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Ouch! Well written letter.

So, how many 'Progrssives' watch FNC to make them number one, and most often with more overal ratings per time slot than CNN, HLN, MSNBC and the others combined ratings?

It goes to show you: liberalism is NOT main-stream. Quite the contrary.

People who go to work to support their families, fully expecting the government to take but never to give.

People who are comfortable making their own healthcare decisions, leaving the government out.

People who will take the consequences of their bad decisions without expecting big brother to come 'bail them out.' This is what family and friends are for: a helping hand so you can get back on your feet.

QUE TROLLS! GO!

Anderson Cooper is familiar with homosexual slang? Knock me over with a feather. How did that happen?

If you'd watch the footage, the man's comments do not respond to her question in any way.

Anybody knows that when being asked a question in a situation like that, its not an opportunity to start a ten minute rant. Its an interview on the street for goodness sake, keep your answer short and to the point. Its no wonder she cut him off. He was blabbering and so full of emotion he couldn't control his voice.

But he seemed to think he was a political analyst and could begin the conversation with Lincoln -- give me a break guy! And then to see that simply being cut off was enough to send him into a frenzy, shouting obscenities while holding his small child. Wait, aren't you guys supposed to be the family values people?

Ugh, if you folks feel like you're fighting the good fight, you should be able to come up with better material. Something at least that doesn't impugn your own objective.

And who doesn't think the teabagging joke is hilarious. You should be able to laugh ... try it, you may like it! If you can laugh at yourself sometimes, you might feel better. Its certainly more funny that the poorly formed attempts at wit I've been reading on here for the past few days.

The Obama News Network ... HILARIOUS!

Let's not forget that the need for the bailout, as well as the The Emergency Economic Stabilization Act and the Troubled Asset Relief Program were Bush administration issues and policies. Not Obama's.

"Anderson Cooper is familiar with homosexual slang? Knock me over with a feather. How did that happen?"

Now THAT'S funny!

Speaking of Jan Schakowsky, the old witch is calling for "All Hands On Deck" To Push Green Agenda", that is, push for cap and trade.

This is a witch that ought to be burned. Express your displeasure...

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Help drive this worthless parasite out of office!

Anybody knows that when being asked a question in a situation like that, its not an opportunity to start a ten minute rant.

Yes, they should definitely lift that guy’s journalistic credentials for being long-winded. He should have been more professional, objective, detached, and even-handed, like Susan Roesgen. No one could remotely discern where she stood. And here she was, just plucked from a crowd, with no journalistic training or experience, with a microphone stuck in her face.

CNN the COMMUNISTS,NEWS,NETWORK owned by RED TED TURNER and run by BIG BAD WOLF BLITZER and CNN and the SPLC think anyone who opposes OBAMA are a buanch of racsis typical of these reptiles

You're so right Rob. Anybody who wants to ensure that we have oxygen to breathe in the future must surely be a witch.

And your witch burning reference is only showing you up as the extremist weirdo you are. Yes, anybody who thinks breathing is important should be burned! Except if there's only carbon dioxide in the air ... good luck burning her! (hope that one doesn't go over your head Rob)

Ugh, Spurwing Plover, I've read your posts on here many times. Do you have anything to contribute except your empty-headed "communist news network" and "Red Ted Turner" joke?It was barely funny the first time.

PS - I didn't call anyone a racist. I think opposition is a great thing. People hashing out their differences is what we're supposed to be about in this country. Just trying to engage you on the actual topic at hand. Think you can handle it?

The point is well taken Jay. Clearly she had a point in mind before she went there. There is no such thing as unbiased media. Media is run by people and people have opinions. SOmetimes they'll be different than yours.

All I'm saying is, if you're given an opportunity to speak into a microphone in a situation like that, its always a very brief one. Even if the person holding the microphone agrees with you. Say it and say it quick.

I wish the old geezer hadn't have been trying to butt in when she made the point his state was getting 50 billion. He might have gone along these lines... Lady, where the hell do you think that 50 billion is coming from? Now that you're up to speed with the reason for these gatherings you might want want to talk to my son here about it. He will be required to chip in his future income to pay it back.. with interest.

Actually Moon bat, I'd prefer to shove a red-hot poker up Jan Schakowsky's ass and twist, but burning it at the stake is also just fine with me...

KUDOS!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ah fuzzlenutter. So eloquent. You want to torture people for not agreeing with you.

This forum is supposed to be about stuff like, you know -- words and talking things through. Your strange sadism would probably fit in better somewhere else. If you've got a thing for the lady, why not just ask her out like a gentleman? I don't want to hear about your strange proclivities.

Moon bat, then don't ask. A hot-poker enema would also do you some good...

Moon bat, the man was asked a question and he did not give a ten minute reply. What he said about Lincoln was spot on. Your only purpose here, Moon bat, seems to be to poke people in the proverbial eye.

The troll is upset at the Obama News Network logo. Which at this time is all over the internet.

Not too long until the MSM realizes that they have marginalized themselfs out of a workable business plan (that actually makes money), unlike FOX News (FNC) that is kicking all of their asses combined.

90 days into this train wreck of an amature hour contest called a Presidential Administration, and the ship is heading straight for the rocks. The MSM is going to start turning on Obama more and more, to protect the 4th estate from total collapse. The cracks are already showing.

As soon as you diss the Obama, the left's memory of how they acted during the last administration goes vacant, but the double standard kicks in.

No soup for you, Troll!

Excellent letter.

SURPRISE:

CNN pulls Patterico's embarrassing TEA Party video.

http://patterico.com/2009/04/18/cnn-the-latest-corporate-thug-to-use-copyright-as-a-weapon-to-eliminate-embarrassing-clips-from-youtube/

I forgot to add this, concerning the amature hour White House occupants.

The current head of the administration is making Jimma Carter's 4 dismal years' efforts appear very intelligent and capable, in comparison.

Clearly she had a point in mind before she went there. There is no such thing as unbiased media. Media is run by people and people have opinions.

Of course people have opinions, and fair enough. Professional journalists, however, should not argue with people they’re interviewing – which is what she did. Her job was to discern what tea party participants thought, not to get on the soapbox about what she thought. She was not the story, and therefore her opinions are irrelevant to the story. The job of the media is to inform the electorate of events, policies, and proposals affecting the nation so that the electorate can make informed choices. Their job is not to proselytize for their own viewpoints. Yet that’s what they’ve been doing.

Sometimes they'll be different than yours.

With our media, make that “almost invariably.” As I said, they’re entitled to their viewpoint. All I ask is that they not refract every story through the lens of their narrative. Dial back the editorializing, present the facts, and let the electorate draw its own conclusions.

All I'm saying is, if you're given an opportunity to speak into a microphone in a situation like that, its always a very brief one. Even if the person holding the microphone agrees with you. Say it and say it quick.

I agree. But we’ve got to cut the guy some slack. He’s just some poor slob who suddenly finds a microphone in his face, probably for the first and last time in his life. A professional journalist could have brought him back on point more smoothly, and without the obvious antagonism. Agreed?

Oops, meant Roesgen's embarrassing TEA Party video.

