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December 3, 2008
Open Thread

Posted by Van Helsing at December 3, 2008 7:47 PM
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Gee, did Obama gain some weight?
Posted by: Moonbat Smasher at December 3, 2008 7:56 PM
TV meteorologists refuse to swallow global warm-aid
They will tell you when the skies might rain or snow in fickle Northeast Ohio, when to bundle up the kids in a cold snap and when to make weekend plans if steady sunshine spans the five-day forecast. They also will tell you that human-caused global warming is hogwash. They’re your local TV meteorologists.
“This cry that ‘We’re all going to die’ is an overreaction and just not good science,” said Andre Bernier, a meteorologist at WJW Channel 8. “I don’t think I personally know any meteorologists — here in Cleveland or anywhere else I’ve worked — who agree with the hype over human-induced warming.”
The local TV weatherscape is indeed populated with on-air personalities who are pushing hard against the prevailing winds of climate science.
“Our stance is pretty clear on this and we’re in agreement with the global warming scenario as set out by the international panel,” said Keith Seitter, AMS executive director.
“Still, we think they should research all that they can,” he said. “And really, there should be less and less skepticism out there as the science improves each year — not more.”
But, there are doubters — all AMS certified — in prominent on-air positions at each of the four Cleveland television stations.
Bernier and Dick Goddard — the patriarch of Cleveland weather forecasters — predict the weather at WJW Channel 8. Both cite natural fluctuations in the Earth’s climate and dismiss the industrialization of the 20th century and the subsequent spike in atmospheric carbon dioxide as the cause for warming.
Goddard compared the current anxiety over warming with the global cooling concerns of the 1970s, which have since dissipated. He and Bernier both point to solar cycles as the key ingredient in climate change. Bernier also said he believes the climate is no longer warming — but, rather, cooling again. “I have a hunch that in 10 years we’re all going to be longing for global warming because it will be so cold,” Bernier said. His Web site, andrebernier.com, links to a Canadian documentary that suggests the same. Others in the skeptic camp include meteorologists Jon Loufman at WOIO Channel 19, Mark Johnson at WEWS Channel 5 and Mark Nolan at WKYC Channel 3. Nolan has since moved to the news desk, but he said he still gets questions about his skeptic’s stance.
“Climate records also show that long before industrialization, the Vikings had settled in Greenland because it was warm enough,” said Loufman, who has taught meteorology courses at both Case Western Reserve University and Lakeland Community College. “I think the jury is still out on this.” So what in the name of the National Weather Service is going on here?
For starters, the drift away from global warming among TV weather forecasters is hardly limited to Cleveland. “This is nationwide,” said Stu Ostro, meteorologist and director of weather communications for the Weather Channel in Atlanta. AMS chief Seitter agreed: “I’ve seen the trend, too,” he said. “But I still don’t understand why there would be more skepticism among the TV meteorologists than in the field overall — but there is.”
“Those of us in weather are used to seeing extremes all the time,” he said. “Why should we think that anything is different today just because one day is hot, another day has heavy rains? Meteorologists often see those things as natural variability.”
Posted by: BURNING HOT at December 3, 2008 8:39 PM
Hey - Dino the Pussy - did you ever meet a real man that didn't make you wet your pants? Are you just a stupid little twat with a keyboard, or would you like to say all the things you type here to a real man's face?
Be truthful, twat.
Posted by: Very Much Alive Conservative at December 3, 2008 9:35 PM
Chill out dude. Anyone can see Dino is just pushing for the exact reaction you're giving him.
Besides, it's going to look like you're talking to no one after Van deletes his comments.
I'm curious, though, if you may actually be Dino...
