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The national spokesman of ACORN is named Levenson? WTF?

From their website:

"ACORN is a non-profit, non-partisan social justice organization with national headquarters in New York, New Orleans and Washington, D.C."

"A recent study shows that our issue campaign victories have delivered approximately $15 billion in direct monetary benefits to our membership and constituency over the past 10 years. "

"For its part, ACORN, in order to maintain independence, does not accept government funding and is not tax exempt."

But they ARE a tax-exempt 501(c)3 (I'm on the board of one), and 40% of their revenues come from the government; $31M since 1998.

Then you find dozens of videos of their leadership plainly stating they support Obama. Now that's all well and good but why do our tax dollars go there?

Race Card - Played when they have NO argument and it is used in desperation. When the left pull the ole' race card you know you have "OWNED" them bloody (just before they pout and stomp their feet, curse and call you a name)!

Apparently, Levenson also hit on one of Beck's crew immediately afterward, according to today's show.

Glenn Becks days maybe numbered especialy if EMPRER PALPATINE OBAMA hear about this

I saw this episode. It was classic. I had to fast forward through Glenn running circles around the creep, though.

Cut to commercial, they're acting weird. Figures the guy would pull a cowardly maneuver off-camera so that he wouldn't be seen for the chicken-blank he is.

That smug bastard knows he and his cronies are doing everything they can to undermine our free electoral process by stacking the deck in their candidate's favor (democrats, of course).

He and his acorn accomplices should be lined up and shot.

ACORN is an organization dedicated to stealing elections. Republicans and Democrats know this and anyone who says different is lying.

Sadly ACORN's illegal activities will continue until the Republicans grow a pair and unmercifully attack this group until they are forced to disband or go to prison.

Krouse: that was hilarious! what a scumbag beyond scumbag. Beck 'deals' with these nimrods just perfectly.

If I was going to hire a spokesman for my organization, I would really avoid hiring a MONSTROUS ASSHOLE that can't convince anyone of anything.

I hope they keep him forever. He's the gift that keeps on giving. This is the second time in three weeks he's ripped on national tv.

And then the morning after, he calls the girl he was hitting on and says on the answering machine: "Tell Beck he's a WIMP and he fights like a GIRL....Call me."
No further comment needed, of course.

What a POS. This is an issue we should fight tooth and nail on, because we are so right and they are so wrong. Stealing elections, intimidation tactics, stealing govt money.

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Anyone in the MSM --- CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS --- could ask the same questions Glenn Beck does. But when it's a left-wing group that's useful to the cause, the "journalists" of the MSM just let them mouth their talking points and nod, with no follow-up.

Where are the brave anonymous trolls to stick up for ACORN?

Mr. Beck demonstrates the proper way to handle these insects. We need to get in their face, ask them the questions we are afraid to ask because of political correctness. Accusations of being a racist, nazi, or facist will eventually be made and that's all the left have. Conservatives all need to grow a set of onions and fight the left with the ferocity that the left uses. I called my congresscritter's office on tax day since I could not attend a tea party. I got loud with them and conveyed my displeasure. They hung up on me and even sent a letter telling me to cease communication with their office. I'm going down fighting. Typically repubs/conservatives have been flaccid and wimpy when confronting the left, this did not work in the past and will not work now. Fight the power.

ACORN is an organization dedicated to stealing elections. Republicans and Democrats know this and anyone who says different is lying.

That's really the whole point here. No matter how they position it, most people get that what's going on here is a huge, national organization conceived from the outset to steal elections, paid for with our money. It is really brilliant. Billions of taxpayer dollars funneled through local administrators to hourly workers who get incentive-paid for getting voter reg forms filled out, thus both encouraging on-the-street fraud while providing deniability at an organizational level. It's f'ing brilliant - a machine that just continues to steal election after election right in the middle of a democratic society, with its own money collected legally from its own voters.

If they put 1/10th the effort into doing something productive as they do with figuring out how to game the system, there'd be no reason at all for any form of affirmative action.

Kudos to Lord Crimson, V the K, Bryherb, and mega.

