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December 5, 2008
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Posted by Van Helsing at December 5, 2008 8:27 AM
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UNC has decided that Christmas trees are offensive.
I hate that I live and work in Chapel Hill sometimes.
Posted by: cowlove at December 5, 2008 9:12 AM
Posted by: nanc at December 5, 2008 10:01 AM
This should help the economy: a tax on cow farts.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28064860/?GT1=43001
Posted by: baldeagle390 at December 5, 2008 10:48 AM
It's the coolest year in a decade, apparently
Don't get too excited about the global warming apocalypse not happening, though ...
cooler temperature is not evidence that global warming is slowing, say climate scientists
Posted by: mega at December 5, 2008 11:24 AM
Link doesn't work mega.
Posted by: cowlove at December 5, 2008 11:28 AM
Cowlove - Do you ever read Mike Adams? He's a criminology professor at the University of North Carolina Wilmington - He writes some great stuff slamming the UNC system. http://www.dradams.org/
Posted by: Jimbo at December 5, 2008 11:35 AM
Jimbo, Dr. Adams is my new hero. The hate mail column on that link has me ROLLING.
Posted by: cowlove at December 5, 2008 11:39 AM
Van:
Love the cartoon - Could not depict the looney left any better....
Amazing how libs get upset over the most crazy things....
They could not care less about crime victims, just the criminals...
They don't care about our troops, just the oppresive enemy warrants their sympathy....
Still trying to figure out what makes the moonbats tick - but it's a mystery wrapped in a Hillary pantsuit....
GOP Mike
Posted by: GOP Mike at December 5, 2008 1:12 PM
The sad truth is that I know people like the cartoon depicts. On the positive side, they're already getting VERY upset at Obama because he's behaving more like Clinton and less like Che or Fidel. I'll say it again: Rev. Wright better save room under the bus for Barack. "When one sups with the devil, one should bring a long spoon."
Posted by: matt at December 5, 2008 1:16 PM
"Amazing how libs get upset over the most crazy things....
They could not care less about crime victims, just the criminals..."
Indeed. Just a cursory glance at the vipers' nest known as DemocraticUnderground is proof of this. I remember a year ago, in the wake of the Denver church shooting, many of the DU threads relating to it expressed much more sympathy for the killer than for his victims, implied that the victims must have gotten what they deserved for being those evil old Christians, and portrayed the brave security guard who risked her own life to bring the shooter's rampage to an end as a brainless, bloodthirsty lunatic.
Posted by: Adam at December 5, 2008 2:49 PM
When asked to provide an ornament of the White House Christmas Tree, this is the proper way to go about it. See, you don't ask a 40+ year old moonbat, you ask an eight-year-old child. Her ornament is beautiful, way, WAY nicer than the moonbat's from Washington (State).
Credit to Michelle Malkin, on whose site I found the link.
Posted by: CoderInCrisis at December 5, 2008 3:00 PM
International NGOs such as Oxfam are blaming monsoonal flooding on global warming, and getting the natives all riled up against, well, countries where white people live.
Before, the mantra was always about cutting “greenhouse gas” emissions, but there has been a subtle shift where one increasingly sees demands that western nations open (!) their borders to these “climate refugees.”
http://reasonradionetwork.com/?p=729
Posted by: Mike at December 5, 2008 3:10 PM
Is the mother in the cartoon Anne Lamott?
Seriously...couldn't resist.....
Posted by: christmasghost at December 5, 2008 3:12 PM
UNC has decided that Christmas trees are offensive.
I hate that I live and work in Chapel Hill sometimes.
Posted by: cowlove at December 5, 2008 9:12 AM
I find moonbats to be offensive. Where is an organization I can go to place sanctions on idiots like UNC?
Posted by: Mike at December 5, 2008 3:14 PM
off topic - think Obama gona pardon The Juice on Jan 23rd?
Posted by: blue at December 5, 2008 3:30 PM
Love the cartoon. It only took me about five minutes of Googling to find out they were now after westerners at all, rather they were retaliating for what the Deccan Mujihideen considered unfair treatment by Mumbai police.
http://downwiththedrivebys.blogspot.com/2008/11/they-were-after-westerners.html
Posted by: Slackathor at December 5, 2008 4:51 PM
Proposed tax on smelly cows, hogs angers farmers...
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081205/ap_on_bi_ge/farm_scene_cow_tax_2
Georgia county imposes $500 fine on residents for not recycling...
http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/gwinnett/stories/2008/12/04/gwinnett_recycling_fine.html
Hat tip to Drudge Report.
Posted by: Mike at December 5, 2008 5:17 PM
I find moonbats to be offensive. Where is an organization I can go to place sanctions on idiots like UNC?