A hot-poker enema would also do you some good...

I know you’re saying this as a joke, but let’s not descend to leftist levels. Let’s engage those who disagree and try to change their minds. The more intelligent of the liberals are potentially reachable.

Well, all your well thought out responses are too much for me!

Why should I even bother writing if you can't enter into a dialogue? Your responses include red hot pokers (which I didn't ask about fuzzy-whatever, but you seem to know a lot poker enemas and the good they can do ... so I won't belabor that point)

And I'm not upset at all about your logo twist. Just mentioned that I didn't find it all that funny, Oiao. ANd what does Jimmy Carter have to do with anything? Were we discussing him?

DOes anybody want to address the fact that the bailout was Bush administration agenda? That he got us in this financial mess AND pushed the bailout that you guys are so upset about?

No, just more name-calling I bet. Please don't mention hot pokers up the butt anymore. I know some of you must enjoy it, but it doesn't really belong here. Again, aren't you folks supposed to be about family values? I wasn't aware that red hot pokers were part of that.

I refer to CNN as the Jane Fonda Network.

CNN is a tool for the liberals and their minions. One of the reasons I don't have satellite or cable.

Maybe I'll start calling it the Antichrist network because they feature Obama the Antichrist so much.... "This is ACN".

Jay. Intelligence and the common sense to use it are two completely different things.

I seriously doubt that any level of debate here will influence anyone to change a position.

I am fully sure that far left liberals are unreachable.

I am very confident that middle of the road and moderate left people are already moving to the center as they are becoming painfully aware of what their vote created in 2006 and 2008. I'm not implying that the Republican party is the answer (certainly not in it's current form).

More and more liberals will 'grow some common sense' as their lifestyles get taxed out of existence, and they realize that the cool aide about 'rich republicans only getting stuck' was socialist bull puckey.

The cracks in the MSM are starting to happen.

Obama is failing in his first 100 days socialist grand slam. The votes in Congress of moderate liberals is slipping somewhat on key socialist issues.

The Tea Partys were more noticed by moderate Congressional Democrats than Republicans, regardless of the MSM coverage.

Thanks Jay, I appreciate a conversation. Even when we don't agree. If you listen to the other side (why I came to this site) then a person's own opinions become better informed than when insulated with people who merely agree.

Yes, you're right, she could have done a much better job. She was antagonistic, although I bet anyone would feel the same in a group of people so heated up on the opposite side of the fence.

I just take exception to one two minute piece being the center of so much attention. Aren't there much better things to be talking about the the rudeness of one journalist?

The center of this discussion shouldn't center around this one woman's stupid display, or the man's response. It should be about the taxes and bailout plan that the protest was about. You should be wanting to engage on that.

I'm going to CNN.com and under "Contact Us" you can suggest/report news stories to them. I'm going to suggest they do a story about "Biased News Reporting" to uncover the terrible effect that liberal media bias is having on our society. I am subjected to it regularly in my Nor-Cal neighborhood of liberals with their knee-jerk remarks about "racist, stupid Republicans/Conservatives" because they have been indoctrinated by John Stewart, Huffington Post, NPR, etc.

DOes anybody want to address the fact that the bailout was Bush administration agenda? That he got us in this financial mess AND pushed the bailout that you guys are so upset about?

1. No one here is defending Bush. We disagreed with the bailouts from the beginning. Unlike the left, we on the right are capable of criticizing our "leaders" when they are wrong.

2. Bush was partly responsible for the bursting of the bubble, but congressional Democrats were also responsible. Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, and Barack Obama all resisted efforts to reform Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. And all of them, it seems, had a conflict of interest and were acting on behalf of their benefactors. But Bush isn't in power any more, so protesting him would be pointless.

3. The massive deficits being rung up by Obama and Congressional Democrats are far, far larger than even the worst of the Bush deficits. The left may not care about this, but we do.

Hi Oiao,

How can you be sure that anyone is "unreachable" if you don't talk to them? If you really believe that "I seriously doubt that any level of debate here will influence anyone to change a position." Then why waste your time posting anything here?

Using terms like "socialist grand slam" are just to get your anger out. And believe me, I understand the anger and frustration of living under a presidency that you don't agree with at all. Its difficult.

But it seems like nobody wants to engage in a conversation anymore. Can't we talk like grown ups instead of just poking each other to anger?

When you say things like: "The votes in Congress of moderate liberals is slipping somewhat on key socialist issues." and then propose no basis for that statement. That's the kind of thing that makes YOU seem unreachable. As though you're unwilling to even listen.

I want to listen to you, but so far only Jay is offering a real conversation. Can we stick to the topic? I know how you want to predict the failure of this presidency, but its kind of early. You're still stinging from losing the election (which again I completely understand)

So show me wrong instead of name calling. Give me an argument. talk about a specific vote in congress on a specific issue or set of issues instead of saying unsupportable generalizations.

I just take exception to one two minute piece being the center of so much attention. Aren't there much better things to be talking about the the rudeness of one journalist?

When you on the left stop denying that the MSM is biased, we'll be able to stop shoving examples in your face.

Moon bat!!!!!!

You are a complete idiot!!! The house and the Senate are the fuck sticks that pushed this bail out shit and they so happen to be Democrat Liberal jackass Obomites.

Was is not the CLINTON ADMINISTRATION that pushed for the fair lending act so that losers like yourself could get home loans which everyone new they couldn't pay them back?

The collapse of the housing market is what started this mess Right!? Bill Clinton is the one that got the ball rolling. Stupid Liberals want to keep blaming Bush even though he's gone. Why don't stupid liberals look at whats' happening now and stop looking in the past??

liberals just like Moon bat think that they are sooooo intellectual with their false information and their pseudo tolerance.

Hi V the K,

"The massive deficits being rung up by Obama and Congressional Democrats are far, far larger than even the worst of the Bush deficits."

Do you think that could that have anything to do with having to add in war spending that was never included in the Bush budget? War spending was kept completely separate from the budget during the Bush years, and is only now being incorporated into the numbers.

Nancy PolPotLucy, herself, told the One to not even attempt to push the ban on assualt weapons now, because she did not have the Democratic votes to pass it.

Obama just stated the same in Mexico City as an excuse as to why he can not ban assualt weapons right now.

There are many such examples of where Moderate Democratic Congress Critters are waivering.

Card Check anyone?

You should read some more, and practice diversity in your reading. I really don't wast my time coverning know facts that support both my opinions and points.

Yes April,

Again with the nice language. Think you can make a point without resorting to four letter words?

I guess this was pointless. I thought we could talk, but you've gotta get angry. Is tolerance a bad thing? That's what this country is supposed to be about as I understood it.

You don't know a thing about me April. I'm no loser, and I own two properties (and have for years) and am paying on them just fine thanks.

Calm down and talk. I'm not blaming anyone. I'm trying to point out some other things. You say "Bill Clinton is the one that got the ball rolling." care to elaborate and make a point? Or just want to call me more names?

Hi V the K,

I didn't deny that the media is biased. I said exactly the opposite in fact. There is nothing but bias.