Isn't ACORN exactly the type of outfit for which the RICO statute was enacted?

Wow you guys really think Glen Beck won that debate, eh? People really see what they want to see. As Fund said, Beck is talking about 20 people out of 13k. If you think there aren't more than 20 people out of 13k spitting in your food at Burger King you've led a charmed life. By the way, cutting the guy's mic and then making ridiculous accusations after he's not around to defend himself is pretty childish. But exactly what I'd expect from a fearmongering idiot like Beck. At least the fact that Rupert Murdoch's News Corp revenue is down 99% indicates most American's aren't stupid enough to buy into this crap. Time to suck it up Republicans, you lost fair and square.

Wow you guys really think Glen Beck won that debate, eh? People really see what they want to see. As Levenson said, Beck is talking about 20 people out of 13k. If you think there aren't more than 20 people out of 13k spitting in your food at Burger King you've led a charmed life. By the way, cutting the guy's mic and then making ridiculous accusations after he's not around to defend himself is pretty childish. But exactly what I'd expect from a fearmongering idiot like Beck. At least the fact that Rupert Murdoch's News Corp revenue is down 99% indicates most American's aren't stupid enough to buy into this crap. Time to suck it up Republicans, you lost fair and square.

Wow you guys really think Glen Beck won that debate, eh? People really see what they want to see.

Sure, I mean, you apparently see yourself as Awesome, right?

As Levenson said, Beck is talking about 20 people out of 13k. If you think there aren't more than 20 people out of 13k spitting in your food at Burger King you've led a charmed life.

That analogy would be apt if spitting in people's food somehow helped Burger King employees make more money. ACORN employees committed fraud for precisely that reason. Some may have even gone above and beyond the call of duty purely out of zeal, as well.

By the way, cutting the guy's mic and then making ridiculous accusations after he's not around to defend himself is pretty childish. But exactly what I'd expect from a fearmongering idiot like Beck.

Oh, so you didn't watch the video. He didn't "cut his mic." He kicked him out of the studio for playing the race card like a drooling moron. It's akin to your drooling about Beck being a "fear-monger." Where that came from, only you know. I personally don't want to dive that deep into the dark crevices of your mind.

At least the fact that Rupert Murdoch's News Corp revenue is down 99% indicates most American's aren't stupid enough to buy into this crap. Time to suck it up Republicans, you lost fair and square.

AHAHAHAHAHAHA. You're actually bringing up the state of media revenues as a talking point!! Here's a task for you. If News Corp's revenue is down 99% (and you need a citation here, fyi) and Fox News' programming consistently rates higher than any of its competition's programming, what does that say about the lefty mainstream media? I don't think "obliterated" would be a strong enough term. Sheesh, even Comedy Central's "news" shows perform better than the MSM.

ACORN is a national disgrace. I applaud Glen Beck for shining the cold light of day on this despicable sham.

Is "shut his mic off" akin to "shut up"?

andy is telling someone they're afraid of black people deserving of any less*?

*For the record, having his mic shut off was secondary to his being ousted from the studio.

Is "shut his mic off" akin to "shut up"?

I defer to liberal expertise in shutting up people for the answer to this question.

Andy42302 says,

Is "shut his mic off" akin to "shut up"?

No, actually it's akin to, "You're on my show, so behave and wait your turn or I'll turn your microphone off so I can talk".

If it were "shut up" as in, "We're gonna try to deny you the right to have your views heard" as Liberals often do, Mr. Beck would not have even given him space on the show.

Give it up, Andy - Levenson's a loser. Let his words and actions speak for him, and leave him to the fate he deserves.

As Jay says, "Isn't ACORN exactly the type of outfit for which the RICO statute was enacted?"

Cowlove, make some sense please. "Shut off his mic" came way before the alleged black comment.

Reminded me of Ronaldus Maximus during the primary debate in Nashua, NH.

"I am PAYING for this microphone, Mr. Breen."

Slightly off topic - but it came to mind....

