« Obama's Brother Denied Entry to UK for Sexual Assault | Main | Lawsuit Will Force Westchester County to Build More Slums »

Message of fear and hate? Where was this clown when anti-war protestors were calling for Bush and Cheney to be tried and hung for war crimes along with anyone else who voted for them?

Moonbats should be afraid, VERY AFRAID. More and more people are on to them and arent just going to sit there while the US is converted in Europe. It will be like 1994 only bigger.

Interestingly enough, I wrote to some friends in China about these Tea Parties, and they it was a great idea, and applauded my participation. Sadly, at this point I have believe the US has become more communist than China. :(

"I hope the protesters fail in their mission to bring their message to a national audience. It's a message of fear, prejudice and, quite frankly, hate. … The Tea Party movement represents a real danger to the tenets of democracy Americans have embraced for centuries."

The tea parties are not about fear, prejudice, or hate towards the Democrat party or Obama: they are about conservatives feeling as tho our voices don't count AND our extreme displeasure (for lack of a better word) with the bailouts and overabundant spending by the administration, including President Bush in his last months.

I am a conservative attending our San Antonio tea party because I am tired of being taxed to pay for others' failures and bad decisions. I have no problem helping out those in need, but at my own discretion!

I'm surprised he didn't explicitly use the R-word, but I guess "prejudice" fills for that.

The way I've found of making sense of words leftists say is, I regard every one of them as projection. "Racism!" = "We are racists"; "Right-wingers are fascists" = "We want a Stalinist regime installed here"; "Conservatives don't care for the poor" = "We care for the poor's votes, and there it ends."

It all makes sense that way. The light dawned.

My take: The Tea Parties are the rough draft for a new conservative activism The tea parties will probably go away, but they can serve as the starting point for resistance to Obamunism.

The left has forced its agenda on America primarily through a very loud, very dedicated minority. The Tea Party movement may be the first sign of a right-wing counterforce against that. Which is a good thing.

you all do realize that it was 8 years of a careless,criminal and fiscally irresponsible Republican leadership that collapsed the American economy, don't you? Not three months of Democratic.

Hate???!!!!

Give me a break. What a childish moron.

fiscally irresponsible Republican leadership

Agreed. "Republican" does not always equal "conservative," and that's when the party loses to the donks.

hey Anony. 2 years of democrunt controlled congress was all it took to crash the economy. The president doesn't control spending, only congress. Tell odumbo to stop complaining about the Bush deficit when it was his ass that voted for it.

I Have mailed my postcards, and can't wait for the party to start!!

HLF, please go away

The economy has not collapsed - yet. The cause of it was a normal boom/bust cycle made worse by a few clown creating and trading derivatives and Democrats in Congress.

3 months? Democrats have been running the government for more than 2 years - Bush was just along for the ride. It wasnt until the Democrats took control of Congress that the economy began to tank. And things got worse in late 2008 as it became clear Obama would be the winner.

No one does hate and fear like a liberal. It's all they've got, and spew it 24/7.

In reality, their 'movement' is incredibly divisive, a mindset that stands in sharp contrast to Obama's calls for bipartisanship in this time of great national need.

Oh, OK. So now dissent is "divisive," because the Teleprompter Jesus has asked us not to criticize Him.

On my way to my first Tea Party, April 15th Woohoo!

No one does hate and fear like a liberal. It's all they've got, and spew it 24/7.

In reality, their 'movement' is incredibly divisive, a mindset that stands in sharp contrast to Obama's calls for bipartisanship in this time of great national need.

Oh, OK. So now dissent is "divisive," because the Teleprompter Jesus has asked us not to criticize Him.

On my way to my first Tea Party, April 15th Woohoo!

Anonymous is rebuked by this chart from the Washington Post. Showing that deficits were in decline throughout Bush's second term, until the Democrats took over Congress in 2007. The first Democrat budget (FY 2008) triples the deficit from the last Republican budget. (FY2007). Then, the deficit sky-rockets under the Obamacrat congress, from $400 Billion to almost $2,000 Billion.

They blame Bush and Republicans for burning leaves, when Obama-Reid-Pelosi started a forest fire.

"In reality, their 'movement' is incredibly divisive, a mindset that stands in sharp contrast to Obama's calls for bipartisanship in this time of great national need."

No, Mr. Shev, Mr. Obama's policies are what's divisive. This is merely the fruit. And bipartisanship? The context of that term so far in this administration makes it clear that "bipartisanship" means "do things OUR way".

Its not that the Republicans were so great, though they did cut taxes (the right thing to end the Clinton tech-bubble recession, which did work) but they didnt reign in spending - instead acting more like Democrats than Republicans.

Obama administration is just twice as bad as the previous Bush administration (2nd term). The reason Bushs approval rating in his 2nd term was so low is that many conservatives were ticked off because he betrayed conservative principles, at least on domestic policy)

So this isnt as much about Republicans vs. Democrats - its about Conservative vs. Socialist Liberal.

You guys need to take a look at who is sponsoring these tea parties. It is providing cover for corporate interests. If you are going to go out their and protest, I hope your signs read "Tax the Rich" or "Stop Wal-Mart"

"It's a message of fear, prejudice and, quite frankly, hate"

So let me get this straight.... anytime you oppose Barack Obama's attempts to bankrupt this nation and irreversably damage capitalism, you are doing so out of hate. See how this blackmail works? Its going to be a long, long, long four years.

It is providing cover for corporate interests.

I thought it was the joos?

Gregory, thanks for that chart, great stuff!

"With the notoriously conservative Tea Party movement gaining steam"

What a compliment! I feel so flattered! Sounds dangerous and cool and sexy....

"I hope the protester fail...." What a plagairist. Hanging around Biden much?

I would not expect anyone who cannot understand that we do not have a democracy to understand what is driving these demonstrations. We have a republic and are trying to keep it.