Well clearly your Constitutional rights are being infringed upon. After all, our Founding Fathers were smart enough to put that clause in there about the "right to not be offended," right? Right...?
Posted by: cowlove at December 5, 2008 5:17 PM
working link to that funny global warming story:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2008/dec/05/climate-change-weather
Posted by: mega at December 5, 2008 5:22 PM
mega. Thanks for the link.
Here is a great example of a nonfalsifiable hypothesis: when the temp goes cool as in 2008, that’s not confirmation of global cooling or even a challenge to the warming hypothesis . But when the temp goes warm, that’s confirmation of global warming.
Or if it goes unexpectedly cool, that’s predicted by the models. Or that’s part of the natural variation in global temp. Sloppy stuff.
One big problem for GW advocates is that even during a warming period, the temps do not exceed the historical variation of recorded temperatures.
Actually the chart shows that 2008 is the 4th consecutive year of temp decline.
The interval used to take the running average makes a big difference. Here, 1960-1990 was used, presumably to show a dramatic low to high cross-over in temp. But using this interval to calculate the average apparently masks hotter years. For ex, 1934 (I think that was the year; it was in the ‘30’s in any event) was the hottest year on the 100 yr record according to (the correctly revised) NASA temp records. In this chart, the entire 1930 decade would be lower than the average over the recorded period. That’s quite a distortion.
Posted by: Fiberal at December 5, 2008 6:50 PM
Well clearly your Constitutional rights are being infringed upon. After all, our Founding Fathers were smart enough to put that clause in there about the "right to not be offended," right? Right...?
That was my point.
And if you're not the real cowlove, then you can cram it with walnuts.
Posted by: Mike at December 5, 2008 9:17 PM
Posted by: Mike at December 5, 2008 9:31 PM
Posted by: mega at December 5, 2008 9:53 PM
PLANNED PARENTHOOD, CORPORATE RACIST/ABORTIONIST
The Planned Parenthood Federation of America, the organization founded by racist/eugenicist Margaret Sangar, pretends to be aghast when one of its employees is caught breaking the law: http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=40329. It’s hardly a rarity and if anyone should be aghast it’s the American people at the activities of this group.
(Also see “Planned Parenthood, or Rabid Racism,” http://www.genelalor.com/blog1/?p=48.)
In that instance, a PPFOA nurse effectively agreed to conceal the age of a pregnant 13 year old, in violation of Indiana law, so that PPFOA could illegally murder the pre-born child and, as always with PPFOA, collect its blood money in the form of a fee for the abortion.
It turns out that the young girl was older than 13, and probably not even pregnant. Rather, she was a pro-life activist who recorded the exchange with the nurse which audio was then posted online, embarrassing PPFOA sufficiently to suspend the nurse without pay.
In what I originally thought was a lame joke, that same Indiana chapter, and the Illinois chapter, are offering a special this Christmas season–a Planned Parenthood Gift Card! Now, isn’t that just special!
In fact, even “The Daily Show” clown, Jon Stewart, seemed shocked at the insensitivity to Christian values and to the Christmas season, without mentioning either, and ridiculed the gift card idea, saying he now knew what to get for his Secret Santa: ...
(Read the rest of this article at http://genelalor.com/.)
Posted by: Berlet98 at December 5, 2008 10:42 PM
USING “DIRECT FORCE” IN WORLD WAR III
A bipartisan commission has recommended, since all such commissions can ever really do is recommend, that “the incoming Obama administration . . . must not rule out the use of ‘direct force’ – military action – against Iran and North Korea, if diplomatic negotiations fail to stop their nuclear weapons programs”: http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=40263.
Said commission, headed by former senator Bob Graham (D-FL), and named with the presumptuous, wide-ranging title, “The Commission on the Prevention of Weapons of Mass Destruction (WMDs) Proliferation and Terrorism,” is an outgrowth and stepchild of the 9/11 Commission, another teats-on-a-bull waste of time and taxpayer money.
Warning that “the greatest danger of another catastrophic attack in the United States will materialize if the world’s most dangerous terrorists acquire the world’s most dangerous weapons,” is tantamount to warning that venomous snakes will eventually emerge from their shells.
The CPWMDPT group’s report was called, “World At Risk,” a heady appellation if there ever was one and reminiscent of “The World At War” television series. The latter title, which referred to World War II, could just as easily be applied to our current “risk” since we are in fact at war today as much as we were in the 1940’s. When it’s over, future historians will refer to it as the Third World War.
The most significant difference is that Americans and our leaders today refuse to accept that reality. We prefer to appoint investigative commissions, which sure beats war mobilization.
Also, to focus on Iran and North Korea, to even suggest that those rogue nations are the primary threats to our interests and therefore we should preemptively those threats, represents subterfuge and disingenuousness of the worst kind.
