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The left has a lock on 8 other networks: CNN, MSNBC, CNNHN, ABC, CBS, NBC, PBS, and NPR, and they begrudge the one outlet that gives conservatives some voice.

Do you think they know in their hearts that left liberalism is based on lies, and having even one voice out there that might wake people up to the lies is too dangerous to permit?

I'm sure the Whore of Smellstone can't wait to tbe the Komissar of Truth presiding over the life and death of Bill O'Reilly.

You've hit the nail on the head, Gregory. The liberals want to give the impression that everyone thinks like they do. IOW, they're trying to win the argument through the appearance of consensus rather than through reason. Think of how often they play that hand. "Conservatives are a dying breed, liberals have a mandate." "ALL scientists agree that AGW is happening!" It's a constant bleat coming from their side of the aisle.

I'm sure that moonbats only want FOX news silenced out of their often professed love of freedom of expression.

Consider, also: one of the supposed reasons the "Fairness Doctrine" existed originally was that there was a limited amount of space on the dial for broadcast TV and radio, and thus there was a need for balance to make sure one political side didn't dominate the airwaves.

(I'm not saying I agree with it, just saying that's what its proponents claimed.)

However, FOX is a cable channel. It is not broadcast, and thus would not have been covered by the Fairness Doctrine even if that law was still in effect. Thus, they can't even make the claim that this is about real "fairness," since FOX isn't using up any valuable broadcast channel space.

What this leftist turd "marshall" is saying is that he flat-out wants government control over opposing viewpoints. He's a fascist, nothing more. And he's not alone... I've heard this opinion from leftists far too often to count. They don't want freedom of speech unless it agrees with them.

Of course, the great irony is that a political side DOES dominate the airwaves, and it's the left that dominates, not the right (except on talk radio, where ideas count for something).

And what makes this butt biscuit think that somehow we all go and watch the channels we don't watch now??????

Just like the Iranians are broadcasting to the world, so would we. There are so many ways to propagate news and facts now they STILL won't get what they want - a total monopoly.

It does seem as though the left has quite a prediliction for projection. They scream about Americans trying to silence them, then want to silence Fox News and talk radio. Where are the Americans who are trying to silence liberal news media? I've never heard anyone advocate this.

Lots of Americans engage in Schadenfreude at the economic travails of the liberal media, sure, but no one advocates silencing them.

What I find funny is that FOXNews held the ratings lead for a few years (Bush era) and many attributed it to a Republican in power. Now, we have Demo-crooks in full control yet FOXNews STILL holds the ratings lead.

This tells me that we, as conservatives (and clearly the only ones free of the liberal disease), are more vocal and, therefore, more active in politics. This goes hand-in-hand with having a far greater depth of knowledge/understanding of the world around us.

The left-wing libtards are only vocal when they want handouts or to have things "silenced" because they don't agree with their blantly retarded view.

They "support" free speech by supressing conservative views because they dissent from the views of those on the left... WTF?

There's a reason why conservatives lean to the right... because it's right (ie, correct).

"I don't need to watch them in order to know what they're saying. I only need to log on to DU. Same with Free Republic. I've never once been over to their site, yet I know all about them."

The leftist mindset. Always good for a chuckle.

Looks like someone forgot to deny the leftist desire to reinstate the Fairness Doctrine. That was the talking point during the election, right?

When the left wing trolls show up, I'd like to pose a question. Among the other networks --- ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, PBS, MSNBC --- is there any editorial disagreement on the following issues:

1. Abortion

2. Opposition to conservative judges/support for judicial activism

3. Preference for tax increases over spending cuts.

4. Preference for increased social spending and decreased military spending.

5. Gun control

6. Support for government-provided health care.

7. Belief in human-caused global warming and government regulation of carbon emissions to stop it.

8. Affirmative action

Since all other networks are in lockstep on all those issues, how can you possibly claim that FoxNews is a threat to you; much less, how can you preposterously claim the major news media have a conservative bias?

Over at the DU, they enjoy making up stories and telling them to each other about how they made a big stink in some waiting room, demanding that the channel be changed off of "that propoganda." The best stories will often include a conversion of a conservative person (freeper) on the spot; or a round of cheering applause.

It's embarassingly pathetic.

Why waste your time, Karin? The primate enclosure at the zoo has a higher level of discourse.

If there's one thing I believe about liberals, it's that they can make a big stink. Their able to read the reactions of others to their antics, OTOH, usually leaves a lot to be desired.

June 30, 2009, Today's Official Proclamation from the TOTUS:

"There is no room in Oceania, um, ah, I mean America, for the likes of Fox News. From heceforth, the Ministry of Truth and Rehabilitation shall implement the fairness doctrine to protect the sheeple, um, ah, I mean, people, of the United States from domestic terrorists and right-wing hate mongers."

"If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear."
George Orwell.

Gregory:
You have broken through with your points of identification. (Yardale's Law)
It is now time to condense them into a one word list e.g.

Current media are lock step on:
1. Guns
2. Health
3. Military
4. Abortion
5. Environment
6. Taxation
7. Police
8. Religion
9. Minorities
10.Dissent

Over to you for polishing.

