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If anyone wants a higher-res version for reuse, it's a great way to promote Moonbattery:
http://www.tagito.com/fj/pirates.jpg

Obama's going to be pissed now - those mean old Seals killing those poor disenfranchised muslims like that.

Actually Obama approved the use of force for this situation

actually Obama approved the use of force for the mission

Obama is obviously a warmonger who advocates violence over diplomacy.

This is a simple case of the rich evil imerialistic America using it's power to keep the rest of the world oppressed.

The teleprompter tells us to try and understand the Pirates point of view.......it is the wealthy nations of the world that have horded and used the worlds resources for their benefit.......and it is only just and natural that the Somali Pirates seek the compensation that they deserve from both a moral and legal standpoint.

OK, I'm done. It's painful trying to be this retarded.

Betula, you are precisely correct.

Yes, we're going to hear from the liberal whack-jobs that the pirates are just "misunderstood" and "oppressed" because "why else would they be trying to steal $millions from the capitalist pigs on the high seas."

Liberalism is a psychological and moral disease.

Anonymous we all appreciate that Obama approved the use of force. It is the sworn duty of the office. But the fact that you are compelled to proclaim that he did it, as if to say "see, our side can stand up too" does little other than to show that your side is aware of their cowardice and normal pattern of enemy sympathizing, yet is happy to appear otherwise, if only for a moment.

Unlike the BDS that your side used to shame president Bush personally for eight years, you will note that our side takes issue with the deeds of your guy only, never stooping to humiliate the man or the office.

Can anyone point me to any evidence that Obama actually did order it, and when? Are we going to find that he gave a specific order or just said 'do anything necessary' or some similar vague 'order'? After all Hilary said they were looking for a '21st century solution'
This seems more like a 16th century solution when they hanged them out of hand.

I read this bit just after the last post. Just as I figured. It was a Navy commander who took the action, doing what his judgment called for, with nothing to do with Obama apart from a vague statement. And dont try to tell me to 'take necessary action' is code for 'kill them' - it's double-speak.

"Obama's quiet backstage decision to authorize the Defense Department to take necessary action if Capt. Richard Phillips' life was in imminent danger gave a Navy commander the go-ahead to order snipers to fire on the pirates holding the cargo ship captain at gunpoint"

And get a look at that word 'imminent' Vaguer made vaguer and vaguer until you havent a clue what his 'order' is.

Not at all, I was simply responding to
"Obama's going to be pissed now - those mean old Seals killing those poor disenfranchised muslims like that. "
saying that he approved of the methods he ordered.
also, I hate to point this out but while you may be somewhat more rational and point out issues rather than personal traits some of your supporters seem less inclined.
"Liberalism is a psychological and moral disease.

Posted by: Joe in Indiana at April 12, 2009 6:40 PM"
and your side is somewhat inappropriate as I am a moderate

So now were all supposed to praise Osama Bin Barack b/c he did his job? Would one praise an employee at Burger King just for cooking their whopper to order? Furthermore, there was nothing else Obama could do. He HAD to authorize this, b/c if that captain had died at the hands of Mooslims, even a dumbass like B Hussein knows his goose would be cooked. I'm waiting for word from Reverend Wright on the murderous actions of his most famous graduate of the Church of Black Hate. Surely the peacenik freakshows who've been catterwauling like babies over the last 8 years anytime we killed a brown terrorist, will not approve of this. WILL THEY?

actually Obama approved the use of force for the mission
Posted by: anonymous at April 12, 2009 6:09 PM

By golly - he did! But I'm sure he'll make up for it since the pirates have promised revenge. Maybe he'll give them 'stimulous' (pay them off) to quit be pirates.

actually paying them off to not be pirates would be reminiscent of the policy instituted by bush in Iraq, where we paid off quite a few local militia's to stop actions against the U.S.

Mooslims? really, is that supposed to be ironic?

To "anonymous at April 12, 2009 8:54 PM":

I stand by what I said. When liberals try to call everything good in the world as "bad", and everything bad in the world as "good" (ie- justify the killing of babies (abortion) and desiring release terrorists at Gitmo, and kill innocents like Terri Schiavo) then it is an undisputable fact that Liberalism is a moral and psychological disease.