Nor do they comprehend that this isn't just about Obama or any party. It's about a government that thinks they are above the law, a congress that doesn't bother to even read the most massive boondoogle before voting on it that has now loaned our sovereignty to China's interests. It is a rejection of the attitude of intellectual superiority of those we send to congress to represent us, not to be our leaders. It is a rejection of the belief that we are smart enough to earn the money but not how to spend it. It is the idea that we want to tell these adolescents in Congress to heed the warning that enough is enough. The Republicans need to hear the rumbling of a conservative movement arising and they might ought to think about getting with it. If the Republicans want to join hands with the Democrats then why should the party even exist. As this guys article demonstrates, the left is just too clueless to even comprehend who the real mainstream is.

Come on Tax the rich, Stop walmart. get a life. It seems that the rich are paying all of the taxes, and what they have left is barely enough to go shopping at wal-mart.
My signs say I will not pay your mortgage, and Disent is not Racism. Woo hoo. looks like the libs are fearing for their life.

So, eight years of Bush being burned in effigy was the highest form of patriotism, but tea parties are dangerous, driven by hate and prejudice (against what exactly?) and in stark contrast to the healing unity that president "I won" seeks to bring to the nation's troubled soul.

Okay then.

Steph, you may want to spell check your sign before hand so you don't look even more ridiculous

Oh, I see, so now Wyatt Shev is the "voice for the left". Ok, gotcha... More on ole Wyatt:

"Wyatt is an unabashed atheist who says he's doomed whether or not the world ends on December 21, 2012. But that doesn't stop him from taking a dark interest in all things apocalyptic. Join him as he explores the various signs that portend the End of Days"

In reality? I think these tea parties are excellent. That's what our nation is all about, and that's why we will hopefully NOT have another civil war in this country. The fact that this many people can stage this many peaceful protests shows how far we've come as a nation. I don't agree with may of these people for the most part, but, I'm glad that they're getting out there and letting their voices be heard.

"You guys need to take a look at who is sponsoring these tea parties."

I have. Do you know what the phrase "grass roots" means?

"If you are going to go out their and protest, I hope your signs read "Tax the Rich" or "Stop Wal-Mart""

The rich are heavily taxed, far above their "fair share". The signs you want us to carry say what leftists want. We're against socialism, numbnuts.

"a second Civil War might not just be a cool idea for a sci-fi novel anymore."

Bring it on.

oonbats are afraid that the growing tea parties will uncover the nafarious plans for a soviet america as what the sinister CFR wants

Grassroots? Thanks for the laugh. I suggest you do some homework, and find out exactly what the Boston Tea Party was. If you feel the interests behind is going to protect the interests of the American people,you are sorely mistaken. The partisanship nonsense behind this leads back to the human muppet Newt. Well, at least you guys have your teabags...that's about it.

Great to hear of the chills we're giving them, Van. Now if only we can come up with an angle which will actually send them, lemming-like, over the nearest cliff.

Here is some audio for right-wingers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtvhncaFRfg&feature=channel_page

Well, basically the Left always believe they are the only people with a valid complaint; ergo nobody else has a valid reason to complain; ergo they're troublemakers. Since they also believe that no sane person can believe anything other than leftist dogma- standard sign of cult membership thinking thar- they always presume that any troublemakers must be shills for one of their betes noire i.e. "the corporations". Needless to say they have no concept even of what a private sector corporation actually is, since they're either unemployed, at school or in government funded, idiot funded or foundation funded work- bueaucracy, NGOs, pressure groups, fake charities, the Soros Network etc.

So, eight years of Bush being burnt in effigy was the highest form of patriotism, but tea parties show the hatred and prejudice that makes conservatives want to tear America apart, gotcha.

Ian - as soon as I hear the catchphrase 'corporate interests' or the even more eloquent 'the corporation$!!!111!!' I stop listening.you are right, I doubt most moonbats could actually define the word 'corporation' correctly.

Anonymous -- why not KMart? Or kentucky Fried Chicken? Are you sure Reverse Vampires and the Rand corporation are not involved somewhere? How do we know you're not a shill for a secretive network of farmers markets and hemp products cooperatives, sent here by your paymasters to blacken the name of innocent walmart shoppers?

Well said, Ian, as usual.

You guys need to take a look at who is sponsoring these tea parties. It is providing cover for corporate interests.

You're aware, of course, that the government is a corporation, right? (That is, a legal construct by which a group of individuals is treated as if it were a single individual.)

And no one is sponsoring the tea parties; I'm involved with one, and it's spreading by word of mouth. We don't have a dime, from anyone. Lefties' reflexive presumption of nefarious conspiratorial backers behind any movement raises the suspicion that's how they operate, and therefore assume others do as well.

If you are going to go out their and protest, I hope your signs read "Tax the Rich"

How about we compromise: "Tax the Liberal Rich?" And "Shop at Wal-Mart?"

www.taxdayteaparty.com

go there to see where your local T.E.A. party is being held.

Yes, I've been reading some blogs - the left really is in a tizzy about it ahaha

first of all anonynazi i'am suprised you didn't blame the jooooooooooos and anyways please stop with the hypocrisy

Neko at April 13, 2009 11:24 AM

I learned about the Boston Tea Party in 5th grade.
Newt jumped on the bandwagon after it got rolling. This has nothing to do with partisanship. We're as pissed at the Republicans as we are the Demoncrats. They're both to blame for the sad state of our nation.

It's nice to know we have the nitwits terrified.

"A stain spreads across Wyatt Shev's trousers as he whimpers in terror"

That image made me laugh, and laugh hard! Thanks.

Newt jumped on the bandwagon after it got rolling.

Besides, even if he had been involved in starting the tea parties, wouldn't that be his right? Or does he become an unperson because the left doesn't like him?

Wasn't dissent supposed to be patriotic, over the last 8 years?!?!

Now somehow it isn't?!!

