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What ever happened to the very effective concept of the firing squad?

I hope this MacBeth meets the same fate as MacBeth in the Shakespeare play. He is scum bag of the highest order. Though its nice to seem him backstabbing his friends.

Yeah, I read about this piece of shit over at BlackFive's place. I truly hope a real Ranger recognizes his ass at a bar one night.

i will not call him a loser..

he is recanting, taking blame, contrite, and laying out all the info, and the manipulation, and how they really made it difficult for him not to do what he did.

he is mor moral than clintons... (ask about fulbright), and tons otehrs...

maybe he WAS a loser, but he is trying not to be.

yeah we can think that he is attacking his own side. but in truth, look at others who have gone from that side, and changed sides once they realized what they were a prt of. from bella dodd, and tons others, even here in th US who woke up, and woke up to the bigger picture.

[how liable can he be for such admissions?]

Forget the firing squad DISINTIGRATION BOOTH AT DAWN

"Posted by: Artfldgr at January 7, 2009 12:19 PM"

The damage has already been done. McBeth can apoligise and retract his lies from now untill doomsday, but the lies will still be told.

Remember when I mentioned that propiganda is THE most deadly weapon ever created? This is a good example.

KHam,
i agree... but to a point..

yes the damage has been done.

but there is a very long list of people who have been tempted or conned into this position.

the VAST majority make NO attempt at all to make or put a statement on record.

the few that do though, do something that most of us wouldnt do. they scratch their own wounds, make them bleed and do so to let all or some of the truth out (As they see it).

if he shut up... in a few years we would not remember him... ayers did worse and what happened? how many remembered, and hated him for never recanting the position?

when they shot him dead after using him. he didnt stay dead. he is not letting his own misery go away into anonymity...

If you count normal, non-pointy headed people, millions. Generation after generation of the Left's best minds have decided they like things over here more. Many if not most of National Review's founding editors were former Communists. The very word "neoconservative" was coined as an epithet by the socialist Michael Harrington to describe all of his friends who were heading for the exits to conservatism. It's not just the older generation. Every decade we get a new wave of writers and scholars who have come in from the rain, Christina Hoff Sommers, Michael Kelly, Andrew Ferguson, Charles Murray, just to name a few. Hell, I don't even act surprised anymore when I meet conservatives who say "I used to be a Communist." It's almost a cliche. jonah goldberg

and this is definitely pertinent to our video fellow

As the old saying has it, the left looks for heretics and the right looks for converts, and both find what they're looking for. The effect is no doubt subliminal, but people who treat you like crap are, over time, less persuasive than people who don't. If people on the Left are so unhappy about how many former allies are changing their views, perhaps they should examine how those allies are treated. glenn reynolds

[thanks to ed driscoll for the quick source]

hey i also updated the other comment in the other thread on gravel.

by the way, for those interested, some of bella dodds work is online free...

[source no longer active, so cant refer to it - there may be a copy floating, but i dont have the time to look]

Much has been written regarding Communist methods of infiltration. The standard method was to "bore from within" which involved Communists disguising themselves as loyalists to an organization they sought to undermine. Once gaining entry, they would gradually and subtly change the values and principles of the targeted organization. The process of "change" can take a generation or more. Communists have exhibited unlimited patience and supreme confidence in the ultimate attainment of their goals. Examples in America include substantial inroads by Communists into organized labor, academia, the legal profession, race relations, cultural institutions, and the government itself.

the article is interesting and refers to dodd, which is why i have it here. though its about the catholic church, not the military...

however, it does set the precidence history that somethings may not be what they seem (for instance, bernie maddoff... was he on his own, or was he assisted in such a way that his purpose and task was to bakrupt big capitalists for the cause? totally hypothetical, i never looked into any of that point, but as you shall see shortly, something should become more possible, once that something has already occured and happened many times)

When planning to infiltrate, the Communists probe for an institutional weakness to exploit and, in the case of the Catholic Church, perhaps they perceived the weakness to reside in the all-male celibate priesthood. Did Communists send their followers, particularly homosexuals, sexual deviants, and enablers, into seminaries to become priests in order to foster a homosexual culture within the church? Homosexuals, practicing their predilections in an overwhelmingly conservative Catholic community, while given protection by well placed minded superiors, could certainly contribute to the undermining of faith in Catholicism and could unquestionably shake the credibility and moral standing of the church itself down to its very foundations. Undermining Catholic authority has been a clear and often stated goal of the Communist left. Speculation regarding how the Communists attempted to implement their program is reasonable and necessary in order to better understand the present situation.

Two former Communists, Bella Dodd and Manning Johnson, spoke on Communist infiltration of the Catholic Church. Dodd, an important Communist party lawyer, teacher and activist, converted to Catholicism in April 1952 under the tutelage of Bishop Fulton J. Sheen. Stating that the Communist infiltration was so extensive that in the future "you will not recognize the Catholic Church," Dodd also asserted that:

"In the 1930's, we put eleven hundred men into the priesthood in order to destroy the Church from within."

"Right now they are in the highest places, and they are working to bring about change in order that the Catholic Church will no longer be effective against Communism."

Manning Johnson, a former Communist Party official and author of "Color, Communism and Common Sense" testified in 1953 to the House un-American Activities Committee regarding the infiltration of the Catholic Church:

"Once the tactic of infiltration of religious organizations was set by the Kremlin ... the Communists discovered that the destruction of religion could proceed much faster through infiltration of the (Catholic) Church by Communists operating within the Church itself. The Communist leadership in the United States realized that the infiltration tactic in this country would have to adapt itself to American conditions (Europe also had its cells) and the religious make-up peculiar to this country. In the earliest stages it was determined that with only small forces available to them, it would be necessary to concentrate Communist agents in the seminaries. The practical conclusion drawn by the Red leaders was that these institutions would make it possible for a small Communist minority to influence the ideology of future clergymen in the paths conducive to Communist purposes This policy of infiltrating seminaries was successful beyond even our communist expectations."

the last paragraph only refers to another inroad and reformation, liberation theology.

however, think about reverend wright, pflegger, etc.

if this is the history, then how does that change things you see around you?

dodd tells you what she did... "we put"..

her complete book is here, there are others. some of the others can be heart rending when you read and realize the lessons she learned the hard way

School of Darkness
by Bella V. Dodd, Ex-Communist
genus.cogia.net/index.htm

Related: Phony soldiers compare Specialist Ross McGinnis who sacrificed his own life to stop others being killed by a grenade, to IVAW and soldiers who testified at Winter Soldier II:

"The men and women who testified at Winter Soldier Iraq and Afghanistan in March of 2008 displayed the same kind of courage that Specialist McGinnis did: they took individual action and great risk to honor the men and women, American troops and Iraqi civilians, who have died in this misbegotten and often criminally executed war. They didn’t use their bodies; they used their narratives, the bare-knuckle stories that tell us the truth about what happens at the other end of the rifle, the missile, the bomb."

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