When one's belief system starts finding excuses to kill babies, reward laziness (welfare) and let the thugs go free, it's time for a gut check and a change.

actually paying them off to not be pirates would be reminiscent of the policy instituted by bush in Iraq, where we paid off quite a few local militia's to stop actions against the U.S.

Mooslims? really, is that supposed to be ironic?

I'm the one who called them "Mooslims", so I assume you directed that @ me. The answer is NO, it's not "ironic", and i'm not quite sure you know the meaning of the word. Care to elaborate?

Then I am sure you know it is spelled Muslims

To Joe:
although really not totally relevant I'll try to address this anyway, abortion is mainly an argument about defining when a fetus is considered a child, personally I disapprove of abortion, not everyone fits the stereotypes.
Gitmo- really, a travesty like that should never occurred in the first place, we should have had trials and proper observation of legal rights from the beginning.
Terri Schiavo- cases like that should really be personally up to the individuals involved
welfare- it is not intended to reward laziness, if it does it should be amended, it is meant to provide an equal starting point

"Yes, we're going to hear from the liberal whack-jobs that the pirates are just "misunderstood" and "oppressed" because "why else would they be trying to steal $millions from the capitalist pigs on the high seas.""

Actually, this liberal moonbat would have liked to have been the one to pull the trigger on these terrorist assholes. But, if it makes you feel better to think we'd support the pirates, ok. Whatever gets you through the night toots....

"Surely the peacenik freakshows who've been catterwauling like babies over the last 8 years anytime we killed a brown terrorist, will not approve of this. WILL THEY?"

Uuuh, excuse me asswipe? We really don't mind when TERRORISTS are killed... it's just when their innocent neighbors or family members get blown up... yeah, sure, that's a bit of a problem. And if you're a good god fearing conservative, then maybe you should have a problem with that as well.

Are you ashamed of your opinions, anonymous?

absolutely not, however in the past I have received quite a bit of harassment for having a "discussion" with people, and anonymous is as fitting to me as any other pseudonym

"...actually paying them off to not be pirates would be reminiscent of the policy instituted by bush in Iraq, where we paid off quite a few local militia's to stop actions against the U.S."
ashamed at April 12, 2009 9:02 PM

Oh really? Did you just make that up or have you been using it for a while? It seems to me the Obamamedia would have been all over that were it true. I'm not saying it's not true (despite what you dipshits actually believe, most conservatives hold Bush in contempt), but please document your little claim. Do you have a few MSM "news" stories to back up your bullshit?

anonymous at April 12, 2009 10:19 PM

Ooooooooo - are there big-bad conservatives hiding uder your bed?

That's my last reply to an "ashamed" paranoid dipshit.

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1861424,00.html
best example of it I had at the moment, it only takes a few seconds of research.

and you should really try not to resort to name calling

Pelosi looks vaguely shocked to be holding an RPG. Hilarious. God Bless Photoshop...

Then I am sure you know it is spelled Muslims

Posted by: anonymous at April 12, 2009 10:03 PM

I'll call them what I please. Ok mom?

"Surely the peacenik freakshows who've been catterwauling like babies over the last 8 years anytime we killed a brown terrorist, will not approve of this. WILL THEY?"

Uuuh, excuse me asswipe? We really don't mind when TERRORISTS are killed... it's just when their innocent neighbors or family members get blown up... yeah, sure, that's a bit of a problem. And if you're a good god fearing conservative, then maybe you should have a problem with that as well.

Posted by: Joe the Plumber at April 12, 2009 10:08 PM

I'm hardly god fearing. I don't believe in organized religion of any sort, including the worship of a false idol like Obama. Not all conservatives have belief systems that eminate outward from their religious beliefs. Most "conservative" positions can be explained by pure reason and logic, despite what the rest of your "progressive" friends have concluded during one of their starbucks circle jerks.

Well done with the image, Air2air.
But isn't one Obama enough, and shouldn't Soros and Reid be featured.
Why not add Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn?

Also, is Pelosi an alien from the planet ZobZob?

Off subject, but have you seen THIS bill?

They want to take your...

...wait for it...

...PETS!

Yes, I'm serious:
http://righteousrantings.blogspot.com/2009/04/another-example-of-legislative.html

Jimbo at April 12, 2009 10:20 PM

Umm, Jimbo?