Choosing what story to cover, how to cover it, who will do the covering. Journalism is in itself bias. Can we drop that one?

CNN tries to bury the evidence. Apparently, to them it's a big deal.

"let’s not descend to leftist levels.. . The more intelligent of the liberals are potentially reachable."

Oh sure Jay, insults are solely the domain of "leftists" just see above how none of your moonbat members have slung any insults at all.

I guess I was wrong. I can't even talk to Jay. I think there are very smart people on both sides of the fence. If you can't refrain from name calling (didn't your mothers teach you anything?) then there's no point in talking.

If you're going to get your views heard, you need to be more tolerant. If all you can do is threaten with red hot pokers and call them f*#@-sticks, you won't get far. (which is a great relief)

Have fun here in moon-bat land agreeing with each other and being angry at the world for not agreeing with you.

Hey, the Troll exterminated it's self?

I seriously doubt that any level of debate here will influence anyone to change a position.

You may be right. Certainly no one will change his opinion on the spot; I’m trying to plant the seed, which, if/when the plantee reflects on the point, may sprout. A 20- or 30-something Obamaphile may begin thinking when someone points out to him that he’ll be working harder, with less to show for it, strictly and solely by virtue of the stimulus bill piling on so much debt, debt that he’ll be taxed to service (never mind pay off). The seed will lie dormant until at least next year, when the plantee will read about the new tax bill, start reflecting on the conversation we’re having today, and realize he’s been had.

Swapping vituperation may be cathartic, but winning elections and unwinding the debt is more cathartic. In any case, better to light a candle and all that.

Jay - points taken.

Having lived in most general regions of the US and Hi (no Alaska but trained there), and also having traveled to just about every 3d world s**t hole there is, north and south of the equator, I still think that the only way to move a person left or right is based on how hungry they are, or how poor their lifestyle is.

The 20 and 30 somethings on the left will slowly realize that they are not going to achieve the lifestyles of their parents under the current Tax and Spend socialist bent. Their views will mostly change from having to face economic reality.

I'm already seeing some of this in the SF Bay Area with liberal teachers who are starting to realize that the CA Teachers Union sold them a bill of goods. This is especially true of the ones who did not get tenured prior to this year. Most of the ones I know are worried because they know they can not compete on the open market for the limited jobs that are left because CA is Taxing and Regulating business right out of the state.

Hey Oiao,

I know you're hurting, but heal yourself, man.
(also try spellcheck!)

I just take exception to one two minute piece being the center of so much attention. Aren't there much better things to be talking about the the rudeness of one journalist?

If that’s all it was, sure. If it were a one-off, it wouldn’t be worth bringing up. The problem is that it’s not an isolated instance of bias, it’s just a particularly blatant one, and proves the point that such bias exists. It’s got resonance because the mask slipped this time. People on the left commonly come here to argue that the media aren’t biased, or even more incredibly, that the media are biased to conservatives. (I definitely want to move to their planet.)

Oh sure Jay, insults are solely the domain of "leftists" just see above how none of your moonbat members have slung any insults at all

Not intended to give offense. My point was that leftist sites – say, Kos, DU, to name two - stand out for the level of vituperation and gratuitous profanity, calls for assassination of Bush, glee at deaths of conservatives (e.g., Tony Snow). I think that that’s a fair characterization. (Imagine going on one of those sites and saying something pro-American. Besides getting banned in a heartbeat, you’d be treated to seething vitriol. Hell, even people who aren’t left enough get excoriated there.) That’s what I meant. I didn’t make the comment to give offense, but since I apparently did give offense, I apologize.

Anyway, got to run. Be back in about five hours.

Dear Moon bat at April 19, 2009 9:35 AM,

"If you'd watch the footage, the man's comments do not respond to her question in any way.

Anybody knows that when being asked a question in a situation like that, its not an opportunity to start a ten minute rant. Its an interview on the street for goodness sake, keep your answer short and to the point. Its no wonder she cut him off. He was blabbering and so full of emotion he couldn't control his voice."

Wrong, wrong and wrong again.
1. Nobody has to answer a reporters question in any way. "bugger off you ugly bitch" would have been as appropriate as what he actually did try to say.
2. She is not an authority figure. She's a kook who is bitter because he two attempts at getting a job at Fox failed. No one owes her anything and anyone can say what they want to her...for the time being anyway.
3. Laugh at yourself. You seem to be the joke.

Since Katie Couric got it for slicing up Palin, does Susan Roesgen also get a Walter Cronkite Award for Excellence in Journalism for slicing up the man in the street?

It must have taken a lot of courage for Roesgen to take on this father holding his kid.
I expect this brave journalist may next challenge La Raza or ACORN in the streets during one of their race-fests.

When this scrunt was interviewing angry Hurricane Katrina victims, I don't think she ever interrupted them to ask, "So, why didn't you guys just evacuate when the order was given?"

Reporter: "Why are you here today sir?"

Man starts to answer question talking about Lincoln.

Reporter interupts answer to demand: "what does this have to do with taxes..what does this have to do with taxes?"

I did not hear her ask a question about taxes, she asked him why he was there and then interupted him to demand and answer to a question she didn't ask. Then begins to lecture him on the $400 tax credit he might (or not) be getting. Wow! $400 whopping bucks! Shut down the protest...everybody can go home.

I am a product of public education run by the liberal establishment.

I make a lot of money off of doing math and physics anyway (because I attended a university not controlled by liberals).

:-) Love it when the trolls resort to the old 'spellcheck' attack = they ain't got nothing else.

I said plenty of other things, none of which you have responded to except the spellcheck comment. It must hurt bad, if that's all you can hear. Its not an attack, just an observation. ;-)

Talk about not having anything else ... its you guys with the name calling. Try making an observation. Calling people "trolls" doesn't count as thought. Its just childish.

Anonypuss @ 4-19 1pm:

Yea it does count as thought because I THINK your a TROLL.

Typical liberal double standard applies.

Oops, don't freak out because I forgot to enter my "handle"

Does it really help you to know who is posting? Because putting in "Watching" for your "name" doesn't tell anybody a damn thing about who you are.

You are so courageous "watching" for posting your "name" Do people call you "watch" for short?

Where's my double standard, by the way?

You're turning what could be a discussion into a name calling contest. Forget about spelling, did you learn manners?

PS - you got it wrong again. It should be "I think you're a troll"

And wheres your name Moon bat? More hypocracy! You already know who I am. Thanks for the correction by the way.....you are still a TROLL!

LOL!!!! Now go play with your hammer and sickle!!

I forgot to say please.

For years the left has been using the threat of boycott against organizations they have issues with. Maybe its time the right did the same. We should all pledge to boycott any company advertising on CNN until CNN issues an apology and disciplines the reporters who behaved unprofessionally.

I forgot Moon bat....I really don't like to have discussions with misguided liberals. You guys use to many smoke and mirrors plus it's hard to get through your thick socialist heads. Its your way or nothing.

Liberalism is a mental disorder!

Zoloft anyone?

Big shock that a liberal would be a Grammar Nazi. I mean since politically they are so very close to the real thing...