Hey lefties, be afraid very very afraid.

In Canada (Now known as Canuckistan) I witnessed 40 years of Turdoh ruining our country with his sicialist BS. Don't let it happen to you!

No, no, Tod, it was treason that was the highest form of patriotism, not dissent. Try to keep up! /g

Moron moonbats keep forgetting that a tea party helped to forge this nation.

Moron moonbats keep forgetting that a tea party helped to forge this nation.

Moron moonbats who spit on gun-owning Bible-thumpers forget that our great nation was founded by gun-owning Bible Thumpers.

J, and Greg, I think that that is exactly why moonbats don't like tea parties and gun-owning Bible thumpers.

Guys, you are mistaken. The country was not founded by bible-thumping gun owners. The country's first radical, and best selling author Thomas Paine hardly was a Christian, and promoted liberal policies.

Thanks, Ghost of Wellstone!

Here is some audio for right-wingers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtvhncaFRfg&feature=channel_page

That audio was probably the worst thing any moonbat could have suggested all us TEA Party attendees to hear! Thanks, I needed a good laugh, I nearly wet myself, it was that frickin’ hilarious!

The country's first radical, and best selling author Thomas Paine hardly was a Christian, and promoted liberal policies.

One guy?? One effing guy? Please.

Also note that "liberal" in the 18th century meant opposed to aristocracy/monarchy. No connection with the nitwits calling themselves that today.

Such shoddy scholarship.

They just want us all to STFU

you all do realize that it was 8 years of a careless,criminal and fiscally irresponsible Republican leadership that collapsed the American economy, don't you? Not three months of Democratic.

Actually, the economy was doing fine even after a massive terrorist attack up until 2006 when the Democrats took control of Congress.

Of course, the chanting and marching of the fraudulent activist wackos from ACORN demanding that lenders give loans to those who could never afford them didn't help.

Also, take a look a this C-SPAN footage:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs

But you're certainly free to live in liberal fantasy land if you wish.

Anonymous: "Steph, you may want to spell check your sign before hand so you don't look even more ridiculous"

You might do the same before you go throwing stones. "Beforehand" and "spellcheck." Each is one word, genius. But thanks for playing our game.

Grassroots? Thanks for the laugh. I suggest you do some homework, and find out exactly what the Boston Tea Party was. If you feel the interests behind is going to protect the interests of the American people,you are sorely mistaken. The partisanship nonsense behind this leads back to the human muppet Newt. Well, at least you guys have your teabags...that's about it.

What a tremendously unenlightened diatribe.

"Dissent is the finest form of patriotism."

Remember that line the next time you mindlessly rant about partisanship.

Also note that "liberal" in the 18th century meant opposed to aristocracy/monarchy. No connection with the nitwits calling themselves that today.

Such shoddy scholarship.

This is very true.

Today's liberals are anything but, as they demand that everyone fall in step with their wacko philosophies. Anyone who speaks out against their ideology, is guilty of crimes of hate in their deluded eyes.

They are nothing more than communists masquerading as liberals, and frankly they are the most fascist, zealous, and irrational crazies on the planet since the zenith of Germany's socialist Nazi Party.

The country was not founded by bible-thumping gun owners.

The Puritans weren't hippies.

Your tea party is a product of hate, fear, and an attempt to promote fear. Your strategy might be better served if say, you had one. Polls indicate that people are ok with taxes but wait, that's not your issue is it? It's government spending, right? Isn't that something that you guys ran away with during the 109th Republican/Bush Regime era? Oh, it grew during the 110th (2006-2008) Democrat controlled House and Senate but wasn't this the two years of the most Republican filibusters in history? McConnell even promoted filibusters when Dems gave him what he wanted.
American voters gave your party an opportunity to lead this country but Republicans/neocans sold us out to corporate interests. We've seen your give-to-the-rich-and-let-it-trickle-down politics and it just doesn't work. Now you're promoting the same failed fear mongering that has put us where we are---while blaming it on Obama who's been in office for less than 3 months. This is not the ticket that will save the party of "no" and the supporters of a failed government. You are not only now the minority but you're of the lunatic fringe.

Wow, only a day in, and already there is a lively discussion going on here!
The left really is scared about this movement.
It is pretty funny that the loser who wrote the article talks about conservative citizens speaking out against the government's excesses and wasteful spending as being in opposition to Obama's call for bipartisanship. Obama's talk about bipartisanship is mere lip- service, intended to suggest he wants Republicans to fully support his policies. Even just looking at the people getting appointed to key positions in the Obama administration is showing that he himself doesn't give a crap about bipartisanship, and is making decisions motivated pretty much entirely by his own flawed ultra- liberal ideology.
The trolls' response to this is qutie unsurprising. There are two major accusations that liberals love throwing at conservative people and movements which they view as a threat:
1. Racism/ bigotry.
2. Being a puppet of evil corporate interests, or otherwise part of some kind of conspiracy to discredit liberals. Michael Moore is a master of this, having frequently accused people who criticize his movies or bring up the falsehoods littered throughout his movies of being willing or unwilling pawns of whatever mean old corporation or individual was intended as the villain of his most recent movie (i.e. After 'Roger and Me' came out, Moore was interviewed by a film critic who pointed out a few of the many falsehoods the film contained, and Moore responded, simply, "You've bought into their bulls&&t"). This tactic is clearly in full use by the liberals here.
Wednesday, I'll be going to my first tea party, at Orlando's city hall. That tea party's website points out that in addition to being a peaceful protest, it will also be a charity drive, with attendees encouraged to bring canned food or personal hygiene products to be distributed among Orlando's considerable homeless population.
Rather than bringing a protest sign, I am going to simply bring an American flag to wave.
I can hardly wait to go to it.

Oops, I meant "The trolls' response to this is quite unsurprising."
My bad.

... the growing Tea Party phenomenon: it scares moonbats witless.
V.H.

