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March 17, 2009

Keep Your Guns, But as for the Bullets…

Apparently not all Dems in Congress are counting on ACORN and a rigged census to get them reelected regardless of what they do to voters, because they are now taking more subtle approaches to undermining our crucial right to bear arms. Part of the strategy is to raise the cost of ammo:

Several days ago, ammunition manufacturers were advised that the Department of Defense has decided to no longer sell empty, once-fired cartridge cases as surplus to companies that polish and reload those empties, recycling them back into the marketplace. Instead, the empty brass will be destroyed so that it cannot be re-loaded, for commercial use, for law enforcement training, for hunting, target shooting, for anything. The result is that at least one company has announced it may no longer offer remanufactured ammunition in two important calibers, 308 Winchester and .223 Remington.

The point is to make life as difficult as possible for gun owners, by any means that comes to mind. Bureaucrats have even taken an environmental angle:

Then came the announcement from the National Park Service that it plans to eliminate lead ammunition and fishing tackle from national parks by next year. While the announcement focused on eliminating lead fishing lures, sinkers and leaded line, and lead bullets used for culling animals — an idea that literally lit the collective fuse of the nation's sportsmen — there's something else afoot here. This would also prevent legally-armed, licensed private citizens from carrying traditional lead ammunition in their defensive handguns.

Concealed carry is allowed in national parks; it's only the ammunition that won't be permitted. After all, the Constitution grants us a right to bear arms, not a right to bear bullets.

Then there's the push to impose microstamping of bullets, which is spreading nationwide from California. This will not solve crimes but facilitate them by driving the cost of ammo through the roof, moving us toward the ultimate objective of a disarmed populace that will be powerless to prevent crimes committed by the State.

On a tip from Nancy. Hat tip: The Shootist.

Posted by Van Helsing at March 17, 2009 9:01 AM

Comments

Sooooo, this and the Obama SA are making me seriously consider the idea of buying up ammo and MRE's and moving to the hills. How far do you really think they'll get with this?

Posted by: Matt at March 17, 2009 9:46 AM

This is ridiculous! It is ingenious, but ridiculous. But, regrettably, I cannot see a way around it unless you learn how to make your own bullets and hide them.

http://franklinslocke.blogspot.com/

Posted by: Franklin's Locke at March 17, 2009 9:56 AM

If the DASTARDLY DEMACRATS cant ban guns they,ll prepose regulations on ammo just your dirty dastardly demacrats at work

Posted by: SPURWING PLOVER at March 17, 2009 11:38 AM

What kind of ammo will the park rangers carry?

Posted by: baldeagle390 at March 17, 2009 11:53 AM

No damn way. I'll got to Mexico if I have to. Screw this. They have no right!

Posted by: AC at March 17, 2009 1:28 PM

Guys, please tell me what's wrong with microstamping. I strongly support gun rights, and I also support law enforcement.

Posted by: Air2air at March 17, 2009 1:57 PM

Who's going to have the microstamped ammunition? The law-abiding among us, right? Make non-stamped ammunition illegal and what? EVERYBODY turns it in? Yeah right. So there you are with EVERY round costing $3-5 or so, including the "target practice" ones you fire on the range. Then watch them put a range-time requirement on a carry permit "for safety" don't you know. And how would it work with shotshells? You have to stamp every pellet? Face it, it's just yet another scam to make ammunition more expensive, obviously the strategy they've adopted. Rather than a frontal assault, undermine.

Posted by: Mr Evilwrench at March 17, 2009 2:19 PM

"Guys, please tell me what's wrong with microstamping."

It's been demanded before as a way to register each bullet.

Posted by: KHarn at March 17, 2009 2:45 PM

OK - don't forget.

CA and other states are going to push for also limiting the amount of 'new' ammo you can buy each month to a very small amount, at a very highly taxed rate.

Also, along with being very limited to the # of rounds (around a box a month by caliber), you will also have to have passed a background check and sign for the ammo - meaning they will know what calibers of guns you own, and where you live.