Posted by: cowlove at December 3, 2008 10:20 PM
HuffPo commentors show their niceness to Georgia
A commenter at Michelle Malkin's mentioned that the HuffPo comments field was going toxic in reaction to Saxby Chambliss's win in Georgia, and he wasn't kidding:
Way to go Georgia!! Keeps you right in there with Texas, Tennessee, West Virginia, Arkansas, South Carolina and Alabama as bastions of family values (those primarily being that it is desirable to marry within ones own family). lesterbud
It's reminicent of lynching or raping a child or pummeling a little old lady. -- Kit Chandler
I have come to conclusion that the South prefers not to be educate their young, they would rather keep them dumb, and vote Republican. -- jpshotwheels
Is anyone really surprised by this evolutionarily challenged, brainless, toothless, interbred heehaw state? I'm not. -- ConcernedAboutRFuture
The real story is about how incredibly gullible and stupid Georgia voters are. -- raker
GA is a racist redneck rethug holdout. -- roshni
Posted by: BURNING HOT at December 3, 2008 10:30 PM
An Obama ornament we Can Believe In
Figurines known as “caganer” of U.S. President-elect Barack Obama are sold at the Santa Llucia Christmas market in central Barcelona December 1, 2008. Catalans hide “caganers”, or defecators, in Christmas Nativity scenes then invite friends to hunt for them during Christmas celebrations. The “caganers”, which symbolise defecating and fertilizing the earth, are believed to bring prosperity and luck for the coming year.
Posted by: BURNING HOT at December 3, 2008 10:42 PM
Tim Blair says a "scientist" has found the next environmental doomsday scenario:
"The next big thing after warmening? Noisening:
Greenhouse gases worsen ocean noise by raising acidity levels and causing sound to travel farther, making it ever harder for marine mammals to communicate, UN and wildlife experts said today … "
And no he wasn't joking.
http://blogs.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/timblair/index.php/dailytelegraph/comments/sound_waves/
Posted by: mandible claw at December 4, 2008 12:06 AM
NOSTALGIA THWARTED BY THE REALITY OF CHILD ABUSE
Just when Christmas nostalgia and good thoughts begin to envelop me, like Don Corleone, reality drags me back in: http://news.aol.com/article/couple-arrested-in-chained-teen-case/264755?icid=200100397×1214429195x1200873957.
Okay, I didn’t just fall off one of those cauliflower or turnip trucks which clog Long Island backroads this time of year but it’s still a shock to the nervous system to read such child abuse reports, even if that particular horror occurred out on the Left Coast.
Imagine yourself a kid, during that time of life when you had great if impractical dreams, when you envisioned yourself as a future center fielder in the new Yankee Stadium, or hawking overpriced popcorn in that Stadium, or even parking cars nearby.
Instead, this Tracy, California kid, who was 17 and looked 10 or 12, had apparently been shackled and held against his will for a year, was emaciated, nearly naked, filthy, and desparate after he finally escaped and begged people to hide him from his abusers.
Not much else has been reported on the story except that those captors, Michael Schumacher, 34, and Kelly Layne Lau, 30, a girl scout leader, had been arrested. His aunt was subsequently taken into custody by the police. Only the victim’s given name, Kyle, has been released.
This brief item, http://www.knx1070.com/Third-Person-Arrested-in-NorCal-Torture-Case/3425378, features a picture which I have to assume is of the aunt. She, Caren Ramirez,
(Read the rest of this article at http://genelalor.com/.)
Posted by: Berlet98 at December 4, 2008 1:32 AM
Finally, the reaction from mainstream Muslims that everyone has been waiting for.
Makes me wonder if it's just a coincidence that the first place this is happening is in India, by Indian Muslims, rather than in an Arabic country..
From the Times of India:
"MUMBAI: In an unprecedented show of solidarity against terrorism, Muslims from Mumbai and several other cities are gearing up to oppose all those
who spread terror in the name of Islam.
As a first step, some Muslim organisations from Mumbai will jointly organise a silent rally-from CST to the Oberoi-Trident on December 8. The theme of the rally: "Killers of innocents are enemies of Islam"."
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Mumbai/Muslim_bodies_to_organise_protest_rally_on_Dec_8/articleshow/3789723.cms
Posted by: mandible claw at December 4, 2008 3:12 AM
Anti-Moonbattery Liberal Fascism tops Amazon customer's lists of best political books of 2008, although Amazon's editors disagree.
Posted by: V the K at December 4, 2008 7:39 AM
Might i suggest the demacratic party replace the donkey with a old fat sow laying on her side with all the little piggies suckling away
Posted by: Spurwing Plover at December 4, 2008 12:40 PM
No, Plover, a jackass remains the perfect symbol for the Democratic Party.
Posted by: Adam at December 4, 2008 1:24 PM
Dad gum it sloppin those congressional and senatorial hawgs every year and still they want more
Posted by: Spurwing Plover at December 4, 2008 8:19 PM