Tony, nothing amazes more than those so blind that refuse to see. Read you own post man. Beck shut off the mic and basically said "We're gonna try to deny you the right to have your views heard". This "You're on my show, so behave and wait your turn" is asinine. There is no turn. Beck, like O'riely gets into a shouting match and refuses to yield until they cowardly "shut them up". It's the same ole same ole. Their ratings are akin to Ed McMan's or Huck Hogan's wrestling entertainment. If you guy's want to drink this fair and balanced kool aid, more power to you.

By the way, I'm not presenting an ACORN right or wrong argument.

Here I thought you were referring to Levenson being booted. I personally thought it was funny, considering the quality of the discourse.

Beck didn't actually shut him up until it was obviously necessary. It doesn't seem Levenson handles disagreement very well. Shocking, I know.

Andy,

For someone who is not defendin ACORN, you sure seem to be defending....ACORN.

Mr. Beck basically asked Levenson to quit acting like a jacka$$ - and when he didn't, they cut him off. Twice - which means they gave him a chance to be civil and he wouldn't.

Levenson was given an opportunity to come on the show (not a news show, a political commentary show named after it's host) and explain what led to all the allegations of voter registration fraud. He didn't address any of that, except to blame it on rouge employees and take absolutely NO responsibility for the oversight and management of said employees.

Levinson came off like the loudmouthed, amoral, self-absorbed racist sexist slimeball that he is - and was treated accordingly.

This was a LOT different from how CNN Reporter Susan Roesgen treated the "Tea Party" protesters - remember, she's allegedly a "journalist" reporting the "news" - not the host of a political and social commentary show.

You and your ilk didn't have a problem with that.

You probably squeal with glee listening to Keith Olbermann and Bill Maher, too, when they're trying to shout down those "Eeeeevil Conservative Christian Extremists".

Tony, let's be clear, I'm not "defenden" (sic) ACORN. ACORN is not the issue. Understand? That's something you decided to invoke, not I.

How do you deduce that Levenson acted as a jackass when he simply rebutted to Beck's accusation of ACORN's voter fraud. At or about time frame 4:20, Levenson answered that "voter fraud is not what we were charged with". Beck turned to the camera and put on his side show to the audience while simple shutting Levenson up. Watch it. This is simply an entertainment show and has no merit in the news world.

ANDY;
A conversation is where two or more people speak to each other, taking turns and replying to what the other said.
A debate is where two or more people have differing views and present the reasons they feel that these views are correct, or better than those of the other person.
NEITHER means talking while the other person trys to speak, shouting, flinging accusations, or generaly being a jerk. These are standard LIBERAL tactics.

Beck cut off his mike with good reason. If you can't act like an ADULT, you'll be treated like a CHILD.

There's something a lot more sinister going on at ACORN than anyone realizes, says former ACORN legal representative who was terminated when she asked for an audit of ACORN.

Conyers formerly demanded an audit of ACORN, but, under pressure, now publicly backpedals.

http://www.embezzlementnews.com/2008/11/acorn-fires-board-members-who-were-investigating-embezzlement-charges.html

"ACORN Fires Board Members Who Were Investigating Embezzlement Charges

According to a CNN report today, (Nov 13, 2008)
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/11/13/acorn.investigation/
community organizing group ACORN has fired two board members, Karen Inman and Marcel Reid, it had asked to investigate allegations that the brother of ACORN's founder embezzled nearly $1 million from the group eight years ago. Inman responded that the termination will lead to a criminal investigation.
There is already a lawsuit underway in which Inman and other members of a committee appointed to look into possible embezzlement and its concealment have sought access to ACORN books and records."

One current member refuses to leave ACORN, demands an audit, says Obama involved in wrongdoing;

http://www.foxnews.com/video2/video08.html?maven_referralObject=4909837&maven_referralPlaylistId=&sRevUrl=http://www.foxnews.com/glennbeck/index.html

The big difference between a guy spitting in your burger and the 'rogue' employees that were being charged with fraudulent voter registrations, is this: the guy spitting in the burger isn't breaking the law or a delegitimizing real people with real votes. Plus, the burger contaminator isn't breaking any laws.

Beck's questioning dealt with a clear mandate from Acorn higher-ups to meet a registration quota, which the spokesman was lying through his teeth about.

