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Just for info. Dr. George Tiller, late term abortion provider was shot and killed at church at approximately 1000 hours CDT.
www.ksn.com for details.

Abortion Doctor Gunned Down at Kansas Church, Suspect in Custody. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,523581,00.html

Associated Press: Kansas Police Have Tiller Murder Suspect in Custody

Major baby killing liberal bites the dirt!

He had too much dirt on Kathleen Sebelius, that's how it works in the Democratic party...

Well George, you murdering baby killing POS, evidently you believe in God, heaven and hell. Wherever it is you ended up I hope the souls of those poor helpless infants that you butchered haunt your soul for eternity!
You deserve to die!

Oh, now those are some pro-life comments.The man was gunned down at his Church, and you say he deserved it? What does the shooter deserve? A flying monkey right badge of honor? You can't claim to be pro-life and applaud the murder of this doctor

Mayor Bloomberg and the Impertinence of Probing Questions

Serving as mayor of New York City has been called the second toughest job in the country, second only to the presidency.

That description of the Big Apple before it was the Big Apple was coined forty years ago by then-mayor John Lindsay, probably the city’s second-worst mayor in the twentieth century after Jimmy Walker.

Oddly for such a tough job, people seem to fight like hell to set up residence in Gracie Mansion. The current mayor, Michael Bloomberg, has declined to live there for reasons of his own, probably because it would be beneath his dignity.

A lifelong Democrat, zillionaire Bloomberg switched parties in 2001 and ran as a Republican, defeating the hapless Mark Green to succeed Rudy Giuliani, one of the best mayors in the city’s history. The new mayor effectively bought the mayoralty, the only way a candidate with an “R” after his name could hope to win in today’s NYC.

Giuliani was legally prohibited from running again due to New York’s term limits law. Such legalities posed no obstacles to Bloomberg.

Bloomberg was as much a Republican as Arlen Spector . . .

(Read the rest at http://genelalor.com)

Have to agree with Wellstone

Air, thank you.

Ghost I'm going to agree with you as well. I don't believe in abortion nor do I believe in murder. "thow shalt not kill" works both ways here people. It's up to the creator to determine his fate not a pissed off anti abortionist.

Well, George and Shooter, thank you for putting on public display how disturbing the right-wing religious fanaticals of this country really are.

You cannot argue for the "sanctity of life" and be "PRO-LIFE" and then applaud when a man who has broken no laws is gunned-down in cold blood on his way to worship God. Absolutely disgusting.

Buckeye State proves the point that the people who are happiest about Tiller's murder are the pro-abortion left. They are just creaming over all the fingerpointing and obnoxiousness they get to display now. He didn't even wait until the corpse was cold before waving the bloody shirt in support of his agenda.

Actually, V, I was responding to the claims of two people who were celebrating another's murder.

A man was killed.

Let's not forget that.

A man was killed, in cold-blood, based on his occupation/what he did/etc. He had done no wrong, he had broken no laws.

A man was killed.

And it's disgusting. This should not be in dispute. I think we can find common ground in finding this at the outer limits of moral reprehensibility.

Dave, I thank you as well.I understand they now have the shooter in custody, and even as an atheist I hope his confession is not a mockery of the religion many of you have faith in. Put him in front of a court, give him a fair trial, and when, if guilty...prosecute. It is actions like these that there is no defense for. Like many of you,I disagree with many of the laws,but work to change them, don't pull this nonsense.

Oh, and Buckeye, careful around here. These cats have claws. I am certainly your ally around here.

I agree with Ghost.

Please don't hand me that lib BS about how 'killing is killing' and how can I be pro-life and still have no issue with this late-term abortionist's killing.
I'm pro-life but I would have planted one between Hitler's eyes; Stalin's, Mao's, Pol Pot's or Guevara's as well! Wouldn't you?
Anyone that can dismember a helpless infant in childbirth, repeatedly and for $$$ deserves to die. Explain the difference to me between late-term abortion and Auschwitz!
You can call it murder, I call it justice.

