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July 14, 2009

Adventures in Socialized Medicine

Steven Crowder goes north of the border for a preview of our glorious socialist future:

If you're going to get sick, you'd better do it now, while we still have a functioning healthcare system.

On a tip from Katya Kakhov.

Posted by Van Helsing at July 14, 2009 8:37 PM

Comments

Absolutely awesome piece of video!

Posted by: Kurt at July 14, 2009 10:43 PM

yeah boy, that CanuckCare is just what we need.
I am sure my employeer will love paying for me to cool my heels for seven hours so I can be told to get in the next line. Looking forward to that.
I actually had to go to a clinic in Canada for an ear infection. I went back twice because the third-rate antibiotic they gave me did nothing. Soon as I crossed the border into the States, I went to a doc in the box, got a good antibiotic and was cured in three days. I loved the part where the nurse said, "You're young and you have plenty of time to see a doctor". This country is headed for the last roundup and it won't be pretty.

Posted by: gordo at July 14, 2009 11:37 PM

Libtard bashing from the socialist medicine uncovers racists thread:

Life expectancy/cost per capita (2003)
Japan: 82.07 / $2,249
Australia 80.62 / $2,886
Canada 80.34 / $2,998
Netherlands 79.11 / $2,909
United Kingdom 78.7 / $2,317
United States 78.06 / $5,711

Why is the cost of US health care so outrageous (double the cost) while the result so average? Maybe the insurance industry taking its profit while refusing to actually cover people when they get sick might just have something to do with it.

Posted by: Lunapippistrellus at July 13, 2009 3:42 PM


Number of illegal immigrants in America: approx. 50 million

Population of Sweden: less than 35 million.

Population of Australia: less than 25 million.

Population of Sweden: less than 10 million.

Number of patients on waiting lists in Canada at any one time: approx. 900,000, close to 1% of the population.

Number of patients on waiting lists in the UK at any one time: approx 1 million, close to 2% of the population.

Number of people who enter hospital each year in industrialized nations: approx. 15% of the population.

Patient load for doctors in the UK and Canada: approx. 50% higher than in the U.S., with corresponding smaller amounts of time and resources available per patient.

Average waiting times for procedures such as orthopedic consultation in Canada: approx. nine times longer than in the US.

Proportion of chronic renal failure patients in Canada and the UK who get dialysis: 1/2 and 1/3 as many as in the US, respectively.

Number of CAT scanners in the UK: approx. 1/2 the number of CAT scanners in the US.

Life expectancy at birth for African American men: 68 years. Life expectancy at birth for Asian American men: 81 years. Under the same health care system.

Number of women diagnosed with breast cancer who die:

U.S.: 1 in 5
France and Germany: 1 in 3
U.K. and New Zealand: 1 in 2

Proportion of total worldwide pharmaceutical spending paid for by Americans, due to subsidized drug sales overseas and the reimport ban: about 50%.

Poportion of worldwide pharmaceutical spending paid for via drug purchases by patients in Germany, the world's third-largest economy: less than 5%.


/But yeah, you're right, it's probably those damn insurance companies that make healthcare in America cost twice as much.

Posted by: mandible claw at July 15, 2009 12:44 AM

Posted by: mandible claw at July 15, 2009 5:03 AM

The big reason why costs are higher in the US is lawsuits - not just direct costs of huge awards but the practice of defensive medicine - ordering batteries of unecessary tests over and over in order to protect themselves and the hospitals against lawsuits. Then there is simply the higher costs of all that technology.

In other countries listed healthcare is rationed and doctors pay restricted.

In the US large number of illegals with major health problems drag down the average age of death. Blacks also tend to die far sooner. The other countries listed - especially Japan have few blacks, who in the US, have very unhealthy diets.

Posted by: Anonymous at July 15, 2009 5:22 AM

Anonymous is partially correct; the cost of malpractice insurance is huge. That's why lone practitioners are a vanishing breed. Group medical services are formed for the sole purpose of survival.

A major part of the solution is to develop more doctors. Admission to med schools in the US is artificially limited by the AMA guidelines, in the name of creating "better quality" doctors. Well, let's take some of that money the Dems want to spend on the healthcare system and develop new med schools. Make it possible for qualified candidates to get a free medical education IF they agree to become general practitioners (internists, etc) for a period of five to seven years before they can become a specialist.

We have no shortage of plastic surgeons, oncologists, OB/GYNs because those specialities pay so much better than being a GP. Yet it is the GP that provides front line medical care and that's what's needed.

Without trying to oversimplify the problem, if the supply of GPs increases, the cost will go down. Add to that some immunity from outrageous litigation costs, and healthcare will be on the road to recovery.

Posted by: Son of Taz at July 15, 2009 6:46 AM

Please to remember commrades , decades of servicing customers whose costs were "covered" by health insurance has removed health care from the laws of a free market .

Think really hard about the implications of what I just said . The conundrum of health care being so expensive you cant get it without insurance , and insurance being so expensive you can't afford it are intertwined therin . The notion that insurance is requisite is so ingrained that the notion of it being a large part of the problem is summarily dismissed and then universal insurance is touted as the cure in the same breath .

Please to excuse now , I must repair to my NAPA store and continue to build a great peoples state .

Posted by: Katya Kakhov at July 15, 2009 7:11 AM

Son of Taz, I would add in a fundamental change in how folks view health insurance as well. It used to be, long ago, that health insurance was generally for unexpected catastrophes. Most everything else was paid for out-of-pocket.

Posted by: cowlove at July 15, 2009 8:05 AM

Nevermind, Katya expounded on it far better than I could have, and with humor. Kudos.

Posted by: cowlove at July 15, 2009 8:07 AM

And a companion piece , please for to be noting the sea of apparatchiks between consumer and provider . Also note employers are considered a sepperate entity from the bourguoise .

http://gopleader.gov/UploadedFiles/House-Democrats-Health-Plan.pdf


If I could only shake my natural propensity for fixing things , to breaking them , I would stand a chance in this new age .

Posted by: Anonymous at July 15, 2009 9:08 AM

I just heard last week that by 2050 there will be 6 million people aged 100+ years (there are currently about 350,000). The largest concentrations will be in Japan and, get this, the United States! Japan because of their diet and probably a God-given propensity for long lives; the U.S.?? Because we have superior healthcare. Are our insurance companies without their faults? NO! So give them an overhaul and impose some regulations to protect the public. Put a stop to frivilous lawsuits. And most of all, mandate that the 60% of Americans who are eligible for Medicaid, but refuse to sign up, take advantage of the free government healthcare already available to them rather than crowding our ER's for minor illness and costing taxpayers more money. There are many things that can be done to improve our current situation, but do not take away our choice!!

Posted by: Stefanie at July 30, 2009 5:09 PM