I think CNN has responded, Van Helsing - they had Keith Olbermann interview a professional analyst, Jeanine Garafolo, to find out that the TEA party attendants were racists because, you know, our President is black. I'm not sure though if her and Olby hated President Bush because he was white, based on her theory.

Ugh, watching ...

My point is exactly that. It doesn't matter if there's a name posted or not. You're the one saying it matters. I'm not being a hypocrite at all. "smoke and mirrors"? You are easily confused if what I'm saying seems like that to you.

Do something. Respond. Or propose a boycott like Dan. Try making a point.

But it seems all you've got is name calling. Have anything to say on topic? Or are you just going to call someone the antichrist, or a socialist? By all means show us how many names you can call people. So bush league.

Why do you all insist on making this personal? Are you angry because you don't know anything about the subject?

The last I read was that Susan Roesgen is on 'extended vacation', a CNN representative said.

"And who doesn't think the teabagging joke is hilarious. You should be able to laugh ... try it, you may like it! If you can laugh at yourself sometimes, you might feel better. Its certainly more funny that the poorly formed attempts at wit
I've been reading on here for the past few days."

I don't think it's hilarious; I think it's disgusting, and not the kind of joke that a news network which apparently desires to be 'Family friendly' would do. Conservatives tend to be fully capable of laughing at ourselves when the joke in question is, you know, funny. This isn't funny, just a vile slur which could only come from a liberal with a severe obsession with sex, especially gay sex.
In fact, conservatives tend to be much better at laughing at themselves than liberals are, who are so immensely self- righteous and egotistical that they can't stand the concept of being laughed at, and so they accuse anyone who makes fun of them of being racist/ sexist/ homophobic/ any other kind of discrimination they can think of.

I have already posted that I don't have satellite or cable TV because of news channels like CNN. The liberal bias from CNN is so thick you can cut it with a knife. It has been proven over and over again but people like you keep denying this fact.

I'm angry because liberals like yourself are taking over this great nation and turning it into a whining nanny state. There is no denying that I'm pissed. I'm tired of this socialist administration and the liberal media that reports on it in a biased way.

PS: They not names merely labels. I just like to label people like you just to get a rise.

Does the truth hurt you Mooon bat?

Damn forgot to proof read my last post..Moon bat please take care of it for me.

Actually, CNN and HLN, not to mention MSNBC are already being heavily boycotted by actual viewers.

This is already driving away major advertising $$ from CNN and they know it. Being in that demographic, I agree that CNN is boreing and does not cover the variety of issues that FNC does, regardless of left or right bent. CNN is just not that good.

The #s are the #s.

FNC is kicking every other cable news outlets' butts in the one key marketing demographic of 25 to 45 year old males (where da money is). Liberals are defecting to and watching FNC more and more? How do you explain this demographic trend in viewership?

So the writing is on the wall.

I expect CNN and HLN to come back to center in reporting in the near future since they realize that this is the only way they will survive financially. That is, unless Congress bails them out.

For those who vote with their dollars, quick list of CNN advertisers:

JK Harris and Company
AstraZeneca Pharmaceuticals
E-Trade
Monex Precious Metals
Sprint / Nextel
Select Quote
Wells Fargo
AARP
Philips / Norelco
Subaru
Geico
Boston Market
Overstock.com
Liberty Medical
Live Well Financial
American Coalition for Clean Coal
University of Phoenix
Partnership for Prescription Assistance
Ehealth Insurance Services
Dodge
Hyundai
Jos A Banks Clothiers
Career Builder.com
Zurich Financial Services
Johnson and Johnson
US Home Auction
Cisco
Exxon Mobil
Jitterbug

Thanks Henry,

The only one I need to worry about boycotting is Johnson and Johnson, and I don't think I'll need another box of bandaids for another couple of years.

Apologies April, I misattributed the name calling to you.

No, truth doesn't hurt me. I love it! Speak more!

As I said, I COMPLETELY understand feeling angry and disenfranchised by a president I don't believe in. The last eight years were very hard for me, and I get it that you are upset that things aren't going in a way that you perceive as the right way.

But can we PLEASE get back to the topic. For the last time, I have not called anyone racist or sexist. Obviously, I don't have a problem being laughed at or I wouldn't be speaking up in such an inhospitable environment.

Let's talk about politics and not call names. Anyone up for discussing TARP or how we got here? If there's blame to give, surely it belongs on many heads. Greedy bankers, politicians bowing to the greedy bankers, and a couple of wars costing us billions.

Anybody up for those topics?

And who doesn't think the teabagging joke is hilarious[?]

Anyone over the age of twelve...

SRSLY, that is the middle-school level of repartee.

Hey Troll Bat - here is some truth for you. And we know its true because Harry Reid said it two years ago today.

Harry Reid telling the truth on April 19, 2007

"If there's blame to give, surely it belongs on many heads. Greedy bankers, politicians bowing to the greedy bankers..."

Do you REALLY htink that bankers want to loan money to people who can't repay it? How are they supposed to make money off that? Sure, they can foreclose on the property, but banks are NOT in the real estate business and everyone who knew anything about ecconomics (Like BANKERS) were warning that the easy credit/no down payment racket was leading to disaster.

As for the war, LIBERALS have been propping up the enemy for YEARS; that's why there is no end in sight and why it's costing us so much. And the cost is a lot more than MONEY.

I never said anything about the man. He doesn't speak for me. I'd rather hear what you think. From your tone I take it you think we're winning that war?

Moonbats about to bat themselves in the pocketbook. This is going to be fun to watch on the local news when they haul the first 50ish Hippy into court for refusing to comply.

Yes - Bizerkeley CA

Hot debate ahead on Berkeley's energy plans

the city is likely to mandate that all homes meet strict energy standards. In many cases this would mean new double-paned windows, insulation in the attic, walls and floors, a new white roof that reflects heat, a forced-air furnace and high-efficiency appliances.

The cost: upward of $33,800.

Its going to be very expensive to live in Berkeley CA

What happened was, politicians like Barney Frank and community groups like ACORN didn't like the way the market was working: i.e. only loaning money to people who could pay it back.

So, what they did was two things. First, they threatened the banks with costly investigations if they didn't make more high-risk loans. Two, they implicitly socialized the risk of those loans, telling the banks the government would assume the risk.

They politicized the loan market in order to help out selected groups of people. The result was predictable.

I'd like to hear your justification for using tax dollars collected in Flordia and every other state to supplement a local ordanance such as this in Berkeley.

Are you willing to send your money to Berkeley for a local ordanance of questionable ROI?

After all Moon Bat, you invited yourself to this party.

You want to discuss it, start.

This is why 10's of thousands of people, who have jobs, took a day off on the 15th to be seen and voice their views.

What about you? Are you willing to go to the 60 to 70% tax rate of the glorious New Deal?

Your thoughts are welcome on this.

Dear Donna S et al.

I'm writing in regard to your recent letter to CNN. I am a father, husband, worker and like you, a tax payer.

