& every 5 yrs. thereafter)----"No heroic measures, withhold treatment."
Posted by: socalgal at July 25, 2009 2:38 PM
One day a poor pregnant woman came to a Conservative Repubican
“Oh, wise one” cried the woman. “My husband was killed in an auto accident. I am an illegal alien and I cannot support this child in my belly. I will have an abortion. ”
The Republican gazed upon the poor woman and replied “No. Woman. The baby in your belly has a right to life. God loves every child. Go and have your baby and forget about an abortion”
So the woman had her baby.
The baby was born gravely sick.
It needed a doctor and expensive medical care.
So the woman returned to Conservative Republican.
“Oh wise one. My baby is sick. But I am poor. I have no means of support and no health insurance. My child needs expensive medical care.”
The Conservative lectured the woman:
“You are an illegal alien” He reminded her . “If your child is sick and you cannot afford a doctor you have no one to blame but yourself. You should never have come here in the first place."
The new born child died after much suffering
Posted by: Norris Hall at July 30, 2009 12:15 AM