With proven maniacs in charge, Kim Jong-Il of the Democratic People’s of North Korea (DPRK), , and Iran’s Mahmoud Ahmadinejad at Iran’s helm, , not much that is positive can be gained by negotiations, as President Clinton discovered and still refuses to admit. . . .
(Read the rest of this article at http://genelalor.com/.)
Posted by: Berlet98 at December 6, 2008 3:09 PM
Sigh. Connecticut is on the East coast, right? Well, you can never be too safe. Novelty lighters. Huh; seems a total ban is the only solution.
Posted by: comet at December 6, 2008 6:50 PM
Who sent Billy Ayers — to the New York Times?
It has reached the point that it pains us here at RBO to give unrepentant Communist terrorist Billy Ayers another smidge of our blog space, so we’re going to make this short and to the point.
If you are someone who wants the world to forget all the dastardly things that you did decades ago, why won’t you just shut your mouth and simply let it all fade away?
If you want the world to forget, why keep reminding it? Who sent Billy Ayers to distance himself from President-Select Obama while grabbing another 15 minutes of center stage attention in a December 5, 2008, New York Times op-ed? This sort of thing doesn’t happen by accident, or at least for most people.
Additionally, if you want everyone to believe you, why keep telling the same old disproven lies over and over and over again?
Posted by: Mike at December 6, 2008 7:15 PM
JEWS IN AMERICA I: THEIR CONTRIBUTIONS
Jews have taken a lot of flak over the centuries. Okay, that’s hardly news although it is worthy of re-statement.
They have been persecuted and prosecuted for millennia, reviled as “Christ Killers,” subjected to pogroms and to the Holocaust, blamed for everything from recessions to depressions, and, in America, accused of having and exerting excessive power and influence in relation to their percentage of the population.
Just as with discussing Blacks or gays in America, there is a certain assumption of bigotry associated with any non-Jew writing about those of the Jewish persuasion so I must hasten to correct that erroneous assumption with regard to this series.
Neither this article nor this series of articles will represent an exercise in “Jew bashing,” too much of which already emanates from brainless twits known as Neo Nazis and skinheads who wish for a return to a return to the days of Adolph Hitler. You may recall those days, the days and nights of kristallnacht, gas chambers, mass murder of twelve million people, and a war which brought death and destruction to the planet and the loss of seventy one million people in World War II.
That is not to suggest, either, that this article and those which follow will avoid controversy or fail to present both sides of questions, allegations, and opinions on this or any other subject.
The series is intended not to castigate or in any way diminish the Jewish people but rather to comment fairly and evenhandedly on a topic on which many non-Jews hold strong opinions but few dare to speak or write openly.
That in itself is troublesome. We still enjoy the rights extended by the First Amendment and any speech or writing not intended to harm or incite rebellion should be acceptable, even though it often is not.
In researching the subject of Jews in America, I’ve discovered that there are countless websites devoted to “Jews.” Google the word and almost 32,000,000 sites are found, an incredible number considering that less than five million websites pop up for “Protestants” and “Hindus,” eleven million for “Catholics,” and twenty seven million for “Muslims.”
According to the C.I.A. World Factbook, Protestants comprise 6% of the global population, Hindus 13%, Roman Catholics 17%, Muslims some 21%, while Jews make up a scant one-quarter of 1%: https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/print/xx.html.
Jews as a subject therefore comprise a miniscule number of believers worldwide yet an inordinate number of websites in some fashion or other make reference to them, at least on the Google search engine.
Those websites and percentages clearly show that there is a great interest in Jews and the question has to be, Why?...
(Read the rest of this article at http://genelalor.com/.)
Posted by: Berlet98 at December 7, 2008 12:20 AM
And if you're not the real cowlove, then you can cram it with walnuts.
Yeah that was me Mike. I wish we had [sarcasm] tags.
The point is, all of these sissies whining about "being offended" are the ones who can cram it with whatever they so desire. They need to grow up.
Posted by: cowlove at December 7, 2008 9:00 AM
Berlet98, my wife is a Jew, so I have some personal stake in this. First off, if you type in "Jew" at Google, it gives you a number that represents all the websites that use the WORD Jew, not that they're all ABOUT them.
Second, type in "protestant" and the number is over 23 million. "Catholic" gets 110 million. So much for your accuracy.
The reason Jews are so small in number (aside from the Holocaust which, according to Mahmoud Ahmadinejad "never happened"), yet so large in history IS a matter of interest. Perhaps they in fact are an oracle people and play a roll in history not equivalent to their size in numbers.
