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Randy Forbes knows nothing about his country.

Posted by: wingnutcracker at May 24, 2009 11:41 AM

Huh? You mean he doesn't do liberal revisionist history?

We are not a Christian nation. we are guaranteed freedom of religion under the Constitution but anyone who claims that we have a state religion is Unamerican.

WINGNUTCRACKER
Since you hate religious people so much, why don't you join the fight against ISLAM? Think of it, you could kill fanatical religious oppressors and it'll be LEGAL.

Jefferson wrote his own bible in which he removed all supernatural occurrences from the bible, check it out. The mistake that seems common to these discussions is the inability to separate lessons from the religion. The teachings of the bible are not exclusive to it. And to KHarn I won't speak for nutcracker but i think the only person who could hate a religion is a person who loves there own, I personally hate what fighting among religions has done. I am not sure though if you can separate these two concepts. I think you can, I mean if you can wrap your head around that trinity of yours i assume you can wrap your head around this.

Anon at 3:40 p.m.,

you will be wasting your time here. The person who runs this blog and those that posts are rabidly far right extremists.

I come here just to mess wit them and get a laugh

DO NOT EXPECT RATIONAL INTELLIGENT discussion

what is this site but a waste of time and server space

LIBERALS:
Hate Christians, fear and support muslims.

Why do the libs hate Christianity but love Islam? Oh, that's right... Islam loves America just as much as they do, which is as much as O.J. Simpson loved Nicole and Michael Vick loved his dogs.

Posted by: Anonymous at May 24, 2009 3:56 PM

YES! At last - near intelligent words from an ass. YOU ARE WASTING YOUR TIME HERE!

Get lost!

How incredibly DENSE liberals are!

Jimbo you are so obtuse that if I didn't know better I would think you were a straight line

Posted by: AnonymASS at May 24, 2009 8:34 PM

WHOA! You got me there! I do believe I'll convert to communism and spend the rest of my days in a blind, brain-dead quest to suck your little brown god's penis! LOL!

What an absolutely incredible er... insult?

You are a geometry major no doubt. Too bad you flunked. What... You work at Starbucks?

In the future, when you find what you consider "cute" insult on the Web and use it as your own, you should at least make an attempt to determine if it is nonsensical.

You've again shown what mental giants liberals are. LOL!

We are not a Christian nation. we are guaranteed freedom of religion under the Constitution but anyone who claims that we have a state religion is Unamerican.

Posted by: Anonymous at May 24, 2009 3:02 PM

No-one said there is a state religion, nor do Christian Americans want there to be a state religion. That is a horrible attempt at a straw man, really, really horrible. I'm quite embarrassed for you.

Saying America is a Christian nation in no way inplies the existence of a state religion. Or, if you think it does, kindly take up the issue with every media outlet ever, in history, as all of them refer to Indonesia and Turkey as Muslim nations, despite both having secular constitutions.

"The general principles on which the fathers achieved independence were the general principles of Christianity. I will avow that I then believed, and now believe, that those general principles of Christianity are as eternal and immutable as the existence and attributes of God."
-- John Adams, June 28, 1813

"The second day of July, 1776, will be the most memorable epoch in the history of America. I am apt to believe that it will be celebrated by succeeding generations as the great anniversary Festival. It ought to be commemorated, as the Day of Deliverance, by solemn acts of devotion to God Almighty. It ought to be solemnized with pomp and parade, with shows, games, sports, guns, bells, bonfires and illuminations, from one end of this continent to the other, from this time forward forever."
-- John Adams, July 3, 1776

"God who gave us life gave us liberty. And can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are of the Gift of God?"
-- Thomas Jefferson

Resistance to tyranny becomes the Christian and social duty of each individual. ... Continue steadfast and, with a proper sense of your dependence on God, nobly defend those rights which heaven gave, and no man ought to take from us."
-- John Hancock

etc. Guess those quotes must be from far-right extremists too, hm?

Whoops. Forgot this one:

"It cannot be emphasized too strongly or too often that this great nation was founded, not by religionists, but by Christians; not on religions, but on the Gospel of Jesus Christ. For this very reason peoples of other faiths have been afforded asylum, prosperity, and freedom of worship here."

-- Patrick Henry, Ratifier of the U.S. Constitution.

I am sure Barack Obama could set Patrick Henry straight as to the real nature of America, though.

Great quotes, MC!

America is not a christian nation. Simple fact. Washington, Jefferson, et al were men of the Enligtenment. Look it up. The country was founded on the idea of freedom from religion in part due to the tyranny of the Chruch of England, the established Christians of the time.

I don't like Islam either, Khard, but the fact is Muslims have zero to no influence on American public/political policy. Unfortunately, Christain relgious nut jobs like Randy Forbes do. I haven't heard one argument from an American claiming that Islamic law should have any influence of American politics, yet Christians seem to feel their holy book should dictate politcal discourse in this country. And that is simply an Unamerican, and frankly dangerous stance.

Wingnutcracker.. Um.. Did you read the direct quotes from Fouinding Fathers that I posted right above your post?

I'm Australian, by the way. It's a little worrying that I seem to know more about your own Founding Fathers than you do.

Wingnutcracker - again: "This great nation was founded... On the gospel of Jesus Christ." -- Patrick Henry.

Please do let Zombie Patrick Henry know of your issues with his statements.

- Mandible Claw

It's always amusing to see moonbats trying to contend that freedom from "coercion in religion" has ever meant freedom "from (...) religion," and then trying to base an argument on that. The floundering that results can be quite spectacular :)

America was founded by christians fleeing a tyranical monarc we are a christian nation AND BARACK OBAMA IS A STUPID PINHEADED JERK

Oh look, the normally garrulous trolls have fallen silent.

Anon- "I don't like Islam either, Khard, but the fact is Muslims have zero to no influence on American public/political policy. Unfortunately, Christain relgious nut jobs like Randy Forbes do. I haven't heard one argument from an American claiming that Islamic law should have any influence of American politics, yet Christians seem to feel their holy book should dictate politcal discourse in this country. And that is simply an Unamerican, and frankly dangerous stance."

Anon Dhimmibat- You sir, are a fool. The very worst kind of happy-clappy, neo-communist cretin. If creatures like you could be relied upon to damage only themselves, there would not be a problem with your continuing ability to draw breath. You are concerned about Christians imposing their will upon your precious "secular America"? It is not going to be your multi-culti secular moonbat utopia much longer, fool. Choose a side dhimmiwit. No, scratch that. It is a foregone conclusion which side you would choose.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PliODvEGuxI

^Above addressed to- "wingnutcracker". Who is merely an adjectiveless Dhimmiwit, rather than an anonymous Dhimmiwit. What I wouldn't give to watch such marxist jagoffs attempt to convince their future Religion of Peace masters that America is a "secular nation".

Secular government, religious people. Why is this so friggin hard to understand on both sides of the aisle?

Jimbo my insult was clever so just give it up

LISTEN HERE
the same people who follow and are "defined" by a 2000 year old man are more than willing to let a 200 year old man figure define their country. I have even heard tales that is man Patrick Henry was given gift by three Harvard professors soon after his immaculate birth( there was no blood at all!!!).

Posted by: OhJimbo at May 26, 2009 6:02 PM

Thanks for the frank revelation of the American left's opinions on its (America's) founding fathers.