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Have you guys heard of the Janet Contreras open letter to the gov't that has gone viral? You can find it here

http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/196/26808/

And from there you can sign a petition for support and agreement. It has 89,110 sigs as of 10:30 this morning.

feelings? i didn`t know you had any feelings.....

feelings like when you whiners wanted David Letterman fired for hurting your feelings? lol losers. Bush and Cheney embarrassed us on 9/11, they had a report saying Bin Laden was going to attack and they did jackshit. Bush showed leadership on 9/11 by sitting for 7 min reading my pet goat after he was told the country was under attack, he just sat there like Forrest Gump and pissed his self.

Maobama should fill one of these forms out because Fox News hurts his feelings every day. As a matter of fact, I don't think anyone besides his grandmother has ever hurt his feelings. He doesn't know how to deal with it, especially without his teleprompter.

What Letterman did was commit a HATE CRIME - he needs to be punished! At least according to Moonbat philosophy.

Don Imus, though liberal, was not spared because he called black women "nappy headed hoes". If the target is white and conservative - thats ok with the left.

Now if Obama daughters are called "nappy headed hoes" and Michelle Obama a Madame who prostitutes them - all hell would break loose and Letterman would be cast out.

Ian you should be made aware that troofers don't carry much weight here.

Moonbat government in Pittsburgh prepares for G-20 riots (er, I mean meetings) Sept24-25 with Psychotics (er, I mean psychics).

http://www.pittsburghpostgazette.com/pg/09170/978555-455.stm

"It included personal psychic readings for visiting guests by his team of "about six professional experienced psychics" and "a 3-hour complimentary class in LOVE HEALING for the guests because that is what most people really want & what the world needs most."

That and, possibly, some answers about a melting world economy."

9-11 Truthers are a strange bunch - both extreme left and right conspiracy theorists find something in common after all.

They are closely allied with those who think all politicians are shapeshifting aliens from some planet called Zeta-Reticuli.

Where can I find a pdf of this report to print off? Anyone know? I want to pass them out as a joke.

Yep. Here is proof about what Bush and McCain really are! Its shocking!

http://www.weeklyworldinquisitor.com/McCain-Bush_lizard_alien.html

"McCain, Bush are shape-shifting alien
President and Republican candidate are one and the same - a shape-shifting alien lizard creature, claim Washington insiders
By Dick Kennedy, UFO Correspondent

President George W Bush and John McCain are one and the same - a shapeshifting lizard alien from the Zeta Reticuli star system.

The revelations come from an insider from Bush's own staff. Speaking on condition of anonymity, Mr X said he could no longer stand the horrific sights to which he was subject as the alien being shifted from one hideous form to another.

"There's a lot of credibility to these accusations, as the two 'men' are rarely seen in the same place," said one Washington insider. "And when they are, I'm told that the 'Bush' is actually one of the many doubles the President uses for less-important speaking engagements."

Others inside the Beltway have long suspected that the President might be from another planet. According to one Congressman, the Bush-McCain creature's extraterrestrial origins were betrayed in a number of ways.

"The first clue that Bush was an alien was his trouble with even simple English phrases," he said. "According to briefings I've received from the CIA and NASA, language is an alien's weak point. And McCain has similar problems. Sometimes you think he's just not going to get to the end of the sentence."

There is also Bush's bizarre empathy with 'illegal aliens' - with proposed amnesties, citizenship programs and guest worker schemes. "You and I know that 'illegal alien' means Mexican," said the Congressman, "but Bush gets easily confused."

Political experts say that Bush is just morphing his form to get around the two-term limit imposed by the 22nd Amendment. "He hasn't finished with the country yet," said Mr X. "This way, he gets to continue the same policies while convincing people he stands for something new."

The Congressman added: "It's possible that all the neocons - not just Bush-McCain - are shape-shifting lizards and that there aren't nearly so many of them as people think."

PDF of Hurt Feelings Report:

http://www.hollyviagorski.com/files/hurt-feelings-report.pdf

"9-11 Truthers are a strange bunch - both extreme left and right conspiracy theorists find something in common after all.
"Posted by: Anonymous at June 19, 2009 11:44 AM"

Yeah, they're all morons.

The "truthers" used to say "we just want people to THINK about it!"; but then, people DID think about their "truth" and realized that it made NO BLOODY SENSE!

I want to second Karin's suggestion above about the Contreras letter. It's counter-moonbattery of the highest level! Here's a link directly to the petition.

NIH Funds $423,500 Study of Why Men Don't Like to Use Condoms

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/06/19/nih-funds-study-men-dont-like-use-condoms/

It feels better without it. Send me a check.

Ribbed for her pleasure.

Thanks, Kathleen, and the sig count is up to 93,404 at 12:34, with a goal of 100K that will easily be shot through the roof. Read some of the comments. We are not alone.

Democrats dodge ban on lobbyist donations. The left-wing version of "ethics."