This person's comment is clearly not all that informed. The fairness doctrine will have no effect on Fox News at all. If anything, it guarantees that Fox will continue, as The Fairness doctrine is all about making sure opposing viewpoints are heard.

Much obliged, Jim.

Correction: the Fairness Doctrine if reinstituted as previously implemented would have had no effect on Fox News. Whether any new version would or not remains to be seen.

Recall that at one time contracts used to be legally binding agreements. Things have changed.

When you have to force people to do things your way chances are your way is equal to a puddle of rat piss and you should rethink it. Hear that Mr. Presitwat?

This person's comment is clearly not all that informed. The fairness doctrine will have no effect on Fox News at all. If anything, it guarantees that Fox will continue, as The Fairness doctrine is all about making sure opposing viewpoints are heard.

Is that what you actually think, Larry? You can't possibly be that naive. Or maybe you can... it's sometimes hard to tell with leftists.

The "Fairness Doctrine" is about SUPPRESSING opposing viewpoints. As it was written years ago, true, it would have had no effect on FOX, but largely because cable TV was a novelty and the FD was designed in the era of broadcast TV and radio. The reason so many of you wannabe fascists support the FD is because it would make it next to impossible for people like Limbaugh to stay on the air.

Here's why a new FD would suppress conservative opinion:

1) Stations makes money with Limbaugh and conservative talk radio, but DON'T make money with liberal talk radio (in fact, liberal talk is a massive bomb).
2) Fairness Doctrine requires a "balance." For every Limbaugh, the station would be required to run a show like... Franken (shudder).
3) Franken and others like him make no money for the station. Soon, it becomes too difficult to keep the station going with half of your shows being ratings disasters.
4) The stations decide that it's simply not worth the trouble. They change formats, going Spanish-language or all-sports.
5) Liberals don't have any stations for their talk either, but it doesn't matter, because liberal talk shows weren't successful anyway. They have the regular media... ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, CNN, and the like, much of which gives opinion disguised as news. It's a perfectly logical tradeoff for them... lose a loser, keep your winners, cripple your opponents in the process.

Otto remember when Al Franken was doing his show he would criticize Bush sharply.

But silly liberals CAN silence FOX.

All they have to do is turn off their televisions.

Dumb bastards.

I silenced ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, PBS, & MSNBC years ago.

Fox News's days are numbered. When the Fairness Doctrine is back in force there will be a whole new playing field.

Am I missing something here?

If the Fairness Doctrine mandates equal air time for left and right wing political views, then surely NBC, ABC and every other leftist channel has more to lose than Fox?

Over at the DU, they enjoy making up stories and telling them to each other about how they made a big stink in some waiting room, demanding that the channel be changed off of "that propaganda." The best stories will often include a conversion of a conservative person (freeper) on the spot; or a round of cheering applause.

Posted by: Karin at June 30, 2009 11:24 AM

Haha yeah those are hilarious. They seem to recycle the same scenario over and over again. PJ Gladnick at dummiefunnies mocks the life out of their heroic waiting room stories.

I think we should have the vote on the "Fairness Doctrine" now while we still have a majority in the Supreme court.

If the Fairness Doctrine mandates equal air time for left and right wing political views, then surely NBC, ABC and every other leftist channel has more to lose than Fox?

Ah, but the left claims that those media outlets aren't left-wing. Understand, to the modern liberal:

FOX=fringe right-wing
CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS, PBS=center-right
MSNBC=moderate.

Over the years, I've seen more than a few liberals complain with a straight face that they didn't have any outlets for their viewpoints, that the media was inherently right-wing. Bizarre, granted, but they believed it.

"The "Fairness Doctrine" is about SUPPRESSING opposing viewpoints."

"Fairness Doctrine requires a "balance." For every Limbaugh, the station would be required to run a show like... Franken"

You're confused. You're thinking of the equal time rule, which applies only to candidates and coverage of those candidates.

The Fairness Doctrine (which Obama has stated he has no intention of re-imposing) is about trying to be fair and balanced in the representation of political or controversial topics.

The FCC has said that they only watch to make sure networks comply with the spirit of the law.

"As it was written years ago, true, it would have had no effect on FOX, but largely because cable TV was a novelty"

It would still have no effect today. Neither the equal time rule, nor the fairness doctrine will have any effect on fox news. If anyone tried, I would be right there with you making noise in the streets about it.

And for the record "years ago" equates to 1949 in this case. Just a little before cable tv was even a novelty, but whatever.

"If anyone tried, I would be right there with you making noise in the streets about it.
"Posted by: Anonymous at July 1, 2009 2:14 PM"

No you wouldn't. You can't even say a single word against gays getting STONED TO DEATH by islamists.

Focus KHarn. The subject here is media, the control of it, and your claim that someone is going to shut down Fox because of either the Fairness Doctrine or the equal time rule.

I have plenty to say on other topics, if that's what we're talking about. The whopper that started this one off however is that the liberals are going to use one of the rules above, (which one, Otto seems unsure of) to shut down Fox network.

Please. You always want to jump topics when you're on the ropes.

And yes, I would be right there. I am a huge fan of dissent in government, its the only way to keep politicians honest. I do not like this lock we have oh government at the moment. Neither party should have a stranglehold like this ever.

If anyone tried to shut down Fox, or any network. I'd be right there with you.