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May 18, 2009

Open Thread

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Compliments of Morris.

Posted by Van Helsing at May 18, 2009 12:07 PM

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Maybe UND can use the nickname, "indoctrinated masses" or, " fighting self esteem". It seems a little ironic that the cultural center driving all this social tyranny has a professional team called the "Redskins" when it would be more apt that it be modified to "Thinskins".

Posted by: Warren at May 18, 2009 1:49 PM

lol

Posted by: Heather M at May 18, 2009 1:56 PM

"Change We Need"... like a hole in the head!

Posted by: KHarn at May 18, 2009 2:16 PM

How's this for change?

Posted by: Lyle at May 18, 2009 2:24 PM

Profiles in counter-moonbattery.

Posted by: Lyle at May 18, 2009 2:27 PM

Normal Is As Normal Does

“Heteronormative” is not a word you will find in your average Webster’s but may be there in the not too distant future, particularly if Harry Knox has his way.

Knox is that Obama-appointed advisor on the President’s Advisory Council on Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships who has made a name for himself by attacking Pope Benedict XVI, http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=46192, and for being an outspoken advocate for the homosexual cause and for the whole LGBT gang’s campaign to gain acceptance and recognition for closet-exiters.

Obama’s multi-hatted faith advisor Knox is also a staff member of HRC, the misnamed Human Rights Campaign which in actuality is a homosexual advocacy group. Why the “H” in HRC is not identified as standing for “Homosexual” is a bafflement explicable only as an effort to cloak its true purpose of infiltrating the ranks of the truly normal and recruiting new members from those ranks.

Knox coined the word, “heteronormative” in his statement “that part of the administration’s role in promoting responsible fatherhood should include moving beyond America’s “heteronormative view of fatherhood:” http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=48232.

Put another way, Knox maintains that the Obama administration should re-define fatherhood as something other than being the state of the male parent in a heterosexual relationship if, that is, we wish to promote “responsible fatherhood.” . . .

(Read the rest at http://genelalor.com)

Posted by: Berlet98 at May 18, 2009 3:22 PM

Posted by: V the Kv at May 18, 2009 4:03 PM

CIA interrogation methods originally developed by communists to extract false confessions of American POWs.

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1893015,00.html

Came to the CIA via SERE.

Posted by: Brandon at May 18, 2009 4:04 PM

"Rumsfeld 'Bible texts' criticised"
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8056207.stm

"Former US Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld has been accused of using quotes from the Bible in his briefings to George W Bush during the Iraq War."

The Horror, the HORROR!

"Critics said he risked giving Muslims the impression that the war was a clash between Christianity and Islam. "

PS:Back from basic and AIT. I ship out to Korea in June. Apparently, I'm being assigned to the 2nd. I.D.
Hey, whats the tag that allows you to look high-speed by allowing you to a web link inside some words? My other computer died and I lost it.

Posted by: Conservativeteen at May 18, 2009 4:12 PM

Ah, Conservativeteen, you believe quoting scripture in intelligence briefings was a good thing? Or were Rumsfeld and Co. simply taking advantage of Bush's faith after the bottle? For a large number of a population to already hate us for our policies in the Middle East, using religious quotes makes it more dangerous to engage on a "crusade".

Posted by: Ghost of Wellstone at May 18, 2009 4:18 PM

Alert Airman Saves Civilian Jumbo Jet. You know, one of those poor dumb military guys that didn't study and got stuck in Iraq.

Posted by: V the K at May 18, 2009 4:37 PM

Wellstoned why do you care what countries think of the US? They've been hating the US for decades and now you care. By the way why hasn't your savior saved the day and stopped all the wars yet?

Posted by: Farmer Ted at May 18, 2009 5:16 PM

CT:

Congratulations on the Basic/AIT. Enjoy the Land of the Morning Calm. Take full advantage of the experience of the guys with patches on their right shoulder, and have an Infantry day.

Viking04

Posted by: Viking04 at May 18, 2009 5:26 PM

Yes, I am concerned with relations with our allies and I certainly concerned about whether or not religious zealots in Middle East perceive this as a Holy War. Under those conditions, it puts our troops in greater harm. And by the way,I have never considered President Obama a "Savior", you are an idiot. While I always found him likable, he was not my first pick in the Democratic Primary.

Posted by: Ghost of Wellstone at May 18, 2009 5:54 PM

Shout out to the Pinapple Cowboy and you'all. Have not seen him around lately.

UK Police replace Union Flag with gay banner – coming to a US city near you

Posted by: Oiao at May 18, 2009 6:03 PM

Wellstoned you obviously have mistaken me for yourself. Your "holy war" argument is pathetic. If you knew your history you wouldn't even make the statement. Think WWI. You are more than an idiot,you are a libacrit.

Posted by: Farmer Ted at May 18, 2009 6:16 PM

RE: Posted by: Brandon at May 18, 2009 4:04 PM

Brandon,

Interesting that Time Magazine would agree with the Conservative side of the argument for once.

The Left keeps saying that the coercive technique of "waterboarding" is torture - yet we do it to our own troops in Survival, Evasion, Resistance, Escape (SERE) Training, and with no ill effects.

They also trace it's origins back to the Korean War era - yet all the prominent Leftists have been spreading the lie that "we executed Japanese war criminals for doing this". If only....the Japanese water torture methods were a lot different, a lot more brutal, and and were specifically designed to be punitive and cause injury or death.

As for the "false confessions" part, it isn't always the technique that matters - sometimes it's the questions being asked. In fact, sometimes it's the nature of the lies that tell you what the truth is.