Over 95K now - in less than an hour. This in approx 3 days and the server was down for a good portion of that due to the huge response after Glenn read the full letter on his TV show Wednesday. No, we are definitely not alone!

Thanks, Kathleen! I signed.

Boy that Goldstein is a deep thinker. Such insight, such reasoning ability. Sounds like the great minds of our time, Michael Moore or Rosie O'Donnell, are commenting incognito.

Thanks, Kathleen, for the link.
Love women called Kathleen (first crush, wife, daughter, granddaughter etc)
And my cousin Kathleen tackled world-famous Gerry Adams of Sinn Fein as he came out of Mass in Belfast and said to him about his behaviour on some moral/political question "I knew your mother well, God rest her, and she would be ashamed of you."
Love women called Kathleen

I thought it was a joke, but then you did all go and give the narrative of "how your sissy feelings were hurt" awww.

We, the People, Are Getting Screwed!

This 6+ minute YouTube video is a relative oldie–as in 2 or 3 months–but still very much a goody.

It deals with the ongoing D.C., American, Obamian fiscal disaster although, oddly, it gives Obama a free ride on our economic trainwreck. What’s most chilling is that it pre-dated some of the more recent Washington fiscal madnesses.

In other words, things are much worse in mid-June than they were 3 months ago.

Entitled, “We the People Stimulus Package,” it’s worth a look and a re-look.

Watch it, hear it, and weep. After weeping, Do Something About it!

It arrived as an email with this note:

"This guy’s video on youtube has been so popular that Obama
called him personally. He said that he was very disturbed with the video and
invited him to the White House. Obama also said he wanted the White House to
handle the Press and not to talk about the video or the White House visit.
That’s interesting."

Watch it now. This may be the best six minutes invested in
your future
You may have to turn your Sound Control up some.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeYscnFpEyA

This form reminds me of the yellow "Stress Cards" The Army tried back in the Clinton era.

They were properly handed out....then passed to the right and gathered up....and that was the last anyone ever saw of them!

Hey Goldstain....Where do they grow idiots such as yourself?

in your mom's cooch

karin - thankx for posting that - the server crashed for almost 24 hours after beck put it up, but it's up and running now - did you see her on beck last night? what a woman! unafraid.

Hateful libtards like Ian Golstain are still stuck on Bush.

Do like Casper wellstoned and "move along".

Spineless, clueless, and hypocritical Obomite Jackasses!

LOL LOL !!!!! Man Goldstain you really got me on that. You must be a very smart little BOY.

NOT!!!

This must be high school loser! Now be off with you BOY!!

"...by sitting for 7 min reading my pet goat..."

While the Secret Service made an emergency change of plans to return the President of the United States to the airport. I guess jumping to his feet and running out of the room would have been an example of leadership. The president moves when the Secret Service tells him it's time to move...wait a minute...what am I explaining this for? Sorry. Nevermind.

You're explaining because you're embarrassed Gregory. It was an embarrassing moment for our country. Everyone makes mistakes, including Presidents Dem or Repub, but that was a bad one.

"jumping to his feet and running out of the room" wasn't the only option, although it certainly would have been better than what he did.

If you actually want to try and defend this, he was told of the first plane crash BEFORE he even arrived at the school, but still decided to go ahead with the publicity shoot.

He sat and did nothing after he was told of the SECOND impact. The words used were "America is under attack" and it wasn't by the Secret Service, it was an aide.

Anonymous,

SEN. JOHN KERRY: "I was in the Capitol. We'd just had a meeting -- we'd just come into a leadership meeting in Tom Daschle's office, looking out at the Capitol. And as I came in, Barbara Boxer and Harry Reid were standing there, and we watched the second plane come in to the building. And we shortly thereafter sat down at the table and then we just realized nobody could think, and then boom, right behind us, we saw the cloud of explosion at the Pentagon. And then word came from the White House, they were evacuating, and we were to evacuate, and so we immediately began the evacuation."

For the record, that was roughly 40 minutes of inaction. From the man you ran for president in 2004.

In case math is not your strong point, 40 minutes>7 minutes.

You lose.

"Anonymous at June 19, 2009 5:56 PM"

Yeah! BOOOOSH should have put on his Superman suit, flown up to New York, waved his magic fairy godmother wand and made everything allllll beter!

That's what Hopey McChange would have done!

We all lost evil one.

From the beginning — the report that was issued to Bush stating that Bin Laden was intent on carrying out an attack on US Soil, which had been provided to him a couple of months prior, to his hacking of the anti-terror budget, to his not having met with his anti-terror coordinator.

What you wanted a senator to do about a national attack is curious. That you would even try to divert it that way is quite telling.

As I say. We all make mistakes. This one was just big. Grown ups admit when a mistake is made, they learn from it and move on. Children deny that a mistake was made in the first place.