As a Christian, reading that Dr. George Tiller was gunned down is totally tragic! Hundreds of thousands, if not millions of babies are saved yearly by multitudes of caring people, blessed churches, and dedicated organizations who work quietly and passionately behind the scenes to save the unborn. Teen counseling, ultrasound facilities, birthing help, early childcare, and adoption services, are all jeopardized by this single, stupid, anti-life, anti-Godly act. Praising the shooter in any fashion defines you as “Pro-Choice”! If you want to be of any assistance to those who have dedicated their lives and spirits to “Pro-Life”, then stop the glee, and start persuading the massive block of so-called Christians (Catholics and blacks in particular) who voted for the Obama/Sebelius/Tiller ticket, to get over their personal preferences and vote “Pro-Life” next time!

It's simple for me guys....Thou shalt not kill. That means aborting a baby or killing the person that preformed the procedure.

I'm with Ghost again lets hope the justice system works and the rest of the justice will be up to the God of everyone's understanding.

Auschwitz was a concentration (murder) camp that went against all laws of international war, and all sense of moral decency.

The operations performed by the late Dr. Tiller were in compliance with the law.

Were the operations against moral decency? Well, that's a great question. I, along with about 52-55% of America would say no. You, and the rest of America, would say yes. The law, would say no.

If you want to win over more of that 55% pie, then do so with intelligent debate and through elections. You do not end another's life because you disagree with his politics.

Never during the eight years of the Bush administration did I wake up and say "gee, I hope the POTUS is assassinated today." Never have I hoped for the death of Glenn Beck, Newt Gingrich, Dick Cheney, Strom Thurmond, etc., etc. Never.

I am a sucker for hypocrites and scandals, sure. If David Vitter preaches morality during the '04 campaign and his wife says she's more Linda Bobbit than Hillary Clinton .. and then three years later somehow manages to stand behind her man (despite a lack of spine) while he admits to utilizing prostitution services? That's great, I love it. Same with Mark Foley's fight for stronger internet laws, followed by his own scandal.

But the point remains that never have I thought that the best tool to advance my own political beliefs is murder -- and I don't mean to lump every pro-life person into this equation. I am sure just about all of them do find this to be a tragedy and unquestionably wrong.

Buckeye State, your initials describe your comments perfectly. You ecstatically proclaim, "Well, George and Shooter, thank you for putting on public display how disturbing the right-wing religious fanaticals of this country really are." And now you claim you were only looking for common ground. What a lying piece of crap you are.

excellent post, Alpha.

Or this gleeful little post from earlier today...

Nancz -- nothing says "pro-life" better than murder. Posted by: Buckeye State at May 31, 2009 12:26 PM.

V -- I think Alpha addressed this correctly. I should have expounded by saying those "on the fringe" or something -- certainly not all, or close to all, a very select sick individuals.

And I don't back off that post. Don't celebrate a death in the name of the pro-life movement.

BTW, the Commandment is 'Thou shalt not murder'.

In addition, you don't know me! Whether I'm left or right wing! Religious or not. A pro-life extremist or not. Atheist or a cloistered nun.

Next thing, you're going to tell me who I voted for.

Berlet---- with all due respect, Lindsey was probably the 3rd worst NYC mayor, you left out Dinkins. Dinkins was the worst, I am too young to remember Jimmy Walker. I remember Lindsay very well(and Mike Quill), and poor Abe Beame! That's when I had had enough and left!

As for middle ground, the only middle ground I see the pro-abortion left offering is...

1. "We still get to have all the abortions we want, with no parental consent, for any reason, paid for by taxpayers, and partial birth abortions are okay."

2. "We acknowledge that you don't like it."

That's pretty much the "middle ground" defined by the pro-abortion left.

"Oh, and Buckeye, careful around here. These cats have claws. I am certainly your ally around here."

Are we witnessing some sort of lefty troll mating ritual here?

"Oh, and Buckeye, careful around here. These cats have claws. I am certainly your ally around here."

Ugh! Pass me the brain bleach.