Ha, ha, ha! You got that right. As evidenced right here in this thread.

Root Cause = Liberals are so into their groop think that this is unthinkable.

After All:

'They Won' didn't they? They 'own' the media, don't they? They 'controll' two branches of the government, don't they?

It scares the hell out of them that the rest of the US (including some of their ranks) don't want to be poor and work harder being poor, just so what they work for gets taken and handed to people who are socialized (liberally) to be waitin for da man to hand em the free money.

They also might be realizing that they 'own' the problem and the polite person who lives next door might just go a little (liberally batty) wild on their asses, and hold them accountable.

Afterall, most normal center and right people can spot a Moonbat a mile away. Moonbats love to advertize.

On that note, I heard that Moonbats are scraping Obama bumper stickers off of their cars on the east coast. Anyone find an article on this?

My wife heard this and offered up one of my belt sanders................

Oh, and Gays still can not get married in CA because Democratic Party Voters voted strongly against Gay marriage in CA.

Think some of those Democratic Party Voters, who voted no to Gay marriage in CA may also be at the TEA Parties. Yup, I think so.

The moonbats can go get bolloxed.

I'm going to a protest on April 15. I'm thinking it might be a good idea to take the Commander with me

you all do realize that it was 8 years of a careless,criminal and fiscally irresponsible Republican leadership that collapsed the American economy, don't you? Not three months of Democratic.

Indeed moonbat, however, the tea parties have zero to do with Republican/Democrat party line BS. By the way moonbat, where are all of your anti-war protestors these days? Just to be fair in regards to the hypocricy issue.

Take away a liberal's hate and fear and what have you got?

Easy: ..........

Fight the fearmongerers: attend your local tea party on Wednesday. Reject fear. Reject hate. Reject liberalism.

attend your local tea party on Wednesday. Reject fear. Reject hate. Reject liberalism.

Gonna be there.

I read that Zazzle.com sales of TEA party gear is through the roof.

andy42302,

Clearly you are deeply ignorant, as is evidenced by your unenlightened rant.

Your tea party is a product of hate, fear, and an attempt to promote fear.

Explain why when your side dissents against Bush, it's a sign of patriotism, but when the other side dissents against Obama, it's a sign of hate and fear.

The problem here is that the word hate is grossly overused and misapplied these days, as exampled by your sentence. Criticism, even sarcastic criticism, is not hate. Not even if you want it to be, so that you can work towards legislating prohibitions against whatever your wacko philosophy deems as “hate speech.”

So your assertion is quite frankly ridiculous and sophomoric. You need to learn to be less sensitive.

indicate that people are ok with taxes but wait, that's not your issue is it?

Which polls? Also, if this is the case, then why do these tea parties exist? Or are you insinuating that those attending the tea parties are not people? I’m looking forward to your hateless response to this one.

It's government spending, right? Isn't that something that you guys ran away with during the 109th Republican/Bush Regime era?

Why is it that deluded pontificating morons such as yourself always seem to ignore the fact that many of us are not happy with the Republicans' spending that you point out either, which is what these tea parties are for. Are you unable to wrap your head around anything outside of a partisan concept?

We've seen your give-to-the-rich-and-let-it-trickle-down politics and it just doesn't work.

This, of course, is incorrect. I've never met a poor employer, nor have I ever worked for one. Ask yourself, if your own employer is adversely affected by Obama’s incorrect redistributive policies, do you think that it might affect your own employment adversely as well? How naïve can you people be?

The fantasy based philosophy that socialism and communism offers, that everyone can be equal, is a fairy tale. We've seen governments such as the former Soviet Union put into place the kinds of crackpot policies that you support, and the only equity that has resulted from them is equal misery.

When promises are made by government that everyone can have everything, one needs to compare that kind of utopian sales pitch to that of the Shamwow. The advertisement promises wonderful things, but when you get the product home and actually try to use it, it never lives up to its promises. So it is with socialism.

Didn't you ever hear your parents say, "if it sounds too good to be true, that's because it is?"

Now you're promoting the same failed fear mongering that has put us where we are---while blaming it on Obama who's been in office for less than 3 months.

Tell us how long you waited after Bush's inauguration to begin your patriotic dissent against him.

This is not the ticket that will save the party of "no"

Must be talking about the Democrats.

Cigarette Smoking - no.
Offshore drilling - no.
Free radio airwaves - no.
Free markets - no.
Employers determining pay - no.
Gun ownership - no.
Citizens keeping and spending their own earned money - no.
Affordable energy – no.
Heat set at 72 degrees – no.
Protecting our borders – no.
Enforcing legitimate and reasonable immigration laws – no.

and the supporters of a failed government.

This statement truly illustrates your inability to grasp reality. Somalia is a failed government. The former Soviet Union is a failed government. Zimbabwe is a failed government. America doesn't even come close, not even during the widely acknowledged disastrous Carter administration, the most miserable 4 years that Americans of that age have ever known.

You sir, are simply a spoiled whiney child.

You are not only now the minority but you're of the lunatic fringe.

I'm afraid you’re projecting. Tea Party goers are those who want to return to the tenets that gave birth to the most prosperous nation the Earth has ever known. Neither socialism, nor its more aggressive relative communism have ever accomplished that. America stands as a nation where even the poor are envied by the poor in the rest of the world, despite the so-called progressive agenda to cut us down to size.

The real lunatic fringe consists of those who want to take us down the path of truly failed governments, like the former Soviet Union, where folks disappeared into gulags for expressing “patriotic dissent” or were shot for trying to escape over a wall from social justice.

Generations of immigrants from all over the world came to America, many of whom were attempting to escape from the very kinds of socialist/communist policies that you now want to inflict America with. None of them put their own lives at risk to get here for the promise of socialist oppression.

If you want socialism, then leave. Move to Venezuela. It’s choc-full of social justice so it should be a paradise for you.