1993 - The first World Trade Center bombing
1995 - Attempted crashing of plane on White House
1995 - Oklahoma City bombing
1996 - Khobar Towers bombing - Saudi Arabia
1998 - U.S. Embassy bombings Kenya/Tanzania
2000 - USS Cole Bombing - Yemen

Meanwhile Bill Clinton was getting a blowjob from an intern. Yeah, that was pretty embarrasing.

KHarn, anything would have been better. Getting up and out the door? excusing himself to make some calls and get more information, perhaps? Apologizing and stating that affair of national importance were calling him and he needed to leave?

Any of these would have been a great start.

Yes Gregory, it is even more puzzling that Bush didn't get his ass in gear .. seeing as how there had ALREADY BEEN an attempt at the World Trade Center.

As I said, adults try to learn from previous mistakes. Children dent that a mistake was ever made. Just as you all seem intent on doing here.

As for the rest, let's look at where they took place, shall we? Of course, we shoudl always fight against terror whenever and wherever we are able, but what happens in Kenya, Yemen, or Saudi Arabia (where if memory serves most of the 9-11 bombers hailed from) ... That's not part of President of the UNITED STATES main job description. He should be most concerned with what happens here.

You know, where we are. (that's the US in case you forgot)

Marjory Saudi Arabia and Egypt Anon.

adults try to learn from previous mistakes.

I guess the Teleprompter guy must not be an adult then, because he's repeating the same disastrous mistakes of Herbert Hoover and Jimmy Carter.

When in doubt, jump topics.

I'll add it to your "hurt feeling report"

Speaking of hurt feelings, I couldn't help notice the Teleprompter Messiah was whining like a little bitch this week because FoxNews doesn't give him the fawning adoration the other networks do. Poor baby!

The only dumb shit liberal defence....Bush Did it!

You liberals are a pathetic bunch.

V these college boy liberals are just plain fucking stupid. There is no point in showing and explaining the facts. It's hard for them to understand do to the lack of common sense.

Fox is the only News I can half way believe in, that is until they start supporting this empty suite we call a president.

THE KING HAS NO CLOTHES!!!!!!

I don't cite facts to refute anonymous trolls who live in fantasyland. I cite facts to help thinking people; conservatives who can use them in other situations, and non-conservatives who are receptive to facts and logic.

It is hilarious, though. The media pounded Bush day in and day out and he never complained. (Show me a quote where Bush whined about his coverage.) One network fails to worship the Teleprompter Messiah, and he whines like a table saw.

Bush didn't have time to cry he was to busy being a man and a president protecting our nation.

Obama is a false prophet to the lefty trolls.

Sotomayor quits women-only club under GOP fire, continues to justify self

Bush was busy attacking the wrong country and getting pwned on 9/11

Sorry to backtrack...But hopefully,interesting and condensed THOTS to end the last Open Thread.

(THREADBARE—[Postscript]…)

Go ahead—tax my Shiraz. I don’t give a crap (my transparency)! Those who might care however, are the industrious growers of, arguably, some of the finest wine on earth, my fellow citizens in the southeastern quadrant of Washington--the Evergreen State. In the last decade the small vintner business in our Columbia Valley has grown exponentially to the point where it has benefited nearly everyone in our area. Their contribution to the tax base, surrounding businesses, workers, visitors, et al, has inexorably revived this part of our state. This ‘insanity tax’ (as opposed to ‘conservative budgetry’) will decimate these small dedicated independent business owners--and one-fourth of our state--like an herbicide from hell. A disparate and convicting irony is, that Seattle liberal proponents of this kind of ‘Wellstone Tax Theology’, live in the heart of downtown Seattle, known as (believe it or not) “Capitol Hill”, and they thwart anything small-business (unless its theirs), anything not tie-dyed, tattooed, or trans-gendered, and anything on the rural conservative eastern half of their own state.

THOTS:

G of Y’s sensible consumption tax, aside from being an obligatory ‘pay as you go’ tax, would encourage those with money, who are definitively greater givers, to see any excess spending as donative. This idea is lost on non-charitable givers but is known to those of us who care. People who feel blessed want to, and feel obligated to, give back in every aspect of their lives. This encourages giving.

Kevin R’s “The provider of services and the money it requires….” This operational conjunct might work in a rational, law abiding, common sense society, but ‘Kelly-porn-ya’ is broke because they are NONE of the above. God bless Mexicans and God bless immigration, but La Rasa and its racially rapacious contingent of gangbangers have invaded and decimated California’s hospitals and emergency wards like a virus. Illegal immigrants have ‘freely’ inundated a once-wonderful school system while dumbfounding logic. And these ‘non-citizen-bleeders’ have cut their way into our lives, and consequently, have bled the state prison system dry.