V,whatever. Buckeye makes somes points here.Some can't say "i am pro-life because...BANG!" It is clear that his practice was within the laws of the country and the suspect's actions were not.And saying he had it coming only lowers the quality of the debate that has been ongoing for years.

IMHO, Tiller was a piece of filth, and so was the guy who shot him. As for the law, slavery was also legal under the law, yet I don't see any leftists running out to defend slaveowners. Burning witches was legal under the law, yet lefties don't defend witch burners. Payday loan services and exorbitant interest rates charged by credit card companies are legal under the law, but the lefties still attack those businesses.

Sometimes the law is wrong.

South Park gets it about right.

V -- slavery was changed through election and war. It was after the Civil War that the Radical Republicans introduced the 13th, 14th and 15th Amendments. It was a momentous turning point in American history and it was done through the changing of the law -- not random acts of violence.

Also, the payday lending industry just took a huge hit in Ohio. First, the law was changed to severely limit the amount of interest rate that could be charged. Second, the payday lending industry was successful on getting the issue on the ballot, and the voters of Ohio sided with the actions of their government, upholding the law. Never would it have been acceptable for an Ohioan to go in and shoot a random legal loan shark.

To paraphrase Justice Scalia, if you are unhappy with the law, change it through elections. In that regard, the members of the pro-life movement were successful at the turn of the century, as they got their people into office (specifically, a GOP House, Senate, and President) and they passed the Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act of 2003. The law was challenged, and upheld by the Supreme Court in Gonzales v. Carhart.

If you feel the law is wrong, it can be changed. If one disagrees with the services provided by such a doctor, they should be addressed in the KS Assembly and the U.S. Congress. Having a different belief than another does not justify killing that person.

One less baby killer.

Were the operations against moral decency? Well, that's a great question. I, along with about 52-55% of America would say no.

Actually, Buckeye, Tiller was one of the few providers of late term abortions, and the vast majority of people think that is against moral decency:

http://www.pollingreport.com/abortion.htm

Pew: "Now I would like to ask your opinion about a specific abortion procedure known as 'late-term' abortion or 'partial birth' abortion, which is sometimes performed on women during the last few months of pregnancy. Do you think that this procedure should be legal or illegal?"

17% legal, 75% illegal

ABC: "The Supreme Court also recently upheld a federal restriction on the procedure known as partial birth abortion, banning the procedure except when a woman's life is at risk. Do you approve or disapprove of this decision?"

55% approve, 43% disapprove

I think most people have common sense on the issue. Personally, I'm not a Christian and skew libertarian... I think abortion should be legal with few restrictions during the first trimester, legal with restrictions during the second, and illegal unless the health of the mother is at stake during the third. And when I say "health of the mother," I mean that bringing the baby to to term would present a serious and documented risk of death or serious permanent injury, not the flimsy excuses made in too many cases.

My best friend was born three months premature, and was only saved (at the cost of her sight) with extreme effort. I work with many children who were born premature. At six months, even a hard core liberal shouldn't be arguing that they are mere lumps of protoplasm. They're babies. And in my opinion, George Tiller was a butcher. I won't celebrate his death like I think some in the pro-life community will, but neither will I mourn him.

That doesn't mean I support the lunatic who shot him. In this country we don't engage in vigilante "justice" (and I use that term loosely) in this country. His killer is scum who deserves to be locked away forever or executed as the court decides.

Regardless, it is bad that Tiller was shot and killed, but his main judgement will be in front of Him (and no libs, I'm not talking about NoBama)

I am a sucker for hypocrites and scandals, sure.

Do you go after Al Gore for preaching global warming apocalypse while buzzing the world on private jets?

Do you go after Chris Dodd for his sweetheart deals, or Bawney Fwank for obstructing the regulation of a business his boyfriend was running?

Do you go after Nancy Pelosi for lying about waterboarding, or for exempting a business in her home district from Federal minimum wage law?

Do you go after John Murtha for funneling crooked money to sham businesses owned by family members and cronies?

Do you go after Barbara Boxer or Ted Strickland for sheltering pedophiles on their personal staffs?