Like you, I don't consider myself an extremist by any stretch however, over the 8 years of the Bush Administration, I chose to not remain silent as I was far from pleased with the leadership. Although my thinking tilts far left on many issues, I do promote free enterprise and I don't feel that the prosperous owes anything to anyone simply because they've done well. I think that the government could do much better at decreasing spending and that could and should lead to less taxes for hopefully, all taxpayers. I suppose my issue is that the Bush years were years of runaway pork barrel spending. While pumping money to bridges to nowhere, they cut taxes for the wealthy. While letting corporate interest run wild with deregulations and tax breaks, they cut taxes for the wealthy. While engaging in 2 costly wars, they cut taxes for the wealthy. Now that they've butchered the village milk cow and feasted on prime bib, they walk away leaving the people hungry, angry, and scared.

The main issue of me writing this to you is that unlike you and your children you mentioned, I have no clue as to what your true intentions were pertaining to the Tea Parties. You seem to be implying a resentment of tax increases but their have been none. I'm detecting a concern of future tax increases but other than letting the tax increases expire for the top 5%, I'm not hearing of any in the works. I'm curious as to why so many would choose to be an advocate for the most wealthy. I'm also hearing an anger over high spending. I have to wonder where you were during the Bush years. When I complained then, why was I called a Bush basher and unpatriotic?

I'm not overly thrilled with the recent wave of spending but I'm not thoroughly convinced that it was unnecessary or at least, partially necessary. I do know that the first stimulus was supported by both parties and signed by Bush. I wasn't thrilled with the bank bailouts but I'm not sure I want to gamble the ramifications if we did nothing. I am glad that Democrats were there to fight off Secretary Paulson's demand for a blank check. We may not see eye to eye on the past stimulus but I really don't think that doing nothing is the cure. So I ask, what excatly is it that provoked these good Americans to come out and protest and what exactly is it that they're protesting. The fact that so many were protesting socialism and fascism gives an appearance that they're more angry that their candidates lost the elections. I'm not saying this is representative of your cause but I am curious as to what exactlty that cause is.

I have to apologize as I too am guilty of referring to these folks as "teabaggers". I didn't realize it was offensive and I'll certainly discontinue using it here as well as elsewhere.

In closing, kudos for letter to CNN and for your participation in what you believe to be important. It's noble of you to utilize your freedom of expression and I certainly wish you the best in your endeavors.

Sencerly,

Andy Jones
aka andy42302
Owensboro, KY

V the K -

Don't forget about ACORN demonstrations and direct threats to bank presidents homes and places of work. But, hey, that sounds too much like domestic terriorism activities, or what Bill Ayres would do.

Oiao -- Yep, we'll see how the Obamabots like it when their own "chickens," as it were, come home to roost. You wanted CHANGE? To paraphrase the Great One, you're about to pay for the "change" you wanted, right in the neck! Screw all you drones who voted for this pathetic Marxist moron.

Honestly, does ANYONE actually tune in the Communist News Network anymore? Lib drivel, slavish Obama-worship, zero reporting. Hey, if you want pure Obammunist propaganda, watch MSNBC (Whoops! Excuse me! That should be MSLSD). Much more interesting to see certifiably insane people frothing at the mouth, than supposed "journalists" spewing forth the Dhimmicrat line verbatim from Herr Emmanuel's latest briefing (er, talking-points fax).

Ted Turner -- used to like you when I lived in Atlanta in the mid- to late 70's, with Channel 17 (UHF), which became the "Superstation," and your America's Cup racing; you actually seemed like a genuine American, a real capitalist -- once again, looks like he's just one of the many mind-numbed robots out there with way, way, way too much free time on their hands, and lots and lots of guilt (over nothing real, of course; how many thousands of folks have you employed over the years? Jobs, income, money to save, a future -- all just about gone now with our new Messiah. You ought to wake up there, Ted!). Now I can see how you and fellow traveler Hanoi Jane could get along so well . . .

Honestly, does ANYONE actually tune in the Communist News Network anymore?

They run it in the lobby of the office where I work.

BTW, there was more that CNN didn't show.

The letter, which engendered all of these comments in this thread, has attracted a number of apologists for CNN and the media who are in disguise and posting as interested citizens. Numerous people posting comments are trying to change the subject and turn all comments and resentment against the media in another direction. They cannot afford to have people thinking and writing about the disinformation and lack of coverage of the true agenda and culprits of these so-called toxic assets.

The media is extremely vulnerable-financially and otherwise. These people are on this thread fighting for their lives and trying to act calm and reasoned as they do so. They want to “engage” us to change and redirect the topic away from this thread to anything but the irresponsible behavior that is the subject of the letter. When we all finally realize we can cut off their financial support by not buying products and services from those who buy their advertising it is checkmate. We do not have to stop a very big percentage of their existing ad revenue to put an end to this type of so called news and do so in a very short time. They try to diminish the Tea Party attendance with no coverage and false reporting. However, we can show them how many we are by voting with our dollars. They cannot falsify that reality.

A direct and focused attack on those who pay the bills of these media companies and fellow travelers of CNN is the best and quickest solution especially in these economic times. Our best vote now is with our dollars. We did not win the last election. But we did not lose our constitutionally guaranteed rights as democrat behavior demonstrates that they seem to believe. The reality is that our purchasing power far out-strips those who voted for democrats. Remember, 40% of those who work do not even pay income tax and most of them probably voted democrat.

Let’s get busy, immediately, writing to all of those companies who sponsor CNN and similar propaganda outlets and provide them with a very simple message. Until those with whom you advertise are unwilling to provide honest and unbiased news, I will not be purchasing any of your products. I will also suggest to all of my friends who complain about the bias in the press to stop complaining and just stop purchasing from those who enable the bias press to operate. It will not take long for them to change their policies or find themselves without resources to operate. Let’s get started-NOW

MOONBATS ARE WACKS

Michael -
That's all well and good except for one little thing...
I never (EVER) have my television tuned to CNN so I don't have a clue who their advertisers might be.
I'll have to leave it to someone else to give me a list - I'm not about to watch CNN to find out.

Jimbo,

Here's a list that henry provided up the (unbelievable, possibly record-setting) thread:

For those who vote with their dollars, quick list of CNN advertisers:

JK Harris and Company
AstraZeneca Pharmaceuticals
E-Trade
Monex Precious Metals
Sprint / Nextel
Select Quote
Wells Fargo
AARP
Philips / Norelco
Subaru
Geico
Boston Market
Overstock.com
Liberty Medical
Live Well Financial
American Coalition for Clean Coal
University of Phoenix
Partnership for Prescription Assistance
Ehealth Insurance Services
Dodge
Hyundai
Jos A Banks Clothiers
Career Builder.com
Zurich Financial Services
Johnson and Johnson
US Home Auction
Cisco
Exxon Mobil
Jitterbug

Jimbo, here's a link for you.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/diversity

A full and in dept comprehension of it could do wonders for you and perhaps make a profound difference on your thought process.

By the way, I watch FOX News. I find them bias but I listen to what they have to say. They were however, in all their efforts, unable to persuade me to attend a Tea Party.

Hey andy scared someone might have opened your eyes?

What a .....

Hey Andy would you attend and ACORN rally?

Free, I have no clue as to what you're asking or trying to say. But more importantly, do you?