Ian Goldstein (1)…Contemporary Jews in America have mortgaged their soul to Democrats and against Israel. Their (your?) politics of ‘Illusion of Central Purpose’ essentially negate God! My Q: Is God alive, or his He (he/she/it/LGBT ) a figment of Americas’ imagination? PS…Did you find that elusive pickle in that awesome secretive market just off La Cienega, or are you still looking, like the lib-sacrificial ‘law-type’ sheeple, on Fairfax Ave? (2)…You are the ‘bred-essence’ of today’s liberal. To explain: You cannot argue, you cannot discuss, you cannot debate—it’s all about denial, defiance, and denigration. Notice your post: No observation of the point, no acceptance of a view, no consideration of an opinion, only a judgmental and simplistic devaluation of either the opponent, or their point of view--the essence of liberalism. The Constitution was written AGAINST you.
To Toast’d n’ WellStoned: AKA ‘Neville-headed’ namby-pamby. Smoke some more DNA-enhanced Maui Sensimillan—you’re a vaporous figment who sells out our American unity. PLEASE stay on this site…..You’re proving to political inquisitors that the left sucks! You stray from topic and insult others, you’re willing to Socratically convolute logic to satisfy your personal goals (at honesty's expense), and, most of what you say refers to the past--which refers to Ghosts.

Look its another college BOY lefty troll!!

Jake What do you mean he attacked the wrong country for the 9/11 attacks.

Think back, Jakeass. It was Bill Clinton that had the chance to change the face of history by killing Osama Ben Laden and his Al Qaeda henchmen, but in true liberal chicken shit form he chickened out. Do you remeber that or were you still an infant at that time?

Ben Laden was in Afghanistan at the time you twit.

feelings like when you whiners wanted David Letterman fired for hurting your feelings? lol losers. Bush and Cheney embarrassed us on 9/11, they had a report saying Bin Laden was going to attack and they did jackshit. Bush showed leadership on 9/11 by sitting for 7 min reading my pet goat after he was told the country was under attack, he just sat there like Forrest Gump and pissed his self.

Posted by: Ian Goldstein ( Liberal Crybaby )at June 19, 2009 10:59 AM
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I would laugh at your pitiful comment if it wasn't so sad. You babies have been WHINING, CRYING, and THROWING TANTRUMMS for EIGHT YEARS!

Amazingly enough YOU are still CRYING about an event that happend SEVEN years ago just like a little child who didn't get his sippy cup.

Bush had the courage and the dicipline to make a tough choice unlike the half wit who is currently in charge who still thinks he can vote present when the tough decision need to be made.

You babies spent EIGHT years trying to "catch" Bush in a lie but have completly IGNORED the Liar in Chief's criminal activity and daily lies!

Go back to your fantasy land you idiot!

"That's not part of President of the UNITED STATES main job description. He should be most concerned with what happens here.

Posted by: Anonymous at June 19, 2009 6:25 PM
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Since you seem to be pretty CONFUSED about the "job description" of the president:

The Oath of office: "I do solemnly swear that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

According to Article II, Section 2, the President shall:

be the Commander-in-Chief of the armed services
have the power to grant reprieves and pardons
have the power to make treaties (with concurrence of the Senate) appoint Ambassadors, Supreme Court judges, and all other Officers of the United States appoint vacancies that may occur during the recess of the Senate receive Ambassadors and other public Ministers care that the laws be faithfully executedAdditionally, the President shall recommend to Congress measures for their consideration (propose a bill) approve or veto every Congressional bill (vetoes may be over-ridden)

As COMANDER IN CHIEF of the military he is required to DEFEND the nation and it's interests YOU MORNN!!

GO open a book or at least learn how to read or keep your mouth shut when you HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT!!!

The lying criminal who most recently took the aformentioned oath is probably as stupid as you are.

All this sensitivity poppycock bull crap i mean its getting so rediculous and silly

I am putting this out for the PMO now
Also "alistair" fill one of these out as soon as you stop crying.

actually michelle 9/11 was 8 years ago not 7. You're smart.

RE: Posted by: mpgrunt787 at June 19, 2009 9:20 PM

Nice Tag!! Assist, Protect, Defend!!

Carry on.....

We should'a had forms like this in basic. It would've been hilarious! The drill Sargents handing them out and saying sarcastic comments like "we wouldn't want to hurt your feelings." It would've been gold if some moron actually filled the thing out.

If I ever make Drill Sargent(or Sargent for that matter), I'm making copies of this form and handing them out to all my privates.

Don't worry private, a little PT will make you for get that nasty comment.

In the news, something good happened. A man who abandoned his 3-year old and strangled his wife is brought to justice
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8110520.stm

RE: Posted by: conservativeteen at June 19, 2009 11:06 PM

CT, I take it they eliminated the "Stress Cards" when you did BCT / AIT?

I hope so, anyway. It was a bad idea in the mid-90's, and it's still a bad idea....

Gay Pride Rights Week and a Dearth of Pride

As Gay Rights Week approaches in N.Y.C., it only seems respectful and supremely PC to devote regular articles to homosexuals, gays, lesbians, bi-sexuals, trans-sexuals, tri-sexuals, gerbil afficionados, cross dressers, and NAMBLA predators.

And what more ironically appropriate day to begin this week-long annual festival of all things gay than Father’s Day weekend?