Or does hypocrisy only interest you on one side of the aisle... which would make you... a hypocrite.

My younger son (adopted) was born to a homeless, unemployed, single mother. I'm glad Tiller and his ilk didn't get a hold of his mother. The thought of a butcher like that sucking his infant brain out and then tossing his tiny body into a refuse bin makes me ill.

Real hypocrisy is leftists who get their panties in a wad because a terrorist might briefly get the sensation of drowning, or that a convicted rapist or murderer might feel a little discomfort when receiving a lethal injection. But the thought of a third trimester infant getting its brains sucked out and its limbs ripped apart they greet with a shrug.

V, here look at the shiny object...ok, come on back to the conversation. Whether, you are Pro-Life or Pro-Choice, we can agree this is indefensible. As a pro-choice individual, I find late term abortions sick and cruel. At that point, I would hope they would explore the other options.That said,shooting the man dead at his Church, at the very least lowers the standard of the debate, and certainly does not help the pro-life cause.

Like it or not, the United States is a nation of laws. Our country was founded, moves forward, and survives because of a clear delineation between reason amd emotion. Emotion is precious and should be used to change the law, not enforce it. Emotion must yield to reason for justice to prevail. Otherwise we should slap every jaywalker, and appoint Supreme Court justices on empathy.

The Vitter and Foley scandals were the two biggest cases of hypocrisy that came to my mind's forefront while typing -- but don't be mistaken, I enjoy when people preach one thing and do the other, regardless of political affiliation.

You also bring up some valid points. First, allow me to clarify my own views on abortion. Contrary to what you might think from this post, it is about the 233rd most important issue on my political scale. I don't think a government should, in general, prevent a woman from having one. That's it. The limitations drawn up in Roe and Casey? Sure, why not. The aforementioned Partial Birth Abortion Ban Act of 2003 - go for it (not to mention it only limited one form of late term abortion -- in tact, while not addressing the D&X procedure).

You mentioned that you adopted your son from, what appears to be, a prime candidate for abortion. One on the lowest ebb of society's scale -- poor, a father that would not be around (if known), etc. Sadly, there are few too people like you. While I think abortions should be available, I think there are steps to take to limit the number that occur (I'll spare you the "safe, legal, and rare" rhetoric).

First, I strongly believe that the #1 way to prevent abortions is to limit the number of unwanted pregnancies. While that is beyond simplistic, there are many ways to advance such a concept. Obviously, the first is to abstain from sex that could potentially lead to an unwanted pregnancy (namely, premarital). More power to the people who do this, but it does not address the real world issues of today. If young people are able to live by this, that's fantastic and more power to them. Ultimately, there's little the government can do to achieve this goal. It's something to be left to parents and friends.

With that in mind, I think the plan of action to limit abortions in our country is to be very open and frank in the education of young people. It's staggering how many young people have misconceptions about their sexual health (from believing that Yellow 5 -- as found in Mt Dew -- will lower their sperm count, to the times people believe they can or cannot become pregnant). By lying everything on the table -- all of the risks, hard facts, etc, people can make their own informed decisions. Still, some will decide to have sex. That's why I think condoms should be widely available -- yes, even in our schools. I do not think that the availability of condoms determines whether or not one will or will not engage in sex. I think, however, that it will determine whether or not one will or will not engage in safe sex. My college had condoms available at our Health Center. No one decided to have sex based on this fact -- hell, most people left HS without their V-Card -- but with condoms available, there was absolutely no excuse to not practice safe sex. One could go to the Center, and take 20 condoms. If they were dumb enough not to, I'm sure they could find extras from their roommate or neighbor. As such, despite all of the sex that I no was occurring, there were no pregnancies, and thus no abortions.