He's right. We did buy off tribal leaders in Iraq. I was there, and I provided security for some of those meetings in the West Ramadi Police Sub-station in '07 and '08. Col. Salaam was the go-between in the area as he had been a long time gun-runner and drug lord. Then operating as our placed police chief, he initiated several such transactions with many different groups and families.
For his efforts, he was assassinated by Al Qaeda in the late fall of '07.
Smithsonian Magazine recently ran a story involving an Army unit that engaged in the same DOD-initiated tactics. I'm sure it can be found somewhere.
By filling the need for money in their communities and winning their loyalty through close interaction (several times even utilizing them as back-up security), we were finally able to convince most of the insurgent groups that capitolism and Americanism was not the "evil" that was being shown to them by the likes of Al-Jazeera.
War is a messy place, and winning it sometimes takes some very extreme measures. Just because a tactic causes you to recoil initially (we did when we found out what was happening, trust me...), does not make it a bad idea, or ensure its ultimate failure.

Sorry...

see Jimbo, it pays off to actually know what you are talking about before opening your big mouth.

Most of the rest of you: Take note. Try to learn to read regularly about the topics you are interested in from a variety of perspectives and sources before coming to a conclusion. Consider arguments from other sides seriously and respectfully and develop an educated opinion, and you will find everything not to be as black and white as you currently think.

Don't simply look to the Bible and Fox Network for your opinions and then spend the rest of your time finding justifications and engaging in apologetics in order to buffer your preconceptions. Avoid the outrageous oversimplifications and grand generalizations that this blog promotes.

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I'm sorry I thought of it,but you know it's coming..... somehow we will be the bad guys and the Pirates will be the heros.

nutcracker. You mean like those oversimplifications everyone had to listen to for the last 8 years whenever Bush did anything and continue to this day with clowns like Keith Olbermann and nearly the entire management and staff of NBC?

Just because you worship Obama doesnt mean everyone else will.

Though Obama finally did permit them to kill the Pirates, courtesy of crack sharpshooters (those guys should all get bonuses for their fine work) the real test will be what happens next. Will he defer to the UN or begin operations to kill Pirates by the hundreds until the attacks stop - or will he defer the UN (Useless Numbskulls)?

If I were President I would do something similar to what police do to catch car thieves. Instead of bait cars, use bait ships - and when the Pirates board the ships, you blast them with shotguns and automatic weapons fire. No trial - you execute ALL pirates at sea, the way they did in the old days. Eventually you will get them all. The fact one Pirate remains alive puts a ding in the victory. For good measure when you locate a Pirate base you send in armed Predator drones.

And if the shipping companies refuse to pay for armed security aboard their own/escort ships then screw em.

I was interested in what the DemoUndergrnd had to say. Here is how one thread started.

"Original message
What's with the "Rah-Rah! USA! USA!" sentiment on here regarding the maritime hostage situation?
It's a little disconcerting. I find myself comparing it to the gladiatorial bread and circuses of the former Roman empire. There is a certain amount of blood lust that shows itself in situations like this and I find it rather disgusting."

It erupted into a pretty big bonfire, with both sides hissing and slapping.

wonder what his handlers will think now that he's engaged in an "act of war"? this whole event MUST have put a damper on the pizza party...

karin - you're a brave woman.

Plain old regular justice is pretty good.

But the kind of justice where we get to kill people - now that's a Christian conservative's favorite kind of justice. They love to be free and self righteous, but when they get to kill bad guys in the process its even better.

Sure, those pirates deserved what they got, but to get enjoyment out of their death - that's demented.

It was bound to happen.

After events like these, I try to put myself in the mindset of a liberal wackjob in order to anticipate the absudity that is sure to follow.

It has never failed..... as bizarre as I try to be, I am always outdone by the real moonbats, yet I am never surprised.

Why didn't I think of this.....the Pirates are environmentalists.

That's right. Look up "Why We Don't Condemn Our Pirates" on the Huffington Post.

Funny how liberals show nothing but didain for our military until a liberal president needs them

I for one, have to give Obama props on this one. He issued standing orders to take the bastards out if the captain's life appeared to be in danger. It was the right thing to do. It also makes sense he wouldn't openly comment too much on a situation in which he authorized the use of deadly force, no?