This promises to be a Big Apple biggie for the gaysters. The year 2009 is the 40th anniversary of the Stonewall Riots in N.Y.C.’s Greenwich Village, those iconic riots during which homosexuals exited that gay bar in droves when cops raided the place.

Joined by hundreds of non-bar hopping gays and many who no doubt exited their closets that night, they pelted police with beer bottles, rocks, and whatever else was handy and launched the Gay Revolution.

They seem to be winning that revolution four decades later so this is no time to be slackers and sluff off and rest on their multicolored laurels or fail to display the multicolored gay pride flag:

It will be tough for the New York contingent to out-do their Boston counterparts who pre-empted them last month, although I’m certain they’ll give it their best shot. Planned are such awesome doings in the city and environs as “PRIDEfest,” a “Pride Rally,” “Rapture: A Womens Dance,” “The March,” and the grand finale, “The Dance on the Pier:” http://gaytravel.about.com/od/partiesevents/qt/NYC_Pride.htm.

A jolly good, prideful, gay ol’ time should be had by all but, as ambitious as all those pride events are, it’s hard to imagine their besting Boston. The Boston debacle has been the subject of various pieces on this site.

(See “Various Perversions,” http://gaytravel.about.com/od/partiesevents/qt/NYC_Pride.htm, and “Gay News,” http://www.genelalor.com/blog1/?p=1057, and dozens of other gay outings here.)

Those Bostonian gays actually outdid themselves with this year’s Gay Prom at City Hall when they dropped any pretense . . .

(Read the rest at http://genelalor.com)

Barbara Boxer = Dr Evil

"Anonymous at June 19, 2009 6:15 PM"

"Do anything" has always been the lefties' battle cry. Do ANYTHING like your moronic SYMBOLIC protests.
Come on, little boy, tell us what YOU would have done. I mean AFTER you peed your pants!

the wind-down of the honeymoonfor the naive socialist jackass

From Airstrip One, the country that thinks plants with sharp leaves should be banned as a danger to public health, comes the tale of the Post Office that refuses to deliver mail because a whining baby of a delivery woman was scratched on the hand by a six month old kitten.

For Set's sake, wear a pair of gloves, y'dowzy bint!

RE: Posted by: V the K at June 20, 2009 7:40 AM

Elly the Kitten related to Viking the Kitten?

You know who I really feel bad for? The postwoman's supervisor. Could you imagine having to write up that 'work related injury', file all the paperwork, and then sign your name to that 'animal attack' form letter?

that is one cute kittie. Sometimes you just can't see the rage within.

Al Sharpton is back in the game!!!!!

V K, you said Obama's "repeating the same disastrous mistakes of Herbert Hoover and Jimmy Carter". Aside from the mess that Carter inherited, what exact mistakes are you referring to?

From Hoover... massive government spending and economic regulation with high taxes to follow. Policies which FDR continued that extended the Depression seven years.

From Carter... naivete abroad, appeasement, cowardice, that led to Soviet expansion in Angola, Nicaragua, and El Salvador. That led to the Iranian revolution and the ensuing three decades of Islamist terrorism and expansionism. Not to mention his policies of shutting down domestic energy development and pushing crap and trade... both of which weaken our economy and make us more dependent on foreign supplies of energy.

Question for the posters here, what position should America be taking on the protests in Iran?

Since the Mullahs are going to slam the USA and propagandize against us no matter what we do, there is no Earthly reason not to speak out strongly in favor of the people; unless the Teleprompter Messiah really is on the side of the tyrants which, given his history, seems likely. He's very comfortable with foreign tyrants who hate the USA like he does (Chavez, Ortega, Ahmadinejihad.)

There should also be covert aid to anti-government groups in Iran. And Israel should be supported in any action it takes to defend itself from Iranian nuclear weapons. (Why does Chairman Zero support nuclear power for the mullahs, but not for Americans?)

Question for the posters here, what position should America be taking on the protests in Iran?

Everything short of military support. This is an opportunity to weaken the mullahs that we haven't seen in years and may not see again anytime soon if it fails.

At the very least, President Teleprompter could give the protesters some moral support. Unfortunately, it looks as if he's voting "present" on this one.

V,ok, but butting out seems like the only reasonable position to take at this time. After our interference in 1953, the animosity that followed created a relationship that still has consequences. It is clear, based on the Twitter posts that the Iranian protesters know we stand with them. It is clear that some Republicans and Democrats would rather use this as a political tool to oppose President Obama, rather than offer anything relevant to what is happening. We as a country have an ugly history when meddling in other countries Governments. Don't get me wrong, Ahmadinejihad is a half-wit at best, but is it right for us to interfere? Further, Mousavi is only a slight improvement. Sending in any aid,I feel is a mistake, as it may only empower the Supreme Leader's hardline stance. It is touchy, but I think using the oppression of the Iranian people as a tool is ineffective. I guess, as a people we need to get our Green on.