It seems that you desperately want to sound wise while lacking the necessary experience that would allow you to do so. But it's very important for you to understand that self loathing never successfully camouflages a complete lack of true wisdom.

RightOfReagan --
I've been keeping my eyes open for a good anti-war protest in my extremely progressive hometown for months... No luck. And that evil, oppressive Patriot Act doesn't seem to be so vile among lefties anymore. Fundamental transformation somehow no longer includes the Patriot Act since it seems to have quietly dropped off their blacklist.

In reality, their 'movement' is incredibly divisive, a mindset that stands in sharp contrast to Obama's calls for bipartisanship in this time of great national need.

sooooo, coming together is divisive?
guess the libs don't like it so much when that stuff they keep flinging blows right back in their faces, eh? Thats right, two can play at this protest game and the conservatives just might be better at it. You guys should be scared, because people are tired of government "tax and waste" policies.

J -- Well done.

A few more for the Dems 'No' list:

Life
Family
Traditional marriage
Religion
Christian morality
School choice
Self-reliance/individualism
Strong military
Nation state
Capitalism
Food choices (sugar, trans-fats...)
Incandescent light
Health care choices
Competition
Risk taking
Nuclear energy
Corporations
Private salary contracts
Small government
Conservative ideology
Israel
The U.S. Constitution
Liberty
Tea parties
Truth

... the growing Tea Party phenomenon: it scares moonbats witless.

Moonbats were already witless. (Witness the sanctimonious posturing that cheeky pictures of attractive women on my blog constitute 'soft core pornography'). The tea party phenom has just made them wet their pants submissively.

SQUAWK SQUAWK SQUAWK BEWARE MOONBATS I FLU-BIRD IS COMMING TO RALPH UP ON YOUR HEADS HYUK,HYUK,HYUK BIRD BARF ALL OVER YOU SQUAWK SQUAWK SQUAWK HYUK,HYUK,HYUK

J, you omitted a statement that I made: "Your strategy might be better served if say, you had one". The contents of your diatribe (with an add on backup from Ivb-rocks) indicates that your interests are not about taxation and/or spending but rather about your disapproval of those in power and their ideologies. You seem more determined to show your dislike (I'll stay away from the word "hate") for Democrats and to promote a concern (vrs the word "fear")of their ideologies than you are about higher taxes (which would only go towards the one's that got the previous tax breaks while the rest of Americans were lowered in the stimulus plan) and government spending (that from your own admission ran rampant during the Bush years).

You question: "why when your side dissents against Bush, it's a sign of patriotism, but when the other side dissents against Obama, it's a sign of hate and fear" further supports my argument that this is more of an attempt to weaken the Obama administration than it is about taxes without representation. So, what exactly is it that you're protesting again?

The Gallop poll indicates that the majority of people are content with our current taxes. I didn't indicate anything about the tea party attendees as you've suggested. It is interesting however that it's mainly being trumped up with corporate funding and the cheer leading of FOX News.

If my trickle-down assessment is so wrong, why isn't our economy booming? Why didn't it work. Conservatives controlled all 3 branches of government and implemented the most generous corporate coddling in history. You're trying to suggest that it works. I strongly recommend you acquire just a small bit of your info from other than FOX News or The New York Post. It DID NOT work and the economy is now in shambles.

By the party of "no", I'm referring to your party that has refused to listen to the voters and has roadblocked any and every piece of legislation in order to shut the government down--only to accuse Dems of being a "do nothing" party. I'm referring to the bobbing head allegiance to Rush and Hannity in their hopes that the government "fails". The people have rejected this strategy and have soundly ousted Republicans from power. Now they cling to this Pied Piper tea party nonsense that they hope will rally people around them through old and worn out deceitful tactics. I'm reading that somewhere around 25% of the folks are buying into it. That's about the same amount that still think that GWB's the best thing since sliced bread and a similar amount that think the sun revolves around the earth.

Well said Andy

Andy you sound like you're trying to convince yourself of the blabber that you spew.

OK Farmer, you're right. The polls lied about people content with no tax increases in 16 years, Bush will likely go down in history as the best president ever, the Republicans saved the economy with their conservative restraint over the past 8 years, and the American people just really loved them in the last two elections. What the hell was I thinking?

our local arae is planning a TEA PARTY were going to mail OBAMA some teabags with something written on them all

Andy,

you omitted a statement that I made: "Your strategy might be better served if say, you had one".

I didn't find this statement particularly important. But let me ask you, would the exact same strategy then be applicable to the fraudulent activist group ACORN, or any of the other activist wackos who march and chant on a seemingly daily basis?

The contents of your diatribe (with an add on backup from Ivb-rocks) indicates that your interests are not about taxation and/or spending but rather about your disapproval of those in power and their ideologies.

Your psychic legerdemain is only partially correct. You are incorrect in that my interests are not about taxation and/or spending, they are. But you are correct in that my interests are about my disapproval of those in power and their ideologies. I am interested in both. There is nothing wrong with that whatsoever, as any professional Bush basher ought to know from their own experience.

You seem more determined to show your dislike ...for Democrats and to promote a concern ...of their ideologies than you are about higher taxes ... and government spending (that from your own admission ran rampant during the Bush years)

Firstly to call these people Democrats is an insult to true Democrats. Here's a short lesson for you:

"And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you - ask what you can do for your country." - John F. Kennedy

"...Warren Court interpreted in the same way that generally the Constitution is a charter of negative liberties, says what the states can't do to you, says what the federal government can't do to you, but it doesn't say what the federal government or the state government must do on your behalf. And that hasn’t shifted." - Barack Obama

So here we have two leading Democrats, one saying that you shouldn't ask what your country can do for you, the other saying that it was not a civil rights success that the Warren court never ironed out what your country can do for you.

