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April 27, 2009

Pedophiles Are Special, Our Troops Aren't

If we're going to discard the crucial concept of equality before the law for the sake of "hate crimes" legislation, why not punish hate crimes against our troops? An outraged Rep. Debbie Wasserman-Schultz (D-FL) explains why: because comparing abused military personnel to "real victims" like blacks and homosexuals is "belittling" to the privileged special interest groups favored by progressives.

Pedophiles, on the other hand, appeal to liberals enough to be granted special "real victim" status:

[Iowa Republican Rep. Steve] King offered an amendment that would have barred pedophiles from receiving special protection under the hate crimes bill. The amendment was defeated on a party-line vote 13-10. Congresswoman [Tammy] Baldwin [D-WI] said that amendment was "unnecessary and inflammatory."

On a farm run by liberals, pedophiles are more equal than other animals. The soldiers who offer their lives to defend them as they wallow in their filth are not.

Hat tips: theblogprof, RedState, Common Sense Junction.

Posted by Van Helsing at April 27, 2009 9:42 PM

Comments

Sweet God...

I'm so horrified, I don't even feel offended or insulted.

Where do they find these people? How do they get elected? Does anyone actually pay attention to what their Reps or Senators say or do?

Disgusting.

Posted by: Evil Monk at April 27, 2009 11:00 PM

This shit has and is going way too far!

Idiots vote and elect idiots!

Posted by: Oiao at April 27, 2009 11:24 PM

Exactly what I would expect from sick, perverted democrats.

Posted by: Parley at April 28, 2009 12:46 AM

"On a farm run by liberals, pedophiles are more equal than other animals."

Let's not forget, there is 1 exception to that, if the pedophile (or homosexual) is a Catholic priest, then it is open season.

But the liberals won't admit that double standard of theirs, their selective approval of evil.

Posted by: Al at April 28, 2009 12:49 AM

Classic misdirection.

The Dem was saying that there was no pattern of violence against military personal (in this country, anyway). She might be wrong. If she is, go ahead and prove it; I'm listening.

Pedophiles don't need to be excluded since they aren't included. Might as well propose excluding cows and Martians; they aren't covered under the law either.

Hint: Most pedophiles are heterosexual men.

Posted by: hey you guys at April 28, 2009 12:51 AM

I'm running out of excuses for paying taxes. These people have an extremely limited shelf life.

Posted by: Right0fReagan at April 28, 2009 1:42 AM

I have felt for some time that one of the differences between the U.S. and Western Europe is precisely the lack of "hate crime" legislation in the U.S. In Europe, as we all know, it has been used for years to stifle dissent. Now it appears that we are following in their footsteps, and with gusto.

This legislation is no less frightening than the imminent moves to suppress talk radio and the Internet. "Hate crime" legislation represents a revolution in legal practice; it is a major challenge to the Constitutional framework and the rule of law. "Diversity" kicks into high gear, as a medieval system of privilege permeates our society.

Perhaps this is just one more act in the play now being performed in Washington, in which the national government brings the country to the brink of totalitarianism. A showdown now seems inevitable, being that Obama and the Democratic Congress see no limit to their power grab. The full panoply of Leftist ideology is being imposed upon us at breakneck speed. We no longer have the luxury of ignoring it.

Posted by: AWOL Civilization at April 28, 2009 1:45 AM

"Hate Crimes" are a horrific, Orwellian tool of the left that exist solely to punish people for thinking the wrong way.

The poster child for Hate Crimes laws is Matthew Shepard, and yet 1.) his assailants were criminal thugs whose motivation in murdering him was drugs and robbery, and 2.) received the maximum penalties available under law even *without* a hate crimes statute.

Properly understood, Matthew Shepard's story is a cautionary tale against leaving a bar with two strangers to do drugs and have three-way sex. But the left, instead, made him into a hero for doing something insanely stupid and self-destructive, and now uses their twisted version of events to carve out special victims groups among their donors and constituents who are privileged under the law.

I frakking hate the left.

Posted by: V the K at April 28, 2009 1:47 AM

No argument here; hate crime statues are a bad idea.

Posted by: Anonymous at April 28, 2009 2:18 AM

AWOL Civilization, great post. Very well put.

Also, if anyone wants to get really worked up, look up the unholy alliance of the ACLU and NAMBLA. (The latter is the most disgusting organization ever devised.) Do you think the ACLU will come to the defense of someone that uses the word "fag" as free speech? I doubt it, but look at their defense of NAMBLA.

This stuff is seriously upsetting. It is nothing more than pushing a far left agenda. We need to find a way to make all this stop.

Posted by: LoneWolfArcher at April 28, 2009 5:05 AM

I agree these guys need protection and respect for that matter, but it does ring hollow --much as the "hate crimes" legislation protecting any other group. Everyone should be treated equally under the law... except for hypocrites who should be taken out to the woodshed by a court appointed evil stepfather.

good blog

Bobby
http://www.idlewordship.com

Posted by: Bobby McGill at April 28, 2009 5:52 AM

Crime should be crime. Its nonsense when a crime is given more importance because of what demographic group the victim is part of. Kill a white heterosexual man (who is not a liberal) and its just an ordinary murder. But should the man be gay or black - or instead a woman (or she-male) then its elevated to a whole new level. Sickening.