Question for the posters here, what position should America be taking on the protests in Iran?

Obama's approach so far has probably been, when all is said and done, the right approach, for now. There could have been great benefit in standing behind the protesters, and, of course, our heritage is and should be supporting freedom. But alls we need is for the mullahs to be able to say "see! see! see! Zionist-American plot!!". Staying on the sidelines has its costs, but if this Iranian protest thing is going to work, it has to stand on its own two feet - they have to do it, for themselves. They have to want it, and so far they seem to. So, I'm going to give the naive socialist jackass a B+ up to today, on this.

That said, it is time to get in the game. The next 2-3 days will be super-critical. That nascent protest movement now needs support. Like the French stepped up to the plate when we needed it way back when, we need to step up to the plate now and get on the right side of history. It is time for Obama to definitively come out in favor of the protesters and help them however he can.

I think we get one and only this one chance to end up with a world of which the key dynamic is not a bunch of psychopathic theocrats waiting for the apocalypse in charge of a nuclear arsenal. Time to take sides.

So that's where I stand - so far, not so bad, going foward, time to shift out of neutral.

In the Age of Obama

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,526972,00.html

Dissent=Terrorism

The thing from 1953 that's brought us so much grief since wasn't "supporting the protesters" so much as installing our own tyrant to support our interests. Of course there's that devil you know vs the devil you don't thing, but we DO know a lot about the devil we have, and supporting the protestors in replacing him can't but help. Sometimes maybe we just need to trust other peoples in the world a little bit to know what they need. At best we could come out with a heartfelt ally in the region, at worst, well, what could be worse than what we already have?

Mega, well said.Congress made their position clear, voting 405-1 condemning the violence, with only Ron Paul voting against it. I agree whole heartedly that the position the Iranian people are in, has to be their stand. I will also agree, Obama's approach is good for now, and if we are seen as meddling it further distances any possible relationship we could have with very cultured Middle Eastern country.Wow, Mega we are pretty close here. As I said, the Iranian protesters know that the American people are with them.

Mega, you may agree with Dennis Kucinich speaking on the issue with Fox.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R25FokfTY28

. But alls we need is for the mullahs to be able to say "see! see! see! Zionist-American plot!!"

Um, they're saying that anyway. All we're doing by being silent is showing the Iranian people we don't give a damn about them.

V, I don't know if you are on Twitter, but the Iranians know very well where Americans stand.If we are perceived as "stuffing the ballot box" after the fact then we are walking a tight rope. I have never been to Iran, but from what I have been told by friends who have, the Western expression of dissent,among other things is embraced, and that is being demonstrated. Mega is correct in saying the actions of Iranians has to stand on it's own two feet. Being mere miles from Dearborn,Mi. I can say from experience that American-Iranians here recognize the support of Americans abroad. I hope that we can someday move past the hostage crisis that both Carter and Reagan solved and have an another ally in the region. That said, we have that in the people of Iran.

Borat Versus Baron or, Crossing the Long Gay Line

(Second in a series in recognition of New York City’s “Gay Pride Week”)

You really shouldn’t upset homosexuals. They tend to cry and try to hit their upsetters with their beaded purses stuffed with their sex toys or strangle them with their feather boas or slash them with their bangles, and that can sting!

Sacha Baron Cohen has their panties all in a twist with his new flick, Bruno, which incidentally is the name of my daughter’s dog.

Borat, Cohen’s previous entry into the world of grossly offensive movie comedy, was just fine and dandy with the gay community and met with their approval with its overt anti-American depictions of blue- and white-collar people, as well as virtually every other entity on the planet.

The outrageousness of the sexist, racist, anti-Semitic, anti-American, anti-Islamic Borat: Cultural Learnings of America for Make Benefit Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan lay in its all-encompassing satirical abuse. Although almost all Arab countries banned it, no single group carried on and protested with anywhere near the vehemence of homosexuals protesting Baron.

But, dare to satirize gay boys and their nails come out, their hypocrisy is exposed, and they begin wielding their chains and those deadly purses. Not that they would ever succeed in utilizing them as weapons. A simple, “BOO!” would send them scattering back into their closets or back to the arms of their boyfriends who would console them with sweet nothings.

However, like MacArthur, they would soon return with blazing purses, chains, and boas after their initial perturbations and soothing and after gathering the protection of their pink armies. We are the future, they believe, and Bruno’s audacity in ridiculing them and their “lifestyle” will not be tolerated. Everyone else may be abused but not us!

There was Something About Mary and there is something about Bruno and they’re way different somethings, especially to swishers. (With apologies to Nick Swisher of the New York Yankees who seems anything but a gay swisher.)

The essential problem with the yet-to-be released Bruno is that it’s “a mockery” of homosexuals and that it’s “problematic” to gays, according to a Fox News Report.

That report goes on to say, “The only ‘ethnic’ group safe to poke fun at seeming to be straight, white, 30-something males. . . [White males] are the target where no one will ever cry foul if you laugh at them. It’s only when we get into other minority groups that there’s a line there.”