So clearly the Democratic Party is so only in name now. To use Trekkian phraseology, the Democratic Party has been assimilated by the socialist collective, and is worse off for it.

Were it still the party of JFK, I would be a Democrat. Unfortunately, it is clearly not.

Secondly, the socialist ideology under the guise of Democratic policy is inherently unAmerican. It's not merely a matter of disliking or disagreeing with policies as I did both under Bush and Clinton, but rather the fact that we now have the enemy's ideology destroying America from within with the seductive lure of socialist/communist snake oil, and the pipe dream commonly referred to as social justice.

You question: "why when your side dissents against Bush, it's a sign of patriotism, but when the other side dissents against Obama, it's a sign of hate and fear" further supports my argument that this is more of an attempt to weaken the Obama administration than it is about taxes without representation. So, what exactly is it that you're protesting again?

It’s an argument that I see no reason to run away from. But placing your dodge aside, why don't you answer the question specifically and directly, then I'll answer yours. I'll even repeat it for you:

Explain why when your side dissents against Bush, it's a sign of patriotism, but when the other side dissents against Obama, it's a sign of hate and fear. Please answer this specifically in your very next response.

The Gallop poll indicates that the majority of people are content with our current taxes.

Polls are a funny thing. Folks cite them when they're in their favor, and dismiss them when they're not. For instance a recent Gallup poll also showed Americans lean against closing Guantanamo. But I'm guessing you'll never cite that one. In addition, polls are often times outright wrong, so they never bolster an argument.

Furthermore you didn't make that statement originally. Originally you stated, "Polls indicate that people are ok with taxes but wait, that's not your issue is it?" Well, not everyone is not o.k. with taxes, hence part of the reason for the tea parties.

It is interesting however that it's mainly being trumped up with corporate funding and the cheer leading of FOX News.

If this is what you believe, then you haven't been following along. The tea parties began organizing long before FOX began reporting on them. In fact, many tea parties have already taken place, again before FOX began reporting on them. And corporate funding? There is no billionaire George Soros funding these tea parties.

Furthermore, the fact that the MSM will follow and report on a dozen or so protestors for any given leftist issue, and completely ignore the thousands that came together at Cinncinati speaks volumes about their lack of journalistic integrity. Far from trumpeting anything, FOX is simply doing their job, and reporting.

If my trickle-down assessment is so wrong, why isn't our economy booming? Why didn't it work. Conservatives controlled all 3 branches of government and implemented the most generous corporate coddling in history. You're trying to suggest that it works.

Is it as good as it could be? No. But for some to compare this to the Great Depression is just laughable. When you have to eat cows tongue and pigs feet just to survive, then talk. Until then, you're just whining.

But to think that socialist/communist tenets provide the answers to our problems is a joke. Folks who live in those sorts of countries under those kinds of oppressive policies, do not enjoy prosperity of any sort.

But we don't have to go that far. Look no further than Detroit as the crown jewel of so-called liberal economic policy. Have you driven through it lately?

It DID NOT work and the economy is now in shambles.

This is an outright absurd statement. Even though you capitalized all those letters for emphasis, you’re still incorrect. It did work, and continues to work. If you have an employer in the private sector, then your paycheck is physical evidence of this.

Furthermore, the fact that you can apparently afford to pay your internet bill to type your idiocy on a blog, shows that to use the word shambles to describe the economy when there are nations where people are consigned to laying on a reed matt on a dirt floor in a mud hut dying of hunger from being unable to purchase a simple bowl of rice, shows just how much of a spoiled child you really are and have no conception of what a bad economy is.

Using the word shambles is a ridiculous irrational misapplication of the word.

You should be deeply ashamed of yourself.

I strongly recommend you acquire just a small bit of your info from other than FOX

It's very important for you to realize, that attempting to use psychic powers oftentimes leads you to be incorrect. Fortunately for you, in this case you’re only partially incorrect.

I gain my news from a wide variety of sources, because unlike horse blinded liberals, I like to hear and read more than one opinion.

But I absolutely do include FOX in that mix, as there's certainly nothing wrong with it, and nothing to be defensive about in consuming it. Certainly they don't make up stories out of whole cloth, say like Kos, or Dan Rather at CBS. If they did, you can be certain it would be the top story on every other network.

I would strongly suggest that you include FOX news in your news consumption.

I'm referring to the bobbing head allegiance to Rush and Hannity in their hopes that the government "fails".

Oh, then your reference would be incorrect. I'm certainly no fan of Rush or Hannity, I find them both annoying. But you have it wrong in that they hope the government fails; rather they hope that Obama's agenda fails, and frankly so do I.

The people have rejected this strategy and have soundly ousted Republicans from power.

They certainly did. But just because they rejected Republicans for a term, as did I, does not in any way mean that they subscribe to wacko socialism/communism, beyond the few hippie wannabe Che worshippers. You may be too young to remember how Carter lost the 80' election, so you may be in for a surprise in 2010 and/or 12. Only time will tell.

I'm reading that somewhere around 25% of the folks are buying into it. That's about the same amount that still think that GWB's the best thing since sliced bread and a similar amount that think the sun revolves around the earth.

If you're getting those numbers from the MSM or any of the leftist kook blogs who use polls to generate news, then I expect those numbers to be deflated, just as they were for GWB even though he was certainly not the best thing since laser sliced bread. But, we’ll see.

Obama's calls for bipartisanship
Which call was that? was it this one:
I won

J, I don't have the time nor do I see a reason to touch on each statement only to engage in a spin contest. I will respond to your question concerning
"why when your side dissents against Bush, it's a sign of patriotism, but when the other side dissents against Obama". I don't recall mass protest against "Bush". I do recall anti-war protest and protests concerning social security. You see, people didn't hate and/or bash Bush because his last name only had 4 letters or because he wore a funny looking helmet when he rode his bike. They objected to actions such as manufactured intelligence for war, his response to Katrina, his tax breaks to only the wealthy (please don't insult me with the $20 tax break for the average 50K earners because that is really no tax break at all), the cronies that he put in professional positions, his pampering of the wealthy, and his gross incompetence that became more apparent each day of his 8 years.