Posted by: Anonymous at April 28, 2009 6:08 AM

I'm scared by how un-shocked I am.

AC

Posted by: AC at April 28, 2009 6:10 AM

in nanc world, pedophiles would be dismembered into one inch cubes and the parts dispersed to every state in the union - they wouldn't be able to find enough of one to put an ear together!

...did i just say that out loud?

Posted by: nancz at April 28, 2009 6:51 AM

oops! forgotten to mention i'd do it while they were still alive and breathing - was thinking about the woodchopper scene in "fargo", but that would just not be right.

Posted by: nancz at April 28, 2009 6:53 AM

Pedophiles WILL be the left's next great crusade once they have homosexuals firmly entrenched into our culture. It's obvious they don't care about kids or being a criminal (probably because all the criminals are leftists). You'll soon see Tim Robbins marching through San Fran with a poster that says "There's No Greater Joy Than A Tight Little Boy", after all the ACLU does represent NAMBLA. WAIT till you see what is next! These are sick depraved poor excuses for humans.

Posted by: TED at April 28, 2009 7:21 AM

Liberals get along with pedophiles and espcialy one certian skirt chasing person who name i dont care to mention

Posted by: SPURWING PLOVER at April 28, 2009 7:35 AM

nanc i think you hit it right on the head.
it seems your world is right next to mine.

Posted by: FREE at April 28, 2009 7:47 AM

“There’s no way to rule innocent men. The only power government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren’t enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws.” —Ayn Rand

I am sure we have reached that point. Declaring "thought" as a new crime and setting up a privileged class of people based on their choice of behavior is just the beginning of what is to destroy America.

Some of my favorite quotes: “The urge to save humanity is almost always a false-face for the urge to rule it.” —H. L. Mencken

“Adore God. Reverence and cherish your parents. Love your neighbor as yourself, and your country more than yourself. Be just. Be true. Murmur not at the ways of Providence.” —Thomas Jefferson

Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.

As for "Classic misdirection. Hint: Most pedophiles are heterosexual men." WRONG: most pedophiles are homosexual men. With highest number being teachers.


Posted by: B Ambrose at April 28, 2009 9:45 AM

"Hint: Most pedophiles are heterosexual men"
You do know thats a hate crime

Posted by: JamesJ at April 28, 2009 9:55 AM

"Most pedophiles are homosexual men. With highest number being teachers."

Prove it. Most pedophiles are heterosexual males because most pedophiles are men and most men are heterosexual.

Also, child molestation happens most frequently with relatives and family friends. Teacher-student molestation is relatively uncommon, composing only about 10% of reported cases.

Posted by: Anonymous at April 28, 2009 2:28 PM

It makes no difference to me if someone kills me because I'm a woman or because they don't like my car. So why is one an official "hate" motivation for murder and the other isn't? It's illogical and offensive - violent crime is hateful by nature.

Posted by: Cyndi at April 28, 2009 2:40 PM

"Everyone should be treated equally under the law... except for hypocrites who should be taken out to the woodshed by a court appointed evil stepfather.
"Posted by: Bobby McGill at April 28, 2009 5:52 AM"

I would support spankings/whippings for minor crimes like holding a joint.

"“There’s no way to rule innocent men. The only power government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren’t enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws.” —Ayn Rand

"I am sure we have reached that point. Declaring "thought" as a new crime and setting up a privileged class of people based on their choice of behavior is just the beginning of what is to destroy America.
"Posted by: B Ambrose at April 28, 2009 9:45 AM"

Do you get the feeling that Liberals read Ayn Rand and got the wrong message?

"Prove it. Most pedophiles are heterosexual males because most pedophiles are men and most men are heterosexual.
"Also, child molestation happens most frequently with relatives and family friends. Teacher-student molestation is relatively uncommon, composing only about 10% of reported cases.
"Posted by: Anonymous at April 28, 2009 2:28 PM"

Here in Florida, it's LIBERAL FEMALE TEACHERS who are the pedophiles.

Posted by: KHarn at April 28, 2009 5:05 PM

Posted by: KHarn at April 28, 2009 5:05 PM

Really? Got stats? Or is it only one or two notorious cases that are blinding you to the larger statistical trend?

You have to deal with numbers. Emotions factor in, but they can't be your only concern.

Posted by: Anonymous at April 28, 2009 5:11 PM

04/29/2009


Debbie Wasserman-Schultz,


Re: "By a 15-12 vote, the Local Law Enforcement Hate Crimes Prevention Act (H.R. 1913) was reported out of the House Judiciary Committee"



You said:

"Gays, Jews, African Americans - all groups who are REAL VICTIMS of targeted hate crimes."
And US Military who come under attack from Code Pink and other anti-war left-wing radical groups are not also REAL VICTIMS? I've seen haters spit on soldiers, throw feces on soldiers, and verbally attack them for the simple reason that they are soldiers. You condone this kind of hate crime.