“I can call my sister a tramp — but you can’t,” says one gay, . . .

(Read the rest at http://genelalor.com)

V, it's true that the thugocrats in Iran are going through the motions and saying it's a US plot. But that's just going through the motions. It's obvious worldwide, including inside Iran, that this is not a US-driven event, and hence is truly an indigenous rising up. That gives the Iranian kids tremendous moral authority, and conversely, the thugocrats' legitimacy has been completely destroyed.

It wouldn't have been my first choice for the US to be so passive, but Obama's inability to take a stand on anything seems to have inadvertently imbued the Iranian protesters with an authenticity that I think will be quite valuable if it pans out.

Note however that I said above that NOW, Obama needs to get in the game. If Obama doesn't step up in the next day, I think we will be looking at a diplomatic disaster in terms of perceived American weakness.

Also, I do not think this was a "brilliant", "smart", "clever" or "sophisticated" or "nuanced" strategy on Obama's part. I simply think that Obama's paralytic inability to take a difficult stand and get engaged with the battle has resulted - so far - in a situation that has upside. But not for long. Obama should get out there right now and show some American willingness to take a risk by standing with the brave people who might well lose. Or put another way, it's time to man up. Even if so far not manning up has worked out OK.

Casper what do you mean that Carter had a hand in solving the hostage crisis? It was because of Reagan they let the hostages go. The Iranian students were told by negotiators that Reagan would not negotiate with them and they knew this. If anything Carter extended the hostages stay.

Stop making shit up.

You want to move past this yet you can't get past Bush.

People getting bloodied on the streets of Teheran, and where is the Teleprompter Messiah? Buying ice cream for his dog.

Its hilarious Berlet98 that both you and Fox completely fail to see the irony in Baron and think that it is gay bashing, when in fact it is about homophobia in this country.

That you embrace it as gay bashing is telling. Both of your bigotry and your idiocy.

"...both Carter and Reagan solved"
Shitstone

My gawd did someone actually teach you that crap or did you make it up all by yourself?

Oh - wait - Dave already called you out on that lie.

Never mind.

Do you forget that most of us here were actually alive back then and remember the true history rather than your made up crap? Was that also you whta emntion stuff from 1953? How ols were you then, Shitstone? You personally remember that, too, do you?

You may continue making an ass of yourself, now, dipshit.

Stupid lefty trolls like to change history around so they can look good.

They don't realise how infantile they look.

Ghost, what Dave says is true. You can't overlook the fact that Carter had American hostages held for what? 444 days? The hostages were let go on inauguration day. But, thank you for your reasoned discussion on Iran. I also follow the Iranian situation, mainly at Faithfreedom.org, and I know much of the Iranian people are allied with the U.S.

Ahh, a reasoned discussion turns ugly. Why am I not surprised? Thanks to the few that can actually debate/converse. It is not rewriting history, it is noting that both Presidents, as well as both parties worked to see the release of the hostages. Mega, V, Karin thx for the honest and open discussion. I suppose we can let the let children play now. Name calling in 3,2,1

You are not as intelligent as you let out to be Casper.

Grow some skin!

You are still making shit up. The Iranian students were afraid of Reagan because all along his campaign during that time he made it clear that he would not negotiate because they were, in his eyes, terrorist.

How did this discussion turn ugly? Is it because people around here have enough sense and smarts to pick what is bullshit and what is not?

actually michelle 9/11 was 8 years ago not 7. You're smart.

Posted by: Tommyland at June 19, 2009 9:50 PM
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Was it "smart" when Biden admited that their will be abuse? Or when he talked about FDR using a TV adress before it existed? Or mybye when he didn't have the phone number of the WEBSTIE?

Maybe it was "smart" when Odumbo talked about visiting 57 states? Or when he saw dead veterans? How about when he gave DVD's to britans PM from the wrong region? Perhaps it was "smart" to break the law HE wrote when he fired IG's?

YES... LET'S TALK about SMART!!

So I got the actual length of time wrong in my diatribe. Whoop de do!

Your Idiot Marxist child king has ABSOLUTELY no clue what he is doing, no idea what the contitution says, and certainly no ability to tell the truth or be HONEST about anything.

HE can't even function without his little teleprompter helping him. Nobody here or anywhere else needs one as bad as he does.

Get a clue before you talk to me about MISTAKES!

Dave, you are a tool.Changing the discourse of what was a good conversation between a liberal, and few conservatives is not only ineffective, but childish. The Iranian people get it, America is with them. We need to adhere to the current policy of allowing this to take place without intervening. Deciding that because Ronald Reagan is some God to you, does not take anything away from the efforts that Jimmy Carter attempted. Why do you think I noted both of them? Again, thank you Mega, V, and Karin for not taking part in disagreeing with me simply because we have different ideologies. The Iranian protesters deserve our support, from both the left and right.