It's not all overheated melodramatic Jack Bauer tough-talking pistol-cocking nonsense like they show on TV. In fact, a lot of intellegence gathering is asking the same question 25 different ways and then figuring out how to piece it all together...to get the next question.

Posted by: TonyD95B at May 18, 2009 6:24 PM

Re: Posted by: Conservativeteen at May 18, 2009 4:12 PM

Congrats on BCT / AIT! Best of luck to you, and definitely heed the excellent advice from Viking04.

Posted by: TonyD95B at May 18, 2009 6:34 PM

Posted by: Oiao at May 18, 2009 6:54 PM

CT - Semper Fi from an old (well, not so old) Marine.

Thank you for your service.

Posted by: Oiao at May 18, 2009 6:56 PM

From the "where are they now?" file...
Ayers and Rev. Wright team up to solve middle east peace.

Posted by: mega at May 18, 2009 7:27 PM

Woman cuffed for not holding escalator handrail

www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20090515.wescalator16/BNStory/National/home

i put another one in the other thread... :)

Posted by: Artfldgr at May 18, 2009 7:47 PM

Ugandan moon mission? I have this mental image of some poor bastard strapped to a large kite, wrapped in tin foil and wearing a scuba re-breather. "OK, now launch him! He's up! Get some more string... OK, a little more... a little more... pretty soon, he'll get there!"

Posted by: PabloD at May 18, 2009 8:43 PM

There must be something in the water over there.

Posted by: Scaramouche at May 18, 2009 10:46 PM

CT, nice to have you back! Congrats on completion!

"The left keep saying 'we executed Japanese war criminals for doing this'" and let's not let them get away with that. The Japansese water torture was to pump a person full of salt water, then stomping on their stomachs hard enough to rupture organs and cause death. Even to compare the two is outrageously immoral. I'll not let it stand wherever I see it tried.

Posted by: Karin at May 19, 2009 5:29 AM

"Near-Literal Moonbattery: Ugandan President proposes African moon mission, to spy on what white people are doing in space."

I guess they'll call their currency the Afro?

Posted by: FigWig at May 19, 2009 6:15 AM

"Fool most of the people before the election"


Or have a really well public funded organization to "CHEAT" your way into office with fake voters. Make sure you pay them off immediately after the election though, they might turn on you or be found out! It's the Democratic way - because they can't get their way honestly.

Posted by: TED at May 19, 2009 6:37 AM

Greenpeace in the red...why...traveling around the world to tell us we shouldn't travel around the world:

"Travel looked to have soaked up a pretty penny, with Greenpeace personnel visiting Tokyo, Niue, Pohnpei, South Korea, Poland and Papua New Guinea, while Greenpeace vessel MV Esperanza toured seven east-coast Australian cities and treated more than 5000 visitors to its take on climate change"

http://business.theage.com.au/business/greenpeace-heads-into-red-as-costs-bite-20090516-b6vo.html

Posted by: baldeagle390 at May 19, 2009 7:23 AM

Excellent read:

Death of a Civilization

http://lewrockwell.com/orig9/deming2.html

Posted by: baldeagle390 at May 19, 2009 7:35 AM

Six problems of modern liberalism. Modern liberalism being a euphemism for moonbattery.

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at May 19, 2009 8:41 AM

baldeagle,

that reminds me of a teacher I had in college, we was chinese and taught a class on religion. While he taught the history and basic beliefs of the religions we were studying, he also spent much of the class making the case against cultural relativism.

My main problem with absolutism (if that's a word) is that I can't see how basic values and morality can be decided with logic - take the capture of enemies on the battlefield, for example. Sure, the prisoners might have a certain amount of intelligence value, but beyond that why don't why just kill them? Most people would find that to be morally wrong, even though the prisoners are our enemies. I can't see how one could arrive at that moral belief with logic.

My second problem with absolutism is, even if it were possible to come to make moral and value judgments with logic, how do you know you're right? For the sake of argument, let's assume that there are 100 million christian conservative American's (who agree on their core values). If those conservatives look at any other culture, they would have to think that the people in that culture have fooled themselves, that they believe in something which is not real. If we took the population of the world and reduced it to a hundred people and put them in one room, there would be one conservative person. That person would have to say that they are the only person in the room who hasn't deceived themselves.

You can't tell if you deceived yourself if you already deceived yourself, and with self deception so common (99%), how can you possibly think that your group is the only one that isn't deceived?

Posted by: Brandon at May 19, 2009 8:42 AM

Posted by: nancz at May 19, 2009 10:23 AM

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at May 19, 2009 10:23 AM

Hey, Conservativeteen, I'm late to the party, but if you haven't gotten your answer, try the following -
~a href="http://LINK GOES HERE" rel="nofollow"+The hyperlinked text goes in this string ~/a+
The hyperlinked text goes in this string


Simply replace ~ with a "less than" sign (above the comma on my keyboard) and + with a "greater than" sign (above the period on mine)

Posted by: Fat Stanley at May 19, 2009 11:23 AM

RE: Posted by: Brandon at May 19, 2009 8:42 AM

"If we took the population of the world and reduced it to a hundred people and put them in one room, there would be one conservative person. That person would have to say that they are the only person in the room who hasn't deceived themselves."

I beg to differ...what the Left derisively refers to as "Conservatism" is a lot more common than you imagine.

".......We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. --That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security...........

And we know the rest.

Posted by: TonyD95B at May 19, 2009 11:33 AM