And Brandon, calm down. There's no bloodlust here. There is relief that everyone is OK, and on my part, relief that we finally flexed our muscles some in a situation that wholly warranted it. No, I'm not shedding any tears for the dead pirates, and maybe someone could make a case for that attitude being decidedly "un-Christian." However, that person won't be you, as getting advice on my religious beliefs from you would be like me advising an experienced concrete worker on the proper way to form up curb and gutter.

These pirates made their decision, and now they get to live with it...err...or not.

The pirates were in the wrong, and they were punished. Did it mean they had to be killed?
Not saying that.
The punishment has to fit the crime. Luckily in the military that rule still holds true. Once the pirates made it look like they were going to kill the Captain, they were taken care of...
We talked to them, we played nice...and with some people that works, others it does not.

Now we already have people upset because we made the other pirates mad. Now they are going to kill Americans next time they capture them.
To the common liberal, now their behavior is our fault.
They don't think about the fact the pirates are doing something wrong, that they are the ones killing innocent people or capturing ships.
Nope, blame the big bad USA.
Its a stark contrast between common sense and liberalism.
Same happens everywhere.
Liberal thought:
"We have to understand why terrorist hate us"

Lets see how the comments go the next few days.
Will liberals be happy the right thing is done, and call for the end of the pirate behavior all together, or will we get them being who they are: Blaming America first and want to know why the pirates do what they do. It doesn't matter if what the pirates do is wrong, just that it is our fault.

Uh, I know this sounds silly, but couldn't the sharpshooters could have just wounded them instead of killing them?

Left wing blogs side with the pirates. Crooks and Liars support the pirates "legitimate grievances" against capitalism. Daily Kos (Safe Link through Gatewaypundit) accuses the captain of "grandstanding." Puffington Host (safe link through jammie-wearing fool) says pirates are environmentalists fighting back against the despoiling of their country.

Obviously, if the United States Navy hanged some eye-patched, peg-legged blackguard from the yardarm or made him walk the plank, pious senators would rise to denounce an America that no longer lived up to its highest ideals, and the network talking-heads would argue that Plankgate was recruiting more and more young men to the pirates' cause, and judges would rule that pirates were entitled to the protections of the U.S. Constitution and that their peg legs had to be replaced by high-tech prosthetic limbs at taxpayer expense.

"Uh, I know this sounds silly, but couldn't the sharpshooters could have just wounded them instead of killing them?
Posted by: MST at April 13, 2009 7:15 AM"

a wounded man with a gun can still kill the hostage.
you can't guarantee that the wound you inflict will disable, & with 3 wounded pirates the odds would be that one of them could still kill the hostage.

Plain old regular freedom is pretty good.

But the kind of freedom where we get to kill babies - now that's a Progressive liberal's favorite kind of freedom. They love to be smug and condescending, but when they get to kill babies in the process it's even better.

Sure, those babies were just 'needless' clumps of biological tissue, but to believe that killing 40 million children doesn't have a moral and spiritual effect on our culture, that's a psychological disorder.

these ships are taken over by less than a half dozen men in a small boat.why don't captain numbnuts and his crew arm themselves and stop it before it happens?

Uh, I know this sounds silly, but couldn't the sharpshooters could have just wounded them instead of killing them?

I suppose they could have, but it would have been because they missed.

Shooting "to injure" is a tactic reserved for television, and about as realistic.

Posted by: bill fry at April 13, 2009 9:08 AM

It's my understanding that international maritime law prohibits commercial vessels from arming crew members with firearms. Hopefully these incidents will work to overturn those laws. It's silly to have ships carrying hundreds of millions of dollars worth of cargo without any sort of way to defend against threats.

Posted by: bill fry at April 13, 2009 9:08 AM

It's my understanding that international maritime law prohibits commercial vessels from arming crew members with firearms. Hopefully these incidents will work to overturn those laws. It's silly to have ships carrying hundreds of millions of dollars worth of cargo without any sort of way to defend against threats.

I worry about this being used to bring in the
sovereignty destroying, "Law of the Sea Treaty!”

Miserble somolian pirates demanded ransome and now three of them are dead and the third should soon join them witha noose around his neck

Regarding shooting to wound.