KHarn, what part do you not understand? Beck made an insinuation about voter fraud with ACORN and Levenson adds "that's not what we're charged with". Instead of rebutting that or even giving Levenson a chance to further dispute Beck's claim, Beck turns to the camera not for constructive debate but rather to belittle and dismiss Levenson's argument with rhetoric. When Levenson insist on not letting his agrument being pass over with irrelevant whitewash, Beck shuts him up. Look at it yourself. Scroll to about 4 minutes and 15 seconds into the clip.
If this were "taking turns and replying to what the other on said" why didn't Beck let him reply instead of shutting him up? Because he didn't what his point to stand up to scrutiny, that's why.

You see, Beck and O'Riely, like Limbaugh, are more into the entertaining business rather than constructive debate or in presenting facts as they are. Ratings go up with drama, somewhat like Judge Judy or perhaps World Wide Wrestling starring Stone Cold Steve Austin. Educated lawyers understand that Judge Judy's TV show is a mockery to the judicial system just as Sumo wrestlers understand that Austin is strictly for show. Either may still enjoy seeing either show, thus allowing the ratings to stay high. Some people however, see what they want to see and hear what they want to hear.

andy, I gotta get in on this because you just don't take no for an answer.

1. That man was a guest on beck's show. Therefore, he had to have known what his rules are. However, he chouse to act like a dick and got what was coming to him.

2. If someone was yelling and screaming at you, you'd want to get your voice in anyway, right?

3. Did you not read what the guy said during the break? If anything, he desereved to be thrown for such a racist comment.

If you cant act like an ADULT, then you get reated like a CHILD.

Also we know what it is. Dosen't mean we can't learn something from it.

3)Big_D, there's no relevance to what was allegedly said during break as that was after the fact. Follow me? Beck shutting Levenson up and refusing to let him respond was before the break. Listen to the clip starting at 4 min 15 sec.

2)I'm not seeing or hearing this "screaming and yelling". Listen to the clip starting at 4 min 15 sec.

3) Interesting point. I've always wondered why some folks come on and allow Beck, Bill O, et al. bash them like they do. I've seen people like Paul Krugman take thrashings from Bill. I just have to assume they can use the cash they're likely getting for their appearance on these entertainment shows.

My main point was that just a week ago you guys were crying the blues that liberals only rebuttals were to tell conservatives to "shut up". You played your witty little clip by Andrew Klavan blaming liberals for the exact same thing that Beck does. Only it's all fine and dandy because well, Beck is on your side. The hypocrisy is simply amazing.

When liberals know they're in trouble they try to "over talk" the person questioning them and all you get is incomprehensible cross talk. The liberals walk away from the exchange saying, "He really showed that conservative!" And the conservatives walk away from it saying, "Doesn't that liberal jackass know how to wait his turn to speak?"

Anonymous, it's funny how either side can look into any given situation and deduce that the worse of that situation is representative of the other side. For example, I could look at your post and say something like- it's always conservatives that will make accusations of liberals but too cowardly to sign their name so they just put "Anonymous". But I'm open minded enough to understand that it would be asinine for me to blame the conservative party for your lone cowardliness.

Your throw-a-rock-and-run post demonstrates a complete blindness. Talk shows, left or right, are usually dominated by the host. This was the case with Beck. Beck made an accusation and refused to let his guest respond. Levenson was playing offense from the very beginning. Now that's something that wingnuts may cheer about and it does make for good entertaining but it certainly doesn't validate you diatribe.

andy compare apples to apples. Klavan's clip, witty or not, was an analysis of leftist policy. Comparing that to the actions of two admitted entertainers is specious, regardless of your personal feelings for either one of them.

^Whoops, mine.

Point well taken. However, I suggest you view the Klavan clip once more. The rhetoric is waste deep. There's not really much in the clip that stands up to rational scrutiny.
Klavan wasn't a debate but rather a solo hatefest attacking anyone with left thinking ideologies. But, that's beside the point. My point was that when you see a guy like Klavan completely bash liberals while claiming liberals try to silence conservatives, you cheer. When you see a guy like Beck shut a liberal up because he's questioning Beck's bashing, you cheer. See the simularity.