Just coming here Casper makes you a TOOL. You have a disease and it's called liberalism, so don't lecture me.

NO No No.....I have only ONE GOD in my life and in my heart and he is the one up above. I do not worship the king with no clothes, Obama, like you frosty mouth idiots do.

I like how you suck up to everyone.

"I like how you suck up to everyone."
Really? Because I am mature enough to recognize good discussion? Dave, you have to realize that left is not going away, and failing to have any discussion with the opposition on policy or current events solves nothing. A shared view on the Iranian's that differed slightly provides a moment of clarity on where both the left and right stand. As a people, providing our support of the protesters shows a helluva lot more than our Government intervening. You suggested I get thicker skin, I suggest you get a brain.

Got one Casper and it works better that yours.

Our "discussion" was about Reagen and his affect on the hostage release not about the protests going on now which I fully support. Can you not discuss two topics at once with out forgetting which topic you are discussing it with?

Keep sucking up Casper you are making yourself a wonderful TOOL.

Come on, Dave and Ghost. There is something going on here that's bigger than us. To recognize that is really the American way, isn't it? Please stop calling each other tools and at least come together on what we know:

Young Iranian people want FREEDOM. This is fact demonstrated by countless open letters and petitions to US presidents over the YEARS. I've been reading them for all those years. Now, where do we go from here? Right and Left really can agree on human rights and freedom, can't we?

Karin, well put. Being mere miles from Dearborn,Mi., in restaurants and markets this being discussed with deep concern.I didn't want to get into a tit for tat after a good exchange, but it happens. What the world sees going on is horrific, and I can't imagine what the protesters are going through. I applaud them, and hope that we as people are sending a vote of support and sympathies to them.

Hey. On video, they showed an Iranian girl getting shot right in front of her father. Obama made his lame statement and then a half hour later he goes to get an ice cream cone.

Fuck him, we're on the side of freedom.

I am in solidarity with the Iranian people and hope that get the freedom that they deserve. Obama needs to get tough and I'm afraid he doesn't have the balls.

This President won't speak for me or any of you. The king has no clothes.

Entertaining deranged moonbat rant on huffingtonpost: events in Iran show that American Republicans want to have a theocracy, or something

Good read mega. We already know the lefts agenda and it shows. Who ever wrote this is deranged.

Obama needs to get tough and I'm afraid he doesn't have the balls.
Posted by: Dave at June 20, 2009 7:16 PM

LOL! Dave!!!! Obama - balls... in the same sentence! LOL!!!!!!!!

You did that on purpose - you're killing me here!

Happy Father’s Day, Alec and Johnny!

Sunday, June 21st is Father’s Day, a day devoted to America’s fathers, young and old, living or passed to their reward.

On this auspicious occasion, I thought it apt to mention two of the nation’s most unusual daddies, actor, comedian, political activist, arch-leftist, Alec Rae Baldwin III, 2007’s Dad of the Year, and 2008’s Pop of the Year, none other than former North Carolina Senator John Reid Edwards who, sing hallelujah! is mulling a comeback!

It’s two years old now and Alec Baldwin’s daughter, Ireland, is now 13 or 14 but the recording of his vicious, threatening diatribe delivered to a child lives on forever in the annals of fatherhood: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8J0-ZatDHug.

The nasty harangue is nothing shy of verbal child abuse and the only reason she is identified above as “now 13 or 14″ is because her less-than-doting dad didn’t even seem to know her age when he called Ireland to rip into her for not making herself available for his loving calls.

Baldwin has since repented unleashing that string of epithets against his own daughter, suggesting he was pushed to the breaking point by estranged wife, Kim Bassinger, although he was fully aware he was leaving his message on his daughter’s voice mail.

He has fully recovered; no word on Ireland’s recovery, if any.

Not quite so baby-faced anymore, Johnny Edwards, was the unanimous pick in 2007 not because of his siring four children within the bounds of marriage to wife, Elizabeth, but to knocking up, to use Dirty Dave Letterman’s expression, former campaign worker, Rielle Hunter.

Putting the ultimate kibosh on his already-moribund presidential effort, poor Senator Edwards, he of the “two America’s” shtick, was caught almost literally with his johnny-pants down . . .

(Read the rest at http://genelalor.com)

A mural on an elementary school in (where else?) Berkeley, celebrates an ideology that murdered over 200,000,000 people and counting.

I can't print the form. I'm pissed. I wanted to take a few to work and give them to HR. It just won't print. Dammit.

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B I G N E W S

Obama FIRST negative approval index EVER.

-2 as of Sunday morning.

32 % strongly approve
34 % strongly disapprove

link is right effing here, baby

Too late to stop the slide into apologetic socialist dhimmitudinal mediocrity? I guess we'll have to wait and see.

"Dirty Dave Letterman"
Love it.
Good one, Berlet.

Couldnt really fill out the E1 box - since I am deaf. Now that's an insult.
Where's the form to fill out now I feel hurt? Heh!