If you shoot to wound, that can be used against you when you are sued. It would indicate that you are admitting the situation wasn't a matter of life or death, in which case, you had no cause to shoot.

Gregory of Yardale - Thanks for the PuffHo link.

I got stitches imagining environmentalist pirates.

"Yarrrrgh, corporate greed be destroyin' nature's beauty, are we goin to stand for this lads?"

Lol.

Shoot to wound

There is a proper time to shoot to wound. That is when you are facing an enemy that is in tightly knit groups that will care for their wounded (clans, relatives, U.S. troops, etc.). Then you can shoot so that you can tie up at least two of the enemy for every wounded one and they have to transport the wounded and care for them. It works good to shoot them in lower abdomen or in the spine or kidneys. When they are holding hostages, none of this applies. That is when you want to blow their heads off or at least blow them into pieces so that spurts of blood and chunks of bone, fat, and muscle disconcert whoever is next to them.

excuse me joe the obot you do have a problem with terrorists dying so please stop lying ahole

Snowflake...

You are correct that wounding in a battle ties up more of the enemy in terms of caring for wounded etc. It also has a psycological effect on troops when a fellow soldier is wounded and screaming.

However, I don't believe troops on the battlefied are aiming to wound, they are aiming to kill. On, the other hand, there are many anti-personnel devices that can be placed ahead of time that can be designed to have a large spread and wound as many as possible.

Don't forget, wounded soldiers can often continue the fight while down. It's a bit more difficult to continue the fight when your head is blown off.

Betula,

Yeah, troops kill. Snipers are something else. I guess we were talking about snipers. Those guys can put holes in things at over a 1000 meters. At 100 to 200 meters, they can shoot testicles off and call left or right.

>>abortion is mainly an argument about defining when a fetus is considered a child

That's correct sir. The problem is that the concept of a "non person" human, or "less than human" with regard to fetuses got really popular after it meant that people could engage in unrestrained sexual freedom and not feel guilty about it.

A "non-person" human just isn't a conclusion that a rational person would come to unless it meant that it could be used to justify a lifestyle of loose morals. (ie- get a woman pregnant, abort the fetus, don't feel guilty, life goes on, etc.)

Furthermore, calling oppressed groups "less than human" or "not real persons" has made it easier throughout history for the oppressors to feel good about themselves as they continue the dastardly deed. Look at slavery in the U.S. and the holocaust in WWII. Both instances were marked with the oppressed group being called "less than human." Abortion championed by liberals is more of the same.

This is just one reason why hedonistic "it's all about me" liberalism must be corrected and rooted out wherever it is found. It is the same garbage the world has dealt with in the past, just repackaged in a different form.

Once life is disregarded in this fashion, it opens up a whole can of worms. Suddenly, murderous pirates are sympathized with and seen as the heroes. One's sense of right and wrong gets all fracked up because of liberalism's doctrines like these.

I think if you truly want to champion the oppressed, you too will oppose liberalism with everything inside of you, like I do.

President Obama twice ordered the use of lethal force on the pirates. So WWGWBD?

Well, Dubya shortly before leaving office, had his State Dept. issuee statements supporting UN peacekeeping and LOST as remedies for the Somali pirate problem.

What did Obama do? He had them shot dead. I assume this will be reposted at the top of the page.

Posted by: moonbatNUTcracker at April 13, 2009 5:03 AM

Though Obama finally did permit them to kill the Pirates, courtesy of crack sharpshooters (those guys should all get bonuses for their fine work) the real test will be what happens next. Will he defer to the UN or begin operations to kill Pirates by the hundreds until the attacks stop - or will he defer the UN (Useless Numbskulls)?

If I were President I would do something similar to what police do to catch car thieves. Instead of bait cars, use bait ships - and when the Pirates board the ships, you blast them with shotguns and automatic weapons fire. No trial - you execute ALL pirates at sea, the way they did in the old days. Eventually you will get them all. The fact one Pirate remains alive puts a ding in the victory. For good measure when you locate a Pirate base you send in armed Predator drones.

And if the shipping companies refuse to pay for armed security aboard their own/escort ships then screw em.

Perhaps you should form a video game company to build a simulation so you could get closer to battle - you fuckin idiot...