By the way, I haven't expressed my feelings toward the two entertainers so I don't understand your accusation. Oh, wait, yeah I do.

I didn't suggest Klavan's clip was an example of rational debate. He was obviously hitting on liberal policy with rhetorical flourishes, no doubt about it. All I'm saying is that trying to draw a comparison between criticism of leftist policy and an entertainer turning off a guest's mic is not legitimate. To be clear, that's the premise of your entrance to this post:

Is "shut his mic off" akin to "shut up"?

It is most definitely "shutting him up." It is not, however, comparable at all to an overarching policy in the style of the Fairness Doctrine.

By the way, I haven't expressed my feelings toward the two entertainers so I don't understand your accusation.

Oh, comparing them to Stone Cold Steve Austin or Judge Judy must be your way of complimenting them. My mistake.

I have no issue with Austin or Judy, just as I have no issues with Nancy Cartwright who played the voice of Bart Simpson.

I'm not sure who your reference to the Fairness Doctrine pertains to. I'd say the overreaching is pretty wide spread, from both political machines. I think the Bush Regime did more to quell the press than any in history. He classified more documents than any other administration. He basically kept the results of his war on fear a secret from us while telling us "mission accomplished" and "insurgents in their last throes". He refused to let the media report on many aspects of it. When officials dissented or questioned the war, they were fired or demoted. Remember Valery Plame? I just find it funny that you guys bob your heads compliantly to Klavan's claim of "liberals telling us to shut up" while applauding Beck for shutting a liberal up.

Yeah, I suppose you can find discrepancies in my connection yet one is still somewhat proportional to the other. It's just that you guys try so hard to attack liberals that you sometimes look like fools. But, on occasions, that's to be expected of either side that are of the very extreme and distance themselves from mainstream America.

andy, focus. One of Klavan's principle points of contention was the Fairness Doctrine being a thinly veiled form of what he called leftist, "Shut Up," policy. Glen Beck shutting off one of his guest's mic does not compare, at all, even a little. I didn't say liberals were overreaching, I said the Fairness Doctrine was an overarching policy, and of course not at all comparable to a single person either shutting someone up, or telling them to shut up. You and I could both scour the internet for clips of people on the right and left ends of the spectrum telling people to shut up, and no amount of video would thus constitute a policy amounting to the Fairness Doctrine.

And why would you be so intellectually dishonest as to attempt a connection between Bush and the Fairness Doctrine? Do you know what the Fairness Doctrine is, and who its principle supporters are? Regardless of your feelings about Bush, or conservative ideals in general, I don't see how either is relevant to the topic. "It's just that you guys try so hard to attack liberals conservatives that you sometimes look like a fools."

Briefly, I've never expressed any contempt towards conservative ideals. Never. As a matter of fact, I agree with the majority of them however disagree with some. Don't confuse the Bush Regime as anything remotely close to Eisenhower Conservatism. Let me add, nowhere near Reagan either.

If you review Klavan's diatribe, the main focus was to bash liberals while using the controversial Fairness Doctrine as a tool to elevate his performance, much like that of Beck, O'Riely, et al. See what I mean? It's simply finding a niche to nourish their rhetoric. And from your own admission, "he was obviously hitting on liberal policy with rhetorical flourishes".

It's sad that Internet blogging is so often used to take issues, be it the Fairness Document, gay marriages, abortion, gun control, or whatever, and invoke all the historical and present shortcomings to pin on a party. This is what's so disturbing about today's conservative party. They have no voice so they rely on rhetoric and finger pointing. I don't buy it, nor are voters.

andy, pinning you down to one subject is harder than hitting a hopped up chipmunk from 50 yards with a BB gun.

And your trump card of "the GOP lost," has been overplayed. Conservatives relying on rhetoric and finger-pointing? That's called "politics," and neither party has a monopoly on it.

Back to the point, at least we can both agree now that Beck turning off someone's mic is not comparable to Klavan's complaint about liberal policy, rhetoric aside, correct?