I'm detecting that you believe that the economy is just fine and that we need to stay the course of the previous administration. I, like the majority of Americans as well as the rest of the world, disagree. Obama has been in office for 3 months. If you oppose the stimulus package, fine. Oppose it, protest it, pound sand if you like. I'm just wondering why you're hiding under the excuse of taxation when taxes were lowered for most Americans under that package. Obama supports tax decreases for MOST Americans.

I do happen to remember the Carter years well. It has similarities to what we're dealing with today.
We're seeing a previous administration relinquishing the drivers as the bus plunges over the cliff. Obama's ratings will likely go down as he works to put Bush's pushed Humpty Dumpty back together again. Rising from the Bush's ashes isn't going to be easy. It will take sacrifice and commitment, not a bunch of wingnuts rebelling without a clue at the prodding of anti-Obama and anti-America folks like Sean Hannity and Glen Beck.

Again Andy, well said.

"I don't recall mass protest against "Bush"."

Well, I do.

Andy,

J, I don't have the time nor do I see a reason to touch on each statement only to engage in a spin contest.

Wait a minute, weren't you the guy pointing out how I missed responding to one of your points?

That's o.k. Just pick the easy ones.

I don't recall mass protest against "Bush".

Then you were asleep for 8 years.

You see, people didn't hate and/or bash Bush because his last name only had 4 letters or because he wore a funny looking helmet when he rode his bike.

Come on now, watch the "hate."

They objected to actions such as manufactured intelligence for war, his response to Katrina, his tax breaks to only the wealthy (please don't insult me with the $20 tax break for the average 50K earners because that is really no tax break at all), the cronies that he put in professional positions, his pampering of the wealthy, and his gross incompetence that became more apparent each day of his 8 years.

Well, if one consigns oneself to consuming only MSM news and wacko leftist blogs, then these distorted and incorrect views of reality would certainly be viewed as legitimate gripes.

But if this is the case, then you should "hate" Obama, for many of the same reasons.

The intelligence was not manufactured, as 550 metric tons of yellowcake uranium was transported out of Iraq to Canada. You’ll probably argue it wasn't weapons grade and that Iraq possessed the yellowcake legally (lol), so I’m guessing that you would have preferred that Iraq had reached the point to which North Korea is at now, perhaps further before action was taken. That way you could blame Bush for not doing anything to prevent it. Hussein’s Halabja poison gas attack also seems to escape notice from the reality challenged.

On the other side of the coin, it now appears that Obama’s troop withdrawal from Iraq is manufactured. His plan would leave more than 50K troops in Iraq until at least 2011, perhaps longer. This is not so far removed from the Bush Iraq plan.

Katrina was grossly exaggerated. There were many warnings for people to evacuate New Orleans previous to the onslaught of Hurricane Katrina. Many citizens simply ignored those warnings. Furthermore, the citizens of New Orleans are, or should be, fully aware they live in a city that lies in a path where hurricane formations commonly traverse. So much of the blame for “failure to respond” can be placed squarely on the citizens of New Orleans for being ill prepared and failing to respond to repeated warnings.

On the other side of the coin, it could be said that Obama has failed to deliver the exact same amount of expected response, relief and attention to the floods in Iowa, the Katrina of the Midwest. Why is George Clooney not hosting a telethon? Where are essential food and water services? Where is FEMA? Why can’t displaced Iowans get relocated rentals and hotel rooms paid for by the Federal Government? Or is it that responses to natural disasters are lacking only when they victimize perceived minorities while a Republican is President?

As far as cronies, are you serious? Every administration hires cronies, including Obama’s. Get your head out of your ass. Seriously.

Pampering of the wealthy, and tax breaks to the wealthy, are really the same point being made twice in the interest of over emotional self exasperation. I have no problem with tax breaks to the wealthy. Why should I? There is nothing wrong with tax breaks to the wealthy, anymore than there’s anything wrong with tax breaks for the middle class. Tax breaks for the poor on the other hand, become an issue because those under certain levels of income do not pay any taxes, so I’m not sure that would qualify as social justice (tee hee). But the real question is who decides what level of income is considered wealthy, and what qualifies that person to make that determination?

If you want to talk about incompetence, Obama certainly is the physical embodiment of incompetence itself. Bush, though a poor President, doesn’t even come close. Beyond giving brilliantly written speeches, there’s little else to Obama. When you begin to look into his backwards and radical philosophies, you begin to see the man is quite simply not worthy of the office he now holds. It’s painfully obvious, that the man has little idea if any on what do on many fronts, and is relying on his own dogmatic rhetoric to carry him through the day. The moonbat messiah who would be loved by the world, is being challenged, laughed at, and mocked by world leaders who see him as he is: a naïve weakling. Obama’s flop sweat can be seen for miles.

I'm detecting that you believe that the economy is just fine and that we need to stay the course of the previous administration.

Your psychic detection equipment is off kilter, once again leading you to be incorrect. As I stated in one of my previous responses to you above, is the economy as good as it could be? No. But to use the word shambles to describe it is outright absurd, and ridiculously overly dramatic. It’s quite simply a misapplication of the English language.

I, like the majority of Americans as well as the rest of the world, disagree.

Well, you should all try living in socialist Zimbabwe for a month and compare. I dare you.

If you oppose the stimulus package, fine. Oppose it, protest it, pound sand if you like. I'm just wondering why you're hiding under the excuse of taxation when taxes were lowered for most Americans under that package. Obama supports tax decreases for MOST Americans.