Still, pregnancies do happen. As I said before, I'm fine with the limitations laid out in Casey. If a state wants to tell a woman she keep the child, or give it up for adoption, and make her wait 24 hrs to have the operation, I am fine with that. Like I said before, I think adoption should be an option that is heavily promoted. The one girl (that I know of) who I went to HS with who became pregnant, gave her child up for adoption. I'm assuming that child is grown and was nurtured in a loving family. I have no doubt the same holds true for your son. I know of two couples who cannot have children (note: I am NOT implying this is your case -- obviously there are many reasons to adopt), and I wish they would follow your lead, as I know they'd make great parents, and present an alternative for the mother that has infinitely better results.

All those things said, I still do not believe that the state should foreclose the opportunity for the mother to have an abortion. If there were any points that I just mentioned that you agreed with, that agreement (I'm sure) ends here. It's just a matter of how you think your government should function, and I am opposed to a government big enough to make that decision for a woman. As I think I've made clear, there are plenty of ways to combat abortions -- from education, to no sex, to safe sex, to adoption -- but ultimately, the choice, IMHO, should be left in the mother's hands. She's grown up enough to make decisions regarding her sexual health, she's grown up to make another monumental decision in her life. If you think this morally wrong, I can accept that. If you think she will be forced to answer to Him as result, that might be the case. If the government wishes to provide guidance or advice, I have no qualms with that, ultimately, however, the state should not make the choice.

Eugenics was LEGAL in Germany and occupied lands during the war. Slavs, Jews, Gypsies, Homosexuals, Down's Syndrome children and other 'untermenschen' were all to be exterminated for the betterment of the National Socialist master race.
Nice neat and legal.

Babies, that's what abortionists call fetus' that make it out alive, can be dumped in a room to die now and its done frequently. Is that legal? If the babies head pops out while our friend was checking a stock price or taking a piss, then its a baby.
If you're looking for murderers you can start with the likes of this guy who butchers babies. Let's be thankful he don't make sausage as well.

Good God, I agree with Ghost also. This was reprehensible, and the individual responsible deserves the death penalty, along with Mumia, who also richly deserves to fry for murdering a police officer in cold blood. Are we agreed on this, Ghost?

To open another subject -
Muslims nearly riot in Britain.
But with a difference...
*Extremists ... driven off the streets by moderate Muslims *

"The Muslim community turned on extremists in their midst yesterday, telling them they were 'sick and tired' of their behaviour. ... As the radical Muslims began to set up their stall, they were surrounded by a crowd [of Muslims] shouting 'we don't want you here' and 'move on, move on'. ... Farasat Latif, of the Islamic Centre in Luton, ... said moderate members of his community took action because police had failed to move the group on."

maybe Tiller will be reincarnated as a fetus that will be aborted......

now that would be justice!!!!

let me see if I can summarize what the liberals are saying here...
1)it was wrong to kill Tiller
2)it is OK to kill babies

did I get it right???

Hey, when I killed Tiller, I was just practicing Post-Birth Abortion
a liberal jury will see that & let me off......

Thanks Teq... it was getting stifling around here. I'm fairly sure Van Helsing will provide mucho opportunity to weigh in once an official arrest is made.

The "moderates fight back" story is as good as the report in the latest Reason Magazine that rain forests are making a comeback. The basic story is that as people head to the cities in equatorial countries, their clear-cut farms are being reclaimed by the rain forest at a rate of 50 acres per day worldwide. The Finnish scientist wrote "... our insights provide grounds for optimism about the prospects of returning forests."

Jay, we are close on this one. One of us better call Ripley's. Lol. I am not a supporter of the Death Penalty, but life in prison...absolutely! As for Eat Me, again, that attitude lowers the standard of the debate, and likely sets back progress for your agenda. Let 's put it this way, Scott Roeder disagrees with Dr. Tiller because he is pro-life, feeling helpless because the laws have not changed,he shoots a helpless Dr. Tiller to death. That is murder in America, and that law has not changed either.

Ugh. Two things here....

1) Dude that did this needs to spend the rest of his life behind bars. There is no excuse. And thankfully, I haven't seen anyone defending it yet.

2) I really don't feel bad for Tiller. He was an evil human being. Sorry, but my outrage reflex is numb to evil people that get killed. Think Jeffrey Dahmer, Saddam Hussein.

The left is going to politicize the hell out of this.