But who cares, they already make it illegal not to tell the State AGs office that you have weapons (like when you move into the state) though most gun owners do not know about that requirement or ignore it. This will be very stictly enforced after the manditory micro stam rules go into place in CA later this year.

Posted by: Oiao at March 17, 2009 4:58 PM

Posted by: Air2air at March 17, 2009 1:57 PM

I support gun bans, and after reading a bit I don't like this microstamping idea. The only scenario in which it would work is if someone bought the ammo, kept it, then used it in a crime and left the shell casing remaining behind. The only time I can think of that happening is in an unplanned crime, in which case solving the crime isn't going to rely on a single forensic clue like this.

Posted by: Anonymous at March 17, 2009 5:53 PM

Caution... don't be surprised if all of these anti-2A measures are cloaked and buried deep inside the Stimulus and Budget packages which were signed into law without anyone reading them.

You'll likely find a thinly-veiled version of the Blair Holt Bill (H.R. 45) has already been unknowingly signed into law.

The next three years are going to be FULL of surprises as Congress and the President reveal ALL that was passed and SIGNED INTO LAW under pressure of the fake "emergency." Fasten your seat belts America.

Posted by: Stymie at March 17, 2009 6:53 PM

Posted by: Steve at March 17, 2009 8:29 PM

Air2air,

Basically, microstamping is a joke. Some states already require samples of fired brass and shells in the hopes that it will help them solve crime. It doesn't.

Further, this microstamping is being pushed by one company that will get rich off of it. It will drive ammo prices through the roof, making it harder for gun owners to exercise their rights. Which is the goal, in any case.

Frankly, you can't say you support gun rights while at the same time supporting the nonsense of the gun banning groups. They don't want guns, period, and they'll do whatever it takes to get them away from law-abiding people.

Posted by: Steve at March 17, 2009 8:36 PM

Van,

Re Anonymous at March 17, 2009 5:53 PM,

Please edit or delete his comment. I support free speech, but there is some speech that should be banned.

Posted by: Steve at March 17, 2009 8:38 PM

Steve - thanks for the firearms blog update on this story. Still, gun owners should probably expect something like this to crop up in the future; I'm sure somebody in the Obama administration is paying attention and thinking "Now THAT'S a good idea!"

Posted by: PabloD at March 17, 2009 8:52 PM

Due to the expansion of the rounds after they strike something, the chance that they would ricochet and deform the microstamp (it is micro, after all), and the general "well no crap" idea of simply filing the damn things off, the whole thing is a sham at best.

More expensive ammo. That's it.

Posted by: Evil Monk at March 17, 2009 9:33 PM

Revolvers don't eject spent cartridges.

Posted by: Wyatt at March 17, 2009 10:46 PM

Posted by: Steve at March 17, 2009 8:38 P

Fascism, or irony? So hard to tell in text.

Hey, idiot, free speech means speech you don't like, too.

Posted by: Anonymous at March 18, 2009 12:15 AM

revolvers dont jam either.
A gun show here sold 3 semi trailers of ammo in 2 days.
None marked,no signature,no background check.

Posted by: czuch at March 18, 2009 7:55 AM

There are pros and cons to revolvers and semi-autos. Might I suggest several of each?

Handguns are are all well and good for self-defense, but when it comes to defending our civil liberties, get something larger. Get several. Get as many bullets as you can. We can bitch all we want about these types of policies, but the only real, immediate solution is to buy all the rounds you can.

Posted by: cowlove at March 18, 2009 9:49 AM

Anonymous at March 18, 2009 12:15 AM

If you think you have the right to infringe on my Second Amendment right, then I have the right to infringe on your First Amendment right.

Get it now?

Van knows I was being sarcastic.

Posted by: Steve at March 18, 2009 5:26 PM

AS stated before...... the mutilation order was rescinded yesterday at 5:15pm . And I am quite frankly shocked that anyone at DOD does anything at all that late in the day . Having a couple of Senators screaming at you on the phone probably helped .

Posted by: Katya Kakhov at March 18, 2009 5:59 PM