I don't know where you are coming from, Berlet, but it sounds to me like there is a bit of anti-Semitism (vis a vis your statement about "strong opinions" and the 1st amendment) in the name of "presenting both sides of an opinion". What exactly do you feel hasn't already been discussed...at length...about the Jews? What "strong opinions" haven't yet been aired?
Lastly, ponder this: why is it that a people who number approximately 14 million (less than the population of Los Angeles county) are such a huge problem for so many people? Why would a tiny country like Israel, who don't have any oil (said to be the reason for all the strife in the Near East) be SO hated by it's neighbors? Why is it ALWAYS the Jews?
Perhaps there is something more than a secular answer. That might be tough for you to swallow, but it could also be true.
Posted by: matt at December 7, 2008 12:57 PM
PEARL HARBOR: I REMEMBER THAT DAY
“History is the sum total of things that could have been avoided.” (Konrad Adenauer)
December 7th ring a bell for anyone? It should, even if you’re less than 67. Sixty seven years ago today, America suffered the worst attack in its history until that dubious distinction was supplanted by the devastation of September 11th, 2001.
I was still in my mother’s womb on December 7th, 1941, yet I remember it well.
I remember that day because of the immense damage caused to our Pacific Fleet by a long-planned and well-executed sneak attack by the Japanese navy, executed coincidentally as Japanese representatives were gathered in Washington for peace talks, executed by a huge, undetected Japanese task force including six aircraft carriers.
I remember that day because of the immensity of the operation, five midget submarines and some 360 planes which began hitting Pearl just before 8 a m on a quiet Sunday morning, an assault in three waves that continued for two hours, resulting in 2,403 Navy, Army, and Marine, and civilian KIAs, wounding an additional 1282 personnel, and damaging or destroying eight battleships, three cruisers, three destroyers, a minelayer, almost 200 aircraft and numerous ground facilities.
I remember that day because of FDR’s speech before Congress asking for a declaration of war when he called December 7th, 1941, “the day that shall live in infamy” in our nation’s history, his speech serving to mobilize and motivate Americans to come together to defeat the Axis powers, which we succeeded in doing within less than four years.
I remember that day because of the controversy which still lingers: What did FDR know and when did he know it? Had he ordered the Pacific Fleet to gather at Pearl Harbor in a defensive maneuver or was that order intended to provide an inviting target for the Japanese, begging an attack to spark outrage in the citizenry and easing our entry into the Second World War?
I remember that day on the 7th of every December as well as on the 11th of every September when other sneak attacks effected an even greater loss of life and wrought far more damage not in a faraway place but on the mainland in New York City, Washington, D.C., and in a field in Pennsylvania.
I remember that day because it should always be remembered, as the events of 9/11/2001 should always be remembered. When we forget such momentous and terrible events or when we simply do not want to recall them, we expose ourselves and our nation to repeated attacks.
“Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum,” (If you want peace, prepare for war), wrote Publius Flavius Vegetius Renatus some sixteen hundred years ago and they are still words to live by in 2008. We were not prepared in 1941 and we were not prepared in 2001 and the results were catastrophic.
The more relevant questions are whether we are prepared in 2008 and have we learned anything from history.
(http://genelalor.com/)
Posted by: Berlet98 at December 7, 2008 3:46 PM
What did FDR know and when did he know it?
Anyone who brings that up had better be prepared to tell me why we needed A MILITARY DISASTER to declare war! I'm including YOU Gene, so don't try to say that you were "only quoting", you repeted the lie and that's just as bad.
If anyone thinks that Roosevelt set the navy up, try searching USS Rubin James and USS Kerney.
Posted by: KHarn at December 7, 2008 5:15 PM
Add USS Panay to your search while you're at it.
Posted by: KHarn at December 7, 2008 5:15 PM
THERE’S SOMETHING ABOUT BARRY
There was something about Mary in the raunchy movie with a similar title and, although it may not be the same something, there’s also something about Barry, our President-elect, aka Barack Hussein Obama.
What that something is remains to be seen since the mass media never saw fit to inquire.
He reminds me of a character in a movie a while back who wages an unlikely campaign for a U.S. Senate seat, somehow wins, and then says something to the effect, “Okay, what the hell do we do now?”
Obama came out of nowhere, except for his role as keynote speaker at the 2004 Democratic National Convention when he wowed the delegates, and went on to win the Illinois junior senator seat that same year and four years later he has been elected the 44th President of the United States.
A phenomenal story!
It mattered not at all to the electorate that his experience in governing was non-existent, that his experience as a legislator on the national level was close to nil, that he was an arch liberal who voted twice in Illinois to let infant abortion survivors die, or that he was burdened with more baggage than Rudy Giuliani.
Aside from his gross, personal underqualifications,...
(Read the rest of this article at http://genelalor.com.)
Posted by: Berlet98 at December 8, 2008 12:50 AM