I am pro-life. You go out there and kill an abortion doctor, you do nothing to help the pro-lfe cause. Am I disgusted that this guy was a human baby Ginsu knife? Hell ya. Do I take any glee in that man's murder. F^&$ no. He also pointed the gun at other men in the church too. Coulda killed them as well.

If this was 1st deg murder then this man deserves state execution like any other murder. Drops the microphone like Chris Rock and walks away.)

Ghost
shooting a helpless Tiller
and killing a helpless baby are both murder

nothing you say will change my mind
my attitude is what we are debating

before he was shot,
Tiller disagrees with a baby's right to life because he is pro-choice, not feeling helpless because the laws have not changed, Tiller aborts a helpless baby to death. That should be murder in America, and the law needs to be changed

Posted @ Hot Air:
http://hotair.com/archives/2009/05/31/george-tiller-murdered/

"As for those who condemn the murder while merrily hoping that he’s burning in hell, let a poor confused atheist ask you this: Isn’t the proper Christian response to any death to pray that God will have mercy on a flawed, fallible sinner, who’s now at last seen the error of his ways? Tiller might have changed his mind about abortion and repented in years to come but his killer’s deprived him of the chance. No prayers that God will take that into consideration?"

Ron Brown had the goods on Bill Clinton and we know what happened to him.

RE: Posted by: V the K at May 31, 2009 3:01 PM

"Buckeye State proves the point that the people who are happiest about Tiller's murder are the pro-abortion left. They are just creaming over all the fingerpointing and obnoxiousness they get to display now. He didn't even wait until the corpse was cold before waving the bloody shirt in support of his agenda."

I agree completely.

Reminds me of how the political Left feels about our military as well. They have utter contempt for anyone wearing the uniform....unless they're dead and they can be used as a statistic and exploited as a political tool.

RE: Posted by: SoWhat at May 31, 2009 8:50 PM

Ron brown was killed in an accident. That was an NDB approach gone bad. The crew didn't commit suicide, and if this crash was somehow set up or staged, it would have been a wildly unlikely and unreliable way to do it.

Sometimes even Slick Willie gets lucky, yaknowhatimsayin?

If someone had killed Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Bin Laden to save the innocents these men murdered, I'd say rejoicing was in order.

I'm unapologeticly jubilant. King David celebrated the death of his enemies. King Solomon wrote that many rejoice at the death of the wicked.

I realize it is sin to kill and whoever did this shouldn't have. I also wouldn't encourage anyone to do anything like this.

I know I'
m a sinner, too and I may be wrong. But I'm not gonna lie - I was dancing in the streets over this.

What's the number who died on that plane. What does a Clinton care about colletral damage when it comes to protecting their own reputation...

Ted Bundy, John Wayne Gacy and Jeffrey Dahmer were all brutal killers. I seriously doubt anyone other than the most mentally ill or perverse would have mourned their deaths had they been snuffed out before they could murder even one (more) innocent soul.

I do hope Tiller had a chance to get right with God. Otherwise, I suspect he is somewhere quite unpleasant right now.

Should the killer of Tiller The Baby Killer be prosecuted for murder and found guilty - absolutely. Taking the law into your own hands isnt the answer.

But Tiller tilled and planted the seeds of his own destruction by being one of the very few who killed babies that were viable outside the mothers womb.

Of course the lefties will claim this means the pro life movement is full of killers. If that were the case, Tiller wouldnt have lived to the age of 67 - he would have been dead decades ago.

As for what happened to Tiller the moment he died - dont know for sure, but I sure as hell wouldnt want to have been in his shoes (even if they were made of asbetos). I hope he has a chance to meet his victims.

If you're on a playground & someone starts gunning done kids. Would someone who shoots the guy be doing right or wrong? I don't see much difference.all legal options to stop this reign of terror were exhausted.

Saw this on the news last night:

http://www.dailynews.com/news/ci_12494000

This does not bode well for 2A supporters.