So you voted to protect certain favored haters. You voted to protect pedophiles and their sexual orientation. You voted to allow Code Pink to throw red paint at US soldiers as a symbol of their loathing of them. You pick and choose who gets to hate who, and that's wrong.



Your choices are morally dysfunctional. You condone hatred of American symbology, clearly rejecting those who chose a military career.



A hate crime is simply this: one person attacks another simply on the basis of ideological opposition. Your specificity in granularizing who gets to hate and who doesn't shows your condescending bigotry.



You don't deserve a leadership position in the US government, and I will be sure to support anyone who will camapign against you.



Sincerely,


Joe Lender

Posted by: Joe Lender at April 29, 2009 3:52 AM

Prove it. Most pedophiles are heterosexual males because most pedophiles are men and most men are heterosexual.

Rofl, this Public Service Announcement brought to you by, this guy.

Boy, with logic like this, who needs facts and figures? I mean, most criminals are also men, and most men are white, so that must mean most men in jail are white, right? Right??

Posted by: cowlove at April 29, 2009 6:37 AM

Bravo Joe Lender!

“There’s no way to rule innocent men. The only power government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren’t enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws.” —Ayn Rand

Our Federal Code is over 10,000 pages long, and that's just the Criminal Codes. Add in "Administrative Rules and Regulations" which have the Force of Law and we're well over 100,000 pages. In fact the US Government itself can't even say exactly how many laws are on the books. Really. I don't think there is anyone who can tell us exactly how many Federal Laws we have. Ever take your prescription medication out of the original container and put them in a different one? If you answered yes that makes you a Felon.

The Left is an intolerant bunch of spoiled whiney crybabies who want laws for special classes of people who want their bad behavior indorsed by those who think it is wrong. Now new thought crime laws. Who detemines who is thinking what?

Posted by: B Ambrose at April 29, 2009 12:57 PM

Posted by: cowlove at April 29, 2009 6:37 AM

I take it you can't prove your contention then? Stats, please.

Posted by: Anonymous at April 29, 2009 2:42 PM

This is not equal protection under the law and is unconstitutional. That is all.

Posted by: Mr Bill at April 29, 2009 3:07 PM

Hate crimes are stupid from a prosecutor's point of view. Why? Because it makes it harder to prove one's case. The prosecutor does not have to prove motive in criminal cases. He has to prove criminal intent and bad act (mens rea and actus reus). For a conviction on a hate crime, the prosecutor would have to prove that the defendant assaulted someone because of a certain motive. Why make it harder to prove crime beyond a reasonable doubt? This is feel good legislation that defeats its very purpose. Plus pandering to groups is stupid and unconstitutional.

Posted by: AynRandLives at April 29, 2009 6:45 PM

I take it you can't prove your contention then? Stats, please.

Whoa whoa whoa, I thought all we had to do was apply some simplistic logic and, voila, stats are unnecessary!

But for giggles, here you go. Now, according to your logic, whites should make up a vast majority of the prison population, seeing as it's primarily men who commit crime, and the majority of men are white. Clearly even you can see the folly in "logic" that is anything but logical.

Your stats?

Posted by: cowlove at April 29, 2009 7:23 PM

Who really cares what the stats are? Male or female - hetero or homosexual - pedofiles are breaking the law and that is the point. They deserve no special protection. Pedofilia is a sexual preference - it does not change and it is not curable. Their preferred gender is irrelevant. Some are actually asexual - using either sex - because young girls and boys are very similar as they have not matured sexually and excite the pedofile due to their age and immaturity rather than their gender.

Posted by: Schatzee at April 30, 2009 12:35 AM

On the topic above, I am not only outraged and disgusted but ticked off. Hate crimes are a waste of time - how can one prove what another was thinking or feeling during the commission of a crime. Unreal.

Posted by: Schatzee at April 30, 2009 12:37 AM

http://www.springerlink.com/content/tr7388256l7437xh/

Here you go. To wit:

"All regressed offenders, whether their victims were male or female children, were heterosexual in their adult orientation. There were no examples of regression to child victims among peer-oriented, homosexual males."

Posted by: Anonymous at April 30, 2009 1:29 AM

Straight or gay, pedos should be fed to sharks. I couldent care less wether they prefer boys or girls.

Posted by: Anonymous at April 30, 2009 3:42 AM

I'm going to go with the recent commenters here and say pedophiles are pedophiles, and are evil creatures.

But I need to add, as well, that when someone asks you for stats on the subject, pointing to a study of 175 convicted pedophiles is disingenuous, at best. Drawing your conclusions based on approximately half of that 175, who admittedly were not "sexually fixated exclusively on children," is blatantly dishonest. That's a lot like me linking to this and saying you're wrong. Fact is, we'd both be wrong.

At any rate, I appreciate your attempted use of stats as opposed to disjointed reasoning.

Posted by: cowlove at April 30, 2009 6:27 AM

Please read Stalin's Article 58-1 thru 14.

Posted by: last legger at May 6, 2009 6:19 AM