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Kotler should lead by example.

If the porkulus bill passes, they'll be off to a stellar beginning in their efforts to cull the herd by way of The One's "healthcare plan" which has been slipped into the bill. It basically gives the government the right to decide who lives and who dies.
How very Hitleresque....

"I think that no dog has ever, intentionally, for reasons of selfish greed, destroyed their home like we have ours."

I don't know, I've seen some pretty destructive dogs, and I'm pretty sure they were being destructive just for the fun of it.

Kotler needs to bike across the country, especially Iowa, Kansas, and Illinois. Open space and seas of grain as far as the eye can see. We have an over abundance of food; that's why grain prices stay low (until moonbatty ethanol plants started springing up).

Kotler seems like a good place to start.

He should lead by example.

Judith, that's what I thought when I read it. I've raised four puppies in my lifetime so far. One chewed up my passport one week before the trip! God bless 'em, though.

All these anti-human people have come out of the woodwork since the annointment. A lot out of Britain. Has anyone read Mark Steyn's America Alone? His theories would explain a lot of this.

Maybe Kotler can start the depopulation effort by offing himself.

From that photo of Kotler I rather doubt he's going to be reproducing, if you know what I mean.

I'm not worried.

I know where people like this get their food.

I live there.

They call it flyover country.

We won't let our own kids go hungry to feed some useless snob and we have the means of defending what we have. Always will.

Btw, most of our armed forces are from our population- so if you think it can be taken at gunpoint- think again.

In the first place, we haven't "destroyed our home," in the second place animals don't conceive of their life as a span of years and decades and so their "quality of life" can only be of the most physical nature and third, it's only the collectivist-socialist mindset that views a large population as a liability - in a society based on freedom more people means more minds at work figuring things out, inventing new things that make life better, more interesting and more worth living.

Every premise that this small minded man believes in is wrong.

Lead by example, moonbat.

Hey, I'd like to get rid of four billion people too. Are the nominations open yet? Someone get me rosters of Code Pink, Earth First, PETA, ANSWER...

Dogs aren't destructive? My neighbors dog has been shredding their hot tub cover, and the pieces they miss blow in my yard. My parents dog used to shred my stuffed animals when we left the house without her. Dogs left to their own devices will form packs and run down deer just for fun. Sorry, dogs are no better than their owners - some are wonderful and some are not.

Would mr kotler and his zero populationists please report the the nearist convenent disintigration booth for imedeate elimination

Tell you what Mr Kotler, start with yourself and all your family and we'll(wink, wink)be right behind you

When I was in school in the 60s we were told in Social Studies class that the world would be full by the year 2000; there would be no more places to build houses on land and we would be living under the ocean.

*snicker*

When my dog was a puppy, he ate his own poop.
Just like Moonbats!

Satanic? soft headed maybe, uninformed maybe, big mouth maybe.

Geez. Isn't there a more likely explanation?
Like the practically universal human tendency towards faith?

How about how we always seem to filter our experience to support our current beliefs?

How about ignorance mixed with arrogance, because we think we are better informed than we really are?

Bias.

Where is evidence that this guy is satanic? Would that not be reliant on a religious doctrine?

Sure, losing 4 billion people "fast" seems so wrong, I agree. How would we lose them except war disease, famine, catastrophe, or genocide? Even enforced birth control would not be "fast" but then I have no idea what is behind this guys statements. I don't claim knowledge I don't have in this case.

Paul R. Ehrlich should sue this guy for plagiarism. Kotler's thesis sounds like Ehrlich's with the dates reset.
Mr Kotler might like to try a repeat of the famous Simon-Ehrlich wager, if he is willing to wait before exterminating about 73% of the human race
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon-Ehrlich_wager

"fine ahht at February 10, 2009 2:04 PM"

You sound like you can't believe it even though you know it's true. It seems that you want to rail against this madness, even though some high-profile Liberals have demanded depopulation to "save" the Earth (This goes back many decades, I first heard this crap in the sixtys).

There may be hope for you yet.

Maybe the Scientologists were right after all!

"You don't know the history of psychiatry, and I do!"

You first, Steve

Both PAUL EHRLICH and STEBEN KOTLER should report to the nearists disintigration booth right now your names have come up on our computer

Posted by: fine ahht at February 10, 2009 2:04 PM

Satanic? soft headed maybe, uninformed maybe, big mouth maybe.

Adolf Hitler, generally perceived as the most evil person to have ever lived, was responsible for the deaths of about 17 million civilians; and guess what it was that he was looking for?

Lebensraum, or "living space," the idea that Germans should be supported by vast agricultural tracts and agricultural surpluses. The civilians in question were removed to that end, in favour of Germans.

Joseph Stalin, who may have been responsible for more innocent deaths than Hitler (although is less reviled as many people still think communism is a viable political system), pursued similar practices in search of an agricultural production base for communism, culminating in the Holodomor which may have killed more people than the Shoah itself.

I personally consider Stalin to be no less evil than Hitler and, in fact, more "satanic" in that he did far more damage to the fate of humanity, and the system he was instrumental in creating - communism - persists in harming humans to this day, all the while presenting a facade that is acceptable and even attractive to many people.

At least Hitler limited his ambitions to the German people -- Stalin wanted the world.

And yet between the two of them, Hitler and Stalin -- if we assume conservative figures of around 15 million deaths for which Stalin was culpable -- their combined total is less than 1% of Kotler's suggested population reduction figure.

If anything, describing an ideology which advocates a Lebensraum scheme more than 100 times as deadly as both Hitler and Stalin combined as "satanic" is an understatement.

Geez. Isn't there a more likely explanation?
Like the practically universal human tendency towards faith?

The word "satanic" does not mean what you think it does.

It means "demonic: extremely evil or cruel; expressive of cruelty or befitting hell."

It does not necessarily, or at all, denote a belief in a literal Satan.

Where is evidence that this guy is satanic? Would that not be reliant on a religious doctrine?

No. See above. It is a little disturbing that you would continually try to argue points such as this one when you are clearly extremely poorly informed and uneducated.

Sure, losing 4 billion people "fast" seems so wrong, I agree.

How would we lose them except war disease, famine, catastrophe, or genocide? Even enforced birth control would not be "fast" but then I have no idea what is behind this guys statements. I don't claim knowledge I don't have in this case.

Then why even attempt to comment on it, or rationalize it?

The simple fact is that Kotler, a psychiatrist, is advocating a theory in which having children is "stealing from the future" and "murdering," (his words), and attempting to support, via puported science, the concept that 4.4 billion of the earth's inhabitants are an excessive strain and will result in the death of the rest of the earth's inhabitants.

Kotler is not an isolated voice; there are many, many many others who think this way.

History contains ample evidence of what happens when holders of such ideology reach a position of sufficient strength to enact it.

I gave two of those examples above.

If you are still unable to comprehend why ideologies like Kotler's need to be opposed then I am sorry but you lack the requisite intelligence and compassion to be classed as human.