Abortionists think killing innocent babies is acceptable because they are accomplishing a greater good (preventing "unwanted" children from being born). Nuts like Scott Roeder think killing not-so-innocent abortion doctors is acceptable to because it prevents the killing of innocent babies. Both sides are using fallacious moral reasoning to justify their positions.

And Buckeye, I can't believe you are trying to use Auschwitz as an example of a barbaric act that was "illegal". It most certainly was not illegal under German law at the time, which is the very reason why claiming something is legal (like abortion or slavery) is not a sound moral argument. Some day, when people regain their senses (assuming God doesn't smite us first), the path we've chosen regarding the wholesale slaughter of the unborn will be judged in the same harsh light as the atrocities of Auschwitz.

Sotomayor and La Raza

Excellent cases can be made both for confirmation of Appeals Court Judge Sonia Sotomayor to the United States Supreme Court and for filibustering her into submission and ultimate withdrawal such as the Democrat minority did to George W. Bush’s pick for the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals, Judge Miguel Estrada.

It may be recalled that the eminently-qualified Estrada was eventually beaten down because of one serious flaw in his resume’. He was so abused that Estrada’s wife may have died shortly after as a consequence.

As with Sotomayor, he too had a compelling history and was a Hispanic nominee but unlike Sotomayor, he suffered from the terminal malady of unreconstructed conservativism and thus was totally unacceptable to fair-minded Senate liberals.

If they didn’t exactly “Bork” him, they trashed and distorted his record sufficiently to make the guy surrender in frustration. Estrada subsequently entered private practice.

Unlike Sotomayor, Estrada had no unseemly affiliations in his background, although some would allege that Sotomayor’s associations are quite seemly, especially that with La Raza.

This is all but moot anyway since Barack Obama’s choice to fill the shoes of David Souter is a shoo-in and, as I previously argued, it would be counterproductive and a waste of effort and ammunition to go after Sotomayor. See “Save the Ammo and Confirm Sonia,” http://www.genelalor.com/blog1/?p=1034. Hence, any discussion of Sonia Sotomayor at this point is irrelevant.

What is worth further investigation, however, is La Raza, a group of which Sotomayor is a member and which proudly published her 2001 speech. In that lecture/speech she said in her infamously racist and stupid fashion, “I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experience would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn’t lived that life:” http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=99420.

The National Council of la Raza, the Race, en Ingles, the NCLR, lapped it up....
(Read the rest at http://genelalor.com)

Just for the record Ghost of Wellstone, you are right. Murder is murder.

No one has the right to appoint themselves judge, jury and executioner and take justice into their own hands. That's not the kind of society I want to live in.

Posted by: Grim Reaper at June 1, 2009 5:45 AM

The case could be made that the killer was just performing his own version of a 'late term abortion'.

I guess all he needed for it to be legal was a medical degree...

I prefer the term "post-birth abortion"

GHOST OF WELLSTONE
http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/107459-0/
Van has this up for comment, why don't you join in?

"If you're on a playground & someone starts gunning done kids. Would someone who shoots the guy be doing right or wrong? I don't see much difference.all legal options to stop this reign of terror were exhausted."

"Hey, when I killed Tiller, I was just practicing Post-Birth Abortion
a liberal jury will see that & let me off......"

"let me see if I can summarize what the liberals are saying here...
1)it was wrong to kill Tiller
2)it is OK to kill babies"

YOU PEOPLE are exhausting!

Kharn, thanks for the invite, I just now got it.I have likely missed the festivities. Good post though, I happen to disagree with aspects of it, but good nonetheless. Van, if you are not opposed, I would like to cut and paste a teaser and link it? Hey, what's an opposing voice on your territory right?

This must be what a moonbats hell looks like

You can't claim to be pro-life and applaud the murder of this doctor

Posted by: Ghost of Wellstone at May 31, 2009 2:02 PM

I don't applaud the murder of the 'doctor' - but that is such a stupid canard. You leftards really need to get some better talking points.

Wellstoned, knock yourself out.

Sixty thousand plus abortions: think about that for a minute, let the numbers sink in.

Stop the presses, GoW and JG agree!