Shout out to Jimbo.

Just to catch ya up...... one third rate troll hanging out.

They didn't even care to send a second stringer today.

That about sums it up.

Enjoy your Mai Tai.

FREE, my last comment referred to the opening of my eyes, whatever that meant. To answer your question if I would attend an ACORN rally, the answer is no.

Why not Andy?

I'm detecting a concern of future tax increases but other than letting the tax increases expire for the top 5%, I'm not hearing of any in the works.

And how do you think your Marxist Messiah is going to pay for his massive deficits? The WSJ has done an analysis and not even taking down to $50K at the top rate doesn't come close to paying for all of his new spending.

And could you identify the specific deregulation that occurred under the Bush Admin that led to the present crisis, as you claim it did?

I want to attend an ACORN rally, but I have the wrong skin pigment and bathe and wear color coordinated clothing (so claiming that I'm a white self hating leftist organizer is out).

I have seen one of their rallies. They look like welfare receiving losers dancing and cheering like wild animals.

How appropriate they would names themselves after a nut.

Andy I would have thought you would be in tight with these people after all.....Birds of a feather!

Here's some more CNN advertisers:

Procter & Gamble Co
Altria Group Inc
General Motors
AOL-Time Warner
Verizon
Dell
Petmed Express Inc
Pepsico Inc
Ford Motors
Kelloggs
Sony Corp
Novartis
Disney
General Mills
Daimler Chrysler
Hyundai Corp
Berkshire Hathaway
Honda
Nestle
Toyota
Progressive Insurance
AT&T
Intel
National Amusements Inc
Raymond James' Investor Relations
Unilever
GlaxoSmithKline
Cendant Corp
General Electric
Clorox
Pfizer
Nissan
Bayer
Coca-Cola
McDonald's
Home Depot
American Express
Deutsche Telekom
Anheuser-Busch
Sears
Schering-Plough
Allstate

Oiao at April 19, 2009 6:23 PM

I figured that when I saw the post count - I don't even indulge the scumbags any longer, which also means skipping replies to scumbags. (Arguing with a fool and all that.)

Thanks, MartHunter for copying the list down for this lazy old fart. I don't see but two I do business with, anyhow. But I'll write Johnson & Johnson and Boston Market, and tell whem I'll be happy to quit spending my EARNED money with them.

uh, Watching, why would I? ?

V The K, some of the deregulation are a rule that relaxes enforcement against factory-farm runoff, a rule that permits more waste from mountaintop mining to be dumped into waterways, a rule seemingly designed to protect pharmaceutical companies from being held liable for marketing products they know are unsafe, a rule that makes it more difficult for workers to take advantage of the Family and Medical Leave Act, a rule that reduces access of Medicaid beneficiaries to services such as dental and vision care, and a rule that could limit women’s access to reproductive health services.

Your question about "my" Marxist Messiah only validates my assumption that your so called tax protest had nothing to do with taxes but rather your disdain for the government that was overwhelmingly elected by the people.

Hitler was "elected by the people". That is THE poorest excuse for bending to an idiot minion of the soclialist rulers you liberals have. Is that the best you can do?

bill, that's a good point and so very true. Hitler was indeed elected by the people. Did people protest in the streets of Germany under the disguise of protesting taxes to have Hitler ousted? Of course not, they would have been shot. Are you suggesting that your FOX induced tax protest is a fraud?

Please allow me to ask once more for fear of being misunderstood. What exactly are these TEA Parties protesting against? I seem to be missing it.

The so-called "FOX induced" tax protest was neither FOX induced, nor a tax protest. It was mainly a grass-roots protest against collectivist ideology and its extremely high costs, which down the road will be reflected in taxes.

That some of the people at the protests were a tad inarticulate or un-surefooted under media fire says a few things. One, as a nascent movement of the disaffected, some of the disaffected haven't fully nailed down why they are disaffected, but indeed they are. That could potentially roll up into a real movement. Scorn and ridicule from the Daily Show and CNN doesn't make it less real, or their concerns less legitimate; it only means that the professional elite is scornful of grassroots opposition to the liberal program. Two, the issue set involved in collectivism and its impact on society is a complex one, with a lot of different tentacles, from taxation to personal liberty and freedom. Hence, the CNN chick's assinine attempt to crunch it down to a $400 tax rebate; even the media elite can't get their arms around what this is really about - "yet". But that doesn't mean it isn't about something. Three, liberals would do well to keep their scorn in check, as the opposition is currently a new, weak seedling but is sure to grow some cotyledons soon.

I suggest you moonbat trolls go reread your Hegel before getting too overconfident in the silliness of the protest movement. Obama's intended radical rewrite of our society contains the seeds of its own demise. In fact, a few of those seeds are starting to sprout. They look a little pathetic right now, sure. But there are millions and millions and millions and millions of people who are very, very unhappy with the statist, collectivist, transnational, reflexively leftist, redistributionist, contemptuous program being rolled out by the Democrats; not enough yet to vote them out, but perhaps in the not too distant future. A lot of people in this basically center-right country decided Obama wasn't a terrible guy and if ever the historic racism wrong would be addressed via a presidential election, this was the guy with whom to give it a shot and the time to do it. That is a very different thing than everyone being on board with a far-left rewrite of our politics, economics and culture.

Andy take the blinders off. The government is out of control with the money and all these bailouts.

Andy:

The United States government is planning to spend trillions more dollars than it collects from US taxpayers. It will do this by borrowing money from the Chinese, Saudi Arabia and others. This money will be flushed down the toilet on a laundry list of wish-list projects that have been percolating and accumulating in the heads of Congress' Democrats for 30 years. We will have little to nothing to show for it, except a bill so huge that it can never be repaid, and will saddle generations of Americans with unfathomable debt and reduction of power, status, and standard of living. At different levels of expertise, knowledge, and familiarity with economic issues, the protesters are upset about their lack of power or ability to influence events that, truly, are and will affect their lives, and the lives of their great grandchildren. But the issue comes back to borrowing money we do not have. If "taxes" is how some protesters understand it, well, "taxes" is also how it is being explained by the mainstream media. But the issue of debt and responsible finance is deeper than taxes, and if anything should be obvious, it's that the protesters sense there is something much more wrong going on here than a less-than-perfect marginal tax rate.

I don't really understand why you trolls and left-wing enthusiasts are so dense about the protests, or so quick to dismiss them. The people are upset. So far, the stimulus programs and new budgets and debt guarantees have cost Americans $34,000 per man, woman, and child. That is a lot of money. It makes people think something is wrong, and that the political and financial elite don't know what they're doing, which is scary.

Make sense?

Andy,

I can't answer for everyone but for myself and my family, we attended the TEA Party to protest the out-of-control spending and ever-increasing size and scope of government - local, state and federal. We've been opposed to bailing out any privately held company, and when more than half of AIG's bailout money went to foreign banks, I was astounded that anyone would bother complaining to the extent that they did about their retention bonuses. Most of them had no clue what a retention bonus actually is. Our beef (as it is) does not lie solely with any single act of legislation with the past or the current administration, rather with the cumulative waste of the past 30+ years. However, a $787 billion dollar price tag on the pork-loaded stimulus was more wasteful than anything this country has seen to date. Who's going to pay for that? Do you know? Where was the deliberation when this was rammed through?