I do oppose the unread stimulus bill, as should any thinking American. But I’m not hiding under anything, and see no reason to do so. Maybe that’s what frustrates you the most, that I’m not defensive towards your inane accusatory attacks. Taxation is always a concern, among many concerns. The fact that Obama supports tax decreases for “most” Americans, is exactly the problem. It is a redistributive, and thus incorrect, policy. Tax breaks should be supported for ALL Americans. (See how I capitalized every letter in the word all? I guess that means you can’t argue against that point now.)

Rising from the Bush's ashes isn't going to be easy. It will take sacrifice and commitment, not a bunch of wingnuts rebelling without a clue at the prodding of anti-Obama and anti-America folks like Sean Hannity and Glen Beck.

Honestly, could you be any more of a dramatic little princess? What ashes (outside of Detroit)? Sure Bush was a crappy President, but true Americans forge their own destiny and rightly do not rely on government as the sole provider of their prosperity and cradle to grave care. In many ways, you sound like the lobster backs that looked down their noses at the Yankee riff raff. Good. You will then help to inspire us to continue our efforts.

But you should to come down off your imaginary ivory throne if you wish grasp certain Earthly realities.

Your wacko liberal philosophy, born out of the smoky mind-altering bong hits of the Woodstock era, does not make you enlightened, it does not entitle you to hold public office, it does not entitle you to dictate public policy, and it certainly does not entitle you to rewrite the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

You have things completely backwards which isn’t surprising because liberals live in upside down world. Hannity and Beck, though annoying, are the antithesis of anti-Americanism.

Socialism is inherently anti-American. Communism is inherently anti-American. Thus Obama’s agenda is inherently anti-American and should be opposed. So anti-Obamaism is a good thing, and should be pursued and promoted widely.

The real anti-Americans, the folks who quite frankly just don’t belong here, are folks such as you who push for an anti-American socialist/communist agenda.

Seriously, move to socialist Zimbabwe. That’s not a flippant statement but a genuine suggestion, as it seems you would be happier in a place where the policies you support are already in place. Send me a postcard.

They objected to actions such as manufactured intelligence for war

You must have a non-functioning brain stem, these Intelligence reports were put together by the CIA, DOD, MIA,NSA,DOE, et al using not only U.S intelligence but International intelligence of the Saddam regime. Since the invasion liberals have seemed to forget not only were the Democratic Congressmen given access to this intelligence, they were given access to the analysts that prepared it. The U.N believed that Saddam Hussein had significant amounts of hidden CB/W, as did just about every Western intelligence agency. The Democrats voted for war, and like you idiots now claim it was "manufactured" despite their non-objections at the time.

Yawn! Again, I don't recall mass protests against George W. Bush. I don't recall mass protests against conservatives. I don't recall a major news network orchestrating such a movement as this against a POTUS or against the party of opposition. I do recall a large concern over the actions and conduct of GWB and Republicans during the past 8 years. There's a major difference. Once again for fear you've misunderstood, you are the minority and you are indeed of the lunatic fringe. America will rise above the mess we're in, regardless of your efforts to insure that she fails.

Once again, what exactly are you wingnuts bitching about anyway?

Andy,

Again, I don't recall mass protests against George W. Bush. I don't recall mass protests against conservatives.

Again, you must have been asleep for 8 years.

I don't recall a major news network orchestrating such a movement as this against a POTUS or against the party of opposition.

Are you really that dense, or just willfully ignorant? Perhaps both.

But for 8 years they played into every hackneyed protester mob who said anything negative about Bush. All of the major news networks actively worked on behalf the TOTUS' moronic "Hope & Change" snake oil. They actively campaigned for dumb ass Obama, and against the doddering McCain, breaking their trust with the public to become advocates for their own biased political persuasions.

This is why it's so important to not trust their "journalism." They have become mouthpieces of the current Administration, nothing more.

I do recall a large concern over the actions and conduct of GWB and Republicans during the past 8 years

No, what you recall is a liberal (wacko)concern, which is to say that it wasn't a very legitimate concern to begin with. Certainly not a concern based in actual reality.

Once again for fear you've misunderstood, you are the minority and you are indeed of the lunatic fringe.

This sentence is yet further proof of your inability to grasp actual reality. Apparently you prefer to wrap yourself in the comforting warmth of your own deluded fantasy. Hopefully one day you will come to terms with your idiocy, as expressed by your written thoughts.

The 48% who voted against Obama does not represent a fringe minority, even if you keep parroting it like the obedient Obamabot that you are. In fact, since you like to cite polls, here’s one for you:

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/mood_of_america/trust_on_issues/trust_on_issues

Your sentence further indicates that you lack essential reading comprehension; for if you had bothered to read my “diatribe” you would know that I am not a Republican. Your sad allegiance to a party flag makes you ill prepared for these sorts of arguments.

The fact that you don't consider the faction that weeps over cut trees, attempts to pet polar bears, and falls in love with bridges to be the real lunatic fringe is laughable.

America will rise above the mess we're in, regardless of your efforts to insure that she fails.

Again, as a liberal you live in bizarro world. The only way America can rise is to oppose socialist/communist policies, which are the cause of real messes as is evidenced by the former Soviet Union, Zimbabwe, Venezuela, Cuba, Detroit, and other such leftist hell holes. To return to the original tenets of America’s founding which placed us squarely on top of the world, and which moronic leftist ideology thankfully had nothing to do with.

Once again, what exactly are you wingnuts bitching about anyway?

A variety of things. Taxation is one of them. A move towards adopting incorrect socialist/communist policies are another, as is the improper massive growth of government. We are equally angry at Republicans as well, and if you watch anything outside of O TV, you may see or read reports where Tea Party goers denounce overreaching and improperly acting Republicans as well. Too bad that will put a wrench in your ability to wage a partisan war over the issue.

Now that I’ve answered your question, are you going to go back and answer all of mine that you dodged? Probably not.

Yawn! Again, I don't recall mass protests against George W. Bush.
http://www.zombietime.com/

Take your pick moron.