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February 1, 2009
British Want Their Guns Back
But it's easier to give up liberty than to get the government to return it:
On a tip from Wiggins.
Posted by Van Helsing at February 1, 2009 10:54 AM
Comments
...from my cold, dead fingers.
Live free or die, baby.
Posted by: matt at February 1, 2009 11:26 AM
If this doesn't make everyone want to join the NRA, nothing will.
Posted by: shunha7878 at February 1, 2009 11:40 AM
There are guns in the UK alright, except they're all in the hands of "youths" if you know what I mean
Posted by: antipinko at February 1, 2009 12:36 PM
You can be in denial matt, but pretty soon in the US, all of us are going to be forced to OBEY.
This is what Nancy PolPot is doing right now.
On Jan 6, 2009, the following was entered into the House of Representatives on US Gun Control -
House Resolution - HR 45
This Link has the full text - scroll down http://www.virtualjeepclub.com/showthread.php?p=423945#post423945
Some more info - http://www.stoptheaclu.com/archives/2009/01/15/hr-45-here-comes-gun-control/
Posted by: Oiao at February 1, 2009 1:18 PM
Since the Supreme Court ruling on gun ownership in D.C., the liberals are taking a new tact to force law abiding citizens to just give up on firearm ownership.
The libs realize that they can not, at this time, again - AT THIS TIME BUT SOON - force law abiding citizens to surrender firearms. That is the next step, later, after they make laws that totally expose who owns what firearms (of course the criminals won't comply, but that does not bother them since that is their voter base anyway).
11 states are currently going after forcing ammunition manuf to put serial numbers on every round, and force background checks for everyone who buys ammo. Re-loading will become illegal. The govt will know who you are and what types of caliber weapons you own.
Coupled with HR45 (above post) the govt will know what you own and make you a criminal if you do not obey by the deadlines imposed for "registering" yourself and your firearms under its provisions.
The next step will be for them to find you criminally at fault and prosecute you and take your firearms for any infraction.
What I, and most law abiding citizens fear, is after they have the political ability, they will start openly consficating weapons from law abiding US Citizens.
When the Second Amendment is dead, the First no longer matters.
Posted by: Oiao at February 1, 2009 1:27 PM
"all of us are going to be forced to OBEY" - only the liberal sheep here, Oiao.
Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not." ~Thomas Jefferson
FIREARMS REFRESHER COURSE
1. An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject.
2. A gun in the hand is better than a cop on the phone.
3. Colt: The original point and click interface.
4. Gun control is not about guns; it's about control.
5. If guns are outlawed, can we use swords and IEDs?
6. If guns cause crime, then pencils cause misspelled words.
7. Free men do not ask permission to bear arms.
8. If you don't know your rights, you don't have any.
9. Those who trade liberty for security have neither.
10. The United States Constitution (c) 1791. All Rights Reserved.
11. What part of 'shall not be infringed' do you NOT understand?
12. The Second Amendment is in place in case the politicians ignore the others.
13. 64,999,987 firearms owners killed no one yesterday.
14. Guns have only two enemies; rust and politicians.
15. Know guns, know peace, know safety. No guns, no peace, no safety.
16. You don't shoot to kill; you shoot to stay alive.
17. 911: Government sponsored Dial-a-Prayer.
18. Assault is a behavior, not a device.
19. Criminals love gun control; it makes their jobs safer.
20. If guns cause crime, then matches cause arson.
21. Only a government that is afraid of its citizens tries to control them.
22. You have only the rights you are willing to fight for.
23. Enforce the gun control laws we ALREADY have; don't make more.
24. When you remove the people's right to bear arms, you create slaves.
25. The American Revolution would never have happened with gun control.
Posted by: TED at February 1, 2009 1:48 PM
Oh yes, I carry a gun because a cop is too heavy.
Posted by: TED at February 1, 2009 1:50 PM
When and if the killing starts, guns won't matter. There are gasoline, glass, clubs, rocks, and chemicals and poisons. There are wire, electricity, gas, knives,and fire. There are hands and feet and any number of sharp and blunt objects. To kill one may need to get close enough and not give a damn about ones personal future or the consequences and one would sure have a wide selection of choices.
After a tyrant has destroyed completely the quality of life of freedom loving people, to be safe the tyrant or a despot can never get within 10 feet of one of his victims or let them know where he lives or who his family is or where they are. He can never be alone or unguarded. He can never leave his family, his friends, his pets, or his property unguarded.
Once they understand this basic truth and the consequences of total collapse, taking guns from people might not be quite as important to those who have some secondary purpose.
This is not a future I wish for or advocate. It is merely the future I forsee. I will not participate--but if alive I will observe.
Posted by: SnowSnake at February 1, 2009 1:56 PM
ROFLMAO on the last one Ted :-)
Posted by: Oiao at February 1, 2009 1:57 PM
My gun has never killed anybody.
Ted Kennedy killed with his car.
Let's ban cars.
Posted by: jj at February 1, 2009 2:03 PM
How old is this video? I think I first saw it six months ago.
Posted by: Nancy at February 1, 2009 2:25 PM
Does not matter how old the video is - the damage is done. The UK and Europe have chosen the socialist hell they are degrading to.
The question is, how soon until a similar video happens to be made by US citizens.
Meanwhile, PETA preaches crap and the insurance industry is going bonkers over having to pay for deer and Moose car encounter that are rising to unprecedented levels, because people can not hunt these animals in a porportional manner to keep the numbers in check.
At lease NJ has an open season on Canadian Geese this year (and this was decided prior to the crash into the Hudson River caused by goose strikes).
As for the talk of IEDs above (previous post), there is a whole generation of patriots coming home from two combat zones who are well versed in the deployment and use of them. That is something the Liberal Democratic Socialists are not prepared to deal with, or have even considered.
Posted by: Oiao at February 1, 2009 3:43 PM
Just in case anybody hasn't noticed: this is about fox hunting. From the comments above anybody would think this was a video about Brits wishing to overthrow the government.
Posted by: George Miller at February 1, 2009 4:38 PM
It's too bad the MSM does not do a serious report on England and what's going on there - and never will. We're doomed too.
Posted by: puffdaddy at February 1, 2009 5:02 PM
My gun never killed anybody cant say the same for ted kenendy
Posted by: Spurwing Plover at February 1, 2009 6:01 PM
"How old is this video? I think I first saw it six months ago."
It's timeless Nancy...
Posted by: TED at February 1, 2009 8:09 PM
Amen, TED... amen. I'm afraid of the few of us who will stand when the time comes. The Left has done such a damn fine job brainwashing the young. They find it easier to just voluntarily place their heads on the chopping block these days.
Posted by: Anonymous at February 1, 2009 9:23 PM
I mentioned to one of my proud progressive friends that BHO was voted 'Gun Salesman of the Year', and he got a good chuckle out of those "ignorant, paranoid, right-wing, hillbillies" who just aren't sophisticated enough to see that any laws that The One might impose are simply for our own good. He says that there is really nothing in O's record that shows he would ever diminish our 2nd Amendment rights -- much. In fact, since, as he says, the Constitution is a living document, it's high time to impose some necessary changes to gun ownership from on-high (never mind the amendment process).
I posted elsewhere that in this conservation he lectured several people about how the 2nd Amendment is outdated, and that if we are allowed any guns at all they should be flintlocks and muzzle loaders like the Founders intended -- and if the gov't is stupid enough to allow anything like a modern firearm, every shell casing should be serial numbered and we should be accountable to the gov't for every shot fired.
Like most sanctimonious, smug, condescending progressives, he has Terminal Europe Envy and gets most of his ideas from the highly evolved societies of Europe. He then went on to preach about how conservative ideals are threatening our liberties.
He says that the concept of a citizen militia is preposterous in this day and age because we could never fight a military that has superior arms, and unless we are all allowed to be as equally armed as the military there is no use in having any guns at all. Beyond limited use for hunting, nobody has any need for a firearm in modern America. Those who don't agree are dismissed as backward hicks who need to be(re)educated so they understand what real progress is all about.
Funny thing is, he is a nice guy and we have lots in common except for everything political. The disturbing thing is that he is not a naive college kid. He's 50 and he is a public school teacher. But we can be sure his agenda never seeps into his lesson plans, don't you think?
Trying to explain the things listed in TED's great post is futile to these people because the mind of a progressive is resistant to maturity, and they are unable to alter their skewed view of reality.
Posted by: lvb-rocks at February 1, 2009 10:58 PM
@ lvb-rocks,
First off, good post. Thanks for sharing.
Secondly, I know too many of the same type of liberals. Enough said on that.
Thirdly, I know too many conserative law abiding citizens who own weapons (guns to the layman) who have their heads firmly planted in the soil, and pay no attention to what is really going on.
Consider them to be the 6% of voters who did not turn out to ensure that the O would not win.
They are fat dumb and happy and will happily recite that "I'll shoot them before they take this gun," or "so what if congress introduced HR-45, they can't take away my rights to own a gun." You get the point.
What all of my very nice but totally ignorant conserative friends will not face is that they are not going to take the guns away, at first. Just the right to do anything with it legally and then squeeze harder so that any normal law abiding citizen will find it too hard to comply, and will just quit and surrender.
Blame your conserative friends for allowing this to happen. They are just as much a sheeple as the young who are being indoctrinated in schools.
Oh, and F^^K the NEA.
Posted by: Oiao at February 1, 2009 11:15 PM
It is so wonderful to see some sane English.
Unfortunately the majority of the British are still barking moonbats and as such they will continue to live in the disaster known as Great Britain.
The majority are paid voters living off of the public teat. Also with so many immigrants now living in England, England isn't even English anymore.
They have truly dug their own grave and are lying in it.
All a fellow can say is ain't it a shame.
Posted by: smg45acp at February 2, 2009 6:50 AM
The brits will never get thgheir guns back as long as their run by a parlament of stupid brainless moonbats and belong to the euroweenie union
Posted by: Spurwing Plover at February 2, 2009 7:46 AM
"Their message to gun owners in America is simple -- it will happen to you if you let it".
The ironies in the US are interesting. The closer Obama got to the White House, the greater firearms purchases rose. Now gun sales are through the roof because we have leaders who are seen as a threat to our rights. Anti-gun gov't, more guns in society.
The gun industry is one of the few industries that is booming in America. The real stimulus in the economy comes in the form of an industry that the new gov't abhors.
If conservative views hold (and they should), crime rates should drop with a well-armed citizenry, many of whom are first-time gun owners. In a few years statistics should reflect dropping crime rates and the present gov't will get the credit. The credit will be designed to show that the reason for the drop is due to the weapons legislation they've imposed, and will have nothing to do with a better armed populace, furthering the idea that weapon ownership is unnecessary with 'intelligent' legislation.
Shooting accidents (which will likely rise as well) and random gun violence will be shown as a reason for more legislation because so many inept people overreacted to Obama's ascendancy, buying guns that they clearly cannot handle and have no business owning.
Take the advice of the people in this video and realize that politicians will always refuse to face the facts, and the system is on the side of the criminal, not on the side of the law-abiding citizen.
Posted by: lvb-rocks at February 2, 2009 10:06 AM