I think it's rather short-sighted and demonstrates a pretty petty form of class envy for those who complain about tax cuts to the 'wealthy'. What they are ultimately referring to are tax cuts to people who actually pay taxes, and in all fairness, create jobs and produce what sells (goods and services people actually want or need). Corporate tax cuts were made and deregulation enacted in hopes of bringing hiring freezes to an end, and generally those tactics work. Economic Stimulus bills don't work, we should have learned that by now. I was present and bitching at my husband all through the Bush years. Had there been any real leadership then, people would understand the necessity of the military action we've taken and this economy wouldn't be the mess it is.

With the Bush 2008 stimulus, at least we got a check. The money came (back) to my husband and I to use as we saw fit. Obama's stimulus will be shelled out to State and Local governments who've already shown that they can't manage money. My own city has plans to use $1.5 million in stimulus funds to build a halfway house for 'reforming' hookers, but can't put enough emergency services personnel on the payroll to meet the city's needs. How many other cities and states have similar frivolous plans for stimulus funds? It's pure waste; and locally, a huge problem and reason to protest.

The cost of Bush's 2008 stimulus was $152 billion, which, while far too high for the effect it brought, was still $635 billion less than the Obama stimulus. Obama ran on change, doing it differently, being transparent and accountable. So far, we've had ramped-up versions of the worst of the Bush policies.

Consumer costs for government spending will rise as the companies who produce the goods and services we use every day are taxed and regulated beyond what is necessary. Cap and Trade will raise your rates to heat and light your home or business; and common, non-wealthy people like me use electricity too. I just can't afford to pay anymore as it is. All the absolute crap in the stimulus has to be paid for, and taxes will go up, whether income taxes, sales taxes or excise, someone, everyone, will end up paying.

The waiter will drop the check on the table, and how many of our representatives (D, R or Other) have already left their wallets in the car? There were many people at our TEA Party that are fed up with everyone in congress, regardless of the letter which follows their name. If this has anything to do with elections, it isn't about sore losers, but about what both parties need to be very aware of going into the 2010 round-up. This is not a one-shot thing, it is a real movement, with real people and no small one at that. We'll be attending another in July.

My problem with CNN was (I felt) pretty clear in my letter to them. I resent the bias as an insult to my intelligence, and I am extremely offended by their double-standard on 'family viewing'. I'm not one to resort to name-calling, it diminishes the discussion and accomplishes nothing. The 'teabagging' remarks are vulgar and offensive no matter who says it. Apology accepted, and I commend you for being man enough to offer one.

Best wishes to you and your family as well.

Donna

Obama won by a very small margin. Calling it overwhelming is stretching the truth a lot.

Obama won because conseratives just did not go to the polls, and because Obama is a minority, many first and probabily only time voters showed up as a result of a good ACORN effort.

Obama does not have a mandate of the people, mearly a majority of the people by several % points.

There is a big difference in those two points.

Well crap, I hit the post button twice. Sorry Y'all. There's a German Chocolate cake on the counter behind me positively SCREAMING my name. My bad.

LOL varkswife

The real estate bubble burst because of mountaintop mining?

How bizarre.

If the proposed Cap and Trade plan of the Obama administration is passed, 100% of American households can expect higher energy bills. Add to that increasing taxes on tobacco products and you have just disproportionately taxed the people who can least afford it. Indirect taxes are still taxes.

It was fun 'tweeking' just one Troll to go over the century mark today.

All I have to do is just ride the 'Dragon' on my tricked out '48 (yeah, no s**t HD with matching cases) with a foot clutch and slap shifter, and I have self actualized.

Hey, anyone want to spellcheck me?

Oh, forgot to add....

In the glorious words of 'Odd Ball' from the movie 'Kelly's Heroes' - "Up yours baby!"

Especially if you are a liberal in the cross hairs....

To the left-leaners lurking on here: If you're still confused about what we were all about on 4/15, please scroll up and read Donna's post. Really read it.

Henry, thanks so much for compiling that list.

What I can conclude from this thread IS...The little goose-stepping lefties are VERY VERY afraid that the true AMERICAN PEOPLE are not willing to accept their push into Kim Jong Illness. EVEN they know the numbers lamestream media use to spin their agenda are not real. The reality of the numbers could smash their Glorious Commie Crusade. Any method to discredit the objection from the masses that love their country must be used. Even to the pettiness of grossly miscounting the attendance at these events. THEY ARE RUNNING SCARED. (GOD help them if Barry's real Birth Certificate ever get out!)

I have been calling it the Commie News Network for years!

Yeah, good letter. CNN not responding is about all the confirmation we need that they know it is dead on. I think they are hoping for a slice of the Obama 3 Trillion dollar pie.

Indeed, Ted. As I said on another thread, the far left initially tried just mocking the Tea Party movement like Cooper did, but now that they've seen how strong and well- organized we can be, they're getting scared, and that fear is quickly causing their reaction to us to turn from mockery to anger. Thus, if we can keep things as strong, it won't be long before the "infiltrators" and oter leftists start taking much more drastic measures to try and stop or silence us by any means they deem necessary.

Goose stepping lefties. Ah geeze,more name calling. There really is no talking to you folks. I feel that you probably don't talk like this to people in your real non-cyber lives. But on here, protected as you are, its like road rage. You just say what you want to vent.

You folks are the ones who sound both scared and angry. Put your anger aside. Calm down and talk.

Or, you know, call me a Commie again if that's more comfortable for you.

Oh, I see Moon Bat, calling people you disagree with "tea baggers" is, "hilarious," and we, "should be able to laugh..." But when you're rightly identified as a goose stepping leftie it's, "more name calling," and we're "scared and angry."

You're perfectly parroting whatever the current line-of-the-day is, and you don't expect to be called out as a mindless drone?

There really is no talking to you folks.

There's plenty of talking. You've been engaged over and over with reasoned responses, and you choose to focus on comments from people who really don't care that you even exist. That may make you feel better, but it certainly doesn't lend you any credibility.

Anyone can call the folks on the other side of the fence a mindless drone if they've heard the argument before. Is that the kind of thoughtful response you're talking about cowlove?

Y'all can predict doom and gloom for the current presidency, and as I've said I understand that kind of feeling when you've lost an election. But don't parade it around as if anyone who opposes you is crazy. 'Cause let me just say there are plenty of posts on here that sound that way to me.

And no, I don't feel like I've been engaged on most of what I've brought up. Its much easier to throw insults.

"I don't even indulge the scumbags any longer, which also means skipping replies to scumbags."

"A hot-poker enema would also do you some good"

"one third rate troll hanging out. They didn't even care to send a second stringer today. That about sums it up."

And my favorite: "Hitler was "elected by the people"."

Is this what I should say next time a Republican is in office? This stuff is really funny in comparison to the original tea joke. Someone on another thread insisted I must go to the bathhouse. Simply disgusting.

I've heard enough thanks.

Anyone can call the folks on the other side of the fence a mindless drone if they've heard the argument before. Is that the kind of thoughtful response you're talking about cowlove?

No, I'm talking about the intelligent comments from mega, Oaio, Jay Guevera, and others who clearly engaged you, that you conveniently skip over, preferring instead to focus on comments that offend your precious sensibilities. I'll grant you that you did respond to a couple of them, but you consistently let the discussion stop as soon as feel insulted by anyone else. Odd, seeing as earlier you stated, "Obviously, I don't have a problem being laughed at or I wouldn't be speaking up in such an inhospitable environment." It seems you do have a problem being laughed at, or at least you use it as a smokescreen when you're reasoned into a corner.

And please, give up the whole martyr complex. If you think tea bagging is such a hilarious joke then a comment that "insisted [you] must go to the bathhouse" isn't "disgusting," it's laugh-out-loud funny, right?

What a bunch of whining little people, especially the letter. Masses of you ran out last to protest, er! whine after 75+ days. Harness your rage! In addition, many did not even know the history of the tea parties, let alone be able to answer questions.What is clear is that you LOST! Get over it! You supported Reagan's bs voodoo economic policies that put our country in the position it is, and now we have to actually pay for it. Keep whining if you enjoyed America running with a second rate pack instead of leading the way with innovation. Keep whining if you wish to see the demise of American symbols of freedom like Unions and the idea of helping one another. Keep whining if you wish to be called "tea baggers". You look a bit silly waving your USA #1 foam finger when we rank 90th or 67th in in some categories etc. While you guys cling to the idea that 300,000 is a movement, keep in mind that when far much more was being spent in Iraq or disappearing those "liberals" gathered over million in one city, in one day.

Posted by: Moon Bat at April 20, 2009 7:10 AM

Ah geeze,more name calling. There really is no talking to you folks.

May I suggest you read the comments at DemoUnderground, HuffPo or DailyKos?

Ghost-
Just what part of Garofalo's diatribe did you find a poignant explanation of what the events entailed?
When she asserts that protesters are racists suffering from Stockholm Syndrome?

many did not even know the history of the tea parties, let alone be able to answer questions.

Evidence?

What is clear is that you LOST! Get over it!

You mean like the elections of 2000 and 2004?

You supported Reagan's bs voodoo economic policies that put our country in the position it is, and now we have to actually pay for it.

Phew, where to start on this one. First, you have no idea what people here did or did not support almost 30 years ago. Second, Reagan’s been out of office for over 20 years, and several economic booms have taken place in the last 30 years. (Even if you think Reagan’s policies were ill-advised, most Dems gush about the dot-com era – in the Clinton Administration - as a boom time.)

Third, it’s kind of choice that you bring up paying for things. Obama’s plan – three months into his Administration – saddles us with an additional trillion dollars in debt, according to the Congressional Budget Office. Do you know how much a trillion dollars is? Twelve zeros: $1,000,000,000,000. Many calculators can’t display that many digits; you’d have to resort to scientific notation. Look at it this way: if you spent $1 million every day from the birth of Christ, you won’t spend $1,000,000,000,000 until...2739 AD.

Keep whining if you wish to see the demise of American symbols of freedom like Unions and the idea of helping one another.

Unions are dinosaurs from the 19th century, that just barely made it into this one. Their passing will be a great benefit, not least to their members. Unions are to labor pretty much as OPEC is to oil. Who is most concerned with the passing of unions? Union bosses, and Democratic politicians, who count on those union bosses for campaign contributions from dues extracted from union members. Look at this way: why do unions need card check, if workers want to belong to unions? Clearly unions are aware that they’ll have a hard time winning a represenation election conducted by secret ballot. Otherwise, why would they be pushing so hard for card check?

Keep whining if you wish to be called "tea baggers".

Please don’t refer to homosexual practices, whether or not you engage in them.

You look a bit silly waving your USA #1 foam finger when we rank 90th or 67th in in some categories etc.

What a peculiar statement. 90th in some unspecified category? 67th in some other?

While you guys cling to the idea that 300,000 is a movement, keep in mind that when far much more was being spent in Iraq or disappearing those "liberals" gathered over million in one city, in one day.

Again, where to start? First, the civil rights started much smaller than the tea party one. So did the Stonewall movement that made perversion mainstream and fashionable. Second, the tea party movement is more significant than the elaborately choreographed left-wing demonstrations of past years, because it actually is grassroots, and the people attending are grownups. They’re not college students, professional agitators, or other unemployed parasites. They’re people with jobs, families, mortgages – in short, responsibilities. Most had never attended a demonstration before. Yet they made time to speak out against policies that will bankrupt this nation, and to speak out against hatred and class warfare – because that’s what drives leftist policies.

Again, put it another way. If the tea party movement is inconsequential, you have nothing to worry about, do you? Do you act unworried?

My take: liberals are scared to death right now. Opposition suits them; they can squawk and criticize, but not have to make any decisions, and can just wax eloquent about how good things would be, had they had power, but alas! they don’t. (A case in point: the wrong war, wrong time business. OK, so...what would be the right war, at the right time? It’s always something other than what the grownups had actually done. Cheap, and meretricious, but effective electioneering among the cognitively disenfranchised.)

Right now, however, they hold the reins, and they’ve got 100% responsibility for everything they do. Liberals are generating a record now that they’ll have to defend in 2010 and again in 2012. They can’t blame anyone else for it, either. No wiggle room, no cover, no smokescreen, no chance of laying off blame onto anyone else at all.

They’ve got reason to be terrified.

They'll also have to be the innovators when the rest of us go Galt.

Karin,

Working on that right now.

Actually, me too.

I'm all about going Galt right now.

Found that it is very easy to liquidate assets and park the value in things that are legal, yet do not get taxed every time they exchange hands.

Gee, I'm starting to sound like a collective hippy of the '60s (without all the drugs, and I do bathe daily). Ok, not so bad as long as I can keep the better part of what I work hard for (wealth of many forms) working hard to keep my family and close friends secure.

Obama will be forever know in history for economic failure and creating the biggest successful 'Black Market' the USA has ever had.

Your question about "my" Marxist Messiah only validates my assumption that your so called tax protest had nothing to do with taxes but rather your disdain for the government that was overwhelmingly elected by the people.

Posted by: andy42302 at April 19, 2009 7:06 PM

Lol. Remember when Bush didn't have a mandate, wasn't [the leftists'] president, stole the election, etc., all with a two point margin?

When a Democrat gets elected with a four point margin apparently he not only has a mandate but it's an "overwhelming" one.

Winning an election means diddly squat, douchebag. It means your guy is President for the next four years, not that everyone has to listen to what you (and he) say.

Bravo MC!

Awesome rebuttal, Jay.

A major difference between the tea party movement and the liberals' anti- war protests is that the teaparty movement isn't made up of astroturf protests attended by stoned college students and "Professional protestors" and backed by rich opportunists like George Soros who ensure that there are plenty of identical, mass- produced signs for everyone. It is a genuine grassroots movement attended by regular, working people with hand- written signs who've never been to a political demonstration